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GOOD AFTERNOON. THANK YOU FOR TAKING THE TIME TO BE HERE TODAY. WE ARE ALL WORKING HARD TO MAINTAIN A CLEAR LINE OF COMMUNICATIONS WITH THE MEDIA , THE COUNTY ELECTION OFFICIALS AND OUR VOTERS. OUR OFFICE WILL CONTINUE TO GIVE UNPRECEDENTED ACCESS TO THE VOTERS OF GEORGIA DESERVE TRANSPARENCY. GEORGIA VOTERS DESERVE ACCURATE, REAL ELECTION RESULTS FOR ELECTION WORKERS, AROUND THE STATE, ARE WORKING WITH INTEGRITY TO ENSURE EVERY LEGAL BALLOT IS COUNTED. AND, NO ILLEGAL BALLOTS ARE COUNTED RIGHT NOW, GEORGIA REMAINS TOO CLOSE TO CALL. OUT OF THE APPROXIMATELY 5 MILLION VOTES CAST, WE WILL HAVE A MARGIN OF FEW THOUSAND. THE FOCUS FOR THE COUNTY ELECTIONS OFFICIALS, FOR NOW, REMAINS MAKING SURE THAT EVERY LEGAL VOTE IS COUNTED AND RECORDED ACCURATELY. AS WE ARE CLOSING IN ON A FINAL COUNT, WE CAN LOOK TOWARDS OUR NEXT STEPS WITH A MARGIN THAT SMALL, THERE WILL BE LIKELY A RECOUNT, IN GEORGIA. INTEREST IN OUR ELECTIONS GOES FAR BEYOND OUR BORDERS THE FINAL TALLY, IN GEORGIA, HAS HUGE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. THE STAKES ARE HIGH AND THE EMOTIONS ARE HIGH ON ALL SIDES. WE WILL NOT LET THOSE DEBATES DISTRACT US FROM OUR WORK WE’LL GET IT RIGHT AND WE WILL DEFEND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR ELECTIONS. IN SOME STATES, THERE ARE COMPLAINTS ABOUT MONITORS NOT BEING ALLOWED TO WATCH THE COUNTY. IN GEORGIA, THIS PROCESS IS, AND WILL REMAIN OPEN AND TRANSPARENT TO MONITORS. IF ANY MEMBER OF THE PUBLIC RAISES LEGITIMATE CONCERNS, WE WILL INVESTIGATE THOSE. WE ARE COMMITTED TO DOING ANYTHING, AND EVERYTHING, TO MAINTAINING TRUST IN OUR ELECTORAL PROCESS HERE IN GEORGIA, REGARDLESS OF PARTISAN PREFERENCE. THANK YOU >> GOOD AFTERNOON. I AM THE STATEWIDE VOTING SYSTEM IMPLEMENTATION MANAGER. YOU KEEP PUTTING YOUR MICROPHONES WHERE I PUT MY COMPUTER. THE OUTSTANDING BALLOTS ARE ABOUT THE SAME AS THEY WERE NOT TOO MUCH CHANGE ON THE FRONT. WE DO HAVE SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE PROVISIONALS. WE WILL START WITH THE MARGIN. WE ARE LOOKING AT DA LIN 440,796 VOTES FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP AND 2,450,381 VOTES FOR VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN THAT GIVES US A MARGIN OF 1585 THAT IS WHERE WE STAND RIGHT NOW, AS OF 3:ZERO 8 PM ON FRIDAY. WE DO KNOW THAT TODAY IS THE DEADLINE FOR MILITARY AND OVERSEAS BALLOTS THAT WOULD’VE BEEN POSTMARKED BY TUESDAY, ELECTION DAY, TO BE ACCEPTED AND COUNTED IN THE STATE. WE DO HAVE SOME UPDATED NUMBERS ON THAT. ON THE OVERALL SIDE, WE HAVE 18,008 OF THOSE BALLOTS HAVE BEEN ACCEPTED. WE HAVE 8410 THAT ARE STILL AVAILABLE TO BE RECEIVED I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THIS, THAT DOES NOT MEAN THERE IS A BUCKET OF 8410 VOTES TO BE COUNTED, THAT MEANS THERE ARE 8410 VOTES THAT COULD BE RECEIVED BY ELECTION OFFICIALS TODAY AS I SAID, IT WILL BE MORE THAN ZERO BUT LESS THAN 8410 IT WILL BE SOMEWHERE IN THAT RANGE. I DO HAVE A COUNTY BY

COUNTY BREAKDOWN. I WILL GIVE YOU SOME OF THE HIGHLIGHTS AND PUT THIS INTO A RELEASE TO GIVE DETAILS FOLLOWING THIS PRESS CONFERENCE. YOU WANT THE BIG ONES. I WILL GO WITH THAT. 86 ARE STILL OUT THERE. CHATHAM, WHERE SAVANNAH IS, 395. CHEROKEE , WOODSTOCK, 171. CLAYTON COUNTY, 241. COBB COUNTY, 569. COLUMBIA COUNTY, 247., WE DID COUNTY, 99 THE CAP COUNTY, 802. I WANT TO NOTE THAT IT IS DeKALB. WE NEED TO PRONOUNCE THOSE THINGS 30, 74. DOUGLAS COUNTY CUP 111 FAYETTE, 149. FORSYTHE, 153 FULTON, 956 THAT’S THE SINGLE BIGGEST NUMBER RIGHT THERE. GWINNETT, 741 HENRY, 238. THIS IS ANOTHER FUN ONE. IT IS NOT HOUSTON, HOUSTON IN GEORGIA. HOUSTON COUNTY, 196. LIBERTY COUNTY, 173. THAT’S A MILITARY BASE LOWNDES COUNTY, 141. MUSCOGEE COUNTY, 323. RICHMAN , WHERE GUS IS, 244. ROCKDALE, 88. AND I THINK THAT’S THE BIGGEST ONES. YOU CAN TAKE THEM AND ADD THEM TOGETHER THE BALANCE WILL PROBABLY BE AROUND 4000 FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTIES I DIDN’T NAME. I DO HAVE THE PROVISIONALS, THE INITIAL PROVISIONAL REPORT FROM FULTON COUNTY, THAT WAS THE LARGEST ONE. THEIR TOTAL PROVISIONAL BALLOTS RECEIVED WAS 4869. THEY ACCEPTED 3603. THAT MEANS THEY REJECTED 1200 626 OF THE PROVISIONAL BALLOTS ON HAND THE BIGGEST CHUNKS OF THOSE WAS ELIGIBILITY VERIFIED, THAT MEANS THE VOTER AUTHOR ID IN. AND THEY VOTED AT A PRECINCT, THEY WERE INSIDE BUT THEY WERE AT THE WRONG PRECINCT. THAT IS 2398 THE ENFORCEMENT PART FOR SOME OF THOSE VOTERS MEANS THEY VOTED AT A PRECINCT, THEY CAN ONLY VOTE ON THE THINGS THAT ARE ON THE BALLOT THAT AFFECTED THE AREAS THEY SHARED WITH THE OTHER PRECINCTS. THINGS LIKE THE PRESIDENT AND SENATOR, THOSE VOTES WILL COUNT. STATE HOUSE AND COUNTY COMMISSIONER, THOSE WILL NOT WE ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO GO TO THE CORRECT POLLING LOCATION. THE REJECTED BALLOTS JUSTIFICATIONS WAS OUT OF COUNTY, 673. YOU CAN ONLY VOTE INSIDE OF YOUR OWN COUNTY. NOT REGISTERED, 573 NONCITIZENS ATTEMPTING TO VOTE WAS 13. THAT IS THE INITIAL PROVISIONAL 44 MEAL I EXPECT THAT TO CHANGE SOMEWHAT. I WAS TALKING TO OUR MONITOR HE SET THERE WERE OTHER CHANGES MOVING ON THAT. AS WELL AS SOME OF ABSENTEE BALLOTS THAT WERE DAMAGED. THEY WERE CUT AND THEY HAD TO REDO THOSE AND THEY WILL BE SCANNING THOSE. LET’S SEE, NOT THAT ONE. YOU GET CRAZY LOOKING AT ALL THE SPREADSHEETS >> THEY ARE NOT. THEY HAVE NOT SCANNED AND UPLOADED THOSE YET >> JUSTIN, YOU’RE GETTING AHEAD THE TOTAL NUMBER OF PROVISIONALS IN THE STATE WAIT, THIS IS NOT THE TOTAL NUMBER WE HAVE THE NUMBERS FROM 134 OF THE 159 COUNTIES WE HAVE DeKALB, CLAYTON, I THINK WE MAY HAVE THE BIG ONES IN HERE. THIS IS A MOVING TARGET WE ARE HAPPY TO GET THIS INFORMATION TO THE VIEWERS AND VOTERS OUT THERE. GUESS WHAT? WE WILL HAVE TAKE A SECOND TO HIT THE SOME — SUM 13,012 IS THE TOTAL NUMMBER PROVISIONS YOUR SEEM. IT IS REALLY CLOSER TO 9000. THERE ARE FUN THINGS CALLED CODES THESE ARE THE DIFFERENT STATES A PROVISIONAL CAN BE IN. IT CAN BE FOR SHARING YOUR VOTER IDEA THERE IS A GENERAL VOTER ID LIKE YOU FORGOT AND THERE IS A FIRST-TIME VOTER ID THERE IS A PROVISIONAL NOT REGISTERED WHICH MEANS THEY CAN IMPROVE YOUR REGISTRATION BUT YOU CAN COME BACK AND CURE THAT EXTENDED HOURS, AS YOU KNOW, WE HAD A HANDFUL OF PRECINCTS THAT

WERE EXITED PAST THE 7 PM HOUR ALL OF THOSE VOTES ARE PROVISIONAL, THEY WILL ALL GET COUNTED. THEN YOU HAVE OUT AS PRECINCT WHICH WHAT I WAS DESCRIBING BEFORE. BODICES AND, PRETTY SELF-EXPLANATORY THEN WE HAVE WHAT WE CALL INCOMPLETE REGISTRATIONS WHERE THEY HAVE A PARTIAL REGISTRATION BUT THEY DON’T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION TO IDENTIFY THE VOTER. THEY CAN CURE THOSE. WE WILL GET A BREAKDOWN OF THOSE OUT TO YOU THE BIGGEST ONE WILL BE , BUT SEEK OUT THE OUT OF PRECINCT VOTERS. THAT WILL BE COLUMN G. TO SEE HOW MANY THERE ARE. THESE ARE ONES THAT WILL BE COUNTED AND WILL BE INCLUDED INTO THE ACCOUNT. 3908. AND, YOU DON’T HAVE TO TAKE THE SUBSET OF THE FULTON OUT, I DID NOT INCLUDE THAT. THE 3908 IS COUNTIES WE HAVE NOT INCLUDING FULTON, I GAVE YOU THOSE NUMBERS EARLIER. WE ARE SEEING UPLOADS EVERY 20-30 MINUTES AS THE COUNTIES TRY TO GET EVERYTHING DONE TODAY WITH THE ABSENTEE CURES AND THE PROVISIONALS BEING VERIFIED. SO, YOU WILL SEE A LOT OF UPLOADS. WHAT WE’VE NOTICED, THE MARGIN GOES UP THREE AND GOES DOWN TO, AND THEN IT GOES UP SEVEN, NOTHING IS MOVING THE NEEDLE A LOT ON THESE THINGS. WE ARE STILL HANG AROUND THE 1500 NUMBER RIGHT NOW. THE LARGER CHUNK OF PROVISIONALS COULD MOVE IT SOME. THE PUBLICATIONS, THE DAMAGE BALLOTS COULD MOVE IT SOME. IT DEPENDS ON WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. WE ARE TRYING TO GET EVERYTHING CLOSED DOWN TODAY. IT, IT’S LIKE TO TOMORROW. MY ENTIRE HIGH SCHOOL WAS ABOUT 2000 PEOPLE AND WE HAVE LESS THAN THAT INVOLVED IN THE MARGIN EVERY ONE OF THESE VOTES IS IMPORTANT. THE JOB, OF THE ELECTION OFFICIALS IN THIS OFFICE, IS ENSURE EVERY SINGLE, LEGAL VOTE IS COUNTED AND THE WILL OF THE VOTERS, IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, IS MET IN THIS VERY IMPORTANT ELECTION FOR JUSTIN, YOU CAN ASK YOUR QUESTION >> GIVEN THE STRONG PROBABILITY OF A RECOUNT, WE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO ASCERTAIN THAT WE WILL GO THROUGH OUR LEGAL PROCESS WHICH MEANS WE HAVE TO CERTIFY. I ANTICIPATE LAWSUITS FROM CAMPAIGNS, DEPENDING ON WHERE THEY ARE. THE JUDGE COULD ORDER THE COUNTIES AND STATE DO DIFFERENT THINGS. WE ARE OPERATING WITH THE LAWS OF THE STATE ARE TRYING TO MOVE TO THE RISK LIMITING AUDITS AS FAST AS WE CAN. WE NEED THE CERTIFICATION OF THE STATE AND LIKELY, THEIR INITIAL REQUEST FOR A RECOUNT >> AS I SAID EARLIER, IN A SITUATION WHERE THE MARGIN IS SO SMALL, YOU DON’T NEED TO HAVE ANYTHING RAMPANT. THERE ARE REGULARITIES THAT YOU CAN SEE THAT ARE COMMON TO NEARLY EVERY ELECTION. THIS PARTICULAR DAY, EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IS VERY IMPORTANT. EVERY INSIGHT WE HAVE RECEIVED, AND EVERY REPORT WE HAVE RECEIVED WILL BE INVESTIGATED FULLY. WE ARE WORKING HARD TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE REGARDLESS WHO MAKES A COMPLAINT >> WE CAN’T SAY THAT, THEY ARE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATION. YES SIR? >> WE STILL HAVE A FEW HOURS TO SEE WHAT WILL BE COMING IN FROM THE U.S POST OFFICE. IT HAS TO BE POSTMARKED BY TUESDAY. WE FEEL LIKE WE WILL HAVE AN ANSWER, TO NOT MISSING BALLOTS, THERE WILL BE BALLA SOME MAKE IT AND BALLOTS I DON’T MAKE IT. WE WILL COUNT ALL THE LEGAL BALLOTS. LEGAL BALLOTS HAVE TO BE HERE BY THE CLOSE OF BUSINESS THAT THEY AND POSTMARKED BY ELECTION DAY >> IF YOU NOTICE, THE DIFFERENCE OF THE AMOUNT, WE HAD ABOUT 70,500, WE HAD 18,000 TODAY, 500 THEM HAVE COME IN IN THE LAST FEW HOURS. YES JOHN? >> AGAIN, WE REPORT THE RESULTS FROM EVERY COUNTY. AT SOME POINT, THE LEGAL PROCESS CONTINUES THE COUNTIES HAVE TO CERTIFY ONCE A COUNTY CERTIFIES THIS, WE LOOK AT THE PAPERWORK AND WE WILL CERTIFY IT. THAT IS THE POINT WHERE THE SECRETARY OF STATE WOULD STAND HERE OR STAND WHERE HE MIGHT AND SAFE THIS IS THE WINNER OF THE SELECTION. OF COURSE, WE ANTICIPATE A RECOUNT COMING >> THE PROCESS WE HAVE IS WHAT GETS US TO THAT POINT. WE CERTIFY. THAT MEANS THESE ARE ALL THE LEGAL VOTES WE HAVE AND ALL THE LEGAL VOTES ARE COUNTED THIS IS THE LEGAL PROCESS IN THE STATE. YES MA’AM >> IT IS 13 FOR THE COUNTIES, AND AT THE OUTER END, THE 20th FOR THE

STATE. OUR HOPE IS THEY WILL CERTIFY FASTER THAN THAT SO WE MAY BEGIN THE RLA PROCESS SO WE CAN CERTIFY BEFORE THEM WE WILL DEAL WITH WHAT WILL LIKELY BE A RECOUNT. MA’AM, YOU CAN GO. THEM, GO AHEAD >> I THINK THIS IS JUST FOR CLARIFICATION. MY DEFINITION, MEANS YOU’RE NOT COUNTING VOTES YES, MA’AM? >> WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW IS THEY HAVE TO VERIFY ALL OF THEM THEY WILL DO THIS FIRST. THEY WILL LIKELY BE SCANNED TODAY AND THEY COULD BE PART OF SOME OF THE UPLOADS WE HAVE SEEN TODAY I’M GIVING YOU THE LATEST INFORMATION WE HAVE. I DON’T BELIEVE MOST OF THESE HAVE BEEN SCANNED YET. THE INTENT IS YOU DON’T WANT TO SCAN A BUNCH OF STUFF. YOU HAVE THIS EASIER PROCESS TO DO EVERYTHING I WHAT TIME. YES SIR. COLD ON >> WE ARE DOING A RECOUNT UNFORTUNATE, AS I POINTED OUT, IT IS RUNNING TOGETHER FOR ME THE RULES HAVE OUTLINED THIS ONE OF THE ROLES IS FOR EASE-OF-USE, AND OBVIOUSLY, HE IS POINTING OUT A RISK LIMITING AUDIT, THE POINT IF WE ARE TRYING TO USE THE SMALLEST NUMBER OF POLISHED OF ABLE TO GET YOU TO A POINT OF CONFIDENCE, WHEN, AT THIS POINT I THINK IT IS .03% DIFFERENCE, IT WOULD BE A RECOUNT WHICH WOULD BE DIFFICULT FOR THE COUNTIES TO DUE. THAT MIGHT ANSWER THE QUESTION FOR YOU. YES MA’AM? >> OUR HOPE WOULD BE TODAY. THAT COULD SLIP INTO TOMORROW. AGAIN, EVERYBODY IS EXHAUSTED. IT IS FRIDAY. THERE’S A GEORGIA GAME TOMORROW. IT IS A BIG ONE. WE HAVE TO FOCUS ON THE REALLY IMPORTANT THINGS IN THE STATE SOMETIMES. YES MA’AM? >> I THINK WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP IS TRYING TO ENCOURAGE THE HOPE THAT AS MANY OF OUR MILITARY HEROES HAVE TURNED IN THEIR BALLOTS AND THEY WILL ARRIVE UNDER THE LEGAL DEADLINE OF THE STATE. YES MA’AM? >> AS UNDERSTAND, THAT IS TRUE YES SIR? WE WILL COME BACK TO YOU IN A SECOND >> I ANSWER THAT. FRANKLY, I JUST DON’T KNOW. YEAH, CHIEF OF INVESTIGATIONS — HOLD ON >> THAT’S WHAT I SAID, IT IS PROBABLY CORRECT. LET’S SEE YEAH, 13,012 >> THIS IS ALL PROVISIONAL BALLOTS, ACCEPTED, NOT ACCEPTED, NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN, AGAIN, THE LATEST NUMBERS WE HAVE, NONE OF THIS IS FOR SURE, THIS IS THE OTHER PRECINCT ONES, EVERYBODY CLERK BALLOT HAS RESIDENT DONNA, ALL OF IT WILL GO TOWARDS THAT, THAT IS 3908. YOUR FOLLOW-UP? >> THEY ARE TREATED THE SAME WAY. YES SIR? >> OKAY THERE IS A DIFFERENCE ON THIS YOU NOTICE, THEY PUSHED OUT RESULTS ON ELECTION NIGHT. WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN WHAT THEY HAVE UPLOADED AND THEN THEY HAD A BUCKET OF THINGS THAT WERE THE NEW WINDSOR CAME IN ON TUESDAY THERE WERE OTHER ONES THAT WERE THERE FROM THE EARLIER TIME EVER RESCAN. 7000 IS WHAT THEY WERE SCANNING, BUT THE ONLY KNEW VOTES THAT WILL BE UPLOADED WILL BE IN AT 4000 AMOUNT. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? THEY PUSHED OUT A LITTLE OVER 80,000 VOTES IN A SINGLE UPLOAD THERE WAS AN ISSUE BECAUSE OF THE ADJUDICATION WHERE THEY SAID

WE WILL PUSH OUT THE RESULTS, JUST THE RESULTS WE HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE WILL RESCAN THESE THINGS BECAUSE, AT THAT POINT, IT WAS DESIGNED INTERNALLY, THERE WAS AN OPTION A AND OPTION B. THEY WANTED TO GIVE OUT THE INFORMATION. INSIDE THAT 7500 SCANNED, PART OF THE RESULTS THAT WE HAVE SEEN ARE ALREADY THERE. THERE IS A NEW SECTION OF STUFF THAT CAME IN BEFORE 7 PM ON TUESDAY. THOSE ARE THE ADDITIONAL ONES ON TOP OF THAT. AGAIN, FRANKLY WHEN IS AT 3500, I WAS TALKING TO A STAFFER AND I THOUGHT I HAD A CONFIRMED NUMBER, IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN RIGHT NOW. I APOLOGIZE FOR THAT. THIS IS A MOVING TARGET IN ANSWER TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THE NUMBERS WE ARE GETTING FROM THE COUNTY IS A POSSIBLE THEY ARE OFF BY A SMALL PERCENT? YES. AGAIN, THESE PEOPLE ARE UNDERPAID AND OVERWORKED, LIKE SO MANY RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE DOING THE BEST TO GET US THE BEST NUMBERS. WE ARE DOING OUR BEST TO BE OPEN AND TRANSPARENT >> HERE’S THE THING RIGHT NOW IT IS FRUSTRATING TO PEOPLE ACROSS THE COUNTRY. I’VE BEEN WATCHING NEWS COVERAGE IS FROM PHILADELPHIA LAS VEGAS AND EVERYTHING ELSE. THIS IS A LEGAL PROCESS WE HAVE BEEN DOING FOR SEVERAL YEARS. WE ARE STILL INSIDE OF THE WINDOW FOR BALLOTS TO BE COUNTED. THIS IS THE OUTER EDGE OF THE BALLOTS BEING LOST ONES, OF GETTING THEM LEGALLY ESTABLISHED AND COUNTED. THIS IS THE OUTER EDGE OF GETTING THOSE PROVISIONALS VALIDATED AND COUNTED. WE ARE AT THE OUTER EDGE OF GETTING THE ABSENTEES COUNTED. WE WILL KNOW THE FINAL NUMBERS BY TODAY IT WILL BE AN EASY THING TO SEE. NOW, AFTER THAT, WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE FINAL PROCESS OF YOU WILL AUDIT YOUR INTERNAL RESULTS. YOU WILL MAKE SURE THAT YOUR NUMBER LIST OF VOTERS MATCHES THE BALLOTS AND YOUR CARDS. THERE’S A LOT OF PROCESSES THAT ARE THERE TO PROTECT THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE THAT WE HAVE TO GO THROUGH TO FINALIZE THIS. THAT’S WHY WE HAVE THE THIS COUNTY CERTIFICATION PROCESS FOR OUR INTENT IS TO DO THE COUNTIES SYNDICATION FIRST SO WE CAN MOVE TO THE RISK LIMITING AUDIT. THAT WILL VALIDATE , THAT WILL LET PEOPLE KNOW THE PAPER BALLOT I VOTED AND THE OUTCOMES WE SAW ARE CORRECT THAT IS THEIR IMPORTANT PART OF THE PROCESS FOR ONCE THAT IS DONE, WE MOVED TO STATE CERTIFICATION. THE OUTER EDGE WILL BE NOVEMBER 20. WHY IS THAT? BECAUSE WE KNOW WE HAVE A MINIMUM OF ONE RUN OUT THERE MAY BE TWO RUNOFFS FOR UNITED STATES SENATE. THE NEW RULES REQUIRE THAT WE GET THOSE BALLOTS READY TO GO ON SATURDAY, NUMBER 21. WE HAVE TO CERTIFY AN ELECTION BEFORE WE CAN GIVE OUT BALLOTS FOR AN ELECTION. WE HAVE TO GET THAT DONE. JOHN IS BEING GREEDY TODAY. THAT’S OK >> THAT WOULD BE THE INTENT THESE ARE UNOFFICIAL RESULTS THE OFFICIAL RESULTS, IT WOULD BE BASED ON — YES, BIDEN IS AHEAD. BUT, THAT COULD CHANGE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS. HE COULD EXTEND HIS LEAD, STAY THE SAME, OR PRESENT TRUMP COULD COME BACK AND WIN. THERE IS STILL TIME. YES MA’AM >> YOU ARE RIGHT ON THE FIRST ONE. ON THE SECOND ONE, IREA GIVE YOU THE FULTON COUNTY BREAKDOWN. THAT 13,000 DROPS TO ABOUT 9000. SO THEN, INSIDE OF THAT 9000, WE KNOW FOR CERTAIN, WE ADDED 300 908 THAT WERE OUT OF PRECINCT. THAT FURTHER DROPS YOUR NUMBER DOWN TO, WE SHOULD NEVER DO MATH ON NATIONAL TELEVISION. IT IS ABOUT 5000. THOSE ARE THE POTENTIAL, ADDITIONAL VOTES ON TOP OF THE ONES THAT WE ABSOLUTELY KNOW ABOUT. YES MA’AM? >> THE LIKELIHOOD OF SOME OF THEM HAVE, THE BULK OF THEM WILL NOT LIKE I SAID BEFORE, IT IS EASIEST TO DO THEM AT THE END OF THE DAY >> THEY ARE ROUGHLY THE SAME RIGHT NOW. WE HAVEN’T SEEN TOO MUCH MOTION ON THE HOUSE. WE HAVE SEEN, ALL DAY LONG, TIKI TECHIE THINGS FROM THE COUNTIES

YES SIR? LET’S GO THROUGH THIS ONE MORE TIME. WE HAVE A CERTIFICATION PROCESS. THERE’S A LOT OF PAPERWORK TO KNOW THAT ALL OF OUR BALLOTS ARE THERE AND ACCOUNTED FOR THE COUNTY SAYS YES, STATE, WE NOTE THIS IS OUR FINAL NUMBER. WE WILL LOOK AT IT AND ASSESS IT AND WE CERTIFY IT THE RISK LIMITING AUDIT IS THE ITEM THAT WILL BE PART OF THE FOUNDATION, THE BEDROCK OF TRUSS. IT WILL CERTIFY THAT THE SCANNERS REFLECTED WHAT WAS ON THE PAPER BALLOT VOTES. THAT IS WORTH THE REASSURANCE COMES FROM YES? >> NO SIR. THANK YOU >> OKAY >>> I WILL SAY AGAIN WHEN WE FIRST STARTED WHEN WE CAN

IN GEORGIA,

IN DETERMINING

THE NEXT PRESIDENT

? TOO MANY IRREGULARITIES IN THE SELECTION FOR US, THE

PEOPLE, TO ACCEPT IT AND AS YOU SEE THE REAL VOTES, THE ONES

THAT WALKED OUT, THEY VOTED

FOR TRUMP. ALL THE MAIL INS WERE BIDEN, VERY PECULIAR, THAT’S NOT

NATURAL, NOT NATURAL AT ALL. IT IS KIND OF REMARKABLE THAT A MAN

I GOT NOBODY TO SHOW UP AT ANY OF HIS RALLIES GETS 73

MILLION VOTES. IT IS UNHEARD OF FOR DOESN’T MAKE SENSE

>> Reporter: THERE IS NO A5 AND PENN WYNNE WITH A FAIR ELECTION

HERE

THERE IS NO WAY. IT IS

ALREADY HERE

>>> THIS IS THE MOST IMPORTANT ELECTION IN THE HISTORY OF OUR

COUNTRY >> WE ARE IN A BATTLE FOR THE

SOUL OF THIS NATION >> ONLY YOUR VOTE CAN SAVE

AMERICA >> IT IS TIME TO STAND UP AND

TAKE BACK OUR DEMOCRACY >> THE CITIZENS OF THIS COUNTRY

HAVE COME OUT. THIS IS A RECORD THERE’S NEVER BEEN ANYTHING LIKE

IT IS OUR INCREDIBLE

MOVEMENT >> IT IS NOT MY PLACE OR DONALD

TRUMP’S PLEAS TO DECLARE WHO HAS WON THIS ELECTION. THAT IS THE

DECISION OF THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY HIM OPTIMISTIC ABOUT

THIS COME >> 143 MILLION VOTES HAVE BEEN

COUNTED IN AMERICA IS GETTING CLOSER TO FINDING OUT WHO WILL

OCCUPY THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS. YOU’RE WATCHING

THE

WASHINGTON POST SPECIAL REPORT GOOD EVENING. HERE ARE THE

LATEST HEADLINES PROVIDED HAS EXPANDED HIS LEAD IN NEVADA AND

PENNSYLVANIA. THEY ARE ALSO READING BUT THE STATE REMAINS

TOO CLOSE TO CALL. THEY SAID THEY ARE ANTICIPATING A RECOUNT

HERE TALKING TO CONGRESS PARTY CONTROL IN THE SENATE HANGS IN

THE BALANCE, FORMER ASTRONAUT MIKE KELLY OR MARK KELLY RATHER,

A DEMOCRAT BEAT

OUT INCUMBENT MARTHA IN SALLY TO BEAT OUT A SENATE SEAT IN

ARIZONA. 17 ELECTORAL VOTES STAND BETWEEN JOE BIDEN AND THE

PRESIDENCY SO LET’S GO BACK TO OUR ELECTION INSIGHTS SEEN IN

THE WASHINGTON POST DIRECTOR OF

ENGINEERING >> ABSOLUTELY. THERE’S BEEN A

LOT OF MOVEMENT TODAY BUT NOT A WHOLE LOT OF CHANGE IN THE

OVERALL OUTCOME. THE SAME STATES ARE ABOUT THE SAME COLOR AS THEY WERE EARLIER TODAY BUT WE UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE RACE AND A LITTLE BIT MORE ABOUT THE STANDING OF BOTH THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT AND PRESIDENT TRUMP. GOING TO START WITH ARIZONA BECAUSE YOU MENTIONED THAT ARIZONA SENATE RACE. IN ARIZONA, YOU KNOW, JOE BIDEN HAS A STRONG LEAD AT THE MOMENT AND WHAT WE’RE WATCHING IS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS STARTING TO NARROW THE GAP A LITTLE BIT IN THE SEAT OF ARIZONA. DOING BETTER IN THE PALLETS THEY’VE BEEN COUNTING RECENTLY THE REAL QUESTION IS GOING TO BE CAN HE CONTINUE DOING WELL BEFORE THEY RAN OUT OF VIOLENCE. THAT IS THE ONLY THING THEY’LL BE WATCHING TONIGHT AS WE GET ADDITIONAL BALLOTS IN. WE’RE WATCHING THE STATE OF NEVADA. THAT IS REALLY INTERESTING BEFORE FOR US BECAUSE IT IS A SINGLE COUNTY AND HAS THE VAST MAJORITY OF THE PALLETS THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE COUNTING NOW, WE’RE GOING TO TURN OUR EYES FOR A MINUTE TO THE EAST COAST. ON THE EAST COAST WE HAVE A REALLY CLOSE RACE IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, JUST A FEW VOTES LEAD FOR THE FORMER VICE PRESIDENT. BECAUSE OF A POSSIBLE RECOUNT AND MILITARY ABOUT THAT HAVE NOT BEEN COUNTED, THAT MAY LEAD IS ONE THAT WE ARE JUST GOING TO STAY AWAY FROM. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS THAT IT IS GOING TO BE DIFFICULT TO PROJECT HOW LIKELY IT IS FOR BIDEN TO HOLD THAT STATE. TWO OTHER STATES WERE WATCHING, DOCTOR LENAWEE COUNTY GRAND TOTAL OF A FEW HUNDRED VOTES SENT TO US TODAY IN THAT STATE. DONALD TRUMP LEADS THE STATE OF MASTER LINE AT THE MOMENT. HE HAS A SMALL BUT REASONABLE LEAD. A LITTLE UNDER TWO PERCENTAGE POINTS AND THAT IS AN INTERESTING THING CLEAR STILL WAITING FOR BALLOT IN SOME POTENTIALLY DEMOCRATIC AREAS SO IT IS POSSIBLE BIDEN COULD NARROW THIS LEAD THOUGH THE MODEL, THE ONE WE WERE LOOKING AT MOST RECENTLY DOES NOT SHOW THAT HE WILL NECESSARILY CATCH BACK UP WITHOUT SOME TRULY INTERESTING INCREASE IN BALLOTS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR HIM IN PLACES LIKE MECKLENBURG COUNTY OR WAKE COUNTY. CLEAR WAY TO FINISH OFF THIS DISCUSSION WITH PENNSYLVANIA, THE STATE THAT ALL EYES ARE COMPLETELY GONE AND THE REASON WHY, 20 ELECTORAL VOTES TO TAKE THE PRESIDENCY. WE ARE EXPECTING A FEW THAT ARE REALLY INTERESTING IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA WE’RE LIKELY TO SEE A RELATIVELY LARGE BATCH OF VOTES AND THAT IS LIKELY TO BE FAIRLY DEMOCRATIC IT’S POSSIBLE THAT EVEN IF THERE ARE NO NEW VOTES, THERE MIGHT BE A NEW UNDERSTANDING OF HOW MANY VOTES ARE LEFT OUTSTANDING SO WE ARE GOING TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THAT BUT FOR THE MOMENT AT LEAST IT IS GOING TO BE BACK TO YOU IN THE STUDIO. SYMMETRIC YOU SO MUCH LET’S GO TO I GUESS THIS EVENING. NATIONAL SECURITY REPORTER C REPORTER AND JAMES HILLMAN, LAST POLITICAL REPORTER., COME WE GOT THE LATEST TALLIES FROM JEREMY, BUT, LET’S JUST TALK ABOUT WHAT WE MAY SEE TONIGHT, WHAT WE ARE ALL REALLY WAITING FOR THERE >> THERE’S TWO PATHS THAT BIDEN HAS PICKED MOST IMMEDIATELY TO GET THE PRESIDENCY THE EASIEST IS PENNSYLVANIA, IT IS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES, IT PUTS HIM CLEARLY OVER THE TOP

AND IN THE SECOND HALF IS ARIZONA AND NEVADA WHERE ARIZONA IS CLOSE ENOUGH, WE’RE GOING TO GET PALLETS IT IS GOING TO BE A LITTLE BIT HARDER TO CALL THEM PENNSYLVANIA AND THEN ARIZONA OR GEORGIA IS JUST SO CLOSE AND THERE ARE STILL THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PROVISIONAL MILITARY BALLOT SO WE ARE NOT GOING TO GET ANY KIND OF DECISION ON GEORGIA TONIGHT FORMALIZING THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN ARE IN, THEY ARE CONTINUING TO SLIP AWAY FROM THEM. THE BIDEN FOLKS ARE VERY HOPEFUL THEY BELIEVE IT IS JUST A MATTER OF TIME BASED ON WHERE THE PALLETS ARE OUTSTANDING AND THERE’S A LOT OF SOUL-SEARCHING GOING ON TODAY AMONG TRUMP PEOPLE ABOUT MAYBE IT WAS A MISTAKE TO SPEND MONTHS DISCOURAGING MAIL-IN VOTING WHEN IT IS NOW IN A STATE LIKE PENNSYLVANIA COMING DOWN TO THESE MAIL-IN BALLOTS OUTSIDE PITTSBURGH >> SO, PEOPLE THAT ARE WATCHING AND JUST WANT TO KNOW WHEN THINGS ARE GOING TO HAPPEN, LET’S JUST TALK THROUGH THE REALITY OF THIS AS SORT OF THE WAITING IN THE PROCESS THAT THAT IS UNFOLDING, FEELS LIKE PRETTY SLOWLY BEFORE OUR EYES >> PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE AND WANTS TO MAKE A MISTAKE HERE. NO ONE WANTS TO CALL A RACE PREMATURELY BEFORE WE ARE ABLE TO DO SO. JILL BIDEN DOESN’T WANT TO BE SHOWN AS PREMATURELY DECLARING VICTORY ALTHOUGH HE ESSENTIALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES HAS EXPRESSED HIGH CONFIDENCE AND SO EVERYONE IS TRYING TO.THE EYES AND CROSS THE TEASE AND I KNOW THAT IS FRUSTRATING FOR FOLKS AT HOME BUT THESE ELECTION OFFICIALS ARE WORKING HARD >> THIS IS REGARDLESS OF SORT OF THE NOISE THAT IS OUT THERE THIS IS THE PROCESS THAT NEWS ORGANIZATIONS AND THAT, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE WHO CALL THE RACIST SORT OF DECIDE TO UNDERTAKE THIS CAREFUL AND METHODICAL PROCESS HERE AS THEY WATCH HOW THE STATES CONTINUE TO COUNT THE BALLOTS >> IT REALLY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH TRUMP. EVERYONE IS AWARE OF THE PRESIDENT BUT THAT IS NO IMPACT ON THE ACTUAL DECISION-MAKING. WHAT EVER THE IS A TESTAMENT TO HIS HOW COST ON CLOSE A LOT OF THESE STATES ARE WHEN ALL OF THIS SHAKES OUT, BUT, IT REALLY COME ALL OF THE STUFF IS GOING ON IT WITH THE NEW IF REPUBLICANS IN THE STATE LEGISLATURE HAD ALLOWED EARLY VOTE TO BE COUNTED AND CANVASSED BEFORE ELECTION DAY, WHICH THEY WALK. WE WOULD’VE HAD A CALL PROBABLY ON TUESDAY NIGHT THE FACT THAT WE ARE A VERY DIVIDED COUNTRY, YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK TO HAVE SOME MISTAKES THAT I WAS IN BASICALLY 10,000 VOTES IS REALLY UNUSUAL BUT ALSO SPEAKS TO JUST HOW DIVIDED THE COUNTRY IS >> GREAT POINT >> WE ARE HEARING GUIDANCE THAT THE GUIDED BIDEN CAMPAIGN SAYS THE OF FORMER VICE PRESIDENT IS EXPECTED TO SPEAK LATER ON TONIGHT, HE, IF THERE AREN’T ANY DECLARATIONS FROM PENNSYLVANIA HE WILL AT LEAST GIVE AN UPDATE ON THE PROGRESS OF THE RACE AND ALSO EXUDE SOME CONFIDENCE THAT THE RACE IS HIS RIGHT NOW HE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING SUPPORTERS AND ALSO THE PRESS AT SOME POINT TONIGHT AND THEN ALSO THAT SIGNALS IF YOU LOOK AT HIM COMING OUT YESTERDAY AND THE DAY BEFORE, HE’S GETTING THESE VERY BRIEF AND CONCISE UPDATES EVEN THOUGH THAT TEAM MAY NOT HAVE CONCRETE EVIDENCE THAT THEY’VE WON THE VOTE COUNT YET. THEY FEEL THEY ARE DOING THE SORT OF PRESIDENTIAL UPDATES TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHERE THEY STAND AND CONTINUE TO SEND SOME ENCOURAGEMENT, SO, THAT’S WHAT

WE ARE EXPECTING FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ABOUT ANY PUBLIC ADDRESSES FROM THE PRESIDENT OR HIS SIDE THIS EVENING. BUT OF COURSE, WE SHOULD STAY TUNED BECAUSE AT ANY MOMENT HE COULD WANT TO GIVE AN ADDRESS AS WELL SHE HAS BEEN TREATING MOST RECENTLY HE HAS BEEN CALLING INTO QUESTION THE MILITARY BALLOTS IN GEORGIA AND ASKING THOSE IN THE SORT OF SUGGESTION SOME PRIORITIES BUT WE DON’T HAVE ANY INDICATION THAT THERE ARE PROBLEMS WITH THE MILITARY BALLOTS COMING TO GEORGIA >> AND IT WAS CALLED TO THE WHITE HOUSE SO THAT GIVES US SOME INDICATION OF THE LOWER LEVEL OF ACTIVITY OVER THERE AND OUT EVEN AS THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN TAKES WHAT OUR COLLEAGUE DESCRIBED AS THE LEGAL SPAGHETTI APPROACH OF THROWING ANYTHING AGAINST THE WALL TO SEE WHAT STICKS. WHEN THE BIDEN HARRIS CAMPAIGN SPEAKS, IF THEY ARE INDEED DECLARED, YOU KNOW THAT IS GOING TO BE ONE FOR THE HISTORY BOOKS AND ONE THAT JILL BIDEN WILL BE SAVORING AND REALLY WANTING TO DO WITH INTENTION AND ESPECIALLY WITH THAT WEDDING DATE,, S, WHO WOULD BE BREAKING SO MANY BARRIERS >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD FROM KAMALA HARRIS YET. THEY’VE BEEN FEEDING HER BECAUSE THEY APPRECIATE THE HISTORIC NATURE FIRST WOMAN AS VICE PRESIDENT, FIRST AFRICAN-AMERICAN, FIRST ASIAN-AMERICAN. I’VE HEARD THE BIDEN SPEECHES ABOUT 20 MINUTES AND IT IS PRETTY LOCKED. TO THE PROMPTER’S THEY DON’T KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO DELIVER IT TONIGHT AND IT IS NOTEWORTHY THAT BIDEN CAMPAIGN DOES NOT EXPECT HIM TO CONCEDE. CAN FACT ANDREW BATES SENT A STATEMENT THIS AFTERNOON THAT SAID AS WE’VE BEEN SAYING SINCE JULY, WHEN TRUMP FIRST SUGGESTED THAT HE MIGHT NOT PEACEFULLY TRANSFER POWER IF HE LOSES, YOU KNOW, THE WHITE HOUSE HAS WAYS OF GETTING RID OF TRESPASSERS. IT WAS KIND OF A TROLL STATEMENT AND ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY WERE SAYING IS, YOU KNOW, IT DOESN’T MATTER WHETHER IT IS CONCEDES OR NOT. DID SORT OF TAKEN MY POSTURE BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO BE DEPENDENT ON TRUMP HAVE THEIR BIG MOMENT AND TO SORT OF START ROLLING OUT SOME OF THESE PERSONNEL MOVES. THERAPY AND TRANSMISSION MEETINGS ALL DAY TODAY. THEY ARE ACTING AS IF THEY HAVE WON THEY HAVE NOT MADE ANY PUBLIC USING ANNOUNCEMENTS BECAUSE THEY DON’T WANT TO LOOK LIKE THEY ARE GETTING AHEAD OF THEIR SKIS >> LET’S GO TO MISSY. IS THERE A CHANCE FOR MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY TO HAVE THEIR SAY IN THE ELECTION BUT ALSO THIS YEAR? IS VALID ARE SO POTENTIALLY KEY IN THE COUNT BECAUSE ACCOUNTS ARE SO CLOSE TELL US MORE. ARE SERVICEMEMBERS THAT ARE STATIONED AWAY FROM THE HOMES WITHIN THE UNITED STATES AND OF COURSE OVERSEAS AND USE MAIL-IN VOTING EVERY YEAR AS OFTEN AS YOU SAY DOES NOT GET MUCH ATTENTION BECAUSE WE DON’T NORMALLY HAVE THIS EXTENDED NAILBITER THAT WE HAVE THIS YEAR AND JUST TO GET THE IDEA IN 2016, TROOPS AND THEIR FAMILIES CAST ABOUT 630,000 3630 BALLOTS ONLY THEY HAVE A PERIOD, NORMALLY THEY HAVE A PERIOD AFTER THE ELECTION WHEN THOSE MILITARY BALLOTS CAN BE ACCEPTED AND, YOU KNOW, WE WERE LOOKING AT THE SIX DATES YESTERDAY THAT WERE COMMUNAL, THE COUNTY WAS CONTINUING AND EVEN IN THOSE STATES, SOME OF THE BALLOTS COULD BE ACCEPTED UP TO TWO WEEKS AFTER THE DATE OF THE ELECTION, SO, YOU ARE LOOKING AT A SIGNIFICANT CUSHION TO GIVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE FOR SOME OF THESE SERVICEMEMBERS WHO, AS YOU KNOW, SOME OF THEM WOULD BE STATIONED ON SUBMARINES OR AIRCRAFT CARRIERS OR BASES AROUND THE WORLD AND SO THEY ARE REALLY DESIGNED TO CAST THE VOTE AND WHAT WE ARE SEEING THIS YEAR IS THE CLOSE COUNTS THAT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO POTENTIALLY PLAY MORE OF AN IMPORTANT ROLE AND FOR EXAMPLE IN GEORGIA, AS OF THIS AFTERNOON, THERE WERE ABOUT A LITTLE MORE THAN 8000 MILITARY BALLOTS THAT WERE STILL EXPECTED TO POSSIBLY ARRIVE SO THEY SEND OUT THEIR REQUEST BALLOTS, THEY GO OUT AND SO WE DON’T KNOW WHETHER IT WILL BE A COUPLE HUNDRED OR A COUPLE THOUSAND THAT WILL HAVE COME IN. THE DEADLINE IN GEORGIA WAS TODAY AT 5:00 PM AND WE DON’T HAVE THE UPDATED NUMBERS YET. WE ASSUME THOSE ARE REPROCESSED RIGHT NOW BUT IN GEORGIA BUT WE DO KNOW IS THAT THE LARGER

NUMBER OF BALLOTS WERE IN SUBURBAN AREAS THAT HAVE GONE MORE HEAVILY FOR BIDEN SO FAR AND IN PENNSYLVANIA SINCE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT THE DEADLINE FOR THE MILITARY BALLOTS IS NOVEMBER 10th >> BRING US UP TO SPEED. COW IS THE COUNT GOING? >> Reporter: PAGES POSTED 2300 NOUVEAU, JUST NEWLY COUNTED, NOT NOUVEAU, GOSH NEWLY COUNTED VOTES THAT WERE CAST BY ELECTION DAY AND RECEIVED BY ELECTION DAY. GOT 2300 OF THOSE IN POST TO THOSE ON THE WEBSITE JUST ABOUT 30 MINUTES AGO SO THOSE ARE EXPECT INCLUDED IN THE NEW TOTAL THAT YOU JUST GAVE YOURS WHICH IS TERRIFIC. ONE DEVELOPMENT IS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY OF PENNSYLVANIA HAS FILED WITH THE UNITED STATES SUPREME COURT TO HALT THE COUNT OF THE VOTES THAT WERE CAST BY ELECTION DAY, BUT RECEIVED ON WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY, FRIDAY BY MAIL AND THOSE ARE LEGALLY CAST VOTES ACCORDING TO THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT, THAT WAS A DECISION THAT THEY RELEASED BACK IN SEPTEMBER AND WHAT THEY ARE ASKING FOR IN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS TO SEGREGATE THOSE BALLOTS, TO PUT THAT ASIDE, LOG THEM IN AND DON’T COUNT THEM YET. AND THE INTERESTING THING IS THAT THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE EARLIER TODAY, WE LEARNED FROM THE ADELPHIA COUNTY OFFICIAL ELECTION OFFICIALS THAT THOSE BALLOTS, THAT THERE’S BEEN A DIRECTIVE FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE TO DO EXACTLY THAT, SO, THIS IS A REQUEST TO DO SOMETHING THAT IS ALREADY BEING DONE. QUITE QUICKLY AND THE ONLY REASON THEY CAN MAKE THIS REQUEST TO THE SUPREME COURT IS BECAUSE THAT IS THE ONE CASE THAT IS ALREADY IN THE PIPELINE OF THE SUPREME COURT. YOU MIGHT REMEMBER THAT HE DID NOT, THEY REFUSED TO GET INVOLVED IN OVERTURNING THAT DECISION OF THE PENNSYLVANIA SUPREME COURT TO COUNT THE BALLOTS THAT ARRIVED WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY AND SHOULD HAVE ASKED ABOUT THESE BALLOTS THAT ARE COMING IN HOMERING UP YOUR THEY ARE SHRINK-WRAPPED, BUT ASIDE, NOBODY IS TOUCHING THEM. TO GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF THE NUMBERS EARLIER ALLEGANY COUNTY, BUT YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER SAID THAT THEY HAVE ABOUT 1000 OF THOSE BALLOTS THAT HAVE ARRIVED WEDNESDAY, THURSDAY AND FRIDAY THAT IS 29,000 BALLOTS CAST, SO, WE ARE NOT SURE THAT THAT CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE TO BE A TARGETED REMEDY IF, FOR WHATEVER REASON THE UNITED STATES UP IN COURT DECIDES THAT THOSE BALLOTS SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED, THEY ARE ALREADY SEGREGATED ABOUT. THIS WILL BE A REMEDY AND IT IS A TARGETED REMEDY SO YOU DON’T HAVE TO DO A WHOLE OTHER COUNT. YEAH, SO THEY WOULD NOT HAVE A HUGE IMPACT ON THE ELECTION ACCORDING TO ELECTION OFFICIALS >> I KNOW YOU BEEN TALKING TO POLL OBSERVERS. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING ABOUT THE PROCESS? >> YEAH, THAT WAS A REALLY INTERESTING CONVERSATION. I SAW A WOMAN DURING THE PRESS CONFERENCE THAT I HAVE SEEN EARLIER IN THE DAY ON THE LIVE STREAMED THAT WE HAVE GOING FOR A LONG TIME FOR SEVERAL DAYS, SO, I RECOGNIZED HER AS A POLL OBSERVER AND SHE CAME OVER AND DID AN INTERVIEW WITH US. SHE’S A POLL WATCHER FOR THE GREEN PARTY. HE AND ANOTHER GENTLEMAN WHO HAD BEEN IN THERE AND WE ARE GOING TO SET UP THAT INTERVIEW FOR LATER, THEY SAID THAT THEY HAVE BEEN HERE SINCE TUESDAY, NOT 24/7 LIKE THE COUNTERS HAD YOU BEEN HERE SINCE TUESDAY HERE COMES THAT IT IS BEEN RUNNING VERY WELL THAT THEY HAVE SEEN NO EVIDENCE OF FRAUD AND THAT EVERYBODY, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY REALLY WANTED TO STRESS IS THAT IT HAS THE SAME VIEW REPUBLICANS, DEMOCRATS, GREEN PARTY, EVERYONE IS IN THE SAME PLACE. GOVERNMENT HAS THE EXACT VIEW AND IT ALL SEEMS VERY NORMAL AND ABOVE BOARD >> ALL RIGHT MARY BETH ALBRIGHT, SO APPRECIATE YOUR REPORTING, THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET’S GO BACK TO MISSY RYAN. WERE JUST LAYING OUT FOR US SOME OF THE DEADLINES OF THESE MILITARY BALLOTS BEING RECEIVED. TO BE CLEAR THEY HAD TO BE CAST ON TIME BUT THEY CAN BE RECEIVED DEPENDING WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM. LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT MILITARY FAMILY MEMBERS FACE IN TERMS OF JUST LOADING BECAUSE YOU KNOW WE KNOW SO MANY FAMILIES HAVE TO YOU

MOVE EVERY COUPLE OF YEARS FROM PLACE TO PLACE, SO, HOW MUCH OF AN EFFORT IS THEN MADE TO JUST ENSURE THAT THEY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE AND THAT THERE IS CLARITY ABOUT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE VOTING AND THINKING ABOUT WHERE THEY LIVE IS WITH ERIK HAULA BALLOT MIGHT BE COUNTED? >> IT IS A VERY INTERESTING QUESTION AND THERE ACTUALLY IS A SIGNIFICANT SORT OF ADDITIONAL EFFORT THAT GOES INTO FACILITATING VOTES BY SERVICEMEMBERS AND THEIR FAMILIES JUST BECAUSE AS YOU SAY THEY DO MOVE AROUND SO MUCH AND OFTEN ARE OVERSEAS, TYPICALLY THERE IS A VOTING ASSISTANCE OFFICER IN EVERY UNIT DESIGNATED PERSON AND EVERY UNIT AND THAT PERSON’S JOB IS TO GO AROUND AND MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY IS REQUESTING THEIR BALLOT AND THAT THEY ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE HERE ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE FOUND DURING REPORTING FOR THESE STORIES IN THE PAST FEW WEEKS IS THAT IT REALLY DOES VARY WHERE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE SO IT IS DIFFICULT TO MAKE CONCLUSIONS ABOUT WHICH WAY THINGS ARE GOING TO BREAK IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, MILITARY STATES THAT HAVE THE BASIS. SOME SERVICEMEMBERS ARE REGISTERED IN THE LAST, IN THE AREA WHERE THEY WERE LAST STATIONED. SOME PEOPLE OWN HOMES IN OTHER STATES, SOME YOUNGER TROOPS MAY BE REGISTERED IN THEIR PARENTS HOMES FOR EXAMPLE, SO, IT REALLY DOES VARY, BUT, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE MILITARY HAS DONE THIS YEAR IN PARTICULAR WAS TO PUT AN EMPHASIS BECAUSE OF THE DELAYS WE DISCUSSED TO THE POSTAL SERVICE AND THE PROCESSING OF MAIL WAS TO TRY TO GET PEOPLE TO RETURN THEIR BALLOTS EARLY SO THAT MAY AFFECT THE NUMBERS THAT WE ARE GOING TO SEE IN THE NEXT DAY OR TWO IN GEORGIA AND THEN IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS IN PENNSYLVANIA, SO, HOPEFULLY PEOPLE WERE ABLE TO GET THEIR BALLOTS IN ON TIME. I THINK I MENTIONED A FEW MINUTES AGO THAT IN 2016 THERE ABOUT 630,000 TRUTH AND FAMILY MEMBER VOTES THAT WERE CAST AND THERE WERE ABOUT 20,020 16 THAT WERE REJECTED, MOSTLY BECAUSE THEY DID NOT ARRIVE IN TIME SO PRESUMABLY WE WILL HAVE SOME OF THOSE AS WELL. PEOPLE WHO MAIL IN THEIR BALLOTS BUT THEY DON’T MEET THE DEADLINE FOR THE STATE WHERE THEY ARE REGISTERED >> GREAT TO KNOW THAT, MISSY SO, LET’S TALK ABOUT HOW THESE MILITARY VOTES MIGHT COME IN NOW, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL BECAUSE IF WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR THEM TO BE COUNTED, YOU KNOW, TIME WILL TELL BUT THERE IS A REAL QUESTION ABOUT JUST HOW SUPPORTIVE MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY WOULD BE KIND OF DIFFICULT TO SEPARATE THOSE FOLKS AT PEER COURT WE DO KNOW IS THAT TRADITIONALLY THERE HAVE BEEN SOME POLLS THAT THIS YEAR THAT I’VE LOOKED AT SLICES OF THE MILITARY I HAVE SUGGESTED, SOMEONE SUPPORT MAY BE SHIFTING TOWARDS BIDEN ESPECIALLY AMONG TROOPS AND I THINK YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE IN THE MILITARY ARE SO DIVERSE AND PEOPLE TEND TO CARE ABOUT THE THINGS THAT OTHER AMERICANS CARE ABOUT. THERE MAY BE MORE COMMONALITIES ON ISSUES OF NATIONAL SECURITY AND SUPPORT FOR THE MILITARY OBVIOUSLY FROM CONGRESS AND IN TERMS OF FUNDING BUT IT REALLY IS HARD TO MAKE GENERALIZATIONS ABOUT HOW THE MILITARY IS POLITICALLY AND, YOU KNOW, I WOULD ASSUME THAT WE WOULD SEE A BREAKDOWN BASED ON OTHER FACTORS, YOU KNOW, REGARDING AGE OR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS, DEMOGRAPHICS, ALL OF THAT >> THERE WAS A REAL QUESTION OF THE MILITARY WOULD TURN AGAINST TRUMP IN THEIR VOTE AFTER THE ATLANTIC PUBLISHED AN ARTICLE WHERE PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS SAYING VERY DISMISSIVE AND DEROGATORY AND CRITICAL THINGS ABOUT MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY AND PEOPLE’S DECISION TO SERVE PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID HIMSELF THAT WASN’T TRUE BUT REMIND US OF WHY THAT WAS SUCH A SIGNIFICANT NEWS STORY AT THE TIME >> IT CAME ON THE HEELS OF A LOT OF OTHER STORIES THAT SUGGESTED THEY SORT OF DON’T RESPECT MILITARY SERVICE. WILL REMEMBER IN 2016 DURING THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION, TRUMP CRITICIZED KHAN, THE FATHER OF A GOLDSTAR, A GOLDSTAR FATHER WHO LOST HIS SON IN IRAQ WHO WAS MUSLIM AND, YOU KNOW, JOHN KELLY, THE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF REPORTEDLY WAS WITH TRUMP AT ARLINGTON CEMETERY ON BOREAL DAY AND TRANSCEND WHAT WAS IN IT FOR HIM, WHY DID HE SERVE? AND THAT KIND OF IS ANATHEMA OBVIOUSLY AND IT’S BEEN SPENT A LOT OF TIME. JOE BIDEN SERVICE, THEIR

LATE SON YOU KNOW, THAT, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS HOPED WE WOULD PAY DIVIDENDS. IT IS INTERESTING, THE MILITARY VOTE HAS BEEN PIVOTAL. ABRAHAM LINCOLN ACTUALLY WON THREE QUARTERS OF THE TROOPS, THEY MADE SURE THAT THE TROOPS IN THE UNION ARMY VOTED DURING THE CIVIL WAR AND THREE QUARTERS OF THEM SUPPORTED LINCOLN AND THAT ACTUALLY WAS PIVOTAL AND DECISIVE IN HELPING LINCOLN SECURE HIS SECOND TERM IT ISN’T THE FIRST TIME IN AMERICAN HISTORY WE’VE BEEN WATCHING TO SEE WHAT THE VOTE BREAKDOWN IS OVERACTIVE DUTY SERVICEMEN >> RHONDA:, EVERY GROUP OF VOTES IS SOLD WEIGHTY RIGHT NOW, BECAUSE THE WRONG — IT IS SO TIGHT IN CRUCIAL STATES >> SO TIGHT AND THINKING OF A STATE LIKE NORTH CAROLINA AND USUALLY SOUTHERN STATES OFTEN HAVE A LOT OF ENDLESS DEEDS, THEY ALSO ARE HOME TO A LOT OF PLACES LIKE GEORGIA AND CAROLINA. I’M THINKING ABOUT HOW THE MILITARY VOTE MIGHT PLAY IN NOW THAT WE KNOW FROM NORTH CAROLINA THAT WE ARE REALLY NOT GOING TO HAVE AN ABSENTEE OR MALE AND VOTE TOTAL UNTIL LAST NEXT WEEK BUT I’M WONDERING IF THAT IS NOT ON A LARGE-SCALE BUT THAT SENATE RACE BECAUSE YOU HAD THOM TILLIS I’M WONDERING IF THAT ALL WILL BABY BUT THE MORE VOTES IN CAL CUNNINGHAM’S COLUMN ONCE THAT IS ALL OVER >> LET’S TALK ABOUT PRESIDENT TRUMP’S EFFORTS TO HALT COUNT, STOP COUNT, SORT OF FREAKING PHRASINGS WHICH IS ABOUT IRONIC AND UNDERMINING BECAUSE HE’S LOSING STATES HERE BUT HOW DOES THAT MEET UP AGAINST THE REALITY OF VOTES THAT WE ARE WAITING FOR INCLUDE THE VOTES OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVED THIS COUNTRY? IN IS A GREAT QUESTION AND THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT, FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU TRYING TO DISENFRANCHISE THE TROOPS BUT YOU KNOW, HIS CAMPAIGN HAS TRIED TO CAVEAT THAT. HAS NOT ADDRESSED THIS WHEN HE TALKED ABOUT STOPPING THE BALLOT EXPLICITLY THAT I HAVE SEEN BUT HIS CAMPAIGN HAS SAID THAT HE DOESN’T MEAN THAT MILITARY BALLOTS SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED WHEN HE SAID FOR EXAMPLE THAT VOTES THAT COME IN AFTER ELECTION DAY SHOULDN’T BE COUNTED COUNTED HE WASN’T REFERRING TO MILITARY BALLOTS, THAT THOSE VOTES SHOULD BE COUNTED. AND SO IT APPEARS TO BE SOMETHING THAT EVERYBODY IS, YOU KNOW, WILLING TO CONCEDE THAT THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS THAT ARE LEGITIMATE AND LONG-STANDING >> HOW WERE OTHERS UNDERSTANDING HIS WORDS? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, WE TALKED TO A NUMBER OF RETIRED SENIOR DEFENSE OFFICIALS AND OFFICERS YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS, THESE PEOPLE SACRIFICED SO MUCH FOR US, THERE’S ONLY A TINY PERCENTAGE OF AMERICANS WHO ACTUALLY SERVE IN THE MILITARY AND SO THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS COUNT THEIR VOTES WHEN THEY CAST THEM AND, YOU KNOW, IF THEY ARRIVE AFTER ELECTION DAY AND THAT IS ALLOWED BY THE STATE WHERE THEY ARE REGISTERED, THAT THOSE VOTES SHOULD BE COUNTED AND I DON’T THINK THAT, ACCORDING TO WHAT WE’VE HEARD FROM THE CAMPAIGN, THAT IDEA IS CONTROVERSIAL BUT IT MIGHT BE WHAT THEY SEE WHEN IT COMES DOWN TO THE OVERALL COUNT OF, YOU KNOW, MILITARY PROVISIONAL

BALLOTS WHICH ARE THE ONES THAT ARE THE LATEST ONES TO COME IN AND WHAT HAPPENS IN THE RECOUNTS? >> IS JUST INCREDIBLE. IT IS SORE SORT OF NONSENSICAL. VOTING COMMUNITY COMPLICATED PROCESS. COMING, YOU MAY HAVE TO GO TO EXTRA LENGTHS TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE DOES ARRIVE IN TIME. THAT YOU GET YOUR BALLOT IN TIME AND YOU GET IT BACK IN TIME. PEOPLE PAY A LOT OF MONEY SOMETIMES TO MAKE SURE IT CAN GET THROUGH THE MAIL. IN YOU, THERE ARE EXCEPTIONS THAT MANY MAKE FOR SERVICEMEMBERS TO BE ABLE TO VOTE BY EMAIL OR FAX. IS COMPLICATED AND CERTAINLY YOU CAN IMAGINE, CERTAINLY DURING THIS YEAR WHERE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN HAVING TO TAKE SPECIAL PRECAUTIONS OVERSEAS BECAUSE OF COVID IS EVEN MORE COMPLICATED BUT THAT IS WHAT WORKS CLOSELY WITH THE U.S POSTAL SERVICE HAS DONE IS THEY TAKE STEPS FOR PEOPLE TO MAIL THEIR BALLOT IN AN EXPRESS AND THEN THERE ARE THESE VOTING ASSISTANCE OFFICERS AND THERE ARE CERTAIN THINGS THEY CAN DO IF THEIR BALLOT DOESN’T ARRIVE OR THEY CAN PRINT THINGS IN. THERE ARE A LOT OF PROVISIONS MADE BUT IF THEY DON’T DO IT IN TIME, IT, YOU KNOW, IF THERE’S A CRUSH OF PEOPLE WHO WAIT TILL THE LAST MINUTE, LET’S GO BACK TO THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS HERE AND, YOU KNOW, BUT IT SAYS ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE, YOU KNOW, RAISING SOME ALARM BELLS OVER THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES SAYING THAT COUNTING SHOULD STOP, WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT VOTES THAT WERE ILLEGALLY, SORRY, VOTES THAT WERE LEGALLY PLACED THREE LEGAL AND PROTECTABLE PROCESS MIGHT NOT BE TALLIED HOW THAT COULD INCLUDE MEMBERS OF THE MILITARY FORCES >> YEAH, LIBBY, THEY HAVE NOT PROVIDED ANY EVIDENCE STILL OUT ALL. ONE IOTA TO PACK UP THESE CLAIMS OF FRAUD AND YOU KNOW, THE TRON POSITION ISN’T THAT THE MILITARY BALLOTS SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED I THINK IF YOU ASK THEM, THEY WOULD SAY OF COURSE THERE WOULD BE AN EXCEPTION. WHAT THAT HIGHLIGHTS THEY ARE LITERALLY THROWING IN THE KITCHEN SINK, ARGUMENTS IN THE SAME COURTHOUSE IS IN DIFFERENT CASES ARE CONTRADICTORY, YOU KNOW, LITERALLY SET ON FOXBUSINESS LAST NIGHT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE COUNTING ON THE FACT THAT AMY CONEY BARRETT IS THERE AND THE PRESIDENT APPOINTED THREE JUSTICES AND SO THAT I THINK IS THE WAY TO THINK ABOUT THE LEGAL STRATEGY. HE’S BEEN INVOLVED IN SOMETHING LIKE 40,000 LAWSUITS AND YOU KNOW COME I THINK THAT IS THE BEST WAY TO THINK BIG PICTURE ABOUT THIS TO THE POINT WANDA WAS MAKING A MINUTE AGO OBAMA’S WHOLE EVENT WAS AND THAT MILITARY FAMILIES, TROOPS ONE OF THE THINGS ABOUT THE MILITARY AS WELL IT IS MORE SOCIALLY CONSERVATIVE, IT IS ALSO VERY DIVERSE, THERE’S A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICANS, YOU KNOW, THIS IS A MAJOR BASE WITH TENS AND TENS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE SO IT WAS A HEAVENLY AFRICAN-AMERICAN CROWD AND, YOU KNOW, OBAMA WAS TALKING ABOUT EVERYTHING HE HAD DONE FOR THE TROOPS AND TRYING TO GET PEOPLE TO VOTE FOR HILLARY CLINTON WERE GOING TO GO ON AND ON AND ON AND AT THE END YOU KNOW, THE

BALLOTS DID BREAK MORE TOWARD DONALD TRUMP BUT NOT OVERWHELMINGLY SO, YOU KNOW, THESE MILITARY BALLOTS CAN BE SIGNIFICANT AND IN NORTH CAROLINA, YOU KNOW, THAT RACE ENDED UP BEING A FOUR POINT RACE IN 2016 BUT AT THE TIME IT SEEMED LIKE IT WAS THE CLOSEST STATE ON THE MAP >> YOU’RE WATCHING LIVE COVERAGE AND LIKE EVERYONE, WE ARE WATCHING THE BALLOT ACCOUNTS, WE ARE WATCHING FOR TALLIES AND YOU CAN SEE RIGHT BEFORE YOUR EYES, THE PROCESS HAPPENING. WE’RE LOOKING AT CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA RIGHT NOW SO YOU CAN WITNESS IT YOURSELF AND WE TALKED TO MARY BETH ALBRIGHT EARLIER IN PHILADELPHIA CHRONICLES IN, LET’S GO BACK TO YOU ON JUST FOR PEOPLE IN WASHINGTON WHO HAVE HOPES TO GET THINGS DONE. WE ARE NOT JUST WATCHING TO SEE WHO ULTIMATELY WINS THE PRESIDENCY WE ARE ALSO WATCHING FOR POWER IN THE SENATE >> YEAH, I’M TRYING TO LOOK AT OUR MONITOR IN THE LIVES OUT OF THAT COUNTING ROOM. COULD REMIND YOU FIRST OF ALL THAT WE ARE DOING THIS IN THE CORONAVIRUS AND A GLOBAL PANDEMIC. SEE THE VOLUNTEERS THERE WITH THEIR MASK ON AND THAT LIKELY BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN A PANDEMIC IN THESE VOTING VOLUNTEERS HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH AND HEALTH GUIDELINES EARLY VOTING AS WELL AS DAY OF VOTING AND CUMULATIVELY IS JUST A LOT OF VOTES TO COUNSEL THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY THIS IS TAKING SO LONG THAT IS ONE OF THE THINGS IT BOILS DOWN TO SOME THESE STATES WANT TO BE THE 2000 FORD WITH THE HANGING CHAD THEY DON’T WANT TO BE EMBARRASSED. THEY CERTAINLY DON’T WANT ANY DEDICATION THAT REALLY IS THE BIG PICTURE OF WHY THIS IS TAKING SO LONG. CHOICE, WHAT IS THE LATEST IN DELAWARE? >> WE HAVE BEEN TALKING WITH JOE BIDEN WOULD BE ADDRESSING THE NATION IN SPEAKING AND THAT SORT OF FLUCTUATED THROUGHOUT THE DAY I’M JOINED BY OUR COLLEAGUE AS A POLITICAL REPORTER AND IN THE EXPANDED POOL FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN SO LET’S COMPARE NOTES HERE. I WAS HEARING FROM SOME SOURCES THAT THEY WERE TOLD BY LOCAL, SORT OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY IN DELAWARE TO COME ON DOWN TO THE CENTER FOR A POTENTIAL EVENT. WHAT ARE YOU HEARING? >> WE ARE HIDDEN BEHIND HIM REALLY WANT TO BRING THEM OUT TONIGHT FOR SOME KIND OF ADDRESS TO THE COUNTRY IT’S NOT CLEAR IS THAT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE AN ACTUAL VICTORY SPEECH OR ANOTHER SPEECH THAT IS KIND OF SIMILAR TO WHAT WE HEARD HIM SAY OVER THE PAST FEW DAYS THEY FEEL REALLY CONFIDENT, BUT, THINGS ARE NOT GOING AS QUICKLY AS THEY WANT. I WILL SAY, AND THERE’S BEEN A LOT OF CHATTER ABOUT THIS, BIDEN AND HIS CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN NOTORIOUS FOR BEING INEXPLICABLY LATE TO MANY, MANY EVENTS, SO, THERE’S A LITTLE DISCUSSION ABOUT HOW THIS IS A LITTLE BIT OF KARMA FOR JOE BIDEN WHO’S GOT A LOT OF PEOPLE WAITING IN HIS CAREER AND NOW HE HAS TO WAIT >> THERE IS SOME IRONY THERE. WE KNOW THAT YOU ARE ACTUALLY SAYING EARLIER TODAY THAT THEY WERE WAITING FOR THE CAMPAIGN FROM THE NETWORKS FOR MAKING THE DECISION TO COME OUT AND SPEAK TO LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT THEY’VE SEEN I KNOW THAT EVERYONE IS STAYING IN THE

CAMPAIGN AND JOURNALIST AS WELL, STAYING AT THAT LOBBY IS VERY ACTIVE. BUT IF WE SEEN FROM THE NETWORKS AND WHY, YOU KNOW, WHAT SORT OF THE HOLDUP THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS HUNG UP ON RIGHT NOW? >> ESPECIALLY SORT OF PSYCHOLOGICALLY, BIDEN COMING FROM, YOU KNOW, HIS NATIVE PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA FLIPPED AROUND AROUND 845 AND THEY SAID THAT WAS LIKE A REALLY BIG MOMENT FOR THE CAMPAIGN THEY HAVE BEEN EXPRESSING CONFIDENCE. THEIR ANALYTICS TOLD THEM THEY WERE GOING TO GET THERE. BUT WHEN THAT HAPPENED AND THEY ACTUALLY SAW WHAT NUMBER FLIP OVER AND THEY SAW THEMSELVES IN THE LEAD, THAT’S WHEN THEY ALREADY SIDE, LIKE A BIG SIGH OF RELIEF THEY WERE TEXTING EACH OTHER, THE SIGNAL CHAINS WERE GOING CRAZY. THEY SAID THE SIGNAL CHAINS LIT UP, SORT OF REALLY EXCITED THAT WHAT THEY HAD WORKED FOR SO LONG FOR WAS REALLY ON THE CUSP OF HAPPENING AND THEY WERE EXPECTING PRETTY QUICKLY TO HAVE PENNSYLVANIA OFFICIALLY CALLED AND THAT WOULD ALLOW HIM TO GO OUT AND GIVE THE SPEECH THAT HE WANTS TO GIVE TONIGHT, THAT VICTORY SPEECH BUT WE HAVE BEEN WAITING AND THOSE VOTES ARE COMING IN A LITTLE MORE SLOWLY THAN I THINK BIDEN’S CAMPAIGN HAD HOPED AND THE NETWORKS HAVE NOT CALLED IT SO WE ARE NOW IN A LITTLE BIT OF A WAITING GAME WITH THE NETWORKS. IN REVERSING THOSE ELECTION PRODUCTION BRIEFINGS THAT THEY WERE CALLING AND THEY WERE HAVING THOSE DAILY BASICALLY AFTER THE ELECTION. IN THOSE MEETINGS, THEY WERE PROJECTING THAT THEY WOULD WIN IN MICHIGAN, WISCONSIN AND, YOU KNOW, THE FOLLOWING DAY OF, NEVADA, ARIZONA, PENNSYLVANIA. FIRST OF ALL, IS THAT ANY DIFFERENT? HAS BEEN MOOD CHANGED AT ALL? I’M CURIOUS WHAT EMOTIONALLY HAS DEVELOPED IN THE CAMPAIGN >> YEAH, I THINK IT HAS. I WANT TO STRESS THAT THEY ALWAYS THOUGHT THEY HAD THIS. THEY WERE ALWAYS VERY CONFIDENT THAT THEY WERE GOING TO BE THE WINNERS THAT WAS NOT JUST SPIN COMING FROM THE CAMPAIGN BUT THERE IS SOMETHING INTERESTING PSYCHOLOGICALLY WHEN THERE IS A VENT THAT YOU KNOW IS GOING TO HAPPEN VERSUS WHEN IT ACTUALLY DOES HAPPEN AND IT REALLY, YOU KNOW, FOR A LOT OF THE STAFFERS TODAY WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS CAMPAIGN AND THIS IS A CAMPAIGN THAT WAS COUNTED ON A LOT OF TIMES. THEY WERE COUNTED OUT DURING THE PRIMARY, THE BIG DONORS SORT OF SNUBBED JOE BIDEN AS BIG AS THAT OF AN OLD HAS BEEN. THEY WENT WITH A LOT OF THE YOUNGER, FRESHER FACES HERE HE CAME IN FOURTH IN IOWA, HE CAME IN FIFTH IN NEW HAMPSHIRE. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS DEAD AND THEN, YOU KNOW, SOUTH CAROLINA REVIVED HIM BUT WHEN HE DID CLINCH THE PRIMARY AND CLINCH THE NOMINATION, HE STILL HAD THEM SAY SAYING HE SHOULD BE OUT MORE. THE CAMPAIGN STRATEGY WAS OFF. CAME AND SECOND-GUESSED ALL ALONG, SO, IT IS JUST THIS MORNING WAS A MOMENT FOR THEM TO JUST TAKE A DEEP BREATH AND SAY, HOLY COW, WE ACTUALLY DID IT. WE ARE ABOUT TO HAVE THIS CHAMPAGNE CORK POPPING MOMENT BUT NOW IT IS JUST SORT OF LIKE THE CHAMPAGNE IS STILL ON ICE. THEY HAVE NOT QUITE BEEN ABLE TO OPEN IT BECAUSE THEY WANT THIS TO BE A VERY DEFINITIVE MOMENT THAT THEY ARE SHOWING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE THIS IS THE POLITICAL LEADERSHIP SINCE TRUMP IS NOT GOING TO CONCEDE >> FORTUNATELY FOR THE CAMPAIGN IT SEEMS LIKE EVERY TIME THEY GET THERE ON ELECTION NIGHT IS WAS VERY ANTI-CHROMATIC HERE TODAY, THEY WERE EXCITED AND ENDED UP BEING SORT OF AN ANTI-CLIMATIC DAY. WE WILL SEE WHAT ENDS UP HAPPENING BUT THAT IS A LOT OF EMOTIONAL ROLLER COASTER TO GO THROUGH. WHAT WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD ABOUT SORT OF THEIR PLAN GOING FORWARD IF THEY NEED TO BE FOCUSED ON THAT MESSAGING TO MAKE IT, YOU KNOW, WHAT OTHER STRATEGIES STRATEGIES TO MAKE IT SO THAT THE REPUBLICANS CAN BE PLUCKING HOLES IN THE APPARATUS OF A TRANSITION IS STARTING TO SORT OF GEAR UP. I MEAN, YOU HAVE, YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE THE SECRET SERVICE HAVE SENT IN REINFORCEMENTS TO PROTECT BIDEN AND

HIS FAMILY THE APPARATUS OF GOVERNMENT IS BEGINNING TO TREAT HIM THIS WAY HE DOESN’T WANT TO GIVE TWO VICTORY SPEECH IS >> LEAH PUT UP THE MONITORS, THEY BROUGHT ON THE MONITORS, THEY ARE BACK ID RIGHT NOW >> I THINK THIS HAS BEEN MORE OF AN UNEXPECTED BLOW FOR THEM TO CATCH THAT A LITTLE IT I WILL SET SAY THAT LIKE ON WEDNESDAY MORNING THEY HAVE THIS SORT OF SENSE OF LIKE A LITTLE BIT OF ANXIETY THAT IS GONE NOW. AND IT IS NOT A CAMPAIGN THAT IS WORRIED ABOUT THE OPTICS. CLEAR WORRIED ABOUT MAKING SURE THE MESSAGING IS RIGHT AND THOSE ARE BIG THINGS TO WORRY ABOUT BUT IT IS A DIFFERENT SORT OF BALLGAME AND WORRYING ABOUT THE OUTCOME WHICH IS SOMETHING THEY FEEL VERY, VERY, VERY CONFIDENT ABOUT >> I WAS TALKING TO A REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST EARLIER TODAY AND ASKING WHAT WILL BE THE GOP RESPONSE WHEN BIDEN DOES GIVE US VICTORY SPEECH. NO, WILL IT HAVE THE SAME WAY? LET’S STICK IT. IS CRAZY WE ARE EVEN ASKING THAT QUESTION BUT IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THE CAMPAIGN IS PREPARING FOR? IF, YOU KNOW, WE’VE SEEN PRESIDENT TRUMP’S RHETORIC AROUND THIS SAYING THERE ARE ILLEGAL VOTES AND CORRUPTION WHICH IS ALL UNFOUNDED AS SORT OF THIS MASS CORRUPTION THAT HE REFERENCES. WHAT KIND OF CAMPAIGN CAN THEY DO TO COMBAT THAT. EVEN IF THEY GIVE THE CAMPAIGN SPEECH KNOWS WHAT MESSAGING COULD COME FROM THE OPPOSING PARTY >> I THINK ONE THING A LOT OF ALLIES OF BIDEN ARE POINTING TO OUR COMMENTS BY REPUBLICANS WHO ARE SPLITTING A LITTLE BIT WITH DONALD TRUMP AND SAYING, WELL, YOU KNOW, EVERY VOTE SHOULD COUNT AND, YOU KNOW, WE DON’T REALLY SEE THE WIDESPREAD THERE WILL BE A SORT OF LOOK FOR THE REPUBLICANS TO STAND UP AND SAY YES THIS IS THE NEXT LEADER OF THE COUNTRY AND WE MIGHT NOT LIKE HIS POLICIES, WE MIGHT ALL I CAN BUT THIS IS THE WAY THE COUNTRY WORKS >> I MEAN IT WAS PROBABLY SET IN, HOPEFULLY THAT WON’T END UP BEING THE CASE BUT THERE IS THAT ASPECT OF IT TO MY THAT THEY AREN’T AFRAID TO SORT OF BE AS BULLISH AS THE CAMPAIGN >> YEAH, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALSO SORT OF THEY ARE SORT OF AT THE VERY END OF THE A BETTER WORD, SO, YOU KNOW, I DON’T THINK THAT THAT IS

BIDEN COULD BE SPEAKING. IT IS LIKELY, BUT, YOU DON’T THINK THAT IT WILL BE VICTORY SPEECH OR AT LEAST THAT’S NOT WHAT YOU ARE HEARING? >> I THINK THIS POINT WE CAN BE FAIRLY CONFIDENT. REPORTING SHOWS THAT AS WELL YOU KNOW, THEY ARE TELLING PEOPLE TO COME DOWN HERE FOR A REASON. SO I THINK WE CAN BE FAIRLY CONFIDENT WE HAVE AND SEE JOE BIDEN TONIGHT. IS A VICTORY SPEECH OR NOT WE JUST DON’T KNOW AND THAT’S WHAT THEY WANT TO DO IF THERE’S A WAY FOR THEM TO DO AND IF THEY HAVE TO WAIT A LITTLE LONGER IF IT IS 11:30 INSTEAD OF 11:00 AND WE WILL DO IT BUT THAT IS JUST THE PIECE THAT IS STILL UP IN THE AIR IT COULD BE A PIVOT AND UPDATE TO THE TIMES HE IS THE KWANG THAT HE’S DIRECTOR BUT HE EXPECTS TO BE AND HE WANTS TO REALLY MAKE SURE THAT IS CLEAR TO HIS SUPPORTERS EXPECTS TO BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. JUST BE PATIENT AND WAIT FOR THIS PROCESS AND WE WILL HAVE A BIG PARTY. SO, YOU KNOW, MAYBE NOT MAYBE THAT IS A FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY, MAYBE THAT IS A SATURDAY NIGHT PARTY, AT LEAST THAT IS WHERE THEY ARE COMING FROM >> OR MAYBE WE WILL BE HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT FOREVER. THANK YOU SO MUCH I WILL SEND THINGS BACK TO YOU IN THE STUDIO >> I REALLY APPRECIATE BOTH OF YOU STANDING BY. LET’S GO TO DAVE WEIGLE. OKAY, WHAT IS YOUR FRIDAY NIGHT PARTY LOOKING LIKE HERE, MY FRIEND? WHAT IS ON YOUR RADAR? WHAT ARE YOU SORT OF LOOKING AT IN TERMS OF STATES TO WATCH AND THALES TO COME IN OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS? >> I THINK YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN LOOKING PRETTY WELL IT. EVERYTHING IN ALLEGHENY THAT WAS DISPLAYED TODAY THE MARGIN THAT THEY NEED TO OVERTURN AN ARIZONA IS THE ONE THEY RETURNED IN PENNSYLVANIA THEY KEEP HOPING THAT THE NUMBER OF BALLOTS THAT ARE GOING TO COME IN ARIZONA WOULD DO IT AND BECAUSE THEY ARE BREAKING FOR TRUMP AT A GREATER RATE THAN ELECTION DAY, BUT SHE LOST, BUT, DEMOCRATS MAY BE WILLING TO VOTE ON ELECTION DAY WHICH IS MORE EVEN THAN SOME OF THE OTHER ABSENTEE BATCHES I GUESS THE LAST UNCERTAINTY I HAVE IN THE NEXT HOUR AND CHANGE THIS IS THE VERY PART OF PERIODS OVER LESLIE YOUR ARIZONA WOULD BE OUTSIDE THE RANGE, DEPENDING ON WHAT IT IS TONIGHT BUT THE KIND OF LEGAL STRATEGY TRYING TO OVERTURN FOUR OR FIVE ELECTION THAT ONCE >> SO DAVE, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ARE UNDERSTANDABLY ANXIOUS TO GET RESULTS HERE WHAT IS THE PROCESS OF WHAT WE ARE GOING TO? CLEARLY THE PEOPLE IN THESE ROOMS KNOW WHAT COULD HAPPEN AND

IT JUST, EACH DAY, THE CHANCE OF SOMETHING BEING WRONG DECREASES BY A FEW POINTS. SOUGHT, THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN DOES NOT THINK ANYTHING CAN GO WRONG, BUT EACH DAY THESE NETWORKS ARE CAREFUL, THEY ARE MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES, THERE ARE MORE RUMORS, PROTESTS IT. THE PROTESTS ARE NOT EXACTLY MUSHROOMING BUT I SEE THIS STUFF TO. THE REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE CHAIR HAS BASICALLY ENDORSED THE IDEA MICHIGAN IS BASED ON THE COUNTY THAT IS REPORTED IN EARLY AND FIXED IT. ECM FUNDRAISING LETTERS AGAIN WAS FAKE STUFF THAT IS HAPPENED IN THE STATES SEE THE QUESTIONS IN GEORGIA THEY HAVE THE LOWER, EVEN LOWER EVIDENTIARY STANDARD RUMORS WHICH ARE SPREADING EVERYWHERE WOULDN’T SEE IN MARICOPA FOR EXAMPLE A PLACE WITH A LOT OF REPUBLICANS, THE CROWD IS IF THERE WAS A CALL, IF THERE WAS FINALITY, THAT WOULD ENTER A DIFFERENT STAGE. WE’VE BEEN STUCK IN THIS STAGE GETTING CLOSER TO A CONCLUSION BUT ALSO GETTING WORSE IN TERMS OF POLITICAL UNREST FOR THREE DAYS NOW >> THANKS, JAMES, LET’S JUST BRING YOU INTO THIS CONVERSATION AND ANY REFLECTIONS YOU WANT TO MAKE ABOUT WHAT WE HEARD OUT OF DELAWARE AND OUR TEAM REPORTING FROM THERE >> YEAH, I THINK THE POINT THAT BIDEN DOESN’T WANT TO GIVE TWO VICTORY SPEECHES THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE’S NOT GOING TO SPEAK IT. HE STILL COULD, YOU KNOW, GET A MESSAGE URGING PEOPLE TO BE PATIENT FOR THE REASONS THAT DAVE JUST OUTLINED AND THAT IS A CONCERN. NO OPTICS, THE CAMPAIGN IS NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THAT. THEY ARE CONCERNED ABOUT OPTICS AND EVERY DAY THE STRIKE OUTCOME OF THE DATA IS ANOTHER INTERNET RUMOR THAT THEY HAVE TO FIRE BACK AT EVERY DAY THIS GOES ON IS A DAY THAT THEY KIND OF AREN’T DOING THE TRANSITIONS OR WHAT THEY WANT TO ROLLOUT. YOU KNOW, THEY ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THEY WANT TO TALK ABOUT AND SO, I THINK THERE IS SOME SENSITIVITY TO THAT BUT THEY DON’T WANT TO BE IN A POSITION OF DOING WHAT THEY KEEP CRITICIZING TRUMP FOR WHICH IS PREMATURELY DECLARING VICTORY >> LET’S GET BACK TO OUR ELECTION INSIGHTS TEAM AND JEREMY DOLLARS. SINCE WE HAVE BEEN ON AIR, THINGS HAVE CHANGED SO BRING US UP TO SPEED >> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY. CLUB START IN PENNSYLVANIA BECAUSE THAT’S WHERE WE GOT THE MOST INTERESTING NEWS. HOME TO THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH. ABOUT 5000 OF THOSE BALLOTS WERE OUTSTANDING AND THOSE BROKE ABOUT -14 FORMER VICE PRESIDENT, JOE BIDEN. THAT PUTS HIS LEAD IN THE STATE RIGHT UNDER 20,000 VOTES AT THE MOMENT. IT IS STILL VERY CLOSE AND WE’RE STILL EXPECTING ADDITIONAL VOTES TO COME OUT OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA TONIGHT IT. SOMEWHERE AROUND 9:00 PM WE’VE BEEN TOLD SO WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE PRETTY CLOSELY AS THEY WILL LIKELY BE RELATIVELY DEMOCRATIC. IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, THINGS ARE A LOT TIGHTER THAN THEY ARE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND THE LAST ROUND OF BOTH ACTUALLY STRONGER FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP HERE THAN PREVIOUSLY HAVE BEEN. JOE BIDEN’S LEAD IN THE STATE IS DOWN UNDER 4000 VOTES AND SO AGAIN, I NEED TO JUST ABSOLUTELY SAY THIS. GEORGIA IS UNDER THE GUN BECAUSE THEY NEED TO GET THESE BALLOTS COUNTED RELATIVELY SOON. THEY WILL HAVE POSSIBLY TWO SENATE RUNOFF ELECTIONS IT IS JUST THE PLACES WE ARE WATCHING WITH HAWKEYE WITH HOW

FAR WILL BE ABLE TO GET VOTES IN NEVADA WE HAD A HANDFUL OF NEW BOATS DROP BUT NOT AS MANY AS WE WERE EXPECTING AND IT’S POSSIBLE THEY ARE PUTTING A LID ON COUNTING FOR THE EVENING AND WE MAY NOT SEE ANYTHING NEW UNTIL TOMORROW. WE SAW SOME INTERESTING NEW BOATS IN CARSON CITY, THE INDEPENDENT CITY, A HANDFUL OF VOTES THAT APPEAR TO FAVOR PRESIDENT TRUMP BUT JOE BIDEN STILL HAS A STRONG LEAD OF 22,000 AND IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE HE WILL RELINQUISH THE LEAD ANYTIME SOON ESPECIALLY WITH KNOWING THAT WE HAVE MORE BALLOTS IN HEAVILY LEANING CLARK COUNTY AND IN WASHOE COUNTY AS WELL AND THAT’S WHAT I’VE GOT AND I MIGHT ADD ONE LESS THING, WE HAVE GOTTEN ABOUT 1000 BALLOTS IN THE STATE OF NORTH CAROLINA WHICH IS A BIG WIN FOR US BECAUSE IT HAS BEEN 20 HOURS SINCE WE GOT AN UPDATE AND THE PRESIDENT HOLDING A SLIM LEAD WE THINK IS LIKELY TO HOLD THAT ONE THROUGH THE END OF THE RACE BUT THAT’S WHAT WE’VE GOT FOR YOU >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET’S TALK ABOUT THE NEXT 24 HOURS AND WE TALKED ABOUT THE BITING CAMPAIGN AND WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING OUT OF WILMINGTON. WHAT ARE WE WATCHING FOR FROM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN? >> WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANY CONFIRMED REPORTS THAT HE WILL BE GIVING ANY SORT OF PUBLIC STATEMENT TODAY OR EVEN TOMORROW. WE JUST DO NOT KNOW AND WE DO NOT HAVE AN INDICATION OF WHAT HIS TEAM WANTS TO DO PUBLICLY RIGHT NOW. HE MOST RECENTLY HAS BEEN ON TWITTER PUTTING OUT QUESTIONS ABOUT THE MAIL IN BALLOTS FOR THE MILITARY IN GEORGIA BUT THOSE SEEM TO BE UNSUBSTANTIATED AND THREATS ABOUT THE POTENTIAL IMPROPRIETY AND WE DON’T KNOW IF ANYTHING HAS HAPPENED AT ALL BUT THAT IS ALL THAT WE ARE GETTING SORT OF THE WINDOW IN THE TRUMP WORLD RIGHT NOW AND WE ARE HEARING A LITTLE BIT MORE THROUGH THE LAST 24 HOURS , A LITTLE BIT MORE FROM SENATE REPUBLICANS, HOUSE REPUBLICANS AND HOW THEY DEEM HIS COMMENTS YESTERDAY AND THE MISINFORMATION THAT HE PUT OUT THERE IN HIS COMMENTS AND TALKING ABOUT DIFFERENT MAIL-IN BALLOT FRAUD AND DIFFERENT CORRUPTION HAPPENING AND IN THE STATES WHERE WE ARE WAITING COUNTS AND THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN COMING OUT AS FALSE FROM WHAT WE HAVE BEEN HEARING FROM ELECTION OFFICIALS IN THOSE STATES. WE DO NOT KNOW THE NEXT MOVE FROM THE TRUMP SIDE. WE HAVE CLEARLY SEEN FROM THE RUN DOWN FROM THE REPORTERS THERE IN WILMINGTON WITH THE BIDEN CAMP IS THINKING AND THE MONITOR IS SET UP AND FROM THE POLE REPORT IT SAYS THE BALLOONS ARE UP AND IT SEEMS LIKE PARTY BUT NO PARTY YET UNTIL WE HAVE CONFIRMED VOTE COUNTS >> JAMES, LET’S GO TO YOU WITH THE BREAKING NEWS INVOLVING THE U.S SUPREME COURT AND THE VOTE COUNT IN PENNSYLVANIA. JUSTICE ALITO GOT THE PETITION BECAUSE HE IS THE JUSTICE RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS REGION OF THE COUNTRY AND HE HAS — I MAKE AND TRY FRAZIER CORRECTLY. HE HAS SAID THAT INDEED THE SEGREGATED BALLOTS THAT HAVE BEEN KEPT ASIDE, THESE ARE BALLOTS DELIVERED ASKED HER ELECTION DAY BY MAIL AND THEY STILL HAVE TO BE KEPT ASIDE BUT THIS IS NOT A DECISIVE BLOW AGAINST WHAT THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO SEE HAPPEN AND REPUBLICANS HAVE GONE TO THE SUPREME COURT TO TRY TO GET THOSE BALLOTS ESSENTIALLY NULLIFIED OR NOT COUNTED >> IT IS A STATUS QUOTE DECISION AND ALITO WHO HAS CITED WITH THE CONSERVATIVES ON THE COURT AND HE IS NOT GIVING THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WHAT IT IS ASKING FOR AND THAT IS A WIN FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN BECAUSE HE DID GRANT A HALT TO THE COUNT AND THAT WOULD EXTEND THE PROCESS FOR A WHILE POTENTIALLY. INSTEAD, IT RETAINS OPTIONS AND IT MEANS THAT WHAT IS CURRENTLY HAPPENING IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO HAPPEN. THE BALLOTS RECEIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY WILL BE SET ASIDE IT COULD BECOME VERY CONSEQUENTIAL. IT COULD GET TO THE POINT AND FRANKLY THIS IS WHAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS COUNTING ON THAT A FRIENDLY REPUBLICAN CONTROLLED SUPREME COURT WHICH IS WHAT IT IS WOULD SAY DOWN THE ROAD , WE HAVE TO THROW ALL THOSE BALLOTS OUT THAT ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY UNDER THE LETTER OF THE LAW AND THE READING OF THE STATUTE. AND THAT COULD BE A BLOW TO BIDEN BECAUSE BIDEN HAS

BEEN GETTING A STRONG ADVANTAGE ON THE MAIL IN BALLOTS >> THESE ARE MAIL IN BALLOTS THAT ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY AND SO WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT ALL OF THESE MAIL IN OR EARLY BALLOTS THAT ARRIVED BY ELECTION DAY AND WERE SET ASIDE COUNTING COULD NOT START ON THOSE UNTIL ELECTION DAY AND THAT IS BY PENNSYLVANIA STATE LAW AS MANDATED BY THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA SO THAT IS A HUGE POOL OF BOATS AND A LOT OF PEOPLE TOOK ADVANTAGE OF THE OPPORTUNITY TO NOT VOTE IN PERSON ON ELECTION DAY SO WHAT WE’RE TALKING ABOUT IS A SMALL SUBSET OF THAT AND THAT MAIL IN BALLOTS THAT HAVE ARRIVED AFTERWARDS AND AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE SECRETARY OF STATE IN PENNSYLVANIA AND OTHER ELECTION OFFICIALS , THEY HAVE BEEN SECOND SETTING THEM ASIDE AND SEGREGATING THEM BECAUSE OF THE ONGOING LEGAL ISSUES >> ABSOLUTELY IT IS NOT A WIN FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND THIS IS NOT — THERE IS NO CONVERSATION ABOUT THROWING OUT ALL THE MAIL IN BALLOTS IT’S ABOUT THROWING OUT SOME OF THE BALLOTS THAT ARRIVE POTENTIALLY AND TO BE CLEAR ALITO IS NOT DOING IT THEY ARE JUST PRESERVING IT AND THEY ARE KICKING IT TO THE LOWER COURTS TO HEAR OUT AND HASH OUT THE LITIGATION AND TO ULTIMATELY DEMOCRATS FEEL CONFIDENT BUT THIS IS THE KIND OF THING WHERE IF IT IS A CLOSE RACE AND A COUPLE THOUSAND VOTES THEN THAT COULD END UP BEING HUGELY CONSEQUENTIAL TO THE OUTCOME AND WHEN YOU TALK TO ELECTION LAWYERS AND POLITICAL STRATEGISTS ABOUT THE LITIGATION THAT IS MOST LIKELY TO END UP BEFORE THE FULL NINE JUSTICES, THIS ISSUE OF COUNTING MAIL IN BALLOTS THAT ARRIVE AFTER ELECTION DAY IS HIGH ON THE LIST ESPECIALLY IF THE ELECTION ENDS UP COMING DOWN TO PENNSYLVANIA WHICH IF FOR SOME REASON BIDEN WON PENNSYLVANIA BUT DID NOT WIN ARIZONA, NEVADA, GEORGIA OR NORTH CAROLINA THAN THAT COULD POTENTIALLY , THE WORST-CASE SCENARIO FOR THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN DECIDE THE ELECTION THE WAY THE SUPREME COURT DID IT IN BUSH V GORE IN FLORIDA >> THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CHALLENGES THAT THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS WAGING ACROSS THE COUNTRY, LEGAL CHALLENGES BUT NOT A LOT OF IT IS STICKING >> THE LEGAL CHALLENGES THEMSELVES VERSUS THE ARGUMENTS MADE BY DEFENDERS ANY STORY OF A POTENTIAL FRAUD EVEN IF THE COURT THROWS IT OUT, IT GETS OUT THERE AND GETS IN THE ETHER AND AN OPTION THAT HAS NOT BEEN ROLLED OUT BY REPUBLICANS NORMALLY BECAUSE YOU DON’T EVEN ASK IF ARE GOING TO RULE IT OUT IS IF YOU DECIDE THAT IF THE ELECTION IS SO UNCERTAIN THAT THE COUNT WAS SO CLOSE IN PENNSYLVANIA OR ANOTHER STATE WHERE REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE LEGISLATURE AND THE ONES ON CALL THAT IS PENNSYLVANIA, NORTH CAROLINA AND ARIZONA AND DO YOU APPEAL TO THE STATE LEGISLATORS TO APPOINT THEIR OWN ELECTORS SO I’VE MENTIONED THAT NOT BECAUSE IT’S LIKELY TO HAPPEN BECAUSE ONE WAY OUT OF THIS IS IF THE PRESIDENT ARGUES THERE IS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY THAT THERE SHOULD BE ANOTHER METHOD TO IT EVEN AS FRUSTRATION BOILS , SOME OF THE PRESIDENT’S SUPPORTERS LIKE HERSCHEL WALKER THE FORMER FOOTBALL PLAYER SAYING, WE SHOULD JUST HAVE AN ELECTION BECAUSE IT’S CONFUSING AND SEAN HANNITY SAID THAT LAST NIGHT AND IF YOU THINK THAT IS RIGHT THEN YOU CANNOT HAVE A REDO ELECTION ON THIS TIMELINE AND THERE IS NO NEED TO AND IT WOULD LOOK WEIRD TO ONLY DO IT AND STATES ABIDING MISLEADING BUT THAT TRUMP WANTED TO WIN THE MOOD IS MORE — SOMETHING YOU SHOULD BE FAMILIAR WITH IF YOU’RE AN AMERICAN WHO HAS WATCHED DONALD TRUMP OR ANY POINT OF TIME AND JUST THROWING A LOT OF STUFF OUT THERE IN SEEING WHAT STICKS THAT IS SOME OF THE FRUSTRATION THAT DEMOCRATS HAVE AND NOT THAT THEY THINK THEY WILL LOSE, THEY’VE GOT THE SIZE LEADS THAT THEY ARE CONFIDENT WILL SHOW UP BUT EVERY HOUR IN EVERY DAY DOES THE RISK INCREASE THAT TRUMP DOES SOMETHING? >> IF YOU HAVE BEEN WATCHING WHAT’S BEEN GOING ON IN PENNSYLVANIA THERE HAVE BEEN MULTIPLE LEGAL CHALLENGES SO IT IS LIKE A GROUNDHOG DAY EFFECT THAT THE QUESTION IS WOULD SOMETHING BE CHANGING THE SUBSTANCE THAT COULD CHANGE HOW THE SUPREME COURT MIGHT VIEW THE SITUATION THERE? >> THERE IS A COUPLE THINGS GOING ON AND OPTICS IS A BIG PART OF THIS. THE PENNSYLVANIA SECRETARY OF STATE I JUST READ THROUGH THE ACTUAL ORDER AND THE SECRETARY OF STATE SAID IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT THIS NUMBER THAT WE ARE TALKING ABOUT IS A

COUPLE THOUSAND. IF BIDEN IS UP 20,000 THEN THAT IS SORT OF A MUTE POINT. THE NIGHTMARE SCENARIO FOR THE BIDEN FOLKS IS THAT THERE ARE SO MANY LAWSUITS AND REPUBLICANS ARE ABLE TO SUCCESSFULLY PUT THIS CLOUD OVER THE WHOLE PROCESS AND MAKE LOTS OF INNUENDO AND USE HEARSAY AND THEN THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATURE WOULD TRY TO PASS THEIR OWN SLATE OF ELECTORS TO SEND TO WASHINGTON ON THE DAY THAT THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE MEETS AND SO YOU WOULD HAVE THE ELECTORS WHO WERE VOTED ON BY THE PEOPLE AND CERTIFIED AS THE WINNERS WHICH WOULD SUPPORT BIDEN AND ANOTHER SIDE OF 20 ELECTORS WHO WOULD SUPPORT TRUMP AND IN THE INSTANCE THAT THAT COULD DECIDE THE ELECTION THEN THAT WOULD OBVIOUSLY BE MAYHEM IN A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS. AND A PUSH IT TO THE HOUSE AND WHATEVER. SO THAT IS WHAT TERRIFIES THE BIDEN PEOPLE THERE IS NO BASIS FOR DOING THAT BUT YOU ARE HEARING PEOPLE LIKE DONALD TRUMP JR, THE PRESIDENT’S ELDEST SON AND MARK LEVINE AND OTHER CONSERVATIVES SORT OF PUSH THIS IDEA EVEN ON THE SEAN HANNITY SHOW LAST NIGHT ON FOX, TED CRUZ AND LINDSEY GRAHAM THE REPUBLICAN SENATORS ON THE SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE SAID THAT IT SHOULD BE ON THE TABLE YOU SHOULD NOT RULE IT OUT. TED CRUZ SAID YOU SHOULD NOT RULE OUT HAVING ANOTHER ELECTION ALTOGETHER IN PENNSYLVANIA A DO OVER. THE OPTICS POINT IS IF THE REPUBLICANS WERE ABLE TO CAST ENOUGH DISPERSIONS ON THE ENTIRE PROCESS THAT PEOPLE FEEL LIKE SOMETHING WAS TAINTED ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA THEN THAT MIGHT BE WHERE REPUBLICANS TAKE THIS AND TO BE CLEAR THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF ANYTHING TAINTED AT ALL THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF WIDESPREAD FRAUD AND IN THE PRESS CONFERENCE FROM THE PENNSYLVANIA SECRETARY THE COMMONWEALTH YESTERDAY A REPORTER ASKED ABOUT FRAUD AND SHE SAID THERE WAS ONE GUY A FEW MONTHS BACK WHO TRY TO REQUEST A BALLOT FOR HIS DEAD MOTHER BUT WE CAUGHT HIM AND HE WAS PROSECUTED. AND THAT’S AN ILLUSTRATION OF HOW THERE IS NOT WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD. THERE IS NO EVIDENCE OF THAT. AND WE CANNOT SAY THAT ENOUGH BUT YOU ARE GOING TO SEE PEOPLE LIKE DONALD TRUMP JR SAY, WE SHOULD JUST THROW IT ALL OUT AND THAT IS WHERE IT IS GOING TO BE AN POTENTIALLY SIGNIFICANT FOR MODERATE MEMBERS , REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE LEGISLATURE TO SPEAK UP AND SAY, WE ARE NOT GOING TO GO ALONG WITH THIS >> IS A GREAT POINT. RHONDA, TO YOU BRIEFLY, WE WILL BE WATCHING TO SEE HOW REPUBLICANS IN THE PENNSYLVANIA STATE LEGISLATURE RESPOND TO THIS AND WE ARE ALSO WATCHING TO SEE HOW NATIONAL PROFILE REPUBLICANS ACT IN THIS MOMENT >> RIGHT. WE ARE SEEING SOME OF PRESIDENT TRUMP’S ALLIES REALLY COME OUT FOR HIM. MATT GAETZ JUST TWEETED THAT HE AND REPRESENTATIVE JIM JORDAN PLAN TO BE ON SEAN HANNITY AND DOUBLE DOWN ON THE PERCEIVED CLAIMS THAT THE PRESIDENT IS MAKING OF ELECTION MISCONDUCT AND OF COURSE, WE CANNOT SAY ENOUGH THAT THERE HAVE NOT BEEN ANY EVIDENCE OF ANY SORT OF WIDESPREAD VOTER FRAUD BUT ONE THING THAT I’M THINKING ABOUT AS WE CONTINUE TO HEAR FROM THE ELECTION OFFICIALS FROM ALL OF THE STATES, SECRETARIES OF STATES WHO ARE SAYING THERE IS NO VOTER FRAUD AND PROBABLY THE PUBLIC SENTIMENT THAT WANTS TO MOVE PAST THIS ELECTION AS SOON AS POSSIBLE AND IT IS GOING TO DROWN OUT THE REPUBLICANS WERE REALLY DOUBLING DOWN AND YOU HAVE HAD THE ALLIES DOUBLE DOWN BUT ALSO REPUBLICANS LIKE MARCO RUBIO SORT OF NOT EXACTLY SAY THAT THE PRESIDENT IS WRONG BUT THEY ARE GIVING THEMSELVES A LITTLE BIT OF A BACK DOOR AND TRYING TO SAY THESE CLAIMS THAT HE IS MAKING ARE TROUBLESOME AND THERE WAS A TWEET THAT MARCO RUBIO MADE EARLIER TODAY WHERE HE SAID A CANDIDATE BELIEVES — IT’S OKAY FOR CANDIDATE BELIEVES THE STATE IS VIOLATING ELECTION LAWS AND THEY HAVE A RIGHT TO CHALLENGE IT IN COURT AND PRODUCE EVIDENCE IN SUPPORT OF THEIR CLAIMS. HE IS SAYING BASICALLY IF THE PRESIDENT CANNOT PRODUCE THE EVIDENCE THEN YOU CANNOT BE MAKING THE CLAIMS AND MARCO RUBIO IS SAYING THIS IS SOMEONE WHO IN A POST-TRUMP WORLD POTENTIALLY IF THERE IS A PRESENT BIDEN, MARCO RUBIO IS LOOKED AT AS SOMEBODY WHO MIGHT BE ABLE TO CARRY THE TORCH FOR WHATEVER ITERATION OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY THAT DEVELOPS AFTER A POST-TRUMP WORLD. WE ARE HEARING ALL SORTS OF REPUBLICANS COME OUT ON THE CLAIMS FROM THE PRESIDENT BUT I TRULY WONDER IF THEY’RE GOING TO GET DROWNED OUT EVENTUALLY BECAUSE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE PROBABLY GROWING WEARY OF THIS AND WE’RE HEARING THE ELECTION OFFICIALS ON THE GROUND SAY, WE DON’T SEE ANY EVIDENCE OF THIS AND IT REALLY MAKES THEIR CLAIMS EVEN MORE TROUBLESOME >> LET’S GO NOW TO ATLANTA, THANK YOU SO MUCH, RHONDA

JOINING US BY PHONE IS REESE. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN REPORTING ON AN IMPORTANT TOPIC AND THIS IS JUST SO STARTLING HOW POLL WORKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY ARE BEING THREATENED FOR DOING THEIR JOB. WHAT IS THE LATEST? >> I WAS JUST AT A PRESS CONFERENCE IN FULTON COUNTY WHERE ATLANTA IS AND THE ELECTIONS DIRECTOR THERE , HE TALKED ABOUT A VIDEO THAT WAS BEING CIRCULATED PARTICULARLY AMONG RIGHT-WING SOCIAL MEDIA ACCOUNTS THAT PURPORTED TO SHOW A FULTON COUNTY POLL WORKER OR FULTON COUNTY ELECTIONS WORKER, BALLOT COUNTER, I SHOULD SAY AND PURPORTED TO SHOW HIM TOSSING OR CRUMPLING UP A BALLOT AND THROWING IT AWAY BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT HAPPENED. THE ELECTIONS DIRECTOR CONDUCTED A FULL INVESTIGATION AND POINTED OUT THAT THE PIECE OF PAPER BEING CRUMPLED UP AND THROWN AWAY IN THE VIDEO IS NOWHERE NEAR THE SIZE OF A BALLOT AND HE SAID IT WAS A SET OF INSTRUCTIONS THAT WAS INCLUDED IN THE ENVELOPE WITH A BALLOT AND SAT IN THAT STEP OF THE COUNTING PROCESS THERE IS NO WAY THAT THE WORKER WOULD EVEN HAVE AN ACCESS TO THE BALLOT. THE UPSHOT IS THAT THIS POLL WORKER HAS LEFT HIS HOUSE AND IS STAYING WITH A FRIEND AND IS BASICALLY IN HIDING BECAUSE HE IS AFRAID FOR HIS LIFE >> EXPLAIN WHAT IT MEANS TO GET DOCS TO ONLINE >> SOME TROLLS ONLINE WERE ABLE TO ACTUALLY IDENTIFY HIM AND TO PUBLISH HIS NAME, ADDRESS AND VEHICLE INFORMATION SO HE IS AFRAID TO GET IN HIS CAR >> STAY WITH US, I WANT TO GO TO JAMES FOR A MOMENT BECAUSE THIS IS INCREDIBLY DISTRESSING AND IT SHOWS THAT THEIR REAL-LIFE IMPLICATIONS FOR THESE FALSE ALLEGATIONS >> SO MANY PEOPLE HAVE GOTTEN CAUGHT UP IN THIS AND THERE ARE SO MANY STORIES THIS WEEK. IN DETROIT A CAMERAMAN, A LOCAL TV NEWS CAMERAMAN WAS MOVING HIS EQUIPMENT IN A PLACE WHERE THEY WERE COUNTING BALLOTS AND HE LITERALLY MOVED HIS BAG AND A VIDEO WENT VIRAL OF HIM DOING THAT AND ALL THESE PEOPLE ON SOCIAL MEDIA WERE SAYING THAT HE WAS MOVING BALLOTS AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THE SKY WAS GETTING ATTACKED.AND WAS GETTING DOXED AND THERE ARE A LOT OF CRAZY EXAMPLES OF PEOPLE BEING CRAZY AND THIS IS — THESE PEOPLE WHO WORK DOING THIS JOB IN PLACES LIKE FULTON COUNTY, THEY DO NOT MAKE A LOT OF MONEY AND OUR PUBLIC SERVANTS AND THEY TAKE THIS CIVIC RESPONSIBILITY VERY SERIOUSLY AND THESE ARE NOT PEOPLE WHO HAVE SIGNED UP FOR THIS KIND OF STUFF >> UP REESE, LET’S TALK ABOUT THREATS TO POLL WORKERS ACROSS THE COUNTRY, WHAT ARE YOU WASHING FOR — WATCHING FOR GENERALLY? >> JUST MORE OF THE STUFF WE HAVE ALREADY SEEN. THERE WERE A LOT OF JURISDICTIONS THAT OPENED UP THERE BALLOT COUNTING FACILITIES TO THE PRESS OR PEOPLE WHO WANTED TO LIVE STREAM AND ELECTION OBSERVERS , IT’S NORMAL BUT OFFICIALS WERE GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND IN A LOT OF PLACES TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYONE FELT THAT THEY WERE DOING THIS ABOVEBOARD. AND YOU NOW SEE SOME OF THOSE LIVE STREAMS SORT OF RETOOLED AND TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT TO SUPPORT TO BASICALLY FABRICATED CLAIMS OF FRAUD. BUT TO JAMES’ POINT , THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS AND ARE IMMENSELY PROUD OF WHAT THEY HAVE DONE AND I ACTUALLY SPOKE TO THE FULTON COUNTY WORKER WHO IS FEATURED IN THAT VIDEO AND I TALKED TO HIM EARLIER YESTERDAY BEFORE THAT VIDEO WENT VIRAL BECAUSE I WAS THERE FOR A PRESS CONFERENCE AND HE CAME UP AND STARTED TALKING ABOUT HOW MUCH PRIDE HE TAKES IN THE NUMBER OF BALLOTS HE IS ABLE TO OPEN AND WHEN OUR AND HE WAS TALKING ABOUT HIS OPEN RATE AND WAS BRAGGING THAT HE WAS DOING IT REALLY FAST EVEN AFTER WORKING ALL NIGHT. THESE ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE REALLY JUST IN IT FOR THE GOOD OF ALL OF US >> THAT JUST SHOWS THAT TALKING ABOUT THE HUMAN BEING BEHIND THE STORIES >> AND IT SHOWS THAT WE ARE WORDS MATTER AND ANY SORT OF UNSUBSTANTIATED CLAIMS THAT ARE TARGETING PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING AS POLL WORKERS CAN BE VERY DANGEROUS AND WE HAVE SEEN IT IN THE LAST FEW DAYS AND THEY HAVE NOT BEEN FULLY TOO WIDESPREAD

BUT THERE HAVE BEEN FLASHPOINTS WHERE YOU’VE SEEN PROTESTERS GO TO SOME OF THESE CLOSELY WATCHED STATES AND OUTSIDE OF THE COUNTING CENTERS AND TRY TO MAKE TROUBLE THERE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT I ALSO DO NOT KNOW IF WE ARE OUT OF THE WOODS JUST YET IT SEEMS LIKE WE MIGHT BE WINDING DOWN HERE WITH GETTING A RESULT, AND ELECTORAL COUNT RESULTS THAT WE STILL HAVE A PRESIDENT WHO MAY CONTINUE ON THIS PATH AND SAY THINGS THAT TRIGGER HIS SUPPORTERS INTO BELIEVING THAT THE POLL WORKERS AS WELL AS ELECTED OFFICIALS SHOULD BE TARGETED OVER THIS AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM THE NEVADA REGISTRAR, THE VOTERS YESTERDAY AND HE SAID THEY HAVE INCREASED WHO CAN COME IN AND PARK THERE AND ALSO INCREASE THEIR SECURITY TALKING ABOUT HIS FAMILY WAS CONCERNED FOR HIM. WORDS CERTAINLY MATTER AND WE ARE SEEING THIS AND IT IS TROUBLING >> THE ELECTION DIRECTOR OF FULTON COUNTY , WE HEARD FROM HIM YESTERDAY TALKING ABOUT THE IMPACT THAT COVID-19 HAS HAD ON TEAMS THERE WHAT IS THE IMPACT OF CORONAVIRUS? >> IT IS REALLY DEVASTATED THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT IT STARTED WAY BACK IN APRIL WHEN THEY WERE PREPARING FOR THEIR JUNE PRIMARY. THEY HAD TWO TOP STAFFERS CONTRACT THE CORONAVIRUS AND ONE OF THEM, A WOMAN NAMED BEVERLY WALKER DIED AND TWO MONTHS LATER THEY HELD THIS PRIMARY WHICH DID NOT GO VERY WELL IN PART BECAUSE OF THE INTERRUPTIONS OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND AS THEY WERE PREPARING FOR ELECTION DAY, MID-OCTOBER, THE FIRST WEEK OF EARLY VOTING, THERE ELECTIONS WAREHOUSE WAS HIT WITH A REALLY BAD OUTBREAK I THINK 25 OF THE 60 WORKERS ENDED UP GETTING INFECTED AND I THINK ONE QUARTER OF THEM WENT TO THE HOSPITAL. ON WEDNESDAY THE ELECTIONS DEPARTMENT SAID THEY FOUND ANOTHER CASE OF CORONAVIRUS AS WELL. AND THE PEOPLE THAT THE POSITIVE CASES HAVE COME IN CONTACT WITH THEY ARE NOT QUARANTINING AND ELECTION OFFICIALS SAY THAT IS BECAUSE THE CENTRAL WORKERS AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP MOVING. THEY ARE DOING TESTING BUT THEY ARE NOT QUARANTINING >> PRETTY INCREDIBLE. REIS, WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BE WATCHING HERE? IT IS ALMOST 8:30 PM ON THE EAST COAST AND WHAT ARE YOU WATCHING OUT OF GEORGIA RIGHT NOW? >> THERE ARE A FEW MORE COUNTIES WITH PROVISIONAL AND MILITARY AND OVERSEAS BALLOTS LEFT TO REPORT. I AM GOING TO BE WATCHING THOSE NUMBERS TRICKLE IN PARTICULARLY THE MILITARY BALLOTS TO SEE HOW THEY CHANGE THE MARGIN BETWEEN BIDEN AND TRUMP. RIGHT NOW IT’S IT’S ABOUT 4000 IN JOE BIDEN’S FAVOR I WILL BE WATCHING THOSE LAST FEW BALLOTS COME IN. EITHER WAY, I THINK IT IS GOING TO END WITHIN 0.5% MARGIN FOR A RECOUNT. WE WILL PROBABLY BE WATCHING GEORGIA IN THIS RACE FOR A LITTLE WHILE LONGER >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. LET’S GO BACK TO DAVE. TO TALK ABOUT JUST THIS REALITY YOU’RE A CREATURE OF THE INTERNET AND THIS REALITY OF WHERE THE CONSPIRACY THEORIES AND THE BOGUS ATTACKS AND SORT OF THE FANNING OF THE FLAMES HAPPENS IN A WAY THAT PEOPLE DON’T REALLY KNOW HOW TO INTERPRET WHAT IS REAL AND WHAT IS NOT REAL AND THERE IS THIS FERVOR THAT CAN HAPPEN THAT CAN IMPACT PEOPLE’S LIVES LIKE THE ELECTION WORKER IN GEORGIA >> I DO NOT THINK THIS WILL BE THE LAST OF THE STORIES. I’M HAPPY THAT THERE HAS NOT BEEN MORE OF THEM BUT THERE HAVE BEEN PEOPLE WITH OPEN CARRYING WEAPONS AND KEEP IN MIND MOST PEOPLE THAT OPEN CARRY IS FOR SHOW AND ESPECIALLY THIS IS HAPPENED AT LOTS OF RALLIES THAT YOU HAVE HAD PEOPLE MONITORING THE CENTERS AND THERE IS CLEARLY CONFUSION ABOUT WHAT TO MONITOR AS WE WERE TALKING JIM JORDAN THE CONGRESSMAN IN OHIO REACTING TO THE SUPREME COURT ORDER WHICH AGAIN DOES NOT DO ANYTHING THERE WAS NO COUNT GOING ON FOR BALLOTS THAT ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY AND THERE WERE RUMORS ONLINE AND THE KIND OF THINGS THAT YOU KNOW THERE IS SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS BECAUSE THE RUMORS SHOULD BE GIVEN TO POLICE AND NOT TO TWITTER OR TWO BLOGS RUMORS ONLINE THAT’S A POST OFFICE MIGHT BE ACTING MALICIOUSLY AT THE REPUBLICANS LITERALLY SPECULATED AND MAYBE EVERY COUNTY IS NOT SEGREGATED IN THE LATE ARRIVING BALLOTS AND

I THINK THAT THEY DID SO BECAUSE OF THIS THEORY, THE VERY UNPROVEN THEORY THAT INVOLVED MAILMAN BEING ON HONOR CONSPIRACY TO DISTRIBUTE BALLOTS TO THE STATE THAT WERE CAST OR ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY THEY ASKED THE SUPREME COURT TO DO SOMETHING AND THE SUPREME COURT INSISTED IF HE COULD PROVE IT AND THE CONGRESSMAN SAID IT’S A WIN FOR ELECTION INTEGRITY SO IT’S NOT CLEAR HOW MUCH ATTENTION THEY ARE PAYING TO WHAT’S GOING ON AND HOW MUCH THEY KNOW ABOUT IT AT THE RALLIES PEOPLE TWEETED THAT THEY ARE HEADING TO THE CITY FOR A RALLY TWEETED THAT THEY ARE HEADED TO THE ELECTION CENTER TO SHOW UP AND DO SOMETHING RATHER BUT YOU HAVE NOT SEEN ANYTHING HAPPEN AND PEOPLE DO NOT HAVE A STRATEGY THE — THAT’S A GOOD THING. YOU’RE NOT SEEN PEOPLE METAL WITH THE VOTE COUNT AND YOU ARE SEEING WHAT WE JUST HEARD WITH PEOPLE LOOKING FOR BALLOT OFFICIALS TO HARASS AND I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED IF SOME OF THIS ONLINE STUFF MOVES TO COASTAL WORKERS WHO THEY THINK MIGHT BE BEHIND SOMETHING OR ELECTION OFFICIALS WHO MIGHT BE BEHIND SOMETHING AND WE SAW THIS IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS WITH OFFICIALS WORKING ON COVID RELIEF. IN PENNSYLVANIA, FOR EXAMPLE, THE MAIN HEALTH OFFICIAL , A TRANSGENDER WOMAN, BECAME FAMOUS BECAUSE SHE WAS GIVING UP THAT’S ON COVID AND WAS HARASSED. THERE IS GOING TO BE MORE HARASSMENT. I DON’T LIKE IT BUT THAT IS THE WAY THIS IS GOING AS LONG AS MORE PEOPLE THINK THERE IS SOMETHING SUSPICIOUS HAPPENING AND I COULD SAY THAT FOR A LOT OF THE COUNTRY LIGHTS WILL GO OFF WHEN THERE IS A CALL BY THE NETWORKS AND THE AP FOR THE ADMINISTRATION AND FOR SUPPORTERS AND IT’S UNCLEAR WHEN WE COULD SAY WE CAN SIT DOWN NOW AND IF THERE’S MORE DECISIVE ELECTION THAT THE PRESIDENT WOULD NOT SAY I LOST THE ELECTION FAIR AND SQUARE AND THAT’S NOT HOW HE BEHAVES AND HE IS NEVER BEHAVE THAT WAY THERE IS GOING TO BE SOME AMOUNT OF FULMINATING ABOUT VOTER FRAUD AND LOOK AT MICHIGAN, THAT’S AN EXAMPLE OF IT AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT ACTUALLY I THINK AT THIS .14 TIMES LARGER THAN THE MARGIN THAT TRUMP ONE BY IN 2016 IN THAT STATE AND YOU STILL HAVE CONSPIRACY THEORIES THAT SOMETHING WAS DONE UNFAIRLY >> RENDA, LET’S GO TO YOU TO TAKE A STEP BACK AND TALK ABOUT THE RACE IN GEORGIA.WE HEARD FROM REIS WHAT WE ARE WATCHING FOR AT THIS HAS BEEN A REMARKABLE CONTEST AND NOT JUST FOR THE PRESIDENCY BUT ALSO FOR THE TWO SENATE SEATS. GIVE US THE BIG PICTURE >> GEORGIA IS TURNING OUT TO BE A SOUTHERN SWING STATE. IT IS SOMETHING THAT CC ABRAMS A GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE BACK IN 2018 HAS SPENT A LOT OF TIME IN YEARS TRYING TO DEVELOP AND TELL THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY THAT GEORGIA IS IN PLAY. AND IF YOU COMPARE TO THE CONTIGUOUS STATES AROUND IT LIKE FLORIDA AND ALABAMA, THEY ARE DEEP RED STATES, SOUTH CAROLINA, DEEP RED STATES THAT GEORGIA HAS BECOME A STANDOUT BECAUSE A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE MOVING IN TO THE CITY CENTER NEAR ATLANTA. IN THE METRO AREA AND THOSE OF THE COUNTIES THAT WE ARE SOMEWHAT WAITING ON TO SEE WHICH WAY THEY HAVE GONE. AND THERE WAS A LITTLE GEORGIA NEWS A FEW HOURS AGO WHERE THE HOUSE DEMOCRATS WERE ABLE TO FLIP DISTRICT THAT WAS REPUBLICAN AND NOW IT LOOKS LIKE THE DEMOCRAT IN THAT RACE WILL WIN. THAT IS ANOTHER SIGN THAT SHOWS GEORGIA IS DEFINITELY IN PLAY FOR DEMOCRATS AND MORE COMPETITIVE THAN IT HAS BEEN OR IT WAS FORMALLY THOUGHT BEFORE AND YES, THERE ARE TWO SENATE RACES THAT LOOK LIKE THEY ARE HEADED FOR A RUNOFF IN JANUARY WHEN IS BETWEEN THE CURRENT JUNIOR SENATOR, KELLY LOEFFLER AND ALSO THE DEMOCRAT RAPHAEL WARNOCK WHO IS THE PASTOR OF HISTORICAL EBENEZER BAPTIST CHURCH AND YOU HAVE THE RACES THAT ARE SO CLOSE THAT THEY LOOK THEY WILL BE HEADED TOWARD A RUNOFF. YOU CAN ALMOST SUSPECT AND BET THAT THESE ARE GOING TO BE VERY EXPENSIVE RACES AND THERE IS A LOT OF TIME FOR BOTH PARTIES TO START MOBILIZING BECAUSE IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE THE BALANCE OF POWER IN THE SENATE MAY RELY ON GEORGIA >> LET’S GO BACK TO WILMINGTON, DELAWARE BECAUSE OUR COLLEAGUE IS THERE FOLLOWING THE BITING CAMPAIGN. WHAT IS THE LATEST FROM YOU? >> Reporter: WE TOOK A LAP AROUND THE PARKING LOT AND IT IS BARRICADED OFF TO THE PUBLIC THAT WE DID REALIZE THAT THERE WERE A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE IN THIS PARKING LOT SORT OF ADJACENT TO WHERE THE BIDEN STAGE IS THAT YOU HAVE BEEN SEEING IN MY BACKGROUND AND I’M JOINED NOW BY JAMES AND HIS FAMILY, THREE GENERATIONS WE’VE GOT GOING ON HERE. YOU GUYS CAME ALL THE WAY FROM VIRGINIA

AND DROVE UP TODAY. TELL ME WHAT MOTIVATED YOU TO COME OUT HERE? >> ITS HISTORY. WE HAVE THESE TWO WHO NEED TO SEE IT >> IT HAS BEEN FOUR LONG YEARS IN ART TWO LITTLE BROWN BABIES THAT WE LOVE TO DEATH, THEY NEEDED TO SEE THAT THINGS ARE GOING TO BE OKAY AND I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING BIDEN SINCE THE 80s AND TO ME IT’S THERE AND THIS FEELS CLOSER AND JUST WANTED TO BE HERE WHEN IT HAPPENS >> NOT ONLY HISTORIC BUT HAVING THE FIRST FEMALE VICE PRESIDENT IN THE UNITED STATES, IT IS HISTORIC AND AS YOU CAN SEE , MY GRANDKIDS LOOK LIKE HER SO THERE IS NO WAY THAT WE WOULD MISS THIS BECAUSE WE WANT THEM TO SEE THAT IN AMERICA IF YOU WANTED AND YOU WORK HARD, YOU CAN REALIZE IT >> WHAT ARE SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT JOE BIDEN CHAMPION THAT YOU FEEL LIKE HE IS THE PERSON PREPARED TO LEAD THE NEXT FOUR YEARS? >> I THINK HE IS A GREAT UNITER AND HE IS A VERY KIND PERSON WHO HAS SEEN A LOT AND BEEN THROUGH A LOT AND HE DOES NOT HOW TO BRING PEOPLE BACK TOGETHER AND RIGHT NOW THIS COUNTRY NEEDS HEALING >> Reporter: YOU ARE GETTING EMOTIONAL THERE AND THESE ARE YOUR CHILDREN? >> THIS IS MY NIECE AND MY SON >> Reporter: WHEN YOU THINK OF THE LAST FOR YEARS AND WHAT YOU HOPE FOR THE FUTURE, WHAT IS IT ABOUT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN THAT YOU FEEL EMBODIES THAT AND THE PERSON THAT YOU VOTED FOR? >> CIVILITY AND LOVE AND YOU CAN SEE THAT COMING FROM THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN. YOU JUST KNOW HE IS A GOOD PERSON AND HE WANTS TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER AND I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR THE NEXT GENERATION TO SEE THAT IN A LEADER AND WE HAVE NOT HAD THAT WE HAVE NOT HAD SOMEBODY WHO IS KIND AND THOUGHTFUL AND SOMEBODY WHO COULD COMPLETE A SENTENCE AND SO IT IS IMPORTANT FOR OUR KIDS TO SEE THAT >> Reporter: D FEEL LIKE WHAT HAS HAPPENED IN THE LAST FOUR YEARS WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP IN OFFICE AND SOME OF THE DIVISIVE RHETORIC WE HAVE SEEN, DOES IT END UP TRICKLING DOWN TO YOUR NIECE AND SON? HAVE YOU HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM AND WHAT OTHERS LIKE? >> HE ASKED ME, ISAIAH ASKED ME ONE DAY WHY WHITE PEOPLE HATE HIM BECAUSE HE IS PART WHITE AND I DON’T — I HAD TO SAY, I DON’T KNOW AND IT WAS HEARTBREAKING AND IT WAS HEARTBREAKING WHEN A KID IN KINDERGARTEN OR IN PRESCHOOL TOLD HIM THAT HIS DAD SAID THEY COULD NOT PLAY TOGETHER BECAUSE OF COLOR. UNIVERSITY OF VIRGINIA WHICH HE HAS BEEN TO MANY OF TIMES BECAUSE WE HAVE A DAUGHTER THAT WENT TO SCHOOL THERE A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO AND HE SAW WHAT HAPPENED THERE AND GEORGE FLOYD WAS ICING ON THE CAKE AND TO COME AND SAY THAT THIS IS — SOME OF THESE PEOPLE WERE OKAY, THEY WERE NOT WHAT HAPPENED AT THE UNIVERSITY WAS NOT OKAY AND IT SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN HANDLED THAT WAY IT’S BEEN ALONG FOR YEARS AND UNFORTUNATELY FOR US, I DON’T KNOW HOW TO ANSWER THAT AND I HAVE TO RELY ON MY FRIENDS OF COLOR OR HIS OTHER SIDE OF THE FAMILY WHO DON’T UNDERSTAND IT EITHER >> Reporter: THIS HAS BEEN A LENGTHY ELECTION WEEK NOW AS WE WAITED FOR THE RESULTS TO COME OUT. WHAT ARE YOU HOPING TO SEE TONIGHT AND WHY ARE YOU SPECIFICALLY HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT TONIGHT? >> I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE JOE BIDEN REFERRED TO AS THE PRESIDENT-ELECT AND KAMALA HARRIS REFERRED TO AS THE VICE PRESIDENT-ELECT TONIGHT >> Reporter: WE WILL SEE IF THAT HAPPENS. WE STILL HAVE NOT RECEIVED ANY WORD CONFIRMING WHETHER OR NOT BIDEN WILL BE HERE BUT CLEARLY A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT AWAITING HIS ARRIVAL SO WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS TONIGHT >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. LET’S GO BACK TO LENNY ON THE ELECTIONS IN SIGHT TEAM. ONE THING THAT YOU HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT IS WHAT IS KNOWN AS A SPLIT TICKET VOTE OR SOMEONE MIGHT VOTE FOR A CANDIDATE OF ONE PARTY AT THE TOP OF THE BALLOT AND GO WITH ANOTHER PARTY ON A DOWN BALLOT RACE, WALK US THROUGH WHERE YOU HAVE SEEN THIS THE MOST >> ABSOLUTELY I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT SPLIT TICKET VOTING WERE GENERALLY IT’S A CONCEPT WE HAVE SEEN LESS OF. IT IS ASSOCIATED WITH STATES LIKE WEST VIRGINIA, A VERY RED STATE WITH A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR

AND THE SAME AS MONTANA AND ITS ASSOCIATE WITH STATES IN THE NORTHEAST THAT ARE GENERALLY CONSIDERED TO BE BLUE STATES THAT HAVE REPUBLICAN GOVERNORS THIS TIME WE HAVE BEEN INTERESTED IN SPLIT TICKET VOTING BECAUSE RESEARCH BEFORE THE ELECTION SUGGESTED SPLIT TICKET VOTING MAY BE AN ALL-TIME LOW BECAUSE INCREASED PARTISANSHIP SO I’VE BEEN LOOKING OUT FOR STATES THAT MIGHT HAVE MORE OF THAT GENERALLY. ONE STATE THAT I WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT HERE IS ARIZONA. EXCUSE ME, IOWA. I WAS INTERESTING BECAUSE THERE ARE TWO COUNTIES HERE THAT VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP BUT ALSO VOTED FOR TERESA GREENFIELD AND IF WE MOVED TO THE SENATE ELECTION YOU WILL SEE TWO COUNTIES. MOVING FROM RED TO BLUE AND WE SHOULD SEE THAT AND THERE YOU GO THESE WERE COUNTIES THAT VOTED FOR DONALD TRUMP BUT ALSO TERESA GREENFIELD WHICH SUGGESTS THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT DID THE SPLIT TICKET VOTING IN ANOTHER STATE IS NEW HAMPSHIRE IF WE TAKE A LOOK AT TWO MAPS OF NEW HAMPSHIRE AND ON THE LEFT WE HAVE THE MAP OF THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION AND ON THE RIGHT FOR THE GOVERNOR. WE SEE A LOT OF TOWNSHIPS IN NEW ENGLAND THE ELECTIONS ARE HELD ON A TOWNSHIP LEVEL AND NOT ON THE COUNTY LEVEL. A LOT OF THESE TOWNSHIPS VOTED FOR JOE BIDEN AND AT THE SAME TIME VOTED FOR CHRIS SUNUNU, THE REPUBLICAN SO WE SEE QUITE A LOT OF SPLIT TICKET VOTING. QUITE GENERALLY NEW HAMPSHIRE OF COURSE ON THE PRESIDENTIAL NATIONAL LEVEL CONSIDERED A BLUE STATE EVEN THAT WAS CLOSE IN 2016 AND JOE BIDEN ONE IT AND IT HAS A DEMOCRATIC SENATOR IN TWO DEMOCRATIC REPRESENTATIVES BUT IT HAS A REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR AND REPUBLICANS TOOK A STATE TRIFECTA THERE WHICH MEANS THEY JUST WON THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THE STATE SENATE FROM DEMOCRATS GETTING THE CONTROL OF THE ENTIRE STATE GOVERNMENT EVEN THOUGH ON A NATIONAL LEVEL IT IS A BLUE STATE. THE LAST STATE IS ARIZONA. ARIZONA’S INTERESTING BECAUSE NONE OF THE COUNTIES SPLIT AND THEN HAS A DIFFERENCE IN THE SENATE AND PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION THAT WE CAN SEE IS SOMETHING ELSE. WE CAN SEE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HOW MANY VOTES JOE BIDEN GOT AND HOW MANY VOTES JOE BIDEN GOT — TRUMP GOT AND LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE SAME DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE TWO SENATE CANDIDATES. MARTHA McSALLY, 99,000 VOTES AND THERE IS APPROXIMATELY 60,000 VOTES DIFFERENCE A LOT OF THE VOTES APPROXIMATELY 50,000 PROBABLY WENT TO THE LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE IN THE STATE. HOWEVER, THIS IS SPLIT TICKET VOTING AND IT IS SPLIT TICKET VOTING BETWEEN A LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE AND THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATE BUT AGAIN, THE LIBERTARIAN CANDIDATE ONLY GOT 50,000 VOTES WHICH MEANS THERE ARE MANY THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE HERE WHO DID THE SPLIT TICKET VOTING AND VOTED FOR MARK KELLY AND DONALD TRUMP IN ALL PROBABILITY. SO IF WE GO BACK TO THE MAP AND LET’S TAKE A STEP BACK OF THE NATIONAL MAP. AND LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT THE PRESIDENTIAL MAP IF WE TAKE A LOOK LATER THROUGHOUT THE ELECTION AND AFTER THE ELECTION WITH EXIT POLLING AND SURVEYS, SURVEY CERTAIN AFTER THE ELECTION SO WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT PEOPLE’S CHOICES ON A GRANULAR DETAIL AND WE WILL PROBABLY BE ABLE TO SEE MORE SPLIT TICKET VOTING AND IDENTIFY PLACES THAT HAVE A LOT MORE SPLIT TICKET VOTING AND THIS IS WHAT I’VE BEEN LOOKING AT. NOW I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE A GENERAL UPDATE. THE FIRST UPDATE I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA PENNSYLVANIA, THE DIFFERENCE IS APPROXIMATELY 19,000 VOTES WHICH WE HAVE HEARD AND THIS IS AN INCREASE IN THE LEAD FOR JOE BIDEN WHO GAINED APPROXIMATELY 4000 VOTES ON DONALD TRUMP OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF HOURS BECAUSE WE GOT RESULTS FROM ALLEGHENY COUNTY WHICH IS WHERE PITTSBURGH IS. WE GOT A BUNCH OF MILITARY BALLOTS IN THE HAVE BEEN COUNTED AND THE SPLIT 4 TO 1 FOR JOE BIDEN OVER DONALD TRUMP WHICH INCREASE BIDEN’S LEAD. WE ARE STILL WAITING FOR A NUMBER OF BALLOTS AND WE ARE WAITING FOR BALLOTS IN PHILADELPHIA COUNTY AND A COUPLE BALLOTS IN THE SUBURBS OF PHILADELPHIA AND THE ONLY COUNTY THAT IS DONE IS DELAWARE COUNTY AND YOU CAN SEE A FEW MORE HERE AND WE ARE WAITING FOR A NUMBER BALLOTS IN ALLEGHENY COUNTY. WE ARE

WAITING FOR APPROXIMATELY 29,000 BALLOTS THIS IS PENNSYLVANIA THE SECOND STATE GOING SOUTH IN ORDER OF STATES THAT HAVE BEEN UNCALLED HIS NORTH CAROLINA NORTH CAROLINA IS A STATE WE HAVE NOT HEARD MUCH ABOUT LATELY BECAUSE THEY BASICALLY DID NOT REPORT ANY NEW VOTES TODAY AND THE LAST BIG BATCH WE HEARD FROM WAS PROXIMALLY 24 HOURS AGO AND OVER THE LAST 24 HOURS WE HAVE GOTTEN 1000 VOTES FROM THEM OR SO BACK. THREE BATCHES OF 300 NOT MUCH HAS CHANGED THEIR DONALD TRUMP STILL HAS THE LEAD AND THE MODELING SUGGESTS THAT THE LEAD WILL CONTINUE JOE BIDEN STILL HAS A CHANCE AND THAT IS THE REASON THE STATE IS NOT CALLED YET AND THAT IS BECAUSE THERE MIGHT BE UP TO 171,000 BALLOTS STILL OUTSTANDING AND SOME OF THEM MAIL IN BALLOTS , 96,000 ARE MAIL IN BALLOTS AND 32,000 HER AND TELLING BALLOTS THAT HAVE COME IN SINCE ELECTION DAY AND 41,000 ARE PROVISIONAL BALLOTS. 21,000 OF THE BALLOTS CAME IN ON ELECTION DAY HIMSELF AND SINCE THEN THE NUMBER BALLOTS COMING IN HAS DECREASED SO I THINK ON NOVEMBER 4 IT WAS 5000 BALLOTS ARE SO AND ON NOVEMBER 3 OR SORRY NOVEMBER 5 IT WAS UNDER 5000 >> LIBBY, BACK TO YOU >> I HAVE SEEN THAT BIDEN HAS INCREASED THE LEAD IN PENNSYLVANIA BY OVER 20,000 VOTES AND WE ARE CONTINUING TO MONITOR THE TALLIES. DAVE, I WANT TO GO TO YOU TO TALK ABOUT HOW THE AUTOPSY IS GOING TO BE TAKING PLACE TO LOOK AT WHERE MONEY WAS SUCCESSFUL AND WHERE EFFORTS WERE SUCCESSFUL AND WERE GRASSROOTS ORGANIZING WERE SUCCESSFUL SO MUCH CREDIT HAS BEEN GIVEN TO STACEY ABRAMS IN GEORGIA AND SHE IS SHARING THE LOVE AND TALKING ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN WORKING TO CHANGE THE COMPLEXION OF WHO CAN VOTE SUCCESSFULLY IN GEORGIA RHONDA, LET’S GO TO YOU TO SEE HOW THIS AUTOPSY WILL TAKE PLACE TO ANALYZE AND FIGURE OUT WHAT WORKED AND WHAT DIDN’T BECAUSE SOME OF THE SENATE RACES HAD SO MUCH MONEY POURED IN TO THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES AND THEY JUST WERE NOT ABLE TO CLINCH IT WHAT WILL YOU BE WATCHING IN THIS QUESTIONING PROCESS THAT WILL GO FORWARD? >> FOR GEORGIA I’M LOOKING AT HOW VOTER EDUCATION REALLY WORK OUT I THINK ABRAMS AS WELL AS SOME OF THE OTHER GROUPS IN GEORGIA THAT WERE FOCUSED ON ENDING VOTER SUPPRESSION REALLY GOT TO PEOPLE AND TOLD THEM THE LAWS THAT THEY NEEDED TO BE MINDFUL OF AND AWARE OF WHEN IT CAME TO VOTING AND WHAT THINGS THEY NEEDED TO RECOGNIZE THAT THEY DID SEE SUPPRESSION. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE, NOT JUST IN GEORGIA BUT NATIONWIDE LEARNED A LOT ABOUT THE STATE LAWS AND VOTER REGISTRATION AND I THINK THAT PLAYED A KEY ROLE BECAUSE WE REALLY HAVE NOT SEEN MANY ISSUES OF VOTER SUPPRESSION OR ANY OTHER DISENFRANCHISEMENT TECH FIX THAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST ELECTIONS. I THINK ALSO THE AUTOPSY WHEN THIS IS ALL SAID AND DONE IN THE SELECTION, I THINK MONEY WILL BE A KEY THING AS JOURNALISTS AND POLITICAL OBSERVERS TO WATCH BECAUSE THIS WAS A VERY EXPENSIVE ELECTION AND IT IS LOOKING LIKE IT IS SHAPING UP TO BE AMONG THE MOST EXPENSIVE GENERAL ELECTIONS EVER AND A LOT OF MONEY WAS PUT INTO SOME OF THESE DEMOCRATS COFFERS WHO ARE RUNNING AGAINST ESTABLISHED REPUBLICANS AND INCUMBENT REPUBLICANS ON THE HILL. I THINK THE TOP THREE CONTESTS THAT WERE THE MOST EXPENSIVE ACCORDING TO THE CENTERS FOR RESPONSIVE POLITICS, THEY TRACK CAMPAIGN FINANCING KENTUCKY, SOUTH CAROLINA AND ARIZONA. A LOT OF REPUBLICANS MORE SO THAN WE USUALLY HEAR FROM WERE TALKING ABOUT THE NEED TO LOOK AT REFORM WHEN IT COMES TO CAMPAIGN FINANCE AND YOU DON’T OFTEN HEAR THAT FROM REPUBLICANS BUT WE HEARD IT DURING THE AMY CONEY BARRETT CONFIRMATION HEARING AND LINDSEY GRAHAM BROUGHT IT UP THAT HE WAS CONCERNED THAT HIS OPPONENT JAMIE HARRISON WAS GETTING A LOT OF MONEY FROM OUTSIDE SOUTH CAROLINA ENTITIES AND HE WAS CONCERNED ABOUT THAT I WAS THINKING THAT THIS ACTUALLY MIGHT BE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE REPUBLICANS WANT TO LOOK AT SOME POLICY, TIGHTENING UP OF THE LAWS THAT ADDRESS CAMPAIGN-FINANCE REFORM. I’M NOT SURE THAT THEY WILL NOW THAT SOME OF THEM HAVE PREVAILED BUT THE MONEY ASPECT OF THE RACE HAS BEEN SO STARTLING AND IT HAS BEEN INCREDIBLE AND I CAN ONLY IMAGINE THAT IT WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE WE HAVE THE RUNOFF RACES IN GEORGIA THAT WILL LIKELY BRING IN A LOT OF MONEY, OUTSIDE MANY FROM BOTH

PARTIES >> RONDY, WE HAVE SOME NEW UPDATES ON PENNSYLVANIA JOE BIDEN LEADING BY 21,637 VOTES AND ABOUT 95% OF VOTES HAVE BEEN COUNTED IN PENNSYLVANIA. JOE BIDEN CONTINUING TO GROW HIS LEAD. JAMES, LET’S GO TO YOU ON THE QUESTION OF WHO WERE EFFECTIVE VOICES AND MOTIVATING PEOPLE TO GET OUT TO VOTE AND ALSO HELPING THEM FIND WAYS TO GET OUT TO VOTE TO WEED THROUGH SOME OF THE CHANGES THAT WERE HAPPENING THIS YEAR TO DEAL WITH CORONAVIRUSES AND EVERYTHING ELSE. I WANT TO HEAR FROM YOU ON WHAT STANDING OUT AND THEN I’VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT SPECIFIC GROUPS THAT HAVE RAISED A LOT OF MONEY >> THEY DID. AS A LOT OF THE GROUPS EXPECTED BIDEN TO WIN AND I’M GETTING ALL THESE EMAILS FROM DIFFERENT LABOR UNIONS WHO WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR WORK GETS CREDITED THERE WAS NOT THE TYPICAL FIELD OPERATION THAT YOU WOULD NORMALLY SEE IN A PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. I THINK ONE OF THE REASONS THAT THE RACE IN STATES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA WAS MUCH CLOSER THAN THE POLLS SHOWED IS BECAUSE FOR SEVERAL MONTHS, REPUBLICANS HAD AN ACTIVE FIELD OPERATION AND PAID CANVASSERS GOING DOOR-TO-DOOR AND DEMOCRATS BECAUSE OF CORONAVIRUS CONCERNS AND THEY WERE NOT DOING THAT AT ALL AND WERE NOT DOORKNOCKING AND I THINK THE FIELD PROGRAMS MATTER AND THE WAY THAT CAMPAIGN OPERATIVES LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND THEY ARE WORTH A FIELD-GOAL AND CAN YOU WIN THE GAME IF YOU’RE DOWN A TOUCHDOWN? TO USE A BAD FOOTBALL METAPHOR BUT IN A CLOSE RACE LIKE THIS IT COULD BE THE EXTRA POINT OR THE FIELD GOAL. I THINK THAT IS WHY IT IS TIGHTER THAN SOME OF THE POLES SUGGESTED SO THERE WERE GROUPS THAT WERE TRYING TO HELP EDUCATE VOTERS BUT ALSO EVEN WHEN PEOPLE LIKE BARACK OBAMA WERE VISITING PENNSYLVANIA, PROBABLY 1/5 OF HIS STUMP SPEECH WAS GIVING PEOPLE PRACTICAL INSTRUCTIONS ON HOW TO VOTE AND WHAT WEBSITE TO GO TO FIND OUT INFORMATION ABOUT HOW TO VOTE AND THERE WAS A TAILORED PITCH BASED ON WHERE HE WAS ABOUT TO REMEMBER TO HAVE YOUR BALLOT WITH THE PRIVACY SLIP-ON AND THAT KIND OF THING BECAUSE THEY FELT LIKE THE SURROGATES HAD TO DRIVE THAT. AND YOU SAW A LOT OF — THE THREE FORMER AIDES WHO ARE LIBERALS IN LOS ANGELES AND THEY RAISE LOTS OF MONEY RELATED TO VOTING INITIATIVES AND THOSE GUYS ARE TAKING A VICTORY LAP AND SAYING THEIR INITIATIVE WAS PIVOTAL I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT YOU HAVE ON YOUR MIND AND OBVIOUSLY THERE’S A BIG CONSTELLATION OF PEOPLE WHO WERE INVOLVED >> LET’S PUT A PIN IN THAT BECAUSE I WANT TO BRING JOYCE INTO THE CONVERSATION BECAUSE SHE HAS BEEN TALKING TO PEOPLE AT WILMINGTON, DELAWARE WHO ARE WAITING TO SEE IF THEY WILL HEAR FROM JOE BIDEN TONIGHT. LET’S HEAD BACK TO JOYCE >> Reporter: BACK OUT HERE IN THIS PARKING LOT AND AS I WAS SAYING EARLIER THE WHOLE PERIMETER AROUND THE BIDEN STAGE AND THE WESTIN HOTEL HERE IS BARRICADED OFF TO THE PUBLIC FOR SECURITY PURPOSES AND IT HAS BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST WEEK THAT THERE IS A GROWING CROWD HERE ACCUMULATING IN THE PARKING LOT AND PROBABLY ABOUT A COUPLE HUNDRED PEOPLE WITH SIGNS AND T-SHIRTS AND A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM JUST WAITING TO SEE IF JOE BIDEN WILL SHOW UP. I HAVE JOSE AND WINDY HERE WHO ARE NOT FROM THE STATE OF DELAWARE BUT YOU ARE TRAVELING TO PHILLY HERE FROM CALIFORNIA AND TRAVELING TO PHILLY TO GO TO WAR AROUND THERE BUT YOU SAW THE FLAG AND THE BIDEN/HARRIS CAMPAIGN ON THE SIDE OF THIS TALL HOTEL AND DECIDED TO STOP. WHY DID YOU DECIDE IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH TO PULL OVER AND STOP? >> IT’S A HISTORIC MOMENT AND SOMETHING WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING ON CNN EVERY SINGLE DAY SINCE TUESDAY AND WE SAW IT AND WE MIGHT AS WELL PULL OVER AND BE PART OF HISTORY >> Reporter:WHAT DOES IT FEEL LIKE TO BE IN THIS PARKING LOT WENDY WITH ALL THESE PEOPLE AND SUPPORTERS THAT SUPPORT THE SAME CANDIDATE THAT YOU DID IN THE ELECTION? >> IT FEELS REALLY EXCITING AND I THINK THERE’S A LOT OF POSITIVE VIBES HERE AND I’M EXCITED TO BE PART OF HISTORY >> Reporter: YOU SAID YOU WERE SURPRISED TO SEE THIS MANY PEOPLE BECAUSE HE SPONTANEOUSLY CAME OVER INTO THE PARKING LOT AND ARE SURPRISED TO SEE THIS MANY PEOPLE GATHERED >> DEFINITELY. WE WERE DRIVING AROUND TRYING TO GET IN HERE AND THE CITY CENTER WAS VERY DESOLATE AND COMING HERE WE WERE SHOCKED AND WERE TRYING TO FIND PARKING AND WALKING OVER HERE AND IT JUST SHOWS THAT WE ARE UNITING FOR ONE PERSON

>> Reporter: WHAT IS BEHIND THAT SUPPORT FOR JOE BIDEN FOR BOTH OF YOU? WHAT ISSUES OR CHARACTERISTICS RESONATE WITH YOU WITH THIS CANDIDATE AND KAMALA HARRIS? >> DEFINITELY CHANGE. SOMETHING DIFFERENT. DIFFERENT VIEWS AND VALUES AND THAT IS SOMETHING THAT I’M LOOKING FORWARD TO FOR THE NEXT FOUR YEARS >> POSITIVE CHANGE. DEFINITELY >> Reporter: WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR WORD TO TONIGHT IF BIDEN COMES OUT AND YOU CAN HEAR HIM, WHAT ARE YOU SORT OF LOOKING FORWARD TO HEAR HIM SAY? >> JUST HEARING HIM SPEAK WOULD BE ENOUGH JUST BEING IN THE PRESENCE OF THE UPCOMING PRESIDENT, IT HAS NOT BEEN DECIDED YET BUT WE KNOW LOOKING AT THE ELECTION AND THE VOTE THAT IT LOOKS ALL BLUE FOR NOW SO IT IS SOMETHING THAT EVEN THOUGH WE DO NOT GET TO SEE HIM BUT THE FACT THAT WE GET TO BE HERE IN THE PRESENCE OF THAT IS MONEY MENTIS AND IT IS SOMETHING THAT WE LOOK FORWARD TO AND IT’S LIKE SAYING NOT TAKEN THE TIME TO GO SEE MARTIN LUTHER KING SPEAK AND IF THAT KIND OF SITUATION WHERE YOU JUST WANT TO BE THERE BECAUSE IT IS AN ELECTION THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED AND THE YEAR THAT WILL BE REMEMBERED AND 2020 IS ONE-OF-A-KIND >> Reporter: YOU HAVE CHANGED YOUR PLANS AFTER COMING TO THE PARKING LOT AND YOU’RE NOT GOING TO PHILLY ANYMORE BUT TELL ME WHAT YOU’RE PLANNING TO DO? >> WE ARE PLANNING TO STAND HERE IN THE COLD UNTIL HE SPEAKS WE KNOW HE WILL BE SPEAKING AND IT’S JUST A MATTER OF TIME. WE HAVE BEEN PATIENT THE PAST THREE DAYS >> Reporter: NOW YOU WILL BE PATIENT AND REAL LIFE VERY CLOSE OF CANDIDATE IF HE COMES UP TO SPEAK AND I’M HEARING FOR MY SOURCES THAT THERE IS ABOUT 50 CARS THAT HAVE GATHERED ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BARRICADE WAITING TO COME IN TO THIS RIVERFRONT WHERE JOE BIDEN COULD POTENTIALLY BE SPEAKING AT SOME POINT TONIGHT AND WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF THAT HAPPENS >> THANK YOU, SO MUCH. LET’S GO BACK TO MY GUESTS JAMES AND RHONDA JAMES, I WANT TO POINT OUT AND RHONDA THAT THE TWO SENATE RACES IN GEORGIA WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING SO CLOSELY, THEY ARE OFFICIALLY PROJECTED TO RUN OFF TO ADVANCE TO RUNOFF ELECTION STATUS AND WE KNEW THAT WOULD HAPPEN AND KELLY LEFFLER AND RAPHAEL WARNOCK RACE THAT THEY ARE ALSO SAYING THAT THEY ARE EXPECTING THAT DAVID PURDUE AND JON OSSOFF RACE ALSO HAD TO RUNOFF AND THAT MEANS THAT THE LEAD THAT PURDUE HAS IS LESS THAN THAT OVER 50% THRESHOLD THAT HE NEEDS >> RIGHT. THE DAVID PURDUE AND JON OSSOFF RACE WOULD HEAD OFF TO RUNOFF AND THE EYES WILL BE ON GEORGIA FOR A WHILE NOW BECAUSE THOSE TWO RACES COULD POTENTIALLY MEAN EVERYTHING AND IT MEANS A LOT FOR THE HOUSE. THEY ARE WAITING TO SEE IF THEY HAVE ANY SORT OF ABILITY TO GET THEIR INITIATIVES DONE BECAUSE THERE HAS BEEN SO MUCH GRIDLOCK AND THE SENATE HAS HAD THE REPUBLICAN MAJORITY FOR SO LONG AND LED BY THE SENATOR MITCH McCONNELL. ALL EYES ON GEORGIA FOR THE NEXT FEW MONTHS >> JAMES, LET’S GO BACK TO YOU AND WE WERE TALKING ABOUT SOME OF THE GROUPS THAT PUT A LOT OF MONEY INTO THE RACE TO INFLUENCE HOW VOTERS MADE THEIR DECISIONS AND LET’S TALK ABOUT ONE THAT WAS VERY FAMILIAR TO PEOPLE HERE IN WASHINGTON THAT DID A LOT OF SPLASHY AND INFLUENTIAL ADS, THE LINCOLN PROJECT. AND WAS SORT OF IMPACT DO WE KNOW, DID THEY ACTUALLY HAVE AN IMPACT ON THIS? WHERE IS THE GROUNDSWELL OF THE REPUBLICANS IS SAID DONALD TRUMP, ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. I MAY SPLIT THE TICKET AND VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS THAT I AM NOT CASTING A VOTE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP >> THE LINCOLN PROJECT WAS GOOD FOR THE-BUZZ MACHINE. A BUNCH OF PROMINENT REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST WORKING FOR MITT ROMNEY AND JOHN McCAIN AND GEORGE W. BUSH. AND IT HAS ACTUALLY BEEN STRIKING THE LAST THREE DAYS. WE TALK ABOUT NEVER TRUMP REPUBLICANS THAT THERE ARE KIND OF LIKE ANTI-TRIP REPUBLICANS THAT ARE JUST AS VIGOROUS AND THE OF REPUBLICAN OPERATIVES TO ARE NOT EVEN TRUMPETERS BUT WHO HATES THE GUYS IN THE LINCOLN PROJECT AND IT IS REALLY SOMETHING TO BEHOLD. AND THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF MOCKERY ABOUT THINGS THAT VARIOUS PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE LINCOLN PROJECT SAID THESE BOLD PRONOUNCEMENTS ABOUT MOVING REPUBLICAN VOTES THAT JUST DID NOT MOVE AND IT’S A

TESTAMENT TO HOW DIVIDED THE COUNTRY IS AND A LOT OF VOTERS DISLIKE THE ESTABLISHMENT OF EITHER PARTY THAT TRUMP WAS ABLE TO DISMISS AND OF COURSE THE REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT WAS AGAINST ME AND HE WOULD SAY WHEN ASKED ABOUT THINGS LIKE THE LINCOLN PROJECT AND EVEN THE PEOPLE IN THE WHITE HOUSE, PEOPLE LIKE OLIVIA TROY, MILES TAYLOR WHO CAME OUT AS ANONYMOUS WHO WROTE THE NOTORIOUS OP-ED I’M NOT SURE THAT REALLY MOVED ANY VOTES IT MIGHT HAVE CONTRIBUTED AND MAYBE A COST TRUMP SOME DAYS WHERE HE COULD’VE CHANGE THE NARRATIVE AND HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE BUT INSTEAD HE WAS TALKING ABOUT DISGRUNTLED FORMER AIDES. I DON’T THINK THERE’S ANYONE WHO WOULD VOTE FOR BIDEN BECAUSE SOME STAFFER REPORTED AN AD FOR A GROUP LED BY GOP OPERATIVES >> JAMES, SO MANY NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS ARE FORMER NATIONAL SECURITY OFFICIALS AND PEOPLE WHO WORKED IN THE INTERNATIONAL WORLD LEADING THE DIRECTION OF HOW AMERICA INTERACTS WITH ITS FRIENDS AND RIVALS AND THAT WEIGHT IN ON THIS AND SAID THEY DID NOT THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS FIT TO BE THE COMMANDER IN CHIEF OF THIS COUNTRY BUT THE QUESTION IS WHO DID IT RESONATE WITH? >> A LOT OF PEOPLE IN THAT SAME VOTE ENDORSED HILLARY CLINTON WHO WERE LIFELONG REPUBLICANS AND I THINK IT DOES MATTER. WEAKENED THE MILITARY VOTES AND ONE OF THE THINGS BIDEN HIMSELF WAS PARTICULARLY AUTHENTICALLY PROUD OF WAS THAT MORE THAN TWO DOZEN, JUST OVER TWO DOZEN RETIRED FOUR-STAR GENERALS AND ADMIRALS HAVE ENDORSED HIM AND I THINK THAT MEANT A LOT TO BIDEN BECAUSE HE SPENT HIS CAREER, HE IS IN INSTITUTIONALIST AND VERY MUCH PROUD TO BE PART OF THE ESTABLISHMENT. AND I THINK THAT IT MIGHT HAVE HELPED KIND OF WITH SENIORS AS SOME DEGREE BIDEN DEFINITELY DID BETTER WITH OLDER VOTERS THAN HILLARY CLINTON DID FOUR YEARS AGO AND I THINK THAT IS THE CLIENT KIND OF CROWD THAT RESPECTS SOME OF THESE THAT HAVE BEEN AROUND FOR DECADES AND DECADES. PEOPLE TRUST THEIR JUDGMENT AND THEIR WISDOM. AND WHEN YOU TALK TO VOTERS I DON’T THINK THERE WERE A LOT OF VOTERS THAT SAID THAT OP-ED IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL EXPLAINING WHY HE’S A REPUBLICAN AND SUPPORTING BIDEN IS WHY I’M VOTING FOR BIDEN. THIS — TRUMP SUCKS UP ALL DISCOURSE AND THINGS DON’T WORK LIKE THAT LIKE THEY WOULD IN A NORMAL CAMPAIGN AND IF YOU LOOK AT THE WHOLE YEAR THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE HAS BEEN REMARKABLY DURABLE SO ALL THESE EVENTS THAT DID NOT DISTRACTED MEANINGFULLY IN A LONG-TERM WAY INCLUDING THE ENDORSEMENTS RELATIVELY SMALL AND THINGS LIKE THE SUPREME COURT VACANCY, AMY CONEY BARRETT GETTING PUT ON THE SUPREME COURT AND IT DID INCITE SOME BUT DID NOT HAVE THE GALVANIZING EFFECT FOR REPUBLICANS LIKE HOLDING OPEN THE SCALIA SEAT DID IN 2016 >> BECAUSE IT DID GIVE LINDSEY GRAHAM TO MAKE IT SEEM LIKE BUSINESS AS USUAL, LIKE HE WAS CONDUCTING BUSINESS AS USUAL. HE GOT SENATOR FEINSTEIN SAYING SHE THOUGHT IT WAS A WELL HANDLED PROCESS, DRIVING DEMOCRATS CRAZY IN RESPONSE WOULD IT BE ANY DIFFERENT, WOULD IT CHANGE ANYTHING, ALL OF THOSE LAST-MINUTE HUGE NEWS STORIES OF SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER? >> I THINK DEMOCRATS REALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD CHANGE THINGS. I THINK THEY THOUGHT IT WAS A MOMENT WHERE THEY COULD REALLY AMPLIFY THOSE CLAIMS THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS A PARTY OF HYPOCRITES AS THEY SAW THAT WITH THE FACT THAT THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WANTED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE CONFIRMATION HEARING, EVEN THOUGH THEY DID NOT DO THAT FOR MAYOR GARLAND BACK DURING THE LAST VACANCY, WELL OBAMA WAS STILL IN OFFICE. I THINK THE DEMOCRATS REALLY THOUGHT THAT IT WOULD WORK AND MANY AMERICAN VOTERS THOUGHT IT WOULD WORK TOO BECAUSE IT LOOKED REALLY DAMAGING TO THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, BUT IT COULD ALSO BE AN ILLUSTRATION OF THE FACT THAT EVERYTHING HAPPENED SO QUICKLY AND THE NEWS METABOLISM IS SO QUICK ANYMORE THAT THESE THINGS THAT ARE FRONT AND CENTER ONE DAY ARE NOT NEWS THE NEXT WEEK. I AM NOT SURE IF DEMOCRATS, BECAUSE THEY REALLY COULD NOT DO ANYTHING WITH THAT CONFIRMATION HEARING AND STOPPING IT, I DON’T KNOW IF THEY WERE REALLY MAKE ABLE TO MAKE IT THE VOTING ISSUE THEY THOUGHT IT COULD BE >> OF COURSE, SO MUCH OF THIS MAY HAVE REALLY MOTIVATED DEMOCRATS AND ENCOURAGED THEM TO INDY COME OUT TO THE POLLS THOSE EXIT POLLS ARE SO INTERESTING TO WATCH AND SEE

WHAT WAS MOTIVATING PEOPLE JAMES, I GUESS THE QUESTION IS , IF WE SEE A PRESIDENT BIDEN AND YOU ARE SOMEONE ON HIS TEAM, HOW MUCH DO YOU THINK ABOUT THE WORK THAT THE LINCOLN PROJECT AND SOME MINOR REPUBLICANS DID ON YOUR BEHALF TO GET HERE? DO YOU REWARD THAT BY INCLUDING THEM IN A GOVERNING PROCESS, AND NOT JUST REWARD IN SORT OF LIKE A PRO MAC QUID PRO QUO SINCE, BRING THEM IN AND INCLUDE THEM AND SAY YOU ARE A PART OF OUR COALITION, YOU ARE A PART OF HOW WE VIEW THE FUTURE OF AMERICA, OR DO YOU JUST BLOW THAT UP AND GO HARD TO THE LEFT FLANK? >> THERE USED TO BE A RULE OF THUMB IN WASHINGTON THAT YOU WOULD CAMPAIGN A NUMBER OF YEARS AND GOVERN AN ODD NUMBER OF YEARS SO WE HAVE THIS CAMPAIGN AND EXTERIOR FOCUS ON GOVERNING AND GO BACK TO THE CAMPAIGN. THE CAMPAIGNS NEVER END NOW. THE MIDTERM ELECTIONS, FRANKLY, THE RUNOFF IN GEORGIA IS THE FIRST SPECIAL ELECTION OF 2021. THERE WILL BE MORE SPECIALS. SO, BIDEN IS GOING TO BE THINKING ABOUT, HISTORICALLY, THE PRESIDENT’S PARTY LOSES LOTS OF FEET SEATS IN THE HOUSE AND THE SENATE, SHOULD BE A RELATIVELY FAVORABLE MAP. THE RACE WE SAW IN 2016 WAS REPEATED IN 2022. THERE IS AN OPEN SEAT IN PENNSYLVANIA. THAT WILL BE THE BIG SENATE RACE OF 2022, WHAT HAPPENS IN PENNSYLVANIA. TO YOUR QUESTION, BIDEN IS ALREADY, I ASSURE YOU, THINKING ABOUT 2022. HOW DOES HE HOLD THE HOUSE MAJORITY ? IT IS A VERY, VERY NARROW MAJORITY NOW BECAUSE DEMOCRATS UNEXPECTEDLY LOST A BUNCH OF THINGS THEY THOUGHT THEY WERE GOING TO WIN. AND BIDEN’S PERMIT, HIS ENTIRE POLITICAL CAREER DRIVES HIM TOWARD TRYING TO BE BIPARTISAN AND TRYING TO BE INCLUSIVE IN THE OLD-SCHOOL SENSE OF INCLUDING REPUBLICANS I THINK THAT HE MIGHT BOW TO THE LEFT A LITTLE ON SOME THINGS AND GIVE THEM SOME RED MEAT. ALREADY LIKELY WITH THE LIKELIHOOD OF THE DIVIDED GOVERNMENT, THAT WILL MODERATE WHO HE PUTS IN HIS CABINET AND LIMIT WHAT HE DOES I AM TOLD, RELIABLY FROM BIDEN INSIDERS, HE WANTS TO PUT AT LEAST ONE REPUBLICAN IN THE CABINET, THE NAME YOU HEAR MOST OFTEN IS JOHN KASICH, WHO SPOKE DURING THE DEMOCRATIC CONVENTION. REMEMBER, HE RECORDED THAT VIDEO WHERE HE WAS STANDING AT THAT FORK IN THE ROAD? THE FORMER GOVERNOR OF OHIO, VERY CONSERVATIVE GUY COME AROUND FOR PRESIDENT IN 2016 AGAINST TRUMP. I THINK YOU COULD SEE JOHN KASICH, CHARLIE, THE GOVERNOR OF MASSACHUSETTS IS ANOTHER NAME WHEN YOU TALK AND THEY SAY THEY WILL NOT GIVE HOGAN ANYTHING, FOR WHATEVER REASON. ANOTHER NAME YOU HEAR IS CINDY McCAIN, THE WIDOW OF JOHN McCAIN, WHO ENDORSED BIDEN. BIDEN’S FOLKS SAY SHE IS IN LINE TO GET A REALLY POSH AMBASSADORSHIP, SOMEWHERE LIKELY IN WESTERN EUROPE >> JAMES HOHMANN, I GUESS WE STILL NEED TO SEE IF SOME OF THESE SUBURBAN AREAS, IF SUBURBANITES DID FIND THE APPEAL OF MODERATE REPUBLICANS THAT SPOKE TO THEM, NOT JUST THE APPEAL, BUT THE ADS , THE SORT OF TONE OF THEM. I DON’T WANT TO TOTALLY DISMISS THE EFFORTS. IT IS JUST WE ARE WAITING TO FIND OUT AND SEE REALLY WHAT VOICES HELPED CARRY INFLUENCE >> LIBBY, REMEMBER YESTERDAY, WE WERE TALKING ABOUT THE HOUSE DEMOCRATIC CONFERENCE CALL, WHICH ENDED UP GOING 3 1/2 HOURS. I THINK THAT GIVES YOU A WINDOW INTO WHAT DID MOVE THE NEEDLE. ABIGAIL STEINBERGER, WHO REPRESENTS A DISTRICT THAT IS SORT OF A REPUBLICAN DISTRICT, SHE IS A DEMOCRATIC FORM OF ENRICHMENT ON THIS CONFERENCE CALL, SHE SAID, WE CAN’T EVER USE THE WORD, SOCIALISTIC AND , PEOPLE IN MY DISTRICT THINKS DEMOCRATS ARE FOR DEFUNDING THE POLICE, TAKING AWAY PEOPLE’S PRIVATE HEALTH INSURANCE. WE HAVE TO DISABUSE THEM OF THAT. I THINK THIS IDEA THAT DEMOCRATS ARE KIND OF –THERE IS ALL OF THESE DISGRUNTLED REPUBLICANS THAT HAVE COME INTO THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY, THAT CERTAINLY DID HELP, TRUMP WAS WEAK IN THE SUBURBS CLEARLY, TRUMP CAMPAIGN SPENT WAY MORE MONEY IN 2020 THAN 2016 OR COMMERCIALS, EVEN THOUGH BECAUSE THEY MISMANAGED THEIR MONEY, THEY WERE OUTSPENT SIGNIFICANTLY BY BIDEN IN THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WAS DRIVING ADS FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS , THAT I DO THINK KIND OF DAMAGE TO THE PERCEPTION OF THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IN SOME WAYS, YOU ARE RIGHT, WE SHOULD NOT DISCOUNT WHAT THE LINCOLN PROJECT AND OTHER GROUPS DID, BUT IN SOME WORDS WAYS, IT ALMOST MADE BIDEN LOOK DISTINCT FROM OTHER DEMOCRATS, WHERE INMATE BIDEN LOOK LIKE THIS MODERATE WHO WAS REACHING ACROSS THE AISLE. MAYBE THAT GAVE A LOT OF VOTERS SOME COMFORT IN VOTING FOR A REPUBLICAN FOR CONGRESS OR THE SENATE WHILE VOTING FOR BIDEN. WE HEARD THAT

GREAT PRESENTATION FROM LENNY A LITTLE BIT AGO ON THE TICKET VOTING. IN PLACES LIKE IOWA, WHERE THAT REALLY COULD HAVE BEEN THE DECISIVE FACTOR >> GREAT POINT. JAMES, I DO WANT TO GIVE THIS UPDATE. WE DID GET A BIT BIG BATCH OF BOATS BEING TALLIED IN MARICOPA COUNTY. BECAUSE OF THAT, JOE BIDEN’S LEAD HAS SHRUNK IN ARIZONA. HE IS NOW LEADING BY JUST UNDER 30,000 VOTES. WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE AT MORE VOTES GET TALLIED IN THESE KEY STATES WE ARE WATCHING AROUND THE COUNTRY. LET’S GET BACK TO WILMINGTON, DELAWARE WHERE JOYCE COLE IS HANDING BY AND STAYING ON THE SCENE IN PARTICIPATION IN ANTICIPATION OF PERHAPS SEEING JOE BIDEN. JOYCE? >> Reporter: LIBBY, WE ARE STILL SEEING A PRE-ACTIVE SCENE IN THIS PARKING LOT NEXT TO THE BIDEN/HARRIS HEADQUARTERS, AS WE HAVE BEEN CALLING IT. IF YOU SEE BEHIND ME ON THE PERIMETER OF THESE BARRICADES , THESE BALLOONS WENT UP AT SOME POINT TODAY. THEY WERE THE DOING OF THESE BIDEN SUPPORTERS THAT I WILL BRING YOU AROUND TO TALK TO. THIS IS ZACHARY. YOU ARE FROM JOE BIDEN’S HOMETOWN OF PENNSYLVANIA. HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE OUT HERE TONIGHT? >> IT IS ABSOLUTELY ASTOUNDING I CAME DOWN ON WEDNESDAY BECAUSE IT IS NOT EVERYDAY SOMEONE FROM YOUR HOMETOWN IS POSSIBLY GOING TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY OF THE UNITED STATES >> HOW HAVE YOU SEEN THIS PARKING LOT SEEMED EVOLVED OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS? >> WHEN I GOT HERE, THERE WAS LITERALLY MYSELF AND TWO OTHER PEOPLE. LAST NIGHT WHEN I CAME BACK, I HAD A GROUP OF 10 FRIENDS, IT WAS RAN BY A 9-YEAR-OLD KID, IT WAS REALLY COOL. MY FRIENDS, WHEN WE CAME BACK THIS MORNING, WE SAID WE WILL COME AT 7:00 A.M. WE’VE BEEN HERE SINCE 7:00 A.M. WE HAD THIS AWESOME IDEA TO DECORATE THE PLACE FOR WHEN JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS COME THROUGH AND THEY CAN SEE EVEN THOUGH THERE ARE NOT SUPPORTERS INSIDE YET, THERE ARE STILL SUPPORTERS OUT HERE AND WE ARE LOUD AND BOISTEROUS. AN EARLIER, WE WERE SEEING THESE BALLOONS GO UP AND WE WERE WONDERING IF THE CAMPAIGN HAD DONE IT, BUT IT WAS YOU GUYS, THE SUPPORTERS. TELL ME A LITTLE ABOUT HOW YOU ORCHESTRATED ALL OF THIS >> IT KIND OF STARTED OUT AS A JOKE. I WAS LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT I NEED, I THINK WE NEED BALLOONS. MADISON AND JASMINE WERE LIKE, YEAH, I THINK WE NEED BALLOONS. WE TALKED ABOUT IT AND HIS PLAN EVOLVED WE ACTUALLY DECIDED WE WERE GOING TO GET BALLOONS. I DID NOT GO WITH THEM, I WAS EXPECTING LIKE 20. THERE ARE 60 BALLOONS ALL ALONG THIS FENCE LINE BECAUSE WE REALLY WANTED TO MAKE A NOTE. PEOPLE STARTED CHIPPING IN DONATIONS TO HELP US PURCHASE THEM. WHEN THE BALLOONS ACTUALLY GOT HERE, MADISON AND JASMINE PULLED THEM OUT OF THE CAR EVERYONE THAT WAS HERE AT THAT TIME ACTUALLY RAN OVER AND HELPED US HANG THEM. IT WAS A GREAT UNITY MOMENT AND SOMETHING THAT REALLY SHOWS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS WHEN >> YOU MENTIONED MADISON, MADISON I’M GOING TO BRING YOU IN SO YOU CAN TELL A LITTLE ABOUT THIS. WHAT IS FUELING ALL OF THIS ENTHUSIASM WE ARE SEEING? CAN YOU DESCRIBE THE SCENE A LITTLE BIT FOR ME AND TELL ME WHY YOU ARE OUT HERE ON TOP OF YOUR CAR? >> ABSOLUTELY. I THINK THERE IS A LOTS OF EXCITEMENT. THERE IS THIS IDEA THAT A NEW ADMINISTRATION WILL BRING BACK UNITY. COMING HERE TODAY, THE CROWD STARTED THICKENING UP LIKE ZACH SAID, WHEN WE PUT UP THE BALLOONS, EVERYONE KIND OF FLOCKED TO US. THEY RELY, LET ME HELP YOU, LET ME HELP YOU IT WAS VERY COHESIVE AND TOGETHER. I THINK THAT IS WHY WE ARE HERE. WE WANT THAT UNITY AND CONNECTIVITY WITH OUR COMMUNITY AND THAT IS WHAT WE ARE GETTING WITH THIS ADMINISTRATION >> WHAT ARE YOU GUYS WAITING HERE FOR? >> JO ANN, HARRIS ARE SUPPOSED TO BE SPEAKING TONIGHT AT SOME POINT, AND IT DEFINITELY WON’T BE A VICTORY OR DECLARATION YET, BECAUSE THE STATES HAVE NOT BEEN CALLED YET. THIS CROWD WILL BE VERY EXCITED TO SEE THEM >> Reporter: THANK YOU SO MUCH, ZACHARY, ANY FINAL WORDS? >> LIKE MADISON WAS KIND OF THING, IT IS A SENSE OF UNITY. IF JOE BIDEN A, HARRIS WIN, HOPEFULLY WE GO BACK TO THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, THE LAST THREE AND HALF YEARS IT HAS FELT LIKE WE ARE THE DIVIDED DATES OF AMERICA. THAT SENSE OF UNITY IS NEEDED RIGHT NOW. THIS COMMUNITY IS GREAT. THERE IS ABOUT 1000 PEOPLE HERE IT LOOKS LIKE. JOE BIDEN IS SUPPOSED TO SPEAK HERE TONIGHT, WHETHER IT IS TO DO A DECLARATION OF A VICTORY OR NOT, WE DON’T KNOW >> Reporter: JUST OUTSIDE OF THE BIDEN/HARRIS HEADQUARTERS . THIS IS WHERE WE ARE WAITING TO SEE IF JOE BIDEN AND KAMALA HARRIS WILL BE COMING OUT TONIGHT. WE HEAR IT COULD BE POTENTIALLY A LATE NIGHT. ONE OF MY SOURCES TELLING ME THERE ARE ABOUT 50 CARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PERIMETER, WAITING TO SEE IF THEY CAN GET IN. THEY SAID THEY WOULD BE TOLD AROUND 10:00 OR BY 10:00 IF THIS EVENT WAS HAPPENING OR NOT. WE WILL KEEP YOU POSTED ON WHAT HAPPENS HERE FOR NOW, I WILL SEND THINGS BACK

TO YOU IN THE STUDIO, LIBBY >>> RHONDA COLVIN, LET’S TALK ABOUT ENTHUSIASM . WE KNOW PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP’S HAS ENTHUSIASM FOR HIM. SOME OF THEM ARE EITHER EVEN RISKING THEIR LIVES TO GO TO CROWDED RALLIES WITH HIM WITHOUT FOLLOWING BASIC GUIDELINES FROM HEALTH OFFICIALS TO KEEP YOURSELF SAFE FROM COVID-19. WE ALSO SEE A LOT OF ENTHUSIASM FROM DEMOCRATS TO GET PRESIDENT TRUMP OUT OF OFFICE. TONIGHT, IN WILMINGTON, WE ARE SEEING ENTHUSIASM FOR THE DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES THEMSELVES, FOR THE TWO PEOPLE THAT COULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT AND VICE PRESIDENT, RHONDA >> AND I THINK THE FACT THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS GIVING UP KEEPING UP THE DECORATIONS, THE MONITORS AND SAYING THEY ARE GOING TO COME UP, WHETHER THEY HAVE A VOTE COUNT TONIGHT OR NOT IS REALLY SIGNALING TO EVERYBODY IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW THAT THEY ARE STANDING READY TO TAKE THE REINS OVER. WE KNOW THAT IS PROBABLY NOT EXPECTED, ALTHOUGH WE CAN’T SAY FOR SURE IT HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT THE PRESIDENT MAY NOT GIVE A CONCESSION SPEECH IF HE DOES LOSE. HE IS NOT GOING TO GIVE A CALL TO JOE BIDEN AND THE CAMPAIGN IS NOT EXPECTING THAT HE WOULD WHAT THEY ARE DOING RIGHT NOW, WHETHER THEY HAVE A VOTE CALL TONIGHT OR NOT, IS SIGNALING TO EVERYBODY THEY ARE READY TO START THIS. THAT MIGHT BE A REALLY IMPORTANT STRATEGIC MOVE BECAUSE THEY ARE INHERITING A COUNTRY THAT IS VERY DIVIDED, SO THEY ALMOST HAVE TO GET TO WORK IMMEDIATELY IN THIS TRANSITION PROCESS, WHETHER OR NOT THE PRESIDENT IS GOING TO DO THE GRACIOUS CALL THAT USUALLY HAPPENS WHEN ONE LOSES A POSITION. IT REALLY LOOKS LIKE A DIFFERENT WORLD, HONESTLY, WHEN YOU HEAR HOW EXCITED THE PEOPLE JOYCE IS INTERVIEWING RIGHT NOW. THEY ARE REALLY FEELING LIKE THEY ARE ON THE BRINK OF SOME HISTORY TONIGHT WE SHOULD ALSO REMEMBER TOO THAT DESPITE WHO WINS, WE ARE VERY CLOSE IN FINDING OUT A VOTE COUNT AND FINDING OUT WHICH WAY THIS CONTEST IS LEANING. IT IS GREAT TO HEAR PEOPLE THERE JUST TALKING ABOUT WHY THEY WERE MOTIVATED TO EVEN COME OUT TONIGHT MANY PEOPLE WANT TO BE A PART OF HISTORY >> LET’S GO BACK TO JEREMY BOWERS, OUR DIRECTOR IN THE NEWSROOM OF ENGINEERING. GIVE US THE LATEST >> ABSOLUTELY, LIBBY. WHAT WE HAVE GOT JUST NOW IS A REALLY INTERESTING SET OF NEW VOTES IN ARIZONA IN MARICOPA COUNTY. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE PLACES WE WERE LOOKING FORWARD TO NEW VOTES TONIGHT. MARICOPA, THE LARGEST COUNTY IN ARIZONA CONTAINS BOTH OF THE LARGEST CITIES IN THE STATE, PHOENIX AND MESA. THAT BIG GROUP OF BOATS WAS ABOUT 73,000. THAT GROUP OF VOTES BROKE ABOUT 55% TO ABOUT 44% FOR PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP. THAT MEANS THIS RACE IS TIGHTENING IT WENT FROM 30,000 VOTE LEAD FOR JOE BIDEN TO 24 OR 25,000 VOTE LEAD FOR JOE BIDEN. WHAT WE ARE SEEING IS A BIT OF A TIGHTENING HERE IN ARIZONA. THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS WHY WE HAVE NOT SEEN A RACE CALL IN THIS PARTICULAR STATE. WE ARE WATCHING THIS SORT OF TREND WITH BALLOTS. WE ARE BALANCING HOW MANY BALLOTS WE KNOW ARE OUTSTANDING, VERSUS THIS RATE AT WHICH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN APPEARS TO BE EATING INTO THE BIDEN LEAD IT IS ONE OF THOSE THINGS WE WILL BE KEEPING AN EYE ON SLOWLY OVER TIME AS WE GET MORE INFORMATION TONIGHT. WE HAVE MORE THAN JUST THOSE PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS. WE HAVE A PAIR OF INTERESTING SENATE RESULTS I WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT. IN THE STATE OF GEORGIA, IF YOU REMEMBER PROPERLY, THERE ARE TWO SENATE RACES IN GEORGIA THIS YEAR. THIS IS NOT A PARTICULARLY COMMON OCCURRENCE AT ALL. IT REQUIRES A SPECIAL ELECTION IN ORDER TO BE THE CASE. IN GEORGIA, WE FEEL CONFIDENT TO SAY VIA EDISON RESEARCH THAT BOTH OF THESE RACES WILL GO TO A RUNOFF. IN GEORGIA, IN A SPECIAL SENATE RACE, IT WAS RELATIVELY CLEAR THIS WAS GOING TO BE THE CASE THAT THERE WERE MULTIPLE REPUBLICAN CANDIDATES AND ONLY A SINGLE DEMOCRATIC, WELL TWO DEMOCRATIC, WHAT THAT MEANT WAS THERE WAS A LOT OF SPLIT VOTES NO CANDIDATE WAS GOING TO GET OVER 50% CRITICALLY, IN THE GEORGIA SENATE RACE THAT WAS NOT A SPECIAL ELECTION, DEMOCRAT JOHN ALSO AND DEMOCRAT DAVID PERDUE WERE LOCKED IN A BATTLE WHERE PERDUE LOOKED LIKE HE WAS GOING TO BE OVER 50% FOR MOST OF THE RACE ONLY TODAY DID HE DROP BELOW 50%, 49.8%. THAT WAS ENOUGH TO TRIGGER GEORGIA’S RUNOFF LAWS, WHICH SAYS THAT IF THE WINNER HAS LESS THAN 50% OF THE VOTE, THERE WILL BE A RUNOFF. THE BALLOTS FOR THAT RUNOFF GET PRINTED IN DECEMBER, THE RUNOFF ITSELF IS IN JANUARY THE REASON THIS IS SO INTERESTING IS BECAUSE EVERYTHING HOLDS TRUE THE WAY THAT WE THINK IT IS GOING TO ON THE BOARD, THE CONTROL OF THE SENATE WILL BASICALLY BE IN THE HANDS OF THIS GEORGIA RUNOFF, WHICH IS FASCINATING. WE DON’T HAVE A RACE CALL HERE IN THIS NORTH CAROLINA RACE BETWEEN CAL CUNNINGHAM AND THOM TILLIS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS GOING TO BE LIKELY A WIN FOR THOM TILLIS WHEN THE VOTES ARE FINALLY

COUNTED UP. IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO WAIT FOR. IT IS STILL OUTSTANDING. NORTH CAROLINA TAKING ITS TIME IN COUNTING THESE BALLOTS, RIGHTFULLY AS THEY SHOULD DO, MAKING SURE WE GET IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME AROUND HERE AT WINDOWS BALLOTS COME IN, WE EXPECT THOM TILLIS WILL BE THE EVENTUAL WINNER, BUT WE HAVE GOT TO DO THE ACCOUNTING. WHAT THAT DOES, IT TAKES US BACK TO THIS CASE WHERE WE ARE LOOKING AT REALLY CLOSELY TO THE BIDEN SENATE MAP WE STILL HAVE THOSE VOTES OUTSTANDING IN ALASKA. IT WILL BE A REAL QUESTION AS TO WHETHER OR NOT THE SENATE WILL BE IN REPUBLICAN HANDS AFTER THIS IS OVER, OR IF THIS WILL BE A 50-50 TIE, WHICH WILL BE RELATIVELY INTERESTING, ESPECIALLY DEPENDING ON WHETHER OR NOT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS VICTORIOUS IN ITS EFFORTS TO WIN THE PRESIDENCY. THIS IS THE STUFF WE WILL BE WATCHING, LIBBY. WE ARE NOT LOOKING FOR A RACE CALL IN EITHER THE ALASKA SENATE OR THE NORTH CAROLINA SENATE RACE TONIGHT AT OUR EYES WILL STILL BE IN PHILADELPHIA, PHILADELPHIA COUNTY IN PENNSYLVANIA, AND LOOKING TO SEE IF WE CAN GET ANYTHING OUT OF MARICOPA COUNTY TONIGHT AS WELL. UNTIL THEN, BACK TO YOU IN THE STUDIO, LIBBY >> YOU JUST MENTIONED MARICOPA, LET’S TALK ABOUT THIS. JEREMY EMMA WE ARE NOT REVERSING ANYTHING, NOT CHANGING ANYTHING, WE ARE JUST STAYING THE COURSE THE WASHINGTON POST HAS NOT CALLED ARIZONA. IF PEOPLE ARE JUGGLING OTHER NEWS OUTLETS, THEY MAY HAVE SEEN OTHER NEWS OUTLETS CALL ARIZONA FOR JOE BIDEN A COUPLE OF DAYS AGO, FRANKLY. NO RECENT MOVEMENTS OR CHANGES THERE. WHAT WE ARE WATCHING AND WHAT WE REALIZE COULD HAPPEN, AS YOU HAVE LAID OUT FOR US, THE LEAD THAT BIDEN HAS IS SHRINKING. WE ARE JUST HOLDING STEADY RIGHT? >> THAT IS RIGHT, LIBBY ONE OF THE THINGS–HERE AT THE ELECTIONS INSIGHT TEAM, WE’VE BEEN RUNNING A MODEL THAT HELPS US UNDERSTAND WHERE WE THINK THERE ARE BOTH OUTSTANDING FOR EACH OF THE CANDIDATES. IT IS VERY SIMILAR TO THE WAY THE NETWORK’S DECISION DESK TYPICALLY RUNS. IT IS A REALLY HARD TARGET FOR US TO DO PROJECTIONS IN ARIZONA. ONE OF THE REASONS WHY IS BECAUSE SO MUCH OF THE BOAT IS CONCENTRATED IN A SINGLE COUNTY. THAT MAKES IT REALLY DIFFICULT FOR US TO ESTIMATE JUST HOW MUCH OF THE VOTE IS LEFT OUTSTANDING AND IT MAKES IT EVEN MORE DIFFICULT TO ESTIMATE THE VOTE SHARE OF THAT OUTSTANDING VOTE BECAUSE WE DON’T HAVE THAT, IT GIVES US LESS CONFIDENCE IN OUR ABILITY TO MAKE ESTIMATES OF HOW MANY VOTES THERE ARE. THAT MAKES US WANT TO STAY AWAY FROM CALLING THIS RACE, ESPECIALLY KNOWING THAT BIDEN’S LEAD, WHILE APPEARING HERE, HAS BEGUN TO SHRINK OVER TIME. IT IS JUST ONE OF THOSE PLACES WHERE WE WILL BE AWARDED FOR PATIENTS, WATCHING THAT ARIZONA COUNT AS IT COMES IN IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. THAT IS WHAT WE WILL BE DOING. WE WILL WATCH EVERY SINGLE VOTE AS IT COMES IN THERE WILL BE A PROJECTION, WE WILL TAKE ONE FOR EDISON RESEARCH EMMA BUT WE ARE CERTAINLY NOT GOING TO BE MOVING AHEAD ANY QUICKER THAN THAT >> A REMINDER, JOE BIDEN DOES NOT NEED ARIZONA TO FIND A PATH TO VICTORY >> THAT IS RIGHT. THE ELECTORAL VOTES IN PENNSYLVANIA WILL BE SUFFICIENT, OR IF YOU CAN HOLD IS LEADING GEORGIA AND NEVADA, THAT WILL ALSO BE A SINGLE PATH TO VICTORY. ANY TWO STATES THAT ARE TENS OF AND ANYONE STATE THAT IS PENNSYLVANIA SUFFICIENT FOR BIDEN TO HAVE THOSE ELECTORAL VOTES. IT SEEMS THAT NORTH CAROLINA WILL BE LIKELY A PART OF THAT, GIVEN WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE DISTRIBUTION OF VOTES AND HOW PRESIDENT TRUMP IS DOING THERE WE WILL BE WATCHING THOSE RESULTS IN MECKLENBURG COUNTY TO SEE IF THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN PICKS UP ADDITIONAL VOTES WE WERE NOT EXPECTING >> JEREMY, ONE GOOD POINT THAT JAMES HOHMANN MADE EARLIER TONIGHT, IN HIS WORDS, SO MANY STATES ARE SO GOSH DARN CLOSE WE KNOW THAT SOME OF THE COUNTS WOULD TAKE A WELCOME. LOOKING AT PENNSYLVANIA IN PARTICULAR BECAUSE THE WAY THE REPUBLICAN LEGISLATOR DESIGNED THIS PROCESS, THE VOTES COULD NOT BE COUNTED IF THEY WERE MAILED IN OR DEALT WITH EARLY UNTIL ELECTION DAY. IT COULD BE CALLED IF IT IS A BLOWOUT, RIGHT? THESE STATES THAT ARE CLOSE, THEY ARE TIGHT, THEY ARE TIGHT AND THAT IS PART OF WHY THIS PROCESS IS JUST TAKING A WELCOME APPEARANCE >> THAT IS TRUE, LIBBY HERE THERE IS ANOTHER LEVEL OF DIFFICULTY THIS YEAR, WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE MAIL IN BALLOTS AND THE IN PERSON BALLOT THAT ADDS A EXTRA LAYER OF DIFFICULTY TO THE NETWORK DECISION DESK’S ABILITY TO PROJECT A RACE. IF THIS WERE AN ELECTION WHERE FIVE, 10% OF THE VOTE WAS MALE IN IN MOST OF THESE STATES , IN TIMES PRE-COVID, THIS YEAR, WE ARE LOOKING AT GREATER THAN 40, 50, IN SOME CASES 60% OF THE VOTE IS MAIL IN INSTEAD. WHILE THAT IS A LOGISTICAL CHALLENGE FOR THE SECRETARY OF STATE AND THE BOARD OF ELECTIONS IN THAT STATE, IT IS ALSO A DIFFICULT CASE FOR THE FOLKS TRYING TO MAKE RACE PROJECTIONS. IT FUNDAMENTALLY CHANGES THEIR CALCULUS AND MAKES IT VERY DIFFICULT TO USE PREVIOUS ELECTIONS IN ORDER TO ESTIMATE WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THIS ELECTION. REALLY, THAT IS SORT OF WHAT THE CORE OF THE WORK WE DO IS. WE TAKE ELECTIONS AND LEARN FROM THEM AND APPLY WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT THE SELECTION AND

FIND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THOSE TWO THINGS THAT ALLOWS US TO MAKE ESTIMATIONS. REALLY, IT IS THE COMBINATION OF THESE RACES BEING TYPED IN PLACES LIKE NORTH CAROLINA, GEORGIA, OR IN PLACES LIKE PENNSYLVANIA OR ARIZONA WHERE WE HAVE A LARGE PROPORTION OF MAIL IN BALLOTS WE HAVE NEVER SEEN BEFORE ADDITIONALLY, WE’VE GOT PROBLEMS IN ARIZONA AND NEVADA. THESE ARE ALREADY TRADITIONAL RELEASE DATES FOR US TO DO PROJECTIONS WE GAVE –SO MANY OF THE VOTES ARE CONTAINED TO A SINGLE COUNTY. IT IS A ROUGH NIGHT OUT THERE FOR FOLKS DOING RACE PROJECTIONS >> THANKS SO MUCH. JEREMY BAUER, WE WILL KEEP CHECKING IN WITH YOU AS WE GET MORE VOTES COMING IN. JAMES HOHMANN, LET’S GO TO YOU. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THINGS BEING CLOSE, IF THIS WAS A RESULT ON THE SCALE THAT SOME DEMOCRATS HOPE SOME OF THE STATES MIGHT BE, WE KNEW PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE TIGHT, BUT GOING INTO ELECTION DAY, THE POLLS WERE SHOWING THAT BIDEN HAD A REALLY SUBSTANTIAL LEAD NATIONALLY, AS WELL AS IN SOME OF THE BATTLEGROUND STATES >> EXACTLY, LIBBY. THAT IS WHY IT IS HARD TO MODEL NOW. THERE IS ALSO A REALIGNMENT UNDERWAY, WHERE BIDEN IS DOING MUCH BETTER AMONG SUBURBAN VOTERS THAN TYPICAL DEMOCRATIC RESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES DO. ALSO, HOW MANY ACTUAL URBAN VOTES ARE THERE? YOU ARE GETTING A LOT OF KIND OF ANGER RIGHT NOW FROM DEMOCRATS WHO SORT OF WANT THIS TO BE OVER WITH AND WHAT IT TO JUST KIND OF SAY BIDEN ONE WON. LET’S JUST GET IT OVER WITH. FOR ALL THE REASONS WE JUST HEARD, IT IS REALLY HARD TO DO THAT. YOU ARE SEEING A LOT OF CHATTER LIKE, OH, IN 2012, ALL THE NETWORKS CALLED OHIO FOR OBAMA, WHEN THERE WAS ONLY A 30,000 VOTE DIFFERENCE HERE THAT IS BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A DIFFERENT SYSTEM OF PRECINCTS REPORTING, AS OPPOSED TO AS JEREMY SAID, IN SOME STATES, 60% IS VOTE BY MAIL. WE DON’T KNOW EXACTLY HOW THAT BROKE DOWN, TRUMP SPENT MONTHS AND MONTHS DISCOURAGING HIS VOTERS FROM USING BOTH BY MAIL. THAT IS THE REASON WHY WE WERE BEING CONSERVATIVE AND ARE BEING CAUTIOUS. I THINK THAT IS PRUDENT, EVEN IF IT ENDS UP KIND OF HAVING ALL OF THESE STATES WITH NARROW BIDEN WINS. THERE ARE THESE ASCERTAINING VOTES, YOU SEE LIKE ARIZONA, IT REALLY IS AMAZING HOW HUGE MARICOPA COUNTY IS AND TWO OF THE BIGGEST CITIES IN THE STATE ARE IN MARICOPA COUNTY. IT IS INCREDIBLY SPRAWLING. A LOT OF IT IS KIND OF, YOU HAVE URBAN AREAS, SUBURBAN AREAS, RURAL AREAS. ONE OF THE THINGS WITH MARICOPA COUNTY IS, THAT IS THE VAST MAJORITY OF VOTES IN THE STATE. WE KNOW THERE ARE X NUMBER OF BALLOTS FROM THIS COUNTY, ARE THOSE FROM THE RURAL PART OF THE COUNTY, DOWNTOWN PHOENIX? WE DON’T KNOW. THAT IS WHY I THINK THERE HAS BEEN HESITATION ON OUR END, BECAUSE WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THOSE PALLETS ARE TO ARIZONA IN TOTAL CONFIDENCE >> RHONDA COLVIN, THIS HAS BEEN A WAITING GAME , NOT JUST FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL RACE, BUT TO FIGURE OUT THE TOTAL OUTCOME IN THE BATTLE FOR THE CONTROL OF THE SENATE, WITH THIS PROJECTION THAT THE GEORGIA SENATE RACES WILL GO INTO RUNOFF, WE ARE REALLY WATCHING A COUPLE OF MORE PLACES TO GET DEFINITIVE ANSWERS, NORTH CAROLINA AND ALASKA. RIGHT NOW, WE ARE LOOKING AT A VERY SPLIT SENTENCE, REGARDLESS OF HOW IT ALL ULTIMATELY GOES DOWN. IT IS QUITE LIKELY, RHONDA, WE WILL BE WATCHING THOSE GEORGIA RACES TO FIGURE OUT WHICH WAY THIS WILL GO IN JANUARY >> THE GEORGIA RACES, NOW THAT THEY HAVE ENTERED THAT RUNOFF TERRITORY ARE INCREDIBLE FOR BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. FOR DEMOCRATS, IT MIGHT STRENGTHEN THEIR NUMBERS THERE, OR IT MAY COME AS JEREMY POINTED OUT, CREATE THIS RARE 50-50, WHERE YOU WOULD HAVE, POTENTIALLY, IF KAMALA HARRIS IS THE VICE PRESIDENT AND ONE OF THE VICE PRESIDENT’S RULES IS TO WEIGH IN ON ANY TIEBREAKERS IN THE SENATE, THAT SHE WOULD DO THAT. AGAIN, ALL EYES ON GEORGIA, EVEN AFTER WE GET THERE PRESIDENTIAL RESULTS BECAUSE OF THE SENATE RACE, IT IS RARE FOR THIS TO BE HAPPENING WHERE ONE STATE HAS A RUNOFF FOR 2 OPEN SEATS TO SEND TO THE U.S SENATE. IT IS REALLY INCREDIBLE I THINK IT IS SOMETHING WE WILL REALLY BE BREAKING DOWN ONCE THINGS SETTLE DOWN WITH THE PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION, IF THEY EVER DO. [ LAUGHTER ] WE WILL HAVE TO KEEP EYES ON GEORGIA, BECAUSE EVERYTHING NOW REALLY RELIES ON WHAT THAT RUNOFF THERE TURNS OUT TO BE >> SO, JAMES, WE ARE SEEING SOME MOVEMENT IN WILMINGTON WE ARE WATCHING TO SEE WHEN WE MIGHT HEAR FROM JOE BIDEN. WHAT ARE WE LEARNING SO FAR? >> THEY GATHERED THE POOL, PUT THEM IN THE PRESS MAN. THERE IS REPORTERS, BECAUSE OF COVID,

THERE IS A VERY LIMITED NUMBER OF REPORTED ACTUALLY WITH BIDEN THERE LITERALLY IS A VAN PARKED IN FRONT OF JOE BIDEN’S HOUSE IN WILMINGTON. THE PERSON IN THAT VAN SAYS THAT THEY STARTED TO LOAD AND MOVE ABOUT 10 MINUTES AGO TO COME FROM BIDEN’S HOUSE COME ABOUT 10 MINUTES FROM BIDEN’S HOUSE OVER TO THE CHASE CENTER. THAT DOES NOT MEAN HE IS GOING TO COME OUT RIGHT AWAY. IT DOES SUGGEST THAT WE ARE GOING TO HEAR FROM BIDEN. IT DOES MEAN THAT THEY MAY BE IN THAT RELUCTANT POSITION THEY WANTED TO AVOID WHERE BIDEN WILL GIVE A SPEECH THAT DOES NOT SAY WE WON , BUT THAT SAYS, WE ARE ON THE TRAJECTORY TOWARD WINNING AND IN KIND OF SOMEWAY FOLLOWS THE SAME TONE WE SAW THE LAST TWO DAYS, WHERE HE SAYS BE PATIENT, IT IS GOING TO WORK OUT. HE ALSO TRIES TO PROJECT THE AURA OF INEVITABILITY, AND ALSO THE AURA OF BEING PRESIDENTIAL >> SO, WE ARE ALL WATCHING TO SEE IF PENNSYLVANIA, JAMES, COULD BE A DECIDING FACTOR TONIGHT. WE KNOW THERE WAS THE ATTEMPT BY REPUBLICANS TO DEAL A BLOW TO THE VOTE COUNTING PROCESS AND THE SUPREME COURT HAS WEIGHED IN ON IT FOR THE MOMENT. IT IS REALLY KEEPING THINGS AS THE STATUS QUO, REMINDING VIEWERS WHY THIS IS NOT A HUGE WIN FOR REPUBLICANS, BUT ALSO NOT A TOTAL LOSS FOR THEM EITHER >> THE BALLOT COUNTING WILL CONTINUE, BUT JUST AS IT IS HAPPENING NOW THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE BALLOTS THAT ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY, WHICH WERE LEGITIMATELY CAST , THAT ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY, THEY ARE GOING TO STILL COUNT THEM, THEY ARE JUST GOING TO HOLD THEM SEPARATELY, SO THAT IF THERE IS A COURT DECISION DOWN THE ROAD THAT SAYS THOSE SHOULD NOT BE COUNTED BECAUSE THE EMERGENCY COVID RULES THE STATE ANNOUNCED SEVERAL MONTHS AGO WEREN’T LEGITIMATE SOMEHOW , THAT IT WAS NOT APPROPRIATE UNDER THE EMERGENCY COVID RULES, WHAT THEIR AUTHORITIES WERE. IF THERE IS SOME SCENARIO WHERE YOU WOULD POTENTIALLY SEE CONSERVATIVE SUPREME COURT DISMISSED THOSE BALLOTS. WE ARE TOLD BY THE PENNSYLVANIA SECRETARY OF STATE THERE IS ONLY A COUPLE OF THOUSAND OF BALLOTS EVEN WORSE CASE FOR BIDEN, IF HE HAS A 20,000, 30,000, 40,000 VOTE LEAD AND HE LOSES, HE IS NOT WINNING ALL SAY 5000 OF THOSE BALLOTS. THESE ARE HYPOTHETICAL NUMBERS, 4000 OF THEM. THAT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME OF THE RACE WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW IS CONTINUING, WHICH IS THAT THEY HAVE ALREADY BEEN SEGREGATING THE BALLOTS. IT FEELS WEIRD TO USE THAT WORD, BUT THAT IS THE LEGAL TERM, THEY HAVE SEGREGATED THE BALLOTS AND THEY ARE GOING TO CONTINUE COUNTING. THEY WILL KNOW THE NUMBERS, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE THE OUTCOME, NOT GOING TO CHANGE WHAT IS ALREADY HAPPENING. THIS IS SORT OF THE DEFAULT POSITION YOU WOULD TAKE AS A JUSTICE IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO HAVE TO DECIDE THE UNDERLYING LEGAL MERITS OF THE CASE THAT WAS BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU >> LET’S GO TO EMMA BROWN, INVESTIGATIVE REPORTER JOINING US BY PHONE. EMMA, I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON IN NEVADA. THIS HAS BEEN OF GREAT INTEREST, OF COURSE, BECAUSE NEVADA AND ARIZONA COMBINED IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT VOTE TALLY. OF COURSE, THERE ARE LOTS OF DIFFERENT PATHS TO VICTORY RIGHT NOW FOR JOE BIDEN. WE HAVE BEEN WATCHING THIS INCREMENTAL COUNT, WHAT IS THE LATEST? >> WELL, NEVADA HAS BECOME THE SUBJECT OF MANY MEANS MEMES ONLINE FOR SLOW COUNTING OF ITS MANY MAIL-IN BALLOTS. AS THESE BALLOTS HAVE COME IN OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS SINCE ELECTION DAY, JOE BIDEN’S NARROW LEAD HAS GROWN. TODAY, IT HAS DOUBLED, IN FACT TO ABOUT 22,000 VOTES. THE BALLOTS THAT ARE COMING IN ARE MOSTLY FROM CLARK COUNTY, WHICH IS HOME TO LAS VEGAS AND THE DEMOCRATIC STRONGHOLD IN NEVADA. THESE BALLOTS ARE GOING ABOUT 2-1 TO JOE BIDEN. THE MORE THAT COME IN, THE BETTER HE DOES. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND REPUBLICAN PARTY IN NEVADA HAVE BEEN TRYING TO SLOW DOWN THE PROCESS BY FILING A COUPLE OF LAWSUITS THEN, THERE WAS A NEW ONE, IT WAS TOUTED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN, BUT FILED BY TWO CONGRESSIONAL CANDIDATES, BOTH REPUBLICANS, FILED IN FEDERAL COURT YESTERDAY. TODAY, A FEDERAL JUDGE REALLY, QUICKLY BLOCKED THEIR REQUEST TO SLOW THINGS DOWN BY COURT TO ORDER CHANGES IN THE WAY THAT CLARK COUNTY WAS PROCESSING BALLOTS. CLARK COUNTY WILL CONTINUE TO PROCESS THOSE BALLOTS. THEY SAY THEY HOPE TO FINISH THEIR MAIL BALLOTS BY SUNDAY AND PROVISIONAL BALLOTS SOMETIME AFTER THAT

>> YOU ARE SO RIGHT, EMMA THOMAS SOME OF THE MEMES THAT HAVE BEEN CIRCULATING ARE SO FUNNY, AND NO DISRESPECT, EMMA, TO THE PEOPLE COUNTING BALLOTS AND DOING THE HARD WORK IN NEVADA, BUT IT IS JUST THIS LIKE WATCHING THE POT, AND IT IS NOT BOILING. WHEN WE HEARD A PRESS BRIEFING TODAY, IT DID SEEM LIKE THE UNOFFICIAL THERE RECOGNIZED THAT PEOPLE ARE PUSHING FOR MORE RESOLUTION, MORE INFORMATION. HE IS JUST GOING TO OF STAYING THE COURSE AND GOING OVER THE NUMBERS, EMMA >> HE KEEPS SAYING IT IS MORE IMPORTANT TO GET THIS RIGHT, GET IT FAST, MEANWHILE, THE WHOLE COUNTRY IS WATCHING. [ LAUGHTER ] WE ARE ON PINS AND NEEDLES, WONDERING WHAT IS GOING TO HAPPEN. SOMEONE, THE KIND OF CONCESSION THAT CLARK COUNTY MADE, THEY WILL START REPORTING VOTE TOTALS NOT JUST ONCE A DAY, BUT TWICE A DAY, WHICH IS GOOD NEWS THIS MORNING OR THE AFTERNOON UPDATE WAS A MERE 5000 VOTES. HE DID NOT GIVE US A WHOLE LOT MORE INSIGHT INTO WHEN WE WILL BE ABLE TO KNOW THE OUTCOME OF THIS RACE. SO, EVERYBODY WANTS THEM TO HURRY UP AND THE REGISTERED VOTERS IN FLORIDA ARE SAYING IT IS A REAL TIME-CONSUMING PROCESS. NEVADA IS ONE OF THE STATES THIS YEAR THAT DRAMATICALLY HAD MAIL-IN BALLOTS, THEY MAILED A BALLOT TO EVERY REGISTERED VOTER IN THE STATE. THE GOOD FOLKS WHO DO THE WORK OF DEMOCRACY AND COUNTING BALLOTS ARE DOING THEIR BEST, BUT IT IS NOT MOVING QUICKLY >> IS THERE RECOGNITION, EMMA, IN NEVADA THAT THERE IS NATIONAL PRESSURE? IS IT CHANGING THE WAY THEY ARE VIEWING THEIR RULE, OR IS THAT REALLY IRRELEVANT? IS THAT PROJECTED ON THEM AND THEY ARE NOT HAVING TO COPE IT BACK? I KNOW JOURNALISTS ARE THERE, WATCHING AND WAITING TO SEE WHAT HAPPENS >> I THINK THAT THE FOLKS WHO RUN THE ELECTIONS WANT TO DO AN ACCURATE AND EXCELLENT JOB, NO MATTER WHAT. I THINK THEY CAN’T HELP BUT FEEL THE PRESSURE, NOT ONLY OF THE NATION WATCHING, BUT THEY HAVE BEEN HIT WITH A NUMBER OF LAWSUITS, CLARK COUNTY IN PARTICULAR, OVER THE WAY THEY ARE PROCESSING BALLOTS AND COUNTING BALLOTS. I THINK EVERYONE THERE FEELS LIKE THEY ARE UNDER A MICROSCOPE AND WANT TO DO EVERYTHING JUST RIGHT TO AVOID ANY KIND OF CATASTROPHE WHERE THEY ARE FOUND TO HAVE DONE SOMETHING WRONG >> EMMA BROWN TALKING WITH US ABOUT THE STATE OF NEVADA HERE THANK YOU SO MUCH, APPRECIATE THAT. RHONDA COLVIN, LET’S GO BACK TO YOU FOR HOW THE STATE OF NEVADA FITS INTO THE NATIONAL PICTURE AS WE ARE LOOKING AT THOSE PATHS TO VICTORY AND THE OVERALL MAP >> IT REALLY SHOULD MAKE A DIFFERENCE FOR BIDEN IF WE DO HEAR SOMETHING FROM PENNSYLVANIA. NEVADA IS SO INTERESTING BECAUSE IT IS THAT ONE STATE THAT HAS BEEN VERY CLEAR THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TAKE THEIR TIME ON THIS. I KNOW THE REGISTRAR SPOKE YESTERDAY WHERE HE SAID, WE ARE NOT INTERESTED IN GOING FAST, WE ARE JUST INTERESTED IN MAKING THIS ACCURATE. AS EMMA POINTED OUT, THEY EXPANDED THEIR MAIL-IN BALLOTS SYSTEM BECAUSE OF THE CORONAVIRUS. THAT IS WHAT IS TAKING SO MUCH TIME. IT IS JUST, AGAIN, ONE OF THOSE STATES THAT HAS BEEN SWAMPED WITH THE RESPONSE TO MAIL-IN VOTING AND THE LEVEL OF VOTING WE HAVE BEEN SEEING ACROSS THE COUNTRY. CLARK COUNTY BEING THAT MOST POPULOUS COUNTY THERE, THAT IS OBVIOUSLY GOING TO TAKE A LOT OF TIME. I THINK ONE OF THE MOST INTERESTING POINT I HAVE SEEN WHEN LOOKING AT SOME OF THE DATA ABOUT NEVADA, IS THAT IN EXIT POLLING, THE NUMBER ONE ISSUE FOR THEM WAS THE ECONOMY. THAT BEAT THE CORONAVIRUS. IN OUR EXIT QUESTION, IT WAS POISED TO THEM, WOULD YOU RATHER THE ECONOMY BE ON TRACK, EVEN IF IT MEANS THE VIRUS IS NOT HANDLED? MORE VOTERS ANSWERED, YES, THEY PERFORM PREFERRED THAT, THE CORONAVIRUS BEING HANDLED IF IT MEANT THE ECONOMY WOULD BE HURT. IT LOOKS LIKE THE ECONOMY IS ONE OF THOSE ISSUES FRONT AND CENTER, AND OF COURSE IT PROBABLY PLAYED INTO THE LEVEL AND AMOUNT OF VOTING THAT THEY RECEIVED >> JAMES HOHMANN, LET’S TALK ABOUT WHAT YOU WILL BE WATCHING OVER THE WEEKEND. IT IS FRIDAY NIGHT HERE, WE ARE STILL WATCHING TO SEE AN EVOLUTION OF NEWS TONIGHT WE ARE NOT GIVING UP HOPE ON THAT. WE ARE HEADING INTO THIS WEEKEND CYCLE. I THINK PEOPLE ARE WATCHING, WONDERING IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE ANYTHING? IS THAT GOING TO CHANGE HOW THE STATE’S ARE PROCESSING BALLOTS, HOW THEY ARE COUNTING, DO PEOPLE TAKE THE WEEKEND OFF? WHAT SORT OF QUESTIONS ARE YOU ASKING ABOUT HOW THIS PROCESS WILL KEEP GOING? IT IS A GREAT QUESTION THAT WE HAVE SUCH A DECENTRALIZED ELECTION SYSTEM, IT VARIES BY JURISDICTION. THIS IS THE SUPER BOWL FOR THESE ELECTION FOLKS. OBVIOUSLY, THEY

WANT TO DO IT RIGHT. THEY ARE TEACHING US THAT PATIENCE IS A VIRTUE. AS WE HEARD EARLIER, IT IS KIND OF KARMA FOR BIDEN, WHO KEEPS EVERYONE ELSE WAITING, NOW HE IS WAITING. IN NEVADA, THEY HAVE PLEDGED THAT THEY WILL GIVE US MORE NUMBERS HERE THE OTHER THING, LIBBY, TO KEEP IN MIND , THE STATES DO HAVE STATUTORY DEADLINES THAT ARE ACTUALLY- -WHEN WE TALK ABOUT IT, WE THINK, THREE WEEKS, THAT IS A REALLY LONG TIME TO COUNT ALL OF THE BALLOTS, GET THEM CERTIFIED AND SUBMIT THE OFFICIAL COUNT IN FACT, WHEN YOU THINK OF ALL OF THE LOGISTICAL STUFF THAT NEEDS TO BE DONE, RE-CONVINCING AND ALL OF THAT, IT IS A PRETTY TIGHT TIMELINE TO TURN THESE THINGS AROUND THIS IS THE EQUIVALENT OF IF YOU ARE AN ACCOUNTANT, YEAR AND, WHERE YOU KNOW THIS IS COMING I THINK WE ARE GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE PROCESSING COUNT TOMORROW. I THINK THERE IS A DESIRE, ESPECIALLY WITH OUR CONVERSATION WITH RESSE WHICH WAS SO CHILLING, ABOUT THE POLL WORKER IN ATLANTA THAT IS GETTING ALL OF THESE TERRIBLE THREATS. I THINK THERE IS A DESIRE NOT TO LET THIS THING DRAG OUT LONGER THAN IT NEEDS TO. THEY OBVIOUSLY WANT TO BE CAREFUL AND DON’T WANT TO SEEM LIKE THEY ARE RUSHING, BUT THEY ALSO DON’T–EVERYDAY THEY TAKE TO COUNT THE BALLOTS, THERE WILL BE MORE PROTESTS OUTSIDE OF ELECTION OFFICES, MORE CONSPIRACY THEORIES SPREADING ONLINE, THAT KIND OF THING. I THINK THAT DEFINITELY IS A FACTOR MOTIVATING A LOT OF THE ELECTIONS OFFICIALS FROM COAST TO COAST >> LET’S GO BACK TO RHONDA COLVIN AS WE KEEP OUR EYE ON WILMINGTON DELAWARE AND WE WILL CHECK IN WITH JOYCE KOH IN A MINUTE. IT IS NOTABLE, HERE WE ARE WATCHING THIS SHOT OF THIS HIGHLY PRODUCED, CHOREOGRAPHED STAGE, WHICH IS SO EFFECTIVELY LIT AT NIGHT. WE ARE NOT SEEING ANYTHING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE. IT IS REALLY CRICKETS, RHONDA >> IT REALLY IS CRICKETS. IF YOU NOTICE YESTERDAY, BIDEN CAME OUT AND SPOKE AND WE GOT WORD THAT TRUMP WOULD SPEAK. I AM NOT SURE GIVEN THE TIME OF NIGHT HERE, IF TRUMP WOULD CHOOSE TO COME ON AFTER BIDEN. I WAS WONDERING THAT YESTERDAY, WAS THAT A PART OF THE THINKING AT THE WHITE HOUSE, HE WANTED TO CLOSE OUT THE NIGHT AFTER BIDEN SPOKE SO QUICKLY. IT IS CRICKETS, BUT I DON’T THINK IT WILL BE CRICKETS FOR LONG. I THINK IF WE LOOK AT THE PAST WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, HE OFTEN DOES NOT STAY QUIET FOR VERY LONG, WHETHER IT IS PUBLICLY OR MORE LIKELY ON HIS FAVORITE MODE OF COMMUNICATION, WHICH IS TWITTER HE MAY SAY SOMETHING AFTER BIDEN SPEAKS, EVEN IF IT IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT FORMAL OR FROM THE CAMPAIGN ITSELF, I SUSPECT THAT HIS AIDES DO WANT HIM TO MAYBE BE A LITTLE QUIET RIGHT NOW, ESPECIALLY AFTER LAST NIGHT AND EVEN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY, WITH SO MANY RESPONSES TO WHAT HE SAID YESTERDAY FROM THOSE OF MITCH McCONNELL, WHO SORT OF GAVE MIXED MESSAGES, SAYING, WE NEED EVERY LEGAL VOTE COUNTED, WHICH IS SOMETHING NO ONE IS ARGUING, EVERYONE WANTS THAT AND ALL OF THESE VOTES ARE LEGAL VOTES. I THINK THE REPUBLICAN PARTY WOULD PROBABLY PREFER THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP MAY STAND BACK FROM ANY COMMENT JUST YET. I DO NOT THINK IT WILL BE LONG BEFORE WE HEAR SOMETHING FROM HIM >> JAMES HOHMANN, OUR COLLEAGUES WHO COVERED THE WHITE HOUSE SO CLOSELY ARE TALKING TO THEIR SOURCES TO FIGURE OUT WHAT ADVISORS ARE TELLING PRESIDENT TRUMP, WHAT THEY ARE TELLING REPORTERS ABOUT HOW THEY THINK HE SHOULD ACT OR SPEAK, IF THIS IS A HIM, SHOULD HE MAKE A CONCESSION SPEECH OR NOT, BUT HE ACKNOWLEDGED THIS OR NOT? WHETHER THEY ARE HAVING TO WEIGH IN INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW >> OUR COLLEAGUES HAVE A REALLY DEEPLY REPORT A STORY ON OUR WEBSITE THAT JUST WENT UP A FEW WEEKS AGO. BASICALLY, THEY REPORT THERE ARE TWO COUNTS INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE. ONE CAMP WANTS TO FIGHT IT OUT, GUNS BLAZING, THAT METAPHOR. THAT CAMP IS THE PRESIDENT AND HIS FAMILY, KIND OF HIS HARD-CORE, TRUE BELIEVERS, PEOPLE LIKE HIS FORMER GOLF CADDY TURNED SOCIAL MEDIA MANAGER, TURN DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF. ON THE OTHER SIDE, YOU HAVE THE TRADITIONAL REPUBLICAN ESTABLISHMENT TYPES IN A CIRCLE, PEOPLE LIKE FORMER WHITE HOUSE CHIEF OF STAFF THAT WAS THE CHAIRMAN OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IN 2016, PEOPLE OF THAT ILK ARE SAYING WHAT THE NUMBERS AREN’T THERE, YOU ARE GOING TO LOSE THE PROBLEM IS, NOBODY WANTS TO LOSE, EVEN PEOPLE CLOSE TO TRUMP, NO ONE WANTS TO BREAK BAD NEWS TO HIM THERE IS A WILD BLIND QUOTE FROM ONE OF THE PEOPLE IN THAT SECOND CAMP IN THE STORY WHO BASICALLY

SAYS, IT IS LIKE TRYING TO TELL MATT KING GEORGE OR KING LEAR THAT HE HAS LOST HIS EMPIRE AND NO ONE WANTS TO BRING THAT BACK. IT IS SORT OF REMARKABLE SOMEONE CLOSE TO THE WHITE HOUSE WOULD SPEAK IN THOSE TERMS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT, BUT IT DOES SPEAK TO REALITY AND A RECOGNITION THAT IT IS NOT LOOKING GOOD FOR TRUMP. THERE IS SOME REPORTING THAT KIND OF TRUMP RECOGNIZES THAT HE AND JARED KUSHNER IS A PART OF THE FAMILY, THE SON-IN-LAW, WHILE THEY WANT TO FIGHT IT OUT, THEY ARE NOT TOTALLY OBLIVIOUS TO THE MATH AND THE REALITY. APPARENTLY, ACCORDING TO THE POST REPORTING, THERE HAS BEEN CONVERSATION WHERE TRUMP MAY NOT GIVE A CONCESSION SPEECH, BUT HE MAY KIND OF REASSURE THE WORLD AND THE MARKETS AND THE COUNTRY THAT THERE WILL BE A PEACEFUL TRANSITION OF POWER THAT HE IS NOT GOING TO REFUSE TO LEAVE THE WHITE HOUSE. THERE WERE THREE SOURCES WHO TOLD HIM THAT AND THERE WAS ANOTHER SENIOR OFFICIAL UNNAMED IN THE PEACE CORPS DENIED THAT AND SAID THERE HAS BEEN NO TALK AT ALL. IT IS HARD COVERING THE TRUMP WHITE HOUSE, YOU HAVE NO IDEA WHO TO BELIEVE. THERE DEFINITELY ARE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING IN THE WHITE HOUSE, 1000%, EVEN WITH THE PRESIDENT AND PARTY TO THOSE CONVERSATIONS. THE ONLY OTHER ELEMENT HERE, AND THIS IS THREE STOOGES KIND OF FUNNY IN SOME WAYS. THE WHITE HOUSE HAS AN INCREDIBLE SLAP DASH LEGAL RESPONSE AND THERE IS A LOT OF FINGER-POINTING INTERNALLY INSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE AND INSIDE THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. ACCORDING REPORTEDLY, SOURCES ARE REPORTING, A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN THOUGHT THAT JARED KUSHNER WAS IN CHARGE OF THE POSTELECTION LEGAL EFFORTS, AND JARED KUSHNER THOUGHT THAT PEOPLE ON THE CAMPAIGN WHERE DEALING WITH IT WHAT ENDED UP HAPPENING, IN A PRACTICAL WAY, NO ONE WAS REALLY DEALING WITH IT. NOW, THEY ARE TRYING TO GET CAUGHT UP AND UP TO SPEED BECAUSE THEY SORT OF DROPPED THE BALL ON A LOT OF THE LEGAL PLANNING, WHICH IS ALL THE MORE STAGGERING. EVEN THOUGH WE DID NOT KNOW THE ELECTION WAS GOING TO BE THIS CLOSE, WE KNEW FOR MONTHS AND MONTHS THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS PLANNING TO–IF YOU LOST, OR WAS LOSING, OR TRAILING, CHALLENGE THE INTEGRITY OF THE VOTE. IT IS KIND OF A WILD EMBLEMATIC IN A LOT OF WAYS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE COVID RESPONSE, THAT THEY HAVE THROWN TOGETHER THIS RESPONSE THAT IS WHY WHEN YOU COMPARE WHAT IS GOING ON RIGHT NOW, THE 2000 RECOUNT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAS BEEN SAID, JARED KUSHNER HAS TOLD SEVERAL PEOPLE, WE WANT OUR JIM BAKER, JIM BAKER WHO HAD BEEN SECRETARY OF STATE FOR GEORGE H. W BUSH HAD BEEN RONALD REAGAN’S CHIEF OF STAFF, HE OVERSAW ALL OF THE RECOUNT EFFORTS, BRILLIANT LEGAL MIND THE REAL JIM BAKER TOLD THE “NEW YORK TIMES” YESTERDAY WHAT TRUMP IS DOING IS TOTALLY DIFFERENT WE NEVER ASKED PEOPLE TO STOP THE ACCOUNT, WE NEVER SAID DON’T COUNT ALL OF THE BALLOTS, THAT SORT OF THING. THEY ALSO DON’T HAVE A JIM BAKER. THEY HAVE GOT RUDY GIULIANI, RICK GRENELL, PAM BONDI, TORI LEWANDOWSKI THIS IS NOT FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE, THE 18 >> AND OUR COLLEAGUES REPORTED THAT DAVID BOSSI HAS NOW BEEN TAPPED TO LEAVE THE LEGAL EFFORTS, SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A LAWYER AND HAS HIS OWN COMPLICATED AND CHECKERED HISTORY WITH THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND BEYOND, FRANKLY. JAMES, MORE ON THAT IN A MOMENT. FIRST, I WANT TO GIVE YOU UPDATED NUMBERS OUT OF PENNSYLVANIA. WE HAVE GOTTEN MORE VOTES COUNTY COUNTED, MOSTLY FROM THE ALLEGHENY REGION WITH THEM ADDED IN, JOE BIDEN HAS EXPANDED HIS LEAD TO 27,130 VOTES IN PENNSYLVANIA. FOR MORE ON HOW THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN IS PLANNING THEIR NIGHT, THINKING ABOUT WHAT IS TO COME, LET’S GO TO JOYCE KOH, WHO IS LIVE IN WILMINGTON, DELAWARE. JOYCE? >> Reporter: HEY, LIBBY. BACK OUT HERE IN THE PARKING LOT, WHERE BIDEN SUPPORTERS HAVE GATHERED RIGHT OUTSIDE OF THE CHASE CENTER. ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS BARRICADED PERIMETER, WE ARE HEARING THAT BIDEN COULD BE SPEAKING AROUND 10:30 TONIGHT. I THINK WE HEARD FROM A TOP BIDEN AIDE EARLIER, HE THINKS THAT THE SPEECH WILL STILL HAPPEN , EVEN IF THE RACE IS NOT CALLED. WE ARE HEARING FROM SENATOR CHRIS OF DELAWARE EARLIER TODAY . HE WAS SAYING THAT HIS SOURCES TOLD HIM, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE PENNSYLVANIA WILL BE CALLED TONIGHT. THAT IS SORT OF THE INTERNAL–WHAT WE ARE HEARING INTERNALLY FROM THE CAMPAIGN. WE ARE ALSO TOLD THAT THIS SPEECH WILL LIKELY BE ABOUT THE PROGRESS THAT WAS MADE OVER

THE COURSE OF THE LAST 24 HOURS AND THE CONFIDENCE THAT THE CAMPAIGN HAD THAT THEY WILL SOON BE DECLARING VICTORY I ALSO HEARD FROM A SOURCE WHO WAS WAITING IN THE QUEUE OF CARS ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THIS PERIMETER, ABOUT 50 PLUS CARS WAITING TO HEAR IF THEY COULD GO IN HERE TONIGHT AND JOIN SORT OF THIS DRIVE IN RALEIGH THAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN HOLDING THOSE CARS WERE ALL TOLD TO GO HOME FOR THE NIGHT. THAT HAPPENED MAYBE ABOUT 15, 20 MINUTES AGO. WE ARE ALSO HEARING FROM THAT SOURCE THAT THE SPEECH WILL BE INDOORS, AT THE WESTIN BEHIND ME , AND THERE WILL BE NO AUDIENCE WITH THAT SAID, I WANT TO BRING IN A BIDEN SUPPORTER, ALLISON’S MYTH. ALLISON, YOU HEARD A LITTLE OF WHAT I JUST SAID ABOUT BIDEN’S SPEECH BEING LIKELY INDOORS, NOT TO AN AUDIENCE OUT HERE, HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT AND WHAT DO YOU WANT TO HEAR BIDEN SAY TONIGHT? >> IT IS A LITTLE DISAPPOINTING HONESTLY, TODAY WHEN WE WOKE UP AND SAW THAT GEORGIA FLIPPED IN OUR FAVOR AND AS THE DAY UNFOLDED IN PENNSYLVANIA, STARTED TO GO OUR WAY. MY FRIENDS AND I DECIDED WE WANTED TO COME OUT. WE HAVE BEEN ATTENDING BIG GROUPS LIKE THIS FOR THE LAST FOUR YEARS AND WE WENT TO THE WOMEN’S MARCH, PROTESTED THE MUSCLEMAN, WE WERE AT THE BLACK LIVES MATTER RALLIES COME AND IF WE HAD EVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO BE HERE TODAY IN CELEBRATION, WE WANTED TO BE HERE. EVEN IF WE DON’T GET TO HEAR THE VICTORY ANNOUNCED TONIGHT, IT IS SO GREAT TO BE AMONGST THIS ENERGY. IF WE DON’T HEAR FROM GEORGIA, PENNSYLVANIA, OR ARIZONA TODAY, I THINK JOE WILL STAY ON MESSAGE ABOUT BEING PATIENT AND STAY ON EVERY VOTE BECAUSE EVERYBODY DESERVES TO BE COUNTED . WE WILL CONTINUE TO BE PATIENT UNTIL WE GET THAT VICTORY CALL >> Reporter: WHAT DO YOU MAKE ABOUT THE PROCESS OF WAITING FOR THESE VOTES TO BE COUNTED. HOW HAVE YOU FELT AS A BOATER AND SUPPORTED A BIDEN, WAITING FOR THIS LONG PROCESS? A LOT OF PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WOULD BE GIVING A VICTORY SPEECH TODAY, THAT DOES NOT SEEM TO BE HAPPENING, SORT OF ADDING TO THIS CLIMACTIC ROLLER COASTER OF EMOTIONS YOU GUYS ARE FEELING >> I SORT OF HUNKERED DOWN EARLIER IN THE WEEK, KNOWING THIS WOULD BE A LONGER PROCESS BECAUSE OF COVID, BECAUSE OF THE MAIL-IN VALID SITUATION AND KNOWING EVERY STATE HAD DIFFERENT LAWS AND IT WAS GOING TO BE A LONG PROCESS. I HOPE THAT WE WILL KNOW BY THE END OF THE WEEK, I THOUGHT OF BEEN TELLING MYSELF WE MAY NOT KNOW FOR ANOTHER FEW WEEKS, HOPEFULLY SOONER THAN LATER >> Reporter: DO YOU THINK THAT IF THE CAMPAIGN IS PLANNING ON SPEAKING TONIGHT AND BIDEN GIVES THIS MESSAGE OF SORT OF REASSURING THAT WE WILL SOON HAVE A BIG THREE, THAT IS WHAT WE ARE HEARING FROM THE CAMPAIGN, DO YOU THINK THAT IS AN EFFECTIVE MESSAGE? HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL AS A SUPPORTER? >> I THINK IT IS EFFECTIVE. I DON’T THINK THERE IS MUCH WE CAN DO RIGHT NOW. THE VOTERS HAVE SPOKEN. WE ARE WAITING FOR OUR VOTES TO BE COUNTED. WE BELIEVE IN DEMOCRACY AND HAVE TO WAIT AND LET IT STAY ITS COURSE >> Reporter: I FORGOT TO ASK THE MOST OBVIOUS QUESTION, WHAT BROUGHT YOU OUT HERE TODAY? YOU CAN BE SITTING AT YOUR HOME IN NEW JERSEY, BUT YOU DECIDED TO COME OUT WITH A COUPLE OF FRIENDS, WHAT IS BEHIND YOUR MOTIVATION? >> LIKE I SAID, IF THERE WAS ANY CHANCE TO BE A PART OF THE CELEBRATION, WE WANTED TO BE A PART OF THE CELEBRATION. I THINK JUST IN GENERAL WE HAVE HAD A LOT OF NERVOUS ENERGY THIS WEEK, HAVING SOMETHING TO PUT THAT ON, A LITTLE ROAD TRIP AND BEING OUT HERE, AND I HAVE HEARD OTHER PEOPLE IN THE CROWD HERE SAY TONIGHT, IT IS JUST NICE TO BE AROUND LIKE-MINDED PEOPLE EVERYONE IS HAVING A GOOD TIME, PLAYING GAMES ON THEIR OWN, CHITCHATTING, IT IS A VERY GREAT ATMOSPHERE. EVEN IF WE DON’T GET THE VICTORY, IT IS NICE TO BE AROUND PEOPLE WHO BELIEVE IN WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN >> Reporter: SOUNDS LIKE BIDEN WILL BE SPEAKING INDOORS, HE WILL NOT BE OUT AT THAT STAGE THAT YOU CAN KIND OF SEE FROM THIS VANTAGE POINT. YOU GUYS ARE JUST HERE BECAUSE IT IS SOMETHING TO DO WHILE YOU WAIT? >> HONESTLY, WE HAVE HAD VERY LITTLE INFORMATION. WE SAW ON TWITTER THIS IS HAPPENING, SO WE SAID LET’S TAKE A CHANCE, COME ON OUT. WE’VE BEEN GETTING INFORMATION FROM THE CROWD, TWITTER, AND OTHER SOURCES I’M HOPING WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME IN. SINCE IT WILL BE INDOORS, NO HARM, NO FOUL. IT IS STILL A GOOD EXPERIENCE TO BE OUT HERE TO SHOW SUPPORT AND GET OUR ENERGY OUT >> Reporter: ARE YOU GOING TO BE HERE FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS? I WAS HEARING OTHER SUPPORTERS SAY THEY ARE GOING TO STAY IN THE AREA >> WE ARE PLANNING TO GO HOME TONIGHT. [ LAUGHTER ] IT IS ABOUT A TWO HOUR DRIVE FOR US, CERTAINLY NOT OFF THE TABLE TO COME BACK, THOUGH >> Reporter: SO IF YOU GIVES A SPEECH, YOU WOULD NOT MIND ON BEING ON THIS SIDE OF THE PERIMETER? >> NO, I THINK WE WILL SEE HOW IT GOES. IF WE KNOW IN ADVANCE, A DAY OR TWO FROM NOW, WE MIGHT TAKE ANOTHER TRIP DOWN, AGAIN, JUST TO BE ABLE TO HEAR HIS WORDS, ESPECIALLY WE HEARD TODAY THAT KAMALA WAS GOING TO SPEAK AS WELL. IT WOULD BE A SPECIAL EXPERIENCE >> Reporter: DO YOU HAVE ANY MESSAGE FOR THE OTHER SIDE OF THE POLITICAL PARTY, THE REPUBLICANS WHO ARE ALSO WAITING TO SEE WHAT THE RESULTS WILL BE

AND HAVING VERY DIFFERENT MESSAGES FROM THE PERSON THEY ARE VOTING FOR WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP YESTERDAY HAVING A SPEECH WHERE HE TALKED ABOUT THIS PROCESS OF BALLOT COUNTING AS A PROCESS THAT WAS CORRUPT, SAYING MAIL-IN WAS CORRUPT AND REALLY NOT GIVING ANY EVIDENCE. DID YOU HEAR THAT SPEECH, WHAT WERE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT, AND I AM CURIOUS WHAT YOUR THOUGHTS ARE TO PEOPLE THAT SUPPORT THE OPPOSITE POLITICAL PARTY AND CANDIDATE AS YOU? >> I DID NOT LISTEN TO HIS SPEECH, THOUGH I CAN IMAGINE WHAT HE SAID. I WOULD SAY THAT WE HAVE TO LET ALL OF THE VOTES BE COUNTED, THAT IS HOW OUR DEMOCRACY WORKS, IT IS WHAT IT IS FOUNDED ON. WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THE PEOPLE IN CHARGE OF THESE ELECTIONS ARE ALLOWED TO DO THEIR JOBS. I THINK IF, HOPEFULLY, THE OUTCOME IS THAT JOE BIDEN WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT, I HOPE THAT THE OTHER SIDE RECEIVES HIM WITH OPEN ARMS AND NOT ANY RESISTANCE OR VIOLENCE, AND REALLY ALLOWS HIM, AS HE SAID, TO BE THE AMERICAN PRESIDENT, NOT A DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT. AN >> Reporter: ALLISON, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND HAVE A SAFE TRIP BACK TO NEW JERSEY. LIBBY, WE WILL SEND THINGS BACK TO YOU AND OF COURSE BRING YOU ANY UPDATES AS WE GET THEM FROM THE BIDEN/HARRIS HEADQUARTERS. IT IS ALMOST 10:00 , SO WE SHOULD BE HEARING SOMETHING SHORTLY >> THANKS SO MUCH, JOYCE KOH , LIVE IN WILMINGTON. LET’S GO BACK TO JEREMY WHO IS HERE IN OUR NEWSROOM WITH THE LATEST FROM THE MAP >> WE GOT AN REALLY INTERESTING UPDATE FOR YOU, AS WE OFTEN TRY TO DO. THAT UPDATE IS IN THE STATE OF PENNSYLVANIA. A REMINDER OF WHY WE KEEP TALKING ABOUT PENNSYLVANIA TONIGHT, NOT JUST THAT WE ARE EXCITED ABOUT THE PORK AND BROCCOLI ROB SANDWICHES. IT IS PENNSYLVANIA HAS 20 ELECTORAL VOTES. IF YOU LOOK AT THE BOARD, IT IS OBVIOUS THOUGH 20 ELECTORAL VOTES WOULD TAKE JOE BIDEN FROM 253 TO 273, THAT WOULD BE ENOUGH TO END THE RACE FOR THE PRESIDENCY NATURALLY, WE ARE GLUED TO THAT STATE TO SEE WHAT IS GOING ON LET’S TAKE A LOOK AT PENNSYLVANIA AND WE JUST GOT AN A NEW BATCH OF VOTES, 9000 FROM ALLEGANY COUNTY . ALLEGHENY IS HOME TO THE CITY OF PITTSBURGH, ONE OF THE TWO URBAN COUNTIES IN PENNSYLVANIA, ACCORDING TO OUR RECKONING. IN THAT COUNTY, THERE WERE 9000 MILITARY AND OVERSEAS PERSONNEL PALLETS AVAILABLE TO BE COUNTED. THEY WORK THROUGH THOSE BALLOTS AND HAVE GIVEN US AN UPDATE. JOE BIDEN HAS ADDED TO HIS NUMBER NOW AS A RESULT OF THE HE HAS ADDED 5.5 THOUSAND TO HIS MARGIN, THAT PUTS THEM AT OVER 27,000 VOTE MARGIN OVER PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP, AND WITH HIM WITHIN A 10th OF A PERCENTAGE POINT OF RECOUNT TERRITORY. THIS IS CRITICALLY IMPORTANT. IN PENNSYLVANIA, WITHIN 5 OF A PERCENTAGE POINT, OR HALF OF A PERCENTAGE POINT, THAT WOULD BE ROOM FOR A RECOUNT IF THAT WERE TRUE. ONE OF THE THINGS WE ARE WATCHING FOR, WHETHER OR NOT JOE BIDEN CAN EXTEND HIS LEAD SO MUCH HE IS MORE THAN A HALF OF A PERCENTAGE POINT AHEAD OF DONALD TRUMP. ALLEGHENY HAS SOME ALMOST 30,000 EARLY BALLOTS THEY NEED TO COUNT. WE HAVE NOT STILL HURT THAT MUCH OUT OF THE CITY OF PHILADELPHIA, WHERE WE ARE EXPECTING A LARGE NUMBER OF EARLY AND SOME IN PERSON VOTE THERE AS WELL. THOSE ARE UPDATES WE WILL BE KEEPING OUR EYE ON TONIGHT, LIBBY AND WE WILL LET YOU KNOW IF WE GET ANYTHING ELSE. BACK TO YOU >>> LET’S GO BACK TO RHONDA COLVIN AND JAMES HOHMANN. I THINK THE QUESTION, DOES THE SUPREME COURT, JUSTICE ALITO, IN PARTICULAR, WEIGHING IN ON THESE MAIL BALLOTS IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT HAVE ARRIVED AFTER ELECTION DAY, THAT HAVE BEEN PUT ASIDE, SEGREGATED ALREADY , THAT HAD ALREADY HAPPENED DOES THAT ULTIMATELY IMPACT WHAT WE KNOW ABOUT A WINNER IN PENNSYLVANIA? I AM SEEING PEOPLE LIKE SEAN SPICER SAY ON SOCIAL MEDIA, THAT IS IT, PENNSYLVANIA CAN’T BE CALLED NOW, STOP THE PRESSES WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A SMALL NUMBER OF VOTES. EVERY VOTE IS VERY IMPORTANT, BUT WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE BIGGER PICTURE OF THE STATE >> Reporter: ABSOLUTELY, THAT IS WHY WHAT WE JUST HEARD FROM JEREMY ABOUT GETTING OUTSIDE OF THE RECOUNT MARGIN IS SO SIGNIFICANT. IF BIDEN IS UP SAY, 40,000 VOTES AS MORE NUMBERS COMING FROM PHILADELPHIA, IT REALLY DOES JUST ME IF A JUDGE, WORST CASE FOR BIDEN, THROUGHOUT 5000 OF HIS VOTES, HE IS STILL GOING TO BE COMFORTABLE. IF HE IS OUTSIDE OF THE RECOUNT MARGIN, HE WILL NOT HAVE TO WORRY ABOUT THE RECOUNT. HALF PERCENTAGE POINT IS NOT INSIGNIFICANT. I THINK THAT IS ONE OF THE REASONS YOU HAVE SEEN HESITATION TO CALL THE STATE. THAT IS SOME CONSIDERATION, BUT WE DO KNOW FROM EARLIER TODAY, THE PENNSYLVANIA SECRETARY OF STATE SAYING IT IS JUST A COUPLE OF THOUSAND THE FACT THAT THESE NUMBERS THAT WE JUST SAW FROM ALLEGHENY INCLUDE MILITARY BALLOTS, WHICH IN OUR CONVERSATION EARLIER THIS EVENING WITH MISSY RYAN, THERE WAS SOME SPECULATION ABOUT WHO

ARE ALL OF THESE TRUMP PEOPLE, WE WERE OBVIOUS WE TALKING ABOUT GEORGIA, AND FOR BIDEN TO GET FIVE AND HALF THOUSAND OUT OF THE 9000, IT SHOWS THAT THERE IS NOTHING COMING IN, UNLIKE ARIZONA, WHERE THE MARGIN TIGHTENED, BUT MAYBE NOT ENOUGH FOR TRUMP. NOTHING IS COMING IN SO FAR IN PENNSYLVANIA THAT WOULD DISABUSE US FROM WHAT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGNS KEEPS SAYING, THE NUMBERS OUTSTANDING ARE FAVORABLE TO THEM, COMING FROM GEOGRAPHICAL AREAS THAT WILL WORK TO THEIR ADVANTAGE. PEOPLE LIKE SEAN ARE JUST TRYING TO MUDDY THE WATERS, THEY ARE TRYING TO CAST DOUBT, DRAG THIS PROCESS OUT. THIS IS A PART OF THEIR STRATEGY FOR THE TRIUMPH OF THIS INFORMATION THAT DOES NOT MEAN IT IS TRUE >> RHONDA COLVIN, MEANWHILE, LET ME READ TO YOU THE TOP OF THE STORY IN THE WASHINGTON POST. THE NATION REGISTERED MORE THAN 100,000 NEW CORONAVIRUS INFECTIONS ON FRIDAY, A THIRD CONSECUTIVE SINGLE DAY RECORD RHONDA, THIS IS JUST–SOME OF THE NUMBERS COMING OUT OF STATE ARE STAGGERING. THIS CONTINUES TO BE A CRISIS IN MANY PARTS OF THE COUNTRY. OF COURSE, FOR THE COUNTRY OVERALL >> THAT IS RIGHT, IT REALLY IS THAT BIG STORY THAT IT CONTINUES ON. WE SORT OF, I THINK THE NATION, BECAUSE WE ARE WAITING FOR SOME SORT OF RESULT HERE IN THIS ELECTION, WE MAY BE TAKING OUR EYE OFF OF IT. I KNOW WE AT THE WASHINGTON POST CONTINUE TO REPORT ON IT. THE NUMBERS ARE STILL STAGGERING. YOU LOOK AT A STATE LIKE PHILADELPHIA, THEY HAVE RECORDS TODAY IN TERMS OF HOW MANY CASES THEY HAVE AND THAT IS ACROSS THE BOARD THAT IS NEXT DOOR IN OHIO, OHIO HAS NOT BEEN HAVING HIGH NUMBERS AS WELL. WE ARE SEEING HOSPITALS AND STATES HAVE MORE AND MORE PATIENTS WHERE THEY ARE CREEPING TOWARD CAPACITY. IT LOOKS LIKE WHAT THE SCIENTISTS AND THE DOCTORS HAVE BEEN SAYING FOR THE LAST FEW WEEKS, THAT WE ARE HEADING INTO A POTENTIALLY DIFFICULT WINTER, WHERE WE ARE JUST GOING TO CONTINUE TO SEE SPIKES AND DESIRE IS NOT CONTROLLED IN A WAY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DID SAY BACK IN THE SPRING, EVERYONE WOULD BE BACK IN THEIR CHURCHES ON EASTER, NOW WE ARE HEADING INTO THANKSGIVING AND CHRISTMAS AND WE ARE SEEING SOME STATES TIGHTEN BACK UP. AND SOME ARE THINKING ABOUT TIGHTENING BACKUP. THIS IS SOMETHING, OF COURSE, BIDEN HAS CAMPAIGNED ON AND TALKED ABOUT LAST WEEK, HE TALKED ABOUT HIS SEVERAL POINT PLAN TO TRY TO GET THE VIRUS UNDER CONTROL. YESTERDAY, HE MENTIONED HE AND SENATOR HARRIS WERE IN BRIEFINGS ON THE VIRUS THEY KNOW THIS IS SOMETHING THEY ARE ALSO INHERITING. THEY ARE ALSO INHERITING A DIVIDED NATION AND YOU HAVE MANY PEOPLE THAT DON’T BELIEVE WE SHOULD BE WEARING MASKS AND TAKING PRECAUTIONS ANYMORE AND ARE BELIEVING SOME OF THE RHETORIC THE PRESIDENT HAS SAID IN HIS RALLIES THE LAST FEW DAYS, GOING LIVE YOUR LIFE, DON’T BE AFRAID POTENTIALLY, IF THERE IS A BIDEN/HARRIS WIN, THEY WILL BE INHERITING THAT TYPE OF SENTIMENT. WHAT WILL THEY DO WITH THAT, IT HAS SORT OF BEEN BAKED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AND MONTHS ON PEOPLE WHO THINK WE SHOULD BE DONE WITH THIS AND SEEING A PRESIDENT WHO HAS THANKFULLY GOTTEN THROUGH HIS DIAGNOSIS OF THE CORONAVIRUS AND HAS BEEN PLAYING IT DOWN AS THOUGH IT IS NOT SOMETHING ANY OF US SHOULD BE WORRIED ABOUT ANYMORE. THE NUMBERS ARE STAGGERING, AND IT STILL IS THE LEADING STORY OF THE DAY FOR MOST AMERICANS >> AND YOU KNOW, JAMES, PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID DEMOCRATS WILL JUST START TALKING ABOUT THE STORY AS SOON AS THE ELECTION WAS OVER. HE SORT OF CHUCKED THIS UP TO FAKE NEWS AND SOMETHING BEING EXPLODED FOR POLITICAL GAIN. TRY TELLING THAT TO THE FAMILIES OF AMERICANS WHO DIED YESTERDAY, WHO DIED TODAY, WHO DIED ON ELECTION DAY, THE DEATH COUNT IS CONTINUING TO RISE, THE CASE TOTAL IS CONTINUING TO RISE IN THIS COUNTRY >> MORE THAN 1000 OF OUR FELLOW AMERICANS DIED TODAY, LIBBY THIS WEEK ALONE, WE WILL HAVE TWICE AS MANY DEAD AMERICANS AS WE HAD ON SEPTEMBER 11th

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