LBCCD Board Meeting – August 28, 2019

Good afternoon, everyone, we’re going to get started It’s 4:30 on the dot (gavel bangs) I’d like to call the regular meeting of the Board of Trustees to order Today is Wednesday, August 28th at 4:30, and we’re gonna have roll call, Madame Secretary, please? Here Vivian Malauulu? Here Uduak-Joe Ntuk? Doug Otto? Sunny Zia? Here All right, at this time, are there any public comments on closed session items? Madame Secretary, did anyone submit a– There are none, there are no comments All right, thank you very much We are going to go into item 1.4, which is a conference with Real Property Negotiators pursuant to government code 54956.8 And then after that, we’ll go into item 1.5, personnel, pursuant to government code section 45957 At this time, we will recess to closed session, thank you All right (gavel bangs) All right, if everyone can please take your seats, we’d like to get started, it’s 5:35, and we’d like to start on time, please, welcome, everyone All right, so we’re gonna jump right into item 2.1, reconvene open session, it is now 5:35 I’d like to call this regularly scheduled meeting to order, and Student Trustee Donnell Jones, welcome We’ve missed you, can you please lead us in the flag salute? Sure, thank you, please stand Place your right hand over your heart, ready, begin – [Group] I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the republic for which it stands, one nation, under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all Thank you, Madame Secretary, could you please take roll? Virginia Baxter? Here Vivian Malauulu? Here Uduak-Joe Ntuk? Here Doug Otto? Here Sunny Zia? Here And Donnell Jones? Here Okay, at this time, I’d like to report on closed session items, we did have two items during closed session, and one of those items has to be continued to a second closed session, lucky us, at the end of this meeting So with regard to item 1.4, conference with our attorneys regarding Real Property Negotiations, the board met with its legal counsel in closed session, pursuant to government code section 54956.8, direction was provided to the district’s legal counsel And with regard to item 1.5, personnel, we will continue that in a second closed session at the conclusion of this meeting At this time, we will have public comment on agenda items, and we do have five speakers So if you can kindly line up there at the podium when I call your name, that would be awesome Susan Trask, Anita Tushnet, Steve Asken, Thomas Hamilton, and Rena Ping Welcome, please state your name and the item that you are here to speak on (Susan mumbles) I’m gonna take a pause – [Virginia] Is your mic on? Pardon? – [Virginia] Is your mic on? Yeah, okay, 4.12 I’ve written this little, what am I gonna say, about 500 times since last Friday I support you all, love you all, you’re all passionate, Sunny and Vivian, equally passionate, different ways I know you’re both dedicated to the campus, the students, the community, and what’s going on just breaks my heart, it hurts deeply And so I just have some questions, I know you can’t answer them now,

but maybe they’ll be brought up later What exactly does censoring mean, and what does it entail? Has it happened before at Long Beach City College, and how long is it in effect for? How does this affect accreditation, our students, staff, and community? I just want to say that I’m sure that we’re all different, there’s a lot of truths here, there’s a lot of different faiths and religions and way of being, we all hear things differently But I think we all come here with a common purpose, and that’s to do the best we can for our students, and the College has just been wonderful these last few years under Dr. Romali’s loving, kind ways, and it’s just, I was so excited, and then this crash happened So I’m just hoping that we can take this opportunity that this crisis has brought us to and show people how to make amends and work together, even when we have differences, thank you Thank you, next speaker, please My name’s Anita Tushnet, and I’m very short So I’m here to speak on item 4.12 I actually watched the entire board meeting I was doing other things during most of it, but I did tune in, and my impression was that it began with an honest effort to clarify something very confusing, and it was confusing, and then it went off the rails I think censure is an extreme statement to make about anyone, particularly, again, I’ve read the letters, both from both sides, and I know that Trustee Zia has asked to apologize, and to take any training that is required, and also to participate in a full board retreat Watching the dynamic of the board, I think the full board retreat is what should be done, and I think censure should be taken off the table, and you should work in private with a facilitator to resolve what seem to be pretty deep differences that sort of pop up in weird ways during a meeting So please vote against censure, and go into a board retreat with a facilitator, thank you Thank you very much, next speaker, please Hi, my name is Steve Asken I’m also here to speak about item 4.12 I appreciate what the previous speaker said, but I am gonna add something that relates to the legal obligations of each of the five board members I’m an LBCC parent, I’m also a member of the LBUSD Special Ed Advisory Committee, and as a parent, I really wish that the main reason I was here was to thank this great board for reinstating career education and for providing excellent support for disabled students However, unfortunately, I’m here instead with a lesson in English language and constitutional law regarding Trustee Malauulu’s motion to censure a fellow trustee for blasphemous behavior And saying I’m here to teach a little bit about that, I am neither an English teacher nor a lawyer, so I’m a layperson speaking about this But first the English language, Merriam-Webster defines blasphemy as the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God, not for another human being A Jew quoting the Christian scriptures during an argument might have been censured or worse for blasphemous behavior, which is what the resolution leads off with, in medieval Europe, but never in America today Second, the constitution, the Supreme Court, and I’m gonna urge each of you to look at this before you vote, if this resolution remains on the floor, the Supreme Court long ago ruled very specifically that the leaders of an education agency, in this case, it was the Education Commissioner of the state of New York, may not, in the course of official business, act against something called blasphemy I brought for each trustee copies of the relevant US and California Supreme Court decisions to read before you vote, if there’s somebody I can hand this to, each of you can have a copy Now, in the modern world, I want you to think about this,

in the modern world, only theocracies, such as the land of Trustee Zia’s birth, Iran, ever take action against a supposed offense for blasphemous behavior So I’m here to ask two things, and specifically, I’m addressing this primarily to the Board President, and also to Trustee Zia First, for the Board President, you need to rule out your own motion, you need to recognize that it’s out of order as an offense against the first amendment, which unfortunately is what it is, though I know you didn’t intend that Second, you and Trustee Zia and the rest of the board should sit down with each other in private, apologize to each other if necessary, and get back to the work for which I very much thank both of you, namely continuing to make sure that our City College remains an outstanding provider of career education Thank you very much, next speaker, please Good evening, President Malauulu and President Romali, Board of Trustees, and guests My name is Thomas Hamilton, I’ve been, I worked in the College for 20 plus years, and during those years of service with the College, the priority has always been students’ success And I think that maybe we’ve got off track, as far as what it is our priority is because we all know that if we didn’t have any students, none of us would be here today And let’s just look at the things that we’ve accomplished lately, we’ve had an increase enrollment, we’ve had the largest graduation class in years After the debacle in 2013 with the discontinuance, we’ve now reimplemented (mumbles) back to the College And one of the big things, as far as on a personal matter, is that College Day was held at the PCC campus this year And adding to that, and now the possibility of having free two year college education for students is the cherry on the top, or the whipped cream, okay? When we’re focused on the job at hand that we’re supposed to do, these are the things that we’ve accomplished in less than a year So my question to you tonight is, is what we’re doing tonight serve the best interests of our students and the community, and the public that live within the community, thank you Thank you very much, next speaker, please Hi, I have to read from a script ’cause I have ADD and I tend to veer off, hi (mumbles) Hi, President Trustee Malauulu, trustee board members, President awesome Romali, VPs, and Senate My name is Rena Ping, while I am an employee (mumbles) for LBCC, today I speak as a constituent of area three I reside at 700 East Ocean Boulevard, 90802 There’s no party afterwards, guys I contemplated about speaking up in regards to an article that came from the Long Beach Post August 23rd I was actually at this board meeting, and it was one of the rare ones that I actually attended, and I was like, whoa, and I don’t, I’m outspoken, but I don’t really get involved, so I’m here tonight ’cause I want to get involved So this is in regards to August 23rd, the post that went out ’cause now it’s public, and now I feel like, okay, the public should be informed and I like that because I feel like if you don’t know the information, you can’t make an informative decision to go forward and then continue on with your own decision So this is in regards to board members’ behaviors and treatments of others The leadership on the dais sets the tone for the level of professionalism at LBCC You’re our pretty and smart faces that represent your constituents and what the community sees in regards to the LBCC The cattiness, the bullying, the quid pro quo, the one up is not a good look for you at our college, and you guys lead by example, and I’ve been here for 15 years, I trust you guys I started as a student, and I’m still gonna go forward, all right? So if this is how you conduct business, how do you expect your employees to meet the goals of the college and student success if no one believes in teamwork, professionalism, and self discipline? And that applies to every one of us in here I used to be proud of this dream team and would say, “If they made baseball cards for public officials, “I definitely would want an autographed card “of each trustee,” and I still do, because I believe that what you guys will choose is reflection

over retaliation, right? I implore you to self reflect in regards to why you choose to be a public official and continue to serve hard, altruistically, kind, professional, truth seeking, (mumbles), and the right, even if others will be disappointed And thank you for serving us, it’s no easy task, and I thank you for your time, and I hope for the positive change, thank you Thank you very much, thank all of you for your comments, and thank you all for being here today, we do listen, and we do appreciate you being here At this time, we’re gonna go to item 2.6, approval of minutes of the July 24th, 2019 regular Board of Trustee minutes So moved All right, we have a motion and a second on the floor to approve those minutes, are there any discussions on the minutes? Is there any discussion? All right, all those in favor, please say aye Aye (overlapping chattering) Any opposed? Motion carries, we’d like to move onto item 2.7, Superintendent President report, Dr. Romali, take it away Thank you, Madame President, I’d like to recognize a wonderful professor who is retiring, she couldn’t join us today, Dr. Lynn Shaw, who’s been with us for 19 years She’s an electricity professor, a professor of kinesiology, an FA president, Director of Technology, Education, and an interim dean She’s also been a teacher at Cal State Long Beach, and she was on loan to the Chancellor’s Office for a while, that’s how proudly she served us, so congratulations, Dr. Shaw I’d like to encourage you, another smash up job from Team Josh and Merinda Martin, and the whole, Stacy Tote, and the whole Communications Team You’ve got to pick up a Campus Community I want to encourage you to hear all the great news about Long Beach City College I want to welcome everyone back to the new year We are so glad to start this semester, and to get you in the right mood, we’re gonna cue up, what else at Long Beach City College? A couple of videos (upbeat guitar music) (gentle music) Uh oh, the sound Dario, we’re missing the sound (gentle music) Dario, we’re missing the sound on it (upbeat music) Yeah, (mumbles) try (upbeat music) (glitchy electronic music) (upbeat guitar music) Perhaps before we start the second one, we’ll do the slides while you’re working on the audio there, that’ll give you a chance, to buy us some time there Okay, great, before we get into the second one, we’ll give the team a chance to fix the audio ’cause it’s a super video, we want you to hear everything that is said I want to announce some wonderful things, President Malauulu, you teased it last night in a wonderful way We’ve got things that are totally incredible to tell you tonight, when we announced our graduation figures, we were purposefully conservative We looked at historical trends in fallout,

whether that be a grade failure or a grade change, and so we estimated a little low But we can now announce formally, now that the numbers are in it, we have the largest graduating class in LBCC history And if we go to the next, yes (audience applauds) Now, if we go to the next slide, you’re gonna see what that’s made up of We have an increase in ADT awards by approximately 29% In ’16/’17, we had 753, last year, we increased it to 961, or it increased 28% This year, we increased it to 1,243, an increase of 29% Now, what makes that particularly meaningful is that’s a 26% increase in degree attainment for Hispanic Latino students, it’s a 41% increase in degree attainment for African American students, and an 11% increase for Asian students Now, this is absolutely tremendous I would challenge anyone to look at that kind of a track record nationwide, it’s absolutely unheard of You’ll see movement in the single digits What this is is this is the entire team, Long Beach City College coming together, classified, faculty, senates, unions, administrators, our community, our Board of Trustees coming together for one goal only This is the number that I judge my performance by, what is my job? To get students across the stage What is our job, to get students across the stage How we do it might be a little different, we might have different jobs, but we have the same goals So I’m so excited by this On the next slide, we’ve had other successes If you look at the total number of associates degree awards, you will see that we have increased 25%, another unheard of number In ’16/’17, we had 683, we went down a smidge in ’17/’18, 23 to a negative 3%, in ’18/’19, we went up 25% But what’s blowing it all out of the water is our certificates, we increased 397% We started in ’16/’17 with 219, a small increase in ’17/’18 for 4%, but, well, non believers, here we go, we increased 1,195 certificates last year for an increase of 397% So that’s just absolutely unheard of (audience applauds) We are on a rock and roll train, and we are not stopping until we achieve world domination (audience laughs) I’m not competitive But we did it, all within, we settled three union contracts peaceably, that were happy with our unions and our board On the next slide, you will see that we also saved LBCC a potential cut to our budget of 10.7 million with extreme and heavy lobbying of Sacramento with my colleagues, and all of the people that helped, Jeff Wood, you were instrumental in this savings I like to call you the 10 million dollar man We also, Mrs. Drinkwine, you’re the 11 million dollar woman and the six million dollar woman, and maybe that makes you bionic We decreased the 11 million dollar deficit from last year, the six million dollar operating deficit for this year generated six million dollars in positive fund balance, without any layoffs, and without any ranker Now, I’m not saying that those budget cuts were fun, and everybody just was singing and dancing, but we did it as a team Now, this upcoming academic year, on the next slide, is so exciting, it’s getting off to a great start We had a fantastic College Day at PCC, highest attendance that we’ve had so far The tour of the trades was phenomenal We are up in enrollment for the first time since fall of, I believe ’16 or ’15, 5.7% This is an incredible team effort from virtually everyone within the organization There has been no stone left unturned with our improvements to our organization We opened, we are gonna be groundbreaking soon on our PCC parking structure that’s absolutely gorgeous, and we used savings from this year’s State of a College event technology expenses to fund the seeding of an opening of a Multicultural Office and an Office of Basic Needs that will serve our students who are hungry and who have transportation needs, thanks to members of this board who came forward with ideas for transportation, and for housing,

and for our homeless students And last but most certainly not least, the trades are back, I want to thank Jean Carbonaro, Anthony Pagon, and the whole team for putting together a tremendous, they redesigned every single curriculum We’ve got new curriculum in electrical technology, welding technology, advanced automotive technology, advanced manufacturing, you name it This is the place to be, in case it’s not just dramatically obvious Viking Football, well, they’re not gonna allow something to happen around here without them doing something, right? They’re kicking off on September 14th I want you to be at that home opener against Mount Sac Guess what, students, faculty, staff, and a guest, you’re going for free, the game starts at six Congratulations to Cordoba Corporation’s Terrance DeGray, we all know him and love him, he is the recipient of the Construction Management Association of America’s Medi Hidari CCM of the Year Award We’re excited that our own team members are being recognized on a national level We want to welcome our new foundation director and thank our Foundation for the wonderful selection of Paul Comenski, who was recently selected as the executive director Don’t forget, September 10th, there is a Long Beach Community Job Fair from 10 to two at Vet’s Stadium We’re gonna be hosting over 100 direct hire employers Guess what, there’s gonna be over 2,000 job seekers there, get there, get a job Now, we’re gonna bring up one last video, I think we might have some luck with the audio, Dario? (upbeat piano music) How cute (upbeat guitar music) (gentle music) So we’re out today on the first day of school, first day of classes here at Long Beach City College, and we are excited, so we’re gonna just get out and take a look and see what’s going on, making sure that our students here, our new student Vikings are very well taken care of Let’s see what happens Hi, so first day, what do you think so far? I think it’s really nice, I like how it’s really clean I was just looking for a nearby college, and I saw that it’s really nice, and the environment looks really friendly, so I decided to apply here So the Outreach Department is here to help all of our students with our Ask Me Booths on both campuses, so it’s definitely a place to stop and really get all your questions answered Hey, let me ask you something, what, Ask Me, what do you do for the campus on the first day, how does this work? It was just a way of getting the students who need direction to say, “Hey, let’s ask him,” and so that’s what we do What advice would you give a first time enrollee, and or a returning student? Yeah, I would say that this is the first day of the rest of your life, we believe in you, you have a full campus community supporting you So don’t hesitate to stop to ask any of us, and on the faculty or staff, we want to make sure that you’re gonna be successful Anything else you want to add? Definitely take a breath, it may seem overwhelming, but as long as you’re breathing and you’re sure of your steps, you should be fine – [Host] Is there anything else you would like to add? Go Vikings I would like to say, go Vikings (audience cheers) (upbeat music) Yay (audience applauds) That was great (audience applauds) Thank you so much, Dario, you’re awesome So I just want to say thank you to everyone, to our community, to our board, to our faculty, classified staff, our CHI, I see Karen out there in the audience, our administrators All of this happens because of you We’re going to focus on student success this year, like we do every year, I’m so excited And I’m getting all kinds of texts from the football team right now, so I’m laying down the gauntlet to Coach Peabody to bring home a win on September 14th So let’s bring it on home, go Vikings, and that concludes my report, Madame President That was an awesome report, thank you very much, and I’m glad you replayed it ’cause I was gonna ask you once we got the audio to replay it again So I would like to comment on Jerome’s journalistic debut

I know Jerome is on the back, working the screen, so he’s not gonna turn it into a selfie, but when you see him around campus, it’s customary for the camera person to stay behind the scenes, it’s very unusual to have the camera person go out into the field with a microphone and ask such excellent questions, Jerome, so great job, you make us very proud Thank you very much Dr. Romali, I have one question on slide six of your report, is it possible to bring that slide back up? Okay, I just have a question, I don’t see it on my screen, I don’t know if it’s, Dario, is it coming up? – [Reagan] Is that the one, the upcoming year? I think it’s slide six, let’s see Yes, so I have a question regarding the opening of the Multicultural Office, the funding You mentioned that that was, and by the way, if you missed the State of the College event that we had in July, you missed a very special event We’ve talked about it at the July meeting, but you mentioned that that was funded through savings from State of the College? I just want some clarity, is the Foundation still funding the State of the College? Yes, they absolutely are, they have been a tremendous, tremendous supporter of the college Typically in the past, the Foundation has been extremely generous with us, and they’ve given us approximately $50,000.00 for the State of the College We wanted to challenge ourselves this year, we wanted to be able to save the Foundation the money so that they could then drive that money back into student success, which they’re so wonderful at doing So we challenged ourselves to get down under that $50,000.00 number, and I made a commitment out of my funds that anything we saved, I was gonna put towards, out of my account in the college, toward the opening of the Multicultural Office and Office of Basic Needs So that kept us inspired when we were getting very tight with our pencil, and it allowed the Foundation to use a couple bucks fewer to drive that back towards students, and we’re super proud of that Okay, so just to be clear, the Multicultural Office and the Office of Basic Needs is being funded by the Foundation? No, it’s being seeded by the general fund, and it will be paid for from the general fund, and potentially some grand money, as well, perhaps seed equity dollars, as well Okay, got it, I just want to make sure we’re not putting the wrong information out there So the money that was saved by having a smaller, more intimate State of the College event is gonna stay with the Foundation, it’ll go back to the Foundation and remain there for the Foundation’s use, which typically, it’s scholarships and faculty scholarships, at staff request But the opening on the Multicultural Office and the Office of Basic Needs will come from Dr. Romali’s fund Either operational dollars, whether they be operational general fund dollars, or some, probably some money coming also from seed or equity dollars, a variety of places probably Okay, got it, thank you, thank you, thank you for clarifying that Sure All right, anyone else on Dr. Romali’s report? Yes, Trustee Malauulu, President Malauulu, I just want to make, leave this slide up, I want to make an observation I’m very pleased, and I’ll speak for myself, that we’re having an Office of Basic Needs But one of the things that drove Trustee Zia and I toward helping homeless students was the first couple of students we helped were in the electrical vehicle program, and that program was discontinued And so there’s a real correlation, I believe, between the trades and homeless students having opportunities And matter of fact, one of the young ladies that we helped, she’s actually working for Danny Tan at the Pacific Coast Campus, and she better be enrolled in those electrical vehicle classes She was in the regular automotive program So I just wanted to show that there was a correlation between the two, and I’m very pleased that we’re doing both Thank you very, very much, Dr. Baxter Anyone else on Dr Romali’s wonderful report, and those great, great numbers? All right, let’s move onto item 2.8, ASB President report, welcome We’ve been anxiously anticipating your first report Hello, hello, thank you very much, Madame Chair, and good evening to everyone I’d like to begin my report by reintroducing myself My name is Alyssa Tenesa Jones, and I am the new ASB President for the school year Firstly, on Friday, August 23rd, the ASB cabinet and I were able to attend College Day at PCC, and we’re happy and excited to visit the various trades that our school has to offer So thank you to Superintendent President Romali for the invitation to the rest of my cabinet I know they were really excited for it

This Monday kickstarted our fall semester, and we’re currently hosting our Week of Welcome to help our students get acclimated to the new semester These past two days, many of us cabinet members were at both campuses, handing out coffee and donuts to help introduce ourselves and get the word out for our upcoming special elections With all of that being said, I’d like to end my report by saying that my cabinet and I are excited to have started the school year not only as students, but also as leaders, thank you Thank you very much I know that you have previously spoken to the board when you were introduced, so it was really nice to actually have a report of some of the activities, and I’m sure ASB is anxious to get started with the school year, and all the activities you have planned So welcome, we look forward to working with you We’re gonna move onto item 2.9, Trustee, Student Trustee Donnell Jones, your report, please? Thank you, welcome back, everybody Thank you for joining us this evening Thank you for those who came out and, again, for participating, as always We appreciate that Summer has been great I was really pleased to hear about the success of the Voyager Program here, and the work that is being done there for the British students coming in, as well as the opportunity for a lot of students to step us as peer mentors, and to work with some of our incoming students I think that’s a really great opportunity to help our incoming students get acclimated, but also our students that are here kind of step up and take on some leadership, and to earn some income in the process I think that was a tremendous idea Also, I wanted to report back, my summer in Purdue University conducting research, I had a great opportunity to work with Dr. Patricia Bowling, who works in policy research, and together, I was able to put together, we were able to put together research design that looked at the issue of food insecurity, and specifically, for me, my interest is looking at food insecurity and how it’s experienced by our students within the community college sector, which seems to be missing from the literature So I’m excited to see that going forward, especially with all the changes that we have been making here to address this issue with the Food Pantry and the Homeless Task Force going forward So I’m hoping that the research that I do going forward will be able to help contribute to those efforts, to make sure that all of our students are served equally and equitably And in closing, I had the opportunity to attend College Day and the Week of Welcome, and I’m looking forward to doing more and advocating on behalf of our students moving forward Very good, thank you, Student Trustee Donnell Jones Item 2.10, LBCCFA Bargaining President report, welcome Hello, everyone Board President Malauulu, board members, President Superintendent Romali, and others This week is the first week of the academic year There has been a palpable energy and excitement on campus by students, faculty, and the campus community College Day was a true celebration, a culmination of everyone’s hard work Enrollment is up, recruitment, but in particular, from the high schools with full-time student enrollment, and graduation rates have increased I would like to acknowledge that none of this could have been done without the hard work of our campus community, and the leadership of our President Superintendent Dr. Romali, everyone pulling together for our students Faculty has been hard at work all year trying to redesign course work to meet the requirements of AB705, math boot camps were created to assist students during the summer Counselors were teaching orientation and career exploration classes, and how could I not mention but my personal favorite, the trades are back? All of this took time, devotion, and the professionalism of faculty and others Now faculty is excited to implement the fruits of their work, and inspire our students Last May, we were pleased to have 33 faculty enter the ranks of tenured status, and have had the pleasure of hiring 14 new faculty members FA offered presentations to the new faculty at their orientation, and is busy engaging our faculty, new and old, in leadership positions, giving a direct voice

in how faculty success is student success I would now like to introduce Dr. Alma Bochua, who is in her second year at the college, and is the probationary faculty representative, and holds a seat on our Executive Board Alma’s position requires her to reach out to our new faculty and assist them in any way she can in helping them to be successful She will attend a few College Culture Fridays, sharing her experience of her first year at Long Beach City College, and explaining the steps of the tenure review process from the faculty perspective So now, let me introduce Dr. Alma Bochua, from the Anthropology Department, and our probationary faculty rep Thank you, good evening, everybody Dianne just wants me to tell you a little bit about myself, in terms of, well, you already know my department is anthropology Some of the classes that I teach are our most popular, magic, witchcraft, and religion, and cultural anthropology, I’m a cultural anthropologist by trade I’ve taught several places back east, before I came to the west, I taught at Howard University, University of Maryland in Baltimore County, Purdue University, DePaul University, which is a small liberal arts college Then I was called to community college, and I went to Arizona, and I taught at Paradise Valley Community College, which is part of a 10 year community college Maracopa System And then I made up my mind, I don’t want cold weather anymore, so it’s either gonna be California or Arizona, and Arizona wasn’t working, so when I saw this job, I applied, and that was the best thing that ever happened to me I mean, I’m not telling you just because this is your school, but this is the best place for me to be because I’m committed to colleges that are about student-centered environments That’s what I like, I like dealing with students and the whole education process Now, Dianne wants also for me to tell you how I got interested in anthropology It was actually through an archeological project in New York, very close to the World Trade Center some years ago, and it was called the African Burial Ground Project And during the process of building a government office, at 290 Broadway, very close to Wall Street, they did a historical investigation and found out that it had been an African burial ground, a burial ground for people of African descent during the 1700s, from 1703 to 1794 Well, once they found out that it had been in use, they had to do a core sample, they found intact burials There had been at least 10 to 20,000 people of African descent buried there in the 1700s And then they did a full excavation, and part of my job was to do public education, very similar to teaching, where we talked about the history, we kept the project going, and now it is a national historic monument right now And that’s what really got me into anthropology And I had to go back to school, I had to just switch careers, and it was probably the best thing I ever did So thank you for listening, and glad to be here Thank you very much, thank both of you (audience applauds) All right, we’ll go to item 2.11, the AFT bargaining report, there you go Thank you, welcome Thank you, Madame President, and Board of Directors, and Superintendent Romali, and others We wanted to say we were really happy to be working with Dr. Romali in her (mumbles) course for race and equity, we feel this is a positive step for all the employees for the college, to have faith in a good workforce and environment to work in We also think this’ll also benefit the student population, as well, since we all know we have a very diverse population So any kind of training, the staff, and the whole college get, it ends up being for our students in the longterm I also wanted to bring up, on a minor note,

that the AFT Union always supports benefits for all our employees I know you have an item coming up later, I just wanted to say that AFT supports all members of the people that work for the college to have health insurance and health benefits, and we want to support that as much as we can through all our (mumbles) Thank you, have a good evening Thank you very much, item 2.12, the Certificated Hourly Instructor bargaining report, welcome Good evening, Superintendent President Romali and Board President Malauulu, Board of Trustees, and guests I want to start off first with a great big thank you to Dr. Scott We had an amazing part-time faculty orientation, and as you know, last year Dr. Scott decided that it would be best to have as many part timers presenting on a panel as possible And that is just a really great idea, it’s so wonderful to be in a venue where we’re hearing from our own part-time faculty about what they’re doing in their classes So, and thank you for being so inclusive of CHI, as well, thank you As you’ve probably heard, we’re going through a bit of a transition right now, I am stepping down I’ve stepped down, I’m trying to step down. (laughs) (audience laughs) And we’ve extended the CHI Executive Board elections into the fall to give all part-time faculty an opportunity to become members of CHI, and to put their name forward in the nomination process So we will be having an election But I think for those of you who taught part time know this is just part of, part timers are not here a lot on campus, so what the union is doing is not always right on their radar So we’re gonna, we have a few people that I think are very interested, so just be patient with us because I definitely think that we will have a regular report to the board as soon as the dust settles from everything But I do want to reassure you that CHI is still a viable union, and we are here to support all our part-time faculty as reps with whatever is going on, and I just want to reassure you about that We are communicating with our members on a regular basis, as well So as you know, we are currently in negotiations with the district, and also working with the district on a few issues, as we do There was a great turnout of part-time faculty at the College Day CHI meeting, and that was really great, to see everybody turn out I’m gonna say, though, that there was one issue in particular that was really on everybody’s mind, they didn’t need any prompting from me at all, it just came out, and it was a big discussion And that has to do with the fact that we’re being asked to do mandatory trainings, sexual harassment update, without additional pay And so we discussed that, I assured them that CHI will continue working with the district on this issue, it’s not over yet, so for them to just hang in there Another issue coming to the forefront that we’re hearing about, and I don’t know if it’s true or not, and that is about classified staff being told they’re no longer going to be allowed to teach part time at LBCC We went through this several years ago, and I remember the chaos, and finally the dust settled, and it seemed like it was all going to be just fine So, I mean, I think this is a little bit frustrating to me because we all know the reality of the budget, the budgets are made on the backs of part-time faculty, we don’t have health benefits, we come and we go, for most of us, we’re working two or three jobs just to make ends meet, essentially And so I just think that if somebody’s working in a classified position, and they have their masters degree or a PhD, why not let them teach? And I understand that it is a higher rate of pay, I do understand that, and that’s probably one of the issues But I’m willing to guess, I’m just guessing, I don’t know for sure, that the combined income of a classified job, plus the teaching at a higher rate,

is still probably less than the average income of full-time faculty I know it’s less than administrative pay So I’m just here to kind of say, hopefully we can think outside the box about this when it comes to treating employees equitably, and with their pay, and so on And speaking of that, there was a classified employee who teaches part time, Deidre Chernell, who could not make it tonight because she’s teaching, and she asked me to read a statement She said, “Before President Oakley left, “he said it was a travesty “that classified staff had been taken out of the classrooms “because at one time, he was classified, “and he supplemented his income with part-time teaching “He was supportive of our classified staff “who had earned their graduate degrees “In fact, on this campus, “classified staff have always been encouraged “to grow and educate themselves “But for the district to decide once again “that we can’t teach part time is like coming up “against an invisible glass ceiling “Many people in our culture have to work two “and three jobs to make ends meet “In addition, they might belong to more than one union “Other college districts, like Los Angeles, “manages their dual assignments with no problem “because they care about not limiting the potential “and growth of their employees “I believe this is what a prized institution does “Choosing to balance the budget on those “who are the lowest wage earners “and the least powerful disunifies all of us “by creating obstacles, it is like saying “that classified staff can only serve in menial roles “at the institution that they have come to admire “Many are also minorities who are desperately needed “in the classroom, as we try to model “for our students what equity looks like “I hope you will reconsider this decision,” and that’s from Deidre Chernell, thank you Thank you, Karen, I’ll have you know, Karen, if I may, and I know it’s not another non-customary item for me to respond, but yesterday, we had a budget workshop It lasted almost four hours, and we were here last night, and one of the items we talked about was once again discussing office hours for adjuncts, so it is something that is on our radar, and it’s something that we’ve been working on And I know that you’ve been trying to step down for a long time, but it might be divine intervention that you just never can, so think about that Thank you, Karen All right, we’re gonna go to item 2.13, reordering of the agenda, are there any requests to reorder the agenda? All right, we’re gonna go to 3.1, board requests to Superintendent President, status updates and additional requests, Dr. Romali? Yes, I’d like to thank, in particular, Trustee Ntuk, who’s been very helpful, as we keep continuing to revise this and make it better and better, and what this does is each month, we bring forward to the Board of Trustees a status of board requests that are either pending or completed Last year, you will see a report that shows the completed board requests for last year, from 2018, 2019, we had a total of 33 requests, one tabled, and one canceled And so there were tremendous amount of achievements that the board achieved last year that I think they can be very, very proud of This year, we have the new requests, we have, for ’19, 2020 requests, and two complete so far, as we enter our new year So we wanted to let you know about these items We do need approval on these items to make sure that indeed they are the priorities that the board wishes to direct the Superintendent and staff to work on, and also, we continue to welcome improvements suggestions, as we look for ways to make it better and more informative Thank you very much, this is an action item and discussion, is there any discussion on Dr. Romali’s board request presentation? Trustee Otto? I at least have one question According to this, in the summer of 2018, I requested a Discover Long Beach event to be held in my district, and there was a report that was apparently sent out, and it’s 15 months later, and I still haven’t had one that’s scheduled, I think, so I wondered if there were other trustees in the same position I just noticed this when I read this this afternoon Good question, good question, I will check on that and get back to you I know that Marcia Parker, our senior director of communications and community partnerships, sent out a calendar, and that she was gonna schedule these and talk with each trustee

I will by all means find out where she is on that and get back to you Okay, great, and there was one other one that was, involved a request of mine, yeah The tracking number is 181939, it was also in the summer of ’18, and that was my request to prepare a score card that showed leading and lagging indicators as to how the college is faring against its strategic plan and enrollment management plan It says that there was a presentation made in December of 2019, is that a typo? It was, it was either December or January, I forget which one it was, but there was a presentation by Heather, she created a score card, Heather Van Volkenberg, and presented it at a board meeting – [Doug] Okay, so, but– I’ll see if I can get a copy of that Yeah, but it wasn’t, it’s not upcoming, it’s already been– It’s already done, and our plan, you’re gonna see tonight on an upcoming board agenda, and this was actually your wonderful idea, the scorecard, in an upcoming agenda, you’re gonna see a calendar of proposed presentations over the next year, and we liked your idea so much and it went so well that we’re gonna do it again with even more improvements for next year as a regular thing, and we’ll do it at the end of each year to see how we did, good, better, otherwise, at the end of each year, and you’ll see one of those on the calendar for tonight Yeah, and then lastly, ’18/’19, 045, was a request to explore, with the Foundation, the possibility that they fund student success initiatives, and it says that in March, you went to the Executive Committee, and the Foundation agreed to fund 35 $1,000.00 scholarships What kind of activities are those? Yes, John Philpa was in charge of that subcommittee of the Foundation, and what happened is the Foundation took a number of applications, and there were a variety of different objectives for submitted by faculty and staff, they did send me a chart so that I could vote on it, and what I did is I picked the ones that I thought were the most interesting And they did award them, but I haven’t gotten the award sheet yet, so I don’t know who the winners were I don’t want to announce them unless they maybe weren’t in the winning pile, but I will be happy to see if we can get that and provide that to you – [Doug] Great, okay, thank you Okay, thank you, Trustee Baxter, and then Student Trustee I just wanted to report that my area event, I just pulled it up on my calendar, hold on a second, my phone went to sleep It went to sleep so much, it isn’t recognizing me Here we go, my event is Wednesday, October 16th So I don’t know, Trustee Otto, if I’m the first, but I’m saying that in public because I know Josh is gonna start working on it right now, so So we have been scheduled, I just don’t know when yours is Thank you, Student Trustee? Hi, just two really quick questions First, thank you, Superintendent President Romali, for addressing the two issues that I did bring up here It looks like the first one, regarding the guide for our homeless student resources was taken care of and completed I had a question regarding the second request made in March of 2019, it looks like, and excuse me if this question has already been answered, I just didn’t see anything, so if it’s already been answered, please disregard So 2027 and 2005, it looks like they are on the agenda for action tonight – [Reagan] Yes I just had a question, what happened with the suggested update to the academic, the administrative regulations 7000 section .6? – [Reagan] Which one was that, do you remember– Regarding the parking for the students, specifically regarding if we can make any updates to allow overnight parking for our students, and I wasn’t sure if that– Which, do you have a number? – [Donnell] It’s regulation 7000 Or do you have a number of the request? It is ’18/’19, 47 47? Yeah, third from the bottom Yes, it was, the legal opinion had been sought, and we brought those to the first reading at the May Board of Trustees meeting, and that motion ANR 7000, are you referring to ANR 7000.6? Correct It was provided for information, the BP 2027, the motion failed, 2005, changes were recommended, and it has been brought back Right, so yeah, I see that those, 2005 and 2027 are both on the agenda for this evening, but I didn’t see any update for 7000.6 Was that addressed in another meeting, or?

06, Gene, do you know anything, want to make? – [Gene] I do not recall that, and that process would have to go through PLC first before it comes back to the board, so we’d have to check to see where we are with that Any changes to regulations would go to the President’s Leadership Council first, and I’m not sure where we are in that process, but we can find out And I’ll find out if it was on the board agenda I’m showing it is complete, which means it would have either come to the agenda, or it came to the agenda and failed, so I’ll see if I can get that answer tonight, at tonight’s meeting – [Donnell] And if we could, thank you Thank you, any other questions or comments for Dr. Romali? Okay, so this is an action item, Dr. Romali, would you have us adopt or accept the list, or what would you have us do? What is the recommendation of staff? Is it your recommendation, Mr. Lipton, that they have a vote to approve it? And then in the meantime, we’ll get their question answered on the, the question that Student Trustee had? Yes, that would be appropriate, if that was the board’s pleasure, to adopt or accept the material as presented by Dr. Romali Okay, so I don’t think a motion to approve it would be in order, right, ’cause it is a fluid document and it’s changing, so to adopt it or to accept it, which is, do you have a preference? Probably to accept it, meaning that’s basically the board has received it, and there hasn’t been any other dissent or comments about it, other than what was presented orally by the board, so I would recommend, if it was the board’s pleasure, to accept it Okay, thank you very much, Mr. Lipton, Trustee Ntuk? Yeah, looking through some of the, we used to have an agenda item where board members could ask to add an agenda item in the future that we no longer have on our agenda This is it, yeah, this is it And my understanding, in the past, at least in the fall semester of 2018, we took, we voted on a number of them So do we need to vote again, even though we’ve already voted to– I think you are correct, in this motion, you can add additional requests It’s agenda, the status updates, and additional requests, so you may feel free, at your pleasure, to add items, and then if you want to add items, it needs, the action, Mr. Lipton, of at least three, correct, if they add items? But there are items on here that are new, so I think we’re gonna need action to get votes to approve this and any potential new ones that may come from the floor ‘Cause this is a report on the status, as well as any requests that have come in after the last board meeting, additional requests I’d like to make a, I’d like to make a distinction between the board making a request, on the one hand, and requesting an item be placed on the agenda And they are actually are two separate things In response to Trustee Ntuk’s comment, any trustee can request to have an item placed on the agenda for action, and that actually doesn’t need to be on the agenda, under the Brown Act, any trustee at any board meeting can ask for an item to be placed on a future agenda But that’s different if the request is to have staff write a report or engage in some activity that’s gonna take some effort on the part of staff, and if that’s the case, that also could be a future agenda item, but that would require a vote of the board I guess, just clarifying, the board had previously voted on some of the items, I’m not sure which ones we did not vote on, and I don’t know if that’s delineated in the list It’s not, it’s not, but there are new ones on there So I do need a consensus to move forward with those – [Uduak-Joe] Okay Okay, so at this time, I’ll entertain a motion, whatever is the pleasure of the board, regarding this item I’ll vote to accept Second It has been moved and seconded to accept Superintendent President Dr. Romali’s status update and additional requests Any discussion on this item? All those in favor? – [Virginia] Aye (overlapping chattering) All those opposed? All right, the motion carries We are moving onto item 4.1, revised board policy and administrative regulation, 2005, student member of the Board of Trustees This is an action item that the board approve

and adopt a revised board policy and administrative regulation regarding the student trustee Dr. Romali, I will defer to you Just trying to get an answer to Trustee Jones’s question, my apologies Okay, the next item is for the student member on the Board of Trustees, and the proposed edit, this was requested by Trustee Donnell Jones And he wanted to have the student be able to make and second motions, as well as cast an advisory vote on matters before the vote, except for motions related to personnel and labor relations, and that the student member should not be allowed to attend closed session material, and it keeps it in philosophy, keeping with the campus’s philosophy in participatory governance, so we are bringing that forward to you tonight for a reading Is that the action? It has already been for first reading, and we are looking at action this evening Okay, yes, this would be the second reading and action item, do you have, Madame Secretary, do you have language for me to read out? On the action item? [Madame Secretary] You read the motion (mumbles) All right, so then I will entertain a motion on this item So moved Second It has been moved and seconded that the board approve and adopt the revised board policy and administrative regulation 2005 for student member of the Board of Trustees as submitted Any discussion on this item? Student Trustee? I just wanted to thank Superintendent President Romali and the board for bringing this back for second reading, and hopefully that this passes, I thank you guys for your commitment, and reaffirming your commitment to the philosophy of participatory governance, and I believe that this modification would allow for better representation of our student voices here at the board Trustee Ntuk? Yeah, I just want to thank Trustee Jones for bringing this forward, I know this is a conversation I think we started last summer about reforming the student trustee role, and then enhance the opportunities that are available in the ed code that we previously hadn’t adopted So I know the first reading was on summer vacation, I think we missed you, but I’m glad you’re here for the second reading, and I think this now allows the student trustee to vote before the rest of the trustees, so we have an idea on what the student perspective before, plus of an enhanced clarification in participation roles And I guess my question, I don’t know, Dr. Romali, or who’s appropriate, so we, this is the second reading, so if it gets adopted tonight, does it go into effect tonight, or does it go in effect the next board meeting? And then does this make us go to role call votes again, to make sure we get the student trustee vote before the rest of us vote? – [Reagan] Mr. Lipton, may we inquire of you? It’s really up to the board as to when it should take effect Unless the board indicates otherwise, any policy that is voted upon takes effect immediately, if that’s not the intent of the board, then that should be made part of the motion Okay, as it stands, the motion is to approve and adopt the revised board policy, but it doesn’t mention if it would go into effect immediately, do any board members have any input or opinion on that? Student Trustee, do you? It would be great if it went into effect immediately, again, in the spirit of, excuse me, participatory governance, however, if it is the board’s pleasure to defer it to the next term, that would be amenable, too Okay, thank you very much, I am amenable to whatever the board decides with that I would like to say, Trustee Jones, that I do applaud you, and I know that we’ve had some very interesting discussions about the work and the changes that you’ve tried to bring forth, and I know that it hasn’t been easy for you, so I appreciate that And also, I’d like to thank Dr. Romali and the staff because several times, it took a little bit of extra work to do the research and to come back with information for, based on student trustees’ requests, and the questions that he had So thank you all for working together to do this, and I think it is something very important,

to include our students in a shared governance process So at this time, any additional discussion? We do have a motion and a second on the floor All those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? The motion carries, congratulations, thank you All right, item 4.2, revised board policy 2027, board member compensation, this is an action item that the Board of Trustees approve and adopt revised policy 2027, board member compensation as submitted This was first read at the May 22nd meeting, it is now presented for approval Is there a motion on this item? (overlapping chattering) – [Sunny] Second It has been moved and seconded, any discussion on this item, Student Trustee? Again, just in keeping with the last one, thanks again, Superintendent Dr. Romali, as well as the board, for bringing this back again One question I did have, if the board, if anybody on the board would like to make the motion to potentially increase the compensation for the student trustee to 50% of the current trustees pay, which would be $200.00, and again, just as with the last one, because this is keeping with participatory governance, and not, I guess, keeping with participatory governance, I would be, I would ask the board to consider this, and potentially even defer it to the next term, if need be, whatever the board would like to do Dr. Romali, I think if we’ve had a discussion on this, and that the amount is set per the ed code, is that correct? Yes The amount is set per ed code, that did come back, I believe that was the discussion at a previous meeting and it failed, and so we looked into it with the ed code, and it’s per ed code – [Donnell] Okay It is allowed a, I believe it is a 5% differential So there’s no wiggle room for negotiation, although your effort is to be commended We have to follow the ed code as is prescribed, and there’s just no wiggle room in what we can do So thank you very much Appreciate it Any additional discussion on the item? All right, at this time I’d like to call for a vote All those in favor, this is to, let’s see, item 4.2, to accept the revised board policy 2027, please say aye – [Board Members] Aye All those opposed, all right, the motion carries Item, item 4.3, revised board policy on administrative regulation 2015, annual organization meeting and board officers I’d like to, let’s see, okay, so per staff, we’re going to pull items 4.3 and 4.7 because our legal counsel has advised us that we have a conflict in the date of the December 9th board meeting that’s December 9th, 2020 We actually cannot have the board reorganization meeting prior to the swearing in and oath of office that the county or the city have to certify elections So that was something that was just brought to our attention by legal counsel today, so because item 4.3 and– [Madame Secretary] Excuse me, President Malauulu? Yes? We would like to keep 4.7 and amend it, pull 4.3, but you said pull both of them, you named them, so– So, yes, when– You’re going to– When you and I spoke in the back, that was the agreement, but then I got this note after, so I didn’t know which one came first ’cause you and I talked about that– [Madame Secretary] Yes, we decided that we would pull the December off, we’ll vote with it without December meeting, and we’ll bring that meeting time back Got it, okay– [Madame Secretary] For separate action All right, so let me start over, let me clarify ’cause we did have a discussion about this in closed session, and I was given a note, so I’m not, I don’t want to confuse anybody, so let’s start all over We are going to pull item 4.3, Madame Secretary, is that correct? That’s correct So we will table that to the September 11th meeting, just so the public is aware, and then we will keep item 4.7, but we will get to that when we get to that [Madame Secretary] That’s correct Any discussion on that? – [Doug] I wanted to clarify that we didn’t discuss it in closed session, it came– Correct And it was information provided, it wasn’t on the agenda

Correct, you’re right, it was not an agenda item, it was a staff information item, per legal And the board didn’t discuss it, and it would have been improper to report out what we didn’t discuss You’re absolutely right, Trustee Otto, thank you for the procedural correction there All right, so we’re gonna move onto, any other discussion on tabling item 4.3? All right, item 4.4, new board policy 2034, committees on the board, this is a discussion and first reading A point, another quick point of order Did you say that we’re going to table it? I know we have to take a vote on tabling it We’re pulling it, right? We’re pulling it, it will come back Okay, so you didn’t mean table it, you mean we’re just gonna pull it– [Madame Secretary] No, it’s not table– Correct, sorry, I misspoke, we are pulling, let me, for the third time, let me start all over on that item, we want to make sure we get this right, I want to make sure that I get this right So item 4.3 is being pulled from the agenda per staff and per legal, and we will continue Thank you, Trustee Otto, any additional discussion on that? Okay, I apologize, I am working off of a couple of notes here and I want to make sure that I report the right information, that I say the right information, okay, are we good? Item 4.4, new board policy, 2034, committees of the board, this is a discussion, non-action item, first reading The new board policy is submitted for a first reading, it’s recommended as a result of our ongoing review to ensure compliance with legal code and align with best practices Does anyone have any discussion on new board policy 2034? Trustee Ntuk? Yeah, I think this is a good thing I think it gives us additional opportunities to have robust discussion, be able to categorize different areas and topics that we should talk about that may help shorten our board meetings down from four or five hours a session to more condensed time, fingers crossed But I’d love to see a Policy Committee, I know we have the Facilities Committee, whatever other committees the board thinks that we should have, and I think it’s a good, I know there’s different structures of committees Sometimes you can have one trustee and staff on a committee, versus two trustees and staff, and so there’s, I’ve seen other districts have multiple configurations, but it sounds like this is just the beginning, that at least creates a foundational policy for us to establish permanent committees So I think this is a good thing – [Vivian] Trustee, Student Trustee Donnell? I just had a quick question regarding the language of this policy here, looking at the second paragraph, it says, “The board committees, which are composed solely “of less than a quorum of members “of the Board of Trustees,” dot dot dot So does this mean that these committees will just be a two person committee? I will defer that to Dr. Romali, or would it be all two person committees, or is it, what the board decides, how many board members would represent on the committee? I’m gonna pull a double deferral and ask Mr. Lipton. (laughs) – [Vivian] So– Mr. Lipton? Mr. Lipton, with regard, Student Trustee Jones asked about the number of board members on the committees Could you please restate your question for the benefit of our legal counsel, please? Certainly, so looking at the language of the first sentence of paragraph two, it says that the board committees, which are composed solely of less than a quorum of members of the Board of Trustees, does that mean that these committees would just consist of two members, and only board members? If I understand Trustee Jones’s question, the second paragraph of board policy 2034 refers to board committees which are composed solely of just two board members, it doesn’t mean that every committee is only composed of two board members, but those that are composed solely of less than a quorum and our advisory are not required to comply with the Brown Act unless they’re standing committees It didn’t mean to suggest that that’s the only type of committee that’s possible Okay Did I answer your question? Right, I believe so, thank you Can I follow up? So there can be a committee with one board member

’cause that’s less than a quorum, right? Well, by definition, a committee consists of more than one person, otherwise, it’s just delegating to a person a particular task, which the board certainly can do, but it wouldn’t legally be considered a committee And I believe it was Orange Coast College, had a committee of staff, a cabinet staff, and a board member that was assigned Does this preclude us from doing that, then? No, it doesn’t, and the question would be whether or not the staff members are actually members of the committee, which they could be, or whether only the trustees are members of the committee But certainly, there could be a committee consisting of a trustee and other staff members, and this policy does not preclude such a committee – [Uduak-Joe] Thank you Thank you, Student Trustee Jones, does that answer your question? That was the question I was trying to ask Thank you, anybody else, any other discussion or question? Any other trustees, okay, so that’s a discussion item for first reading, so it will be back on the September 11th agenda, second reading and action item And now we will move onto item 4.5, new board policy 2035, board membership Once again, this is a discussion item, first reading The same thing, board policy is just being submitted as discussion and first reading for ongoing, to ensure that we are compliant with legal code and align with best practices Any discussion on this item? All right, seeing none, this item, oh, I’m sorry, I didn’t see you – [Donnell] No worries I looked to you first I apologize I did not see you, Student Trustee, okay, go ahead I was looking over the policy one more time, just to make sure that I was asking a relevant question And so the first question I have, two questions, the first one is, does the portion here in section, paragraph three, the employment must be automatically terminated upon being sworn into office, would that clause also apply to the student member of the Board of Trustees? I know that they’re not considered a full trustee, however, would this policy preclude them from being employees of the district? Well, I don’t know the answer to that Mr. Lipton will answer that, if the student trustee is able to serve being an employee, right, if I understand your question correctly But I do remember having had student trustees who were employed by the district and continue serving as student trustees But I don’t know if there’s policy – [Donnell] Right Is there a conflict with the language saying work study? That’s a great question, by the way Thank you Well, the first paragraph of board policy 2035 specifically provides that this policy pertains only to the five elected trustees, and in fact, there is no restriction on the student trustee being an employee, so long as the student trustee otherwise qualifies under the law to be the student trustee There’s no prohibition about the student trustee being an employee, although if the student trustee were an employee, there may be situations where they may be precluded from making a motion or seconding a motion if there were a conflict, due to their employment So would it be appropriate for a student trustee to recuse him or herself if an item were to arise, but continue working for the district, continue serving as a student trustee, but then just when an item that presents a conflict arises, he or she would just recuse himself or herself? Yes, that’s right, for example, if the student trustee were a student worker and there were an item on the board to change the conditions of student employees or to increase the salary of student employees, the student trustee should not participate as a trustee in that vote – [Vivian] Thank you very much – [Donnell] And then I had one more– Go ahead One more question that regards the five elected members of the board, looking at the last paragraph, where it says, “No member of the board shall, “during the term for which he or she was elected, “be eligible to serve on the governing board “of a school district whose boundaries are coterminous “with those of the district.” Would that apply in the situation, I guess, would this clause preclude a trustee who would hypothetically be considering running, not running for reelection here on our board,

but running for election of another board at the end of their term, would this mean that they would be ineligible to do that, to do so? I don’t know if that question was clear – [Vivian] Mr. Lipton? (overlapping chattering) We’re keeping you busy tonight, Mr. Lipton You know what, actually, Trustee Baxter just reminded me that my own predecessor was serving as trustee of area two when he was elected to City Council, district seven, and he served his term until he was sworn in as city councilman, and then there was an appointment process So I don’t know if that answers your question, but you did say the five sitting trustees, so I guess we do have a precedent that was set then Well, there’s no legal problem, so long as the same person is not concurrently actually serving in both elected offices, it’s not a conflict or a violation of this policy or law for, say, a member of the Board of Trustees to be elected to another office, city council, or school board, so long as they’re not serving in both offices concurrently Okay, thank you (overlapping chattering) – [Mr. Lipton] It’s called doctrine of incompatible offices (overlapping chattering) Thank you very much, do you have any other questions, Trustee Ntuk? – [Uduak-Joe] Just a different topic Stay there. (laughs) On the part-time faculty portion there, I think it’s paragraph four, so if someone was teaching before and they got elected, they could still teach one three unit class, but if you weren’t teaching before and you got elected, you can’t teach a three unit class, is that what that means? That’s correct, if they’re previously, just as you stated, Trustee Ntuk, if they previously were employed as a part-time instructor, and then elected or appointed to the board, they could continue in that capacity Okay, thank you Well, that was a conflict for me, because I was teaching part time, and I had to step down, so Yeah, Ginny also, Trustee Baxter, also, so yeah, we’ve got some examples sitting here Any additional discussion on that item? Okay, so that is a discussion in first reading, it will return on the September 11th agenda So now we are going to item 4.6, and this is my appointment to the Facility Subcommittee, and I have spoken to Trustee, Vice President Trustee Ntuk, and Trustee Dr. Ginny Baxter, and they have both expressed an interest in serving on the Facility Subcommittee So Madame Secretary, those are my two appointments That is an action item, any discussion on either of those appointments? Can somebody clarify for me when the board voted on the establishment of a Facilities Subcommittee? – [Vivian] That is a great question Does anyone know the answer, Trustee Ntuk? I believe we voted on it in August of 2018, and again, I think in September of 2018 It was the end of last summer that the idea came up and was voted on, I believe it was voted on, but check the minutes, I guess I believe you made the appointments last September, 2018 The establishment So if– Specifically remember talking about it in August of last year So if we made the appointment in September, then that means that we would have had a first reading discussion in August, maybe second reading discussion, September, would that not have happened? We, Trustee Ntuk, we will check and get back to you We would have to look back in our records here The only date that I remember is the appointment I raised the– Can we report on that next meeting? I raised the question because the city, the college has an elaborate facilities process, and I don’t recall any discussion of the relationship between the Facilities Subcommittee and that process, and who reports to who, who makes final decisions, and so how this committee is integrated into that process, so I’m, so we gotta be able to look historically and see if those things were considered – [Reagan] We’ll research it and get back to you for the next meeting Thank you, those are valid points, Trustee Otto, thank you, any additional discussion on that item?

Okay, that is an action item, so I will need a motion and a second, please So moved – [Virginia] Second So the two trustees that have been appointed to the Facilities Subcommittees meeting moved and seconded that they be appointed Any additional discussion on that? All right, said level those in favor– I have something to say Yes, Trustee Zia? I just wanted to commend your selection and your appointment, Trustee Baxter and Trustee Ntuk will both do a great job, so I’m excited to hear about their reports, and look forward to see what will come one of the Facilities Subcommittee Thank you Thank you, Trustee Zia, Trustee Otto? And I’m gonna abstain from this vote because I’d like to know that the committee was validly established, and what, how it integrates with what I think is a great facilities planning process that we have, and just get some clarity on that, so Thank you for letting us know in advance of your abstention, any additional remarks on that? All right, all those in favor, or you do have to call on Student Trustee, right? All right, there you go [Madame Secretary] Donnell Jones? – [Donnell] Aye And all those in favor? Aye Aye Any opposed? And any abstentions? Abstain Thank you, Trustee Otto, for letting us know We are moving onto item 4.7, and as mentioned previously, this schedule is good, minus the last item, which is the December 9th date So this is an action item, we will be voting to approve the meeting calendar for 2020, with the exception of the December 9th meeting We will have to wait to see, first of all, what legal counsel says, based on the election results of the November election and how that comes back So I just want to make sure everyone understands that we’re voting on everything except the December meeting, any discussion on that? I’d like to clarify, it’s not depending on the election, it’s the fact that the election will take place, and we have to reschedule within the timeframe of the annual organization meeting, and the term commencement of the new trustees, or reelected trustees I stand corrected, thank you for that clarification, any discussion? So right now, we need a motion to approve that calendar without the December 9th meeting – [Virginia] So move Second All right, it has been moved and seconded, oh, I’m sorry, we do have to have Student Trustee vote on that, right? Student Trustee– I apologize Donnell Jones? Aye All right, all those in favor of this amended schedule for the 2020 board meetings, please say aye – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed, all right, thank you We are moving onto item 4.8, the Community and Student Workforce Project Agreement This is a discussion and possible agenda item, and I will defer this to Vice President Drinkwine Thank you so much, at our last meeting, we discussed in depth the Community and Student Workforce Project Labor Agreement I’d like to provide you with an update on negotiations thus far Provided for you is a brief summary of the existing agreement, as well as the motions that were successful from our last meeting Those were reflected on page two, that the motions were, that were, again, successful, were to add Long Beach Community College student graduates to tier one priority, they were to request the trades unions to provide our student graduates preferential entry into apprenticeship programs, to add stipulations that the trade unions advocate for our training programs when negotiating with other agencies, to base the amendment on a project list, and to have the amendment go until the completion of all bond projects going forward and the ones that are remaining, which could be until 2041 We’ve had several productive conversation with the Trades Council, we continue to negotiate on the exact language, but there is broad agreement on these issues I’ve provided for you what the project list would look like for an agreement that goes through the conclusion of the facilities master plan through 2041 Those projects are listed beginning

on the bottom of page two, and continue through page three There would be a total of 14 projects, and to clarify, these are the projects that are currently identified and defined There are some projects in the plan, examples are minor campus improvements, the enterprise-wide computer system, landscaping, or joint use facilities, that are very broadly stated, landscaping’s a good example From year to year, we may identify a need, it’s not identified now, so we can’t say each of those subprojects, what the value of them are, the same with the minor campus improvements The larger two, the enterprise-wide computer system or the joint use facilities are not defined They are very large projects, so therefore, they are not reflected You can, under the current agreement, and we intend to repeat the language, as a board, choose to add a project as it is defined, even if it’s not already in the project list So of those defined projects, there are, again, 14, the total value of the construction costs, so this does not represent the entire costs of the project, but rather just the construction costs portion, is $334,784,430.00 So negotiations continue, I hope to be able to come back to you in the very near future with an agreeable amendment that satisfies both our needs, as well as the Trades Council’s, and what questions can I answer for you? Okay, are there any questions at this time for Vice President Drinkwine? I know Trustee Otto, you wanted to speak I’m uncomfortable with the idea that we might take action on something tonight, the reason for that is that we would be piecemealing a very important part of how it is that we will be doing things for the next 20 plus years And the, (quiet overlapping chattering) so what I would rather do is continue this item and have a comprehensive discussion when we have a proposal that has been vetted between the trades and the college at our September, at our next meeting in September And so I would move that we continue this item to the September board meeting And forgive me, Trustee Otto, the item is discussion with possible action So unless the Board of Trustee wished to change any of those negotiating parameters as voted by the last meeting, this is intended to be an update on the issue Only action would be if you wished to take additional action regarding the parameters And personally, I feel that we had a discussion last time, I walked away from it not knowing exactly what was decided, or where we were going, and I’d rather not have another discussion and then try and integrate that discussion with the action that we would be contemplating taking at the September meeting, and so it would be I think in all of our best interests, especially given this long agenda, to do all that at once We can study it, there’ll be something concrete in front of us, and so that’s why I’m making this recommendation, and see if there’s a second – [Uduak-Joe] I’ll second it Okay, just a second, thank you very much, I just want to make sure procedurally, Vice President Drinkwine, you had called if anyone had any questions, correct? Okay, so I just want to make sure that we’re following proper protocol if we do have questions, and then we’ll go into a motion, and then we’ll go into discussion I don’t want to put the cart before the horse So anybody have any questions on Vice President Drinkwine’s report? Okay, so now, in order for us to have discussion on the item, we do need a motion, and then we can open up the floor for discussion – [Uduak-Joe] Say it again? I move that this matter be reagendized at the September meeting of the board – [Uduak-Joe] Second Excuse me, could you repeat your motion, Trustee Otto? That this agenda item be placed on the September meeting of the Board of Trustees Continue to that meeting [Madame Secretary] I’m sorry, what? Continued until that meeting

[Madame Secretary] Okay Is it your wish to bring the fully baked contract back to September, or continue the discussion at September? No, to bring the fully baked contract back [Madame Secretary] We’ll bring the full contract back, correct? And Trustee Ntuk, you still second it? Okay, we have a motion on the floor, it has been seconded, to bring this agenda item back on the September 11th board meeting as a fully completed amendment to the existing Community and Student Workforce Project And do we have any discussion on that motion, Student Trustee? I just have a question, I think it was already pointed out by Vice President Drinkwine earlier that this item is, it’s up for discussion, so would it not already come back at the next meeting, just the same? We don’t have to take action on it unless we’re actually going to make any changes? Trustee Otto, would you like to address him, since you are the maker of the motion? Sure, I don’t think that, I think that the motion cleans up the way that we’re going to do this, which is we’re gonna consider all of this at the September meeting, and it doesn’t preclude our discussing it at that meeting, as well, I just think that decisions are better made at one time than piecemeal And so since there were no questions when it was asked to have a discussion right now about those items, it’s, in my opinion, I made the motion so we could tackle this issue in September Thank you, any additional questions or discussion items for this motion? All right, at this time, Madame Secretary, we’ll go ahead and call for the vote [Madame Secretary] Doug Otto? – [Doug] Aye Any, all those in favor of this motion, please say aye – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? Nay All right, I believe the motion carries, I heard one nay, Madame Secretary? – [Virginia] That’s correct All right, thank you, moving onto item 4.9, health and welfare benefits– (overlapping chattering) It passed, sorry, Trustee Baxter – [Virginia] It’s okay All right, item 4.9 – [Virginia] I had it wrong, excuse me Are we good, Madame Secretary? [Madame Secretary] One moment, I’m correcting the vote We had one nay [Madame Secretary] Yes – [Sunny] Yeah, but she had the wrong nay, I didn’t, I wasn’t (mumbles) Okay, item 4.9, health and welfare benefits for members of the Board of Trustees and personnel commission per board policy 2002 Once again, this is a discussion and possible action item, I would like to defer this to Vice President Gene Durand So at a previous meeting, there was a discussion on health and welfare benefits, and the ability to waive, we did look into it further, and what you see in this information is that we do allow employees to waive benefits as it is listed on the waiver I believe only the three categories that are there because of our limited resources with health and welfare administration, it is done manually by one person who reports to the payroll manager, as opposed to a more automated system, which I know was down the road We heard last night that part of the BPR might be related to looking into the implementation, and I’ll let Vice President Drinkwine jump in if she wishes, look into the implementation of an online self service health and welfare benefit admin process But currently, again, it is just one person who does it for every single employee of the district, which is over 2,000 people I’m not sure what else, we did provide some other information, I’m not sure if the board has any additional questions on that Any additional questions for Vice President Durand, regarding this item? Trustee Ntuk? Sure, yeah, thank you so much for the additional information Just to clarify, are appointees of the Bond Oversight Committee, trustees or personnel commissioners, employees of the district? So not necessarily employees, but by policy, they are given the same health and welfare benefits as employees And then I know we were talking earlier, is it true that some employees get no healthcare benefits,

the part-time instructors do not get healthcare, any of these three healthcare options? Sure, so there are a couple categories, and I hope I remember them all, so for any staff member who is working less than 20 hours, no benefits, 20 hours and above, they get benefits, regular employees Those individuals who are classified, that considered an LTE and outside the personnel commission, LTE employees would not get benefits In addition, part-time faculty do not get health and welfare benefits, what is offered to those individuals, though, is a bronze plan, as is required under the ACA, and if that is determined to be not affordable, then they can go to the Exchange, to California Covered, and see what may be available there But as far as support from the district, there is no additional support for health and welfare benefits What is the cost of the bronze ACA, I think it’s called Covered California? You know, I don’t have that in front of me, I can get that back, generally it’s around the seven, $800.00 a month The target, I remember, was about 750 I can get that information for the board, to see what the current rate is that we are offer And then with the new findings of the options, do we need to amend the policy to give people the option if they want dental, versus only vision, or? Am I correct, that’s a potential option? So it is three waivers, and that’s currently what we offer If there is a desire to explore other things, we certainly can look at that Oh, so on the current waiver form, you just pick one? Correct, so there are three options, so all insurances, or medical insurance only, or dental and vision together only And for those individuals who are covered who are waiving medical, we would need certification that they are covered elsewhere And then do we do the, we’re not able to find survey information on personnel commissioners that get healthcare benefits? I know we talked about it last time, but I didn’t know, that was an unanswered question I do not believe we were able to find any survey information that would be helpful I don’t know if Vice President Drinkwine has any other information to add I think the only information we could find at a survey level was regarding trustee health benefits There was not any collection of data regarding personnel commission health benefits (overlapping chattering) So Vice President Drinkwine, is there any opportunities for savings on what we have? I did provide for you, attached to the agenda was a two year history of costs, and then provided tonight was an expanded three year history of costs There is a selection of packages that can be made, the most expensive package is for family coverage using a PPO for health and a PPO for dental, and the district contribution for that would be $29,621.00 There are savings between what was selected by each trustee or commissioner and that total, but provided for you in that document is the total by Board of Trustees, and then separately by personnel commission for 2016, ’17, ’17/’18 and ’18/’19 And so you can see that each of those totals, after accounting for the waivers of the Board of Trustees, the Board of Trustees total for ’18/’19 is $53,408.00, and then for the personnel commission with no waivers, the total is $51,305.00 And the three, I guess the three year, we just take the, any number times three? Absolutely, it is a little bit difficult in that we do anticipate healthcare costs to rise every year, and it depends on the year what the severity of that increase is, but you can certainly say that at a minimum, it is at least savings of about $150,000.00 for each of the board or the personnel commission over a three year period Any additional questions? Okay, this is a possible action item, is there any action that staff recommends

that we take, or do we leave everything as is? Is there a recommendation? If any of the trustees see any changes that need to be made, if not, then we’ll move on All right, thank you very much So we’re gonna move onto, Dario, is our caller ready on the line? I hear buzzing, so we’re moving onto item 4.10, this is our board self evaluation, and we’re going to pause, (phone dials) there it is, some– (Robin mumbles) Technical action here, Dr Calote, are you on the line? – [Robin] Here it is, some (mumbles) I think she’s watching the board meeting, and there’s a few seconds delay from the webcast Dr. Calote, are you on the line? – [Robin] Yes, I am, I am Okay, welcome, for the public, this is, Dr. Romali selected Dr. Calote to conduct the Superintendent President evaluation, and also the board evaluation, and she is on the line, and this is a discussion, possible action item She has been, she’s teleconferencing with us, we teleconferenced with her earlier during closed session, and she will describe the board self-evaluation process Go ahead, Dr. Calote, welcome, and you have the floor – [Robin] Thank you very much, again, my name is Dr. Robin Calote, for members of the audience, and I wanted to let you know that I was the President of Ventura College until I retired in 2013, since then, I have done some work for Community College Search Services, a consulting firm where I’ve been involved with recruitment and doing background reports But my presentation this evening is not affiliated with that consulting firm What I’d like to do is briefly walk you through a four part document that you received as a BoardDocs attachment Part one is a review of the purpose for and process of board self evaluation, and page one tells you that the board self evaluation is required by accreditation standards, that your board policy 2018 is consistent with those accreditation standards More importantly than just meeting accreditation standards, however, for self evaluation is an opportunity to model the organizational value of reflecting on one’s own performance and engaging in ongoing improvement Outcomes of the typical board self evaluation are described at the bottom of page one, and these are a summary of board accomplishments for the prior year, again, differentiating between board accomplishments and institutional accomplishments, assessment of progress towards last year’s board goals, identification of new board goals, reflection of team dynamics and effectiveness, and identification of areas where additional information or support are needed On page two of part one describes the components of board self evaluation as being a survey of the trustees, a survey of employee constituent groups who are in a position to have observed and are aware of the board in action, preparation of a report that summarizes the surveys, and then a study session or retreat in which the board discusses the summarized survey findings, assesses where it is relative to last year’s board goals, and establishes new goals for itself And then at a later meeting, the board accepts a concluding summary report, based on the study session discussions Before I go onto a review of the draft survey documents, do you have any questions? Anyone have any questions for Dr. Calote? I have a question if, can you hear me? This is Trustee– Yes, I can Ntuk, okay, great, what’s the best way to measure the board accomplishments in the self-evaluation process? – [Robin] Well, in last year’s self evaluation, did you identify goals for yourself, as a board? – [Virginia] Yes, yes, yes – [Robin] Yes, you did, okay, so you would then, in your discussion, review, discuss and review how satisfied you are towards having accomplished those goals So it depends on how concrete your goals were

If, for example, it was to increase awareness of the budget process and you held workshops, even that accomplished that goal So ideally, you would have identified both goals and activities that would support those goals, and could then measure whether you did them or not Any additional questions? Okay, Dr. Calote, go ahead, you have the floor – [Robin] Okay, so then moving onto part two, this is a draft open for as many revisions as you’d like to make, this would be used as a trustee self evaluation form It’s based on 35 questions that were taken from the Community College Lead Question Bank for board self evaluation And they have many more than 35, but in general, people are put off when they have to answer 70, 80 questions, so 35 seemed to be a good number, without being redundant in the questions They would be administered as a SurveyMonkey, in an online form, and responses would be sent either to me, or to me in combination with Human Resources, or whoever else you determined The individual responses would be consolidated and not link to any respondent trustee, and as you can see from looking at it, for the 35 questions, they’re on a Likert scale, identifying what the board responsibility is, for example, under mission and planning, the board reviews the mission and purposes of the institution, and then on a scale of one to five, to what degree have they accomplished that, and there’s also space for not observed At the end of the 35 questions, beginning on page 11 are an additional five open-ended questions, which are, what are the board’s greatest strengths? To improve effectiveness, in what areas is the board in need of additional support of development? What issues have most occupied the board’s time and attention during the past year, and were these closely tied to the mission and goals of the district and board? Is the board functioning as a team as well as it should, why or why not, and what does the board do to maintain a positive relationship with the CEO? What does the board need to change, if anything? So again, for these five questions, or any version of open-ended questions that you would like to include, these responses would be consolidated, so they’re not linked back to any one trustee I know you probably haven’t had much time to review these questions, so you may want to take more time and then provide feedback on what changes you’d like to see Moving onto part three, this would be the form, the proposed form for using with constituent groups Again, this is a draft, the questions are the same, including the open-ended questions at the end And again, all of the responses would be consolidated within this group, and nothing would be linked back to the individual response, and this survey response would be kept separate from the one that the trustees are filling out for themselves And then finally, part four is a draft assessment of perceived trustee needs or resources, and or training, and this would be part of your planning process, as well, this is, again, based on a question bank from the Community College League for Trustee Self Evaluation And it goes through, it’s fairly long, it goes through a long list of information that you might need as a trustee, and you would assess as an individual, how confident you feel in each area, and whether, if you’re very confident, that you feel you have some knowledge and skills, or whether you feel you need more information These responses would all be consolidated into a report, and from that hopefully would emerge some good ideas of areas where the board would like workshops and more training, or more reports, or more information that would help them to be more knowledgeable and effective as board members So those would be, again, the components of board self evaluation, and I invite any questions that you may have Okay, Dr. Calote, Ginny Baxter

Here’s my question, I looked at your resume, and it does not list that you’ve done this work before How many college and boards, I hope I’m not being rude, how many college, but I will proceed anyway, how many colleges and boards have you worked with with self evaluation? – [Robin] I have only worked with, I have done a lot of evaluation of candidates, and I have worked as a community college president and have participated in board workshops and facilitation and board evaluation, but I have not done consulting work in this area– Okay, thank you Any additional questions or comments? I do Trustee Zia? Thank you, I wasn’t quite sure when reading this, and again, I need to distill a little bit more and look at it scrupulously, but as far as the community aspect of it, I just wasn’t sure what that’s reflected, it may be prudent for us to be evaluated by members of the community who work with us, or come to our meetings, so that we’re not operating in our own ecosystem and cocoon necessarily Is that something that we’ve given some foresight and introspection, and perhaps looked at other colleges? I think, if I’m not mistaken, I reckon Rancho Santiago Community College does that, has a community element in their 360 review But I may be wrong – [Robin] Well, that’s certainly something that could be added, in terms of the constituent feedback And you can survey anyone that you would like to survey, with the constituency background Yeah, I mean, I recognize that we get our feedback through our elections, but in the interim, it would be nice to know how we’re doing in the community, and how the community perceives us – [Robin] It’s nice to get concrete feedback, beyond just a ballot I’m sorry? – [Robin] I think it’s nice to get concrete feedback, beyond just a ballot – [Sunny] Yeah Any additional questions or comments? I have a couple of comments, Dr. Calote, in section two, I believe, with the actual questions I noticed that there was a lot of policy questions on here that the board is being asked to self evaluate I highlighted some of the most relevant ones that are applicable to me and my service, and then also my colleagues And I’d just like to call attention to four of them, and then I’d like to ask you a question about them So question 21, board members uphold and comply with the board’s code of ethics, question 22, board members avoid conflicts of interest, and the perception of such conflicts, question 24, board discussions and relationships reflect a climate of trust and respect, and the last one is, and again, I did highlight a few of them, but the most relevant ones, question 25, board members exhibit integrity and professionalism in fulfilling their role So I have a question for you because board members are asked to self evaluate, and then they are asked to evaluate the board, how do you compile individual responses and then present them, and then compile board responses and present them? Is it a scale? I see that these answers have been assigned a number value, do you add them and present a number value, and then is there a scale for them? Or how do you measure that, what’s the metric that you use? – [Robin] Okay, first, I want to make sure you’re understanding, when it says, “Board members uphold “and comply with the board’s code of ethics,” the individual board members are not evaluating just themselves, they’re thinking of the group as a whole So as the group as a whole, do you feel the group upholds and complies with the board’s code of ethics? So not answering, for this survey, you’re not answering in terms of just your own performance, but the group as a whole The application software of SurveyMonkey consolidates all of the answers, and then it has metrics, so it will show the average number, so

And then what I was planning on doing was comparing the board’s average of their answers with the average of the answers of the constituents, and from that, you could see if there’s any congruence or mismatches between the way the board perceives itself and the way constituent groups perceive it And that’s the real value of doing it this way Okay, thank you– – [Robin] Did that answer your question? It did answer the question, yes I think perhaps that we should incorporate a more substantive metric, perhaps it’s the teacher in me that wants to see a grading scale, but I know that that’s not possible, so I’ll take a look at this document, and then offer feedback, and maybe do some research and see what other boards do to have an actual metric, something that we can actually, a tangible score or grading rubric Any additional questions or comments? – [Virginia] I have one Yes? President Malauulu, perhaps if you looked at the last time we did this evaluation, it would help you because as Dr. Calote says, these are taken from the Community College League’s list, and so she’s not just making questions up I think a lot of them probably are the same, so it would be interesting, perhaps, for the board to review what the answers were, or is that a bad idea because it might skew the responses? Yeah, just for clarification, I’m not questioning the questions themselves The questions are fine, I’m familiar with the questions and their origin My question is, as far as, what is a deliverable, what do we actually get, how is it presented, how are the scores, if there is a score, if there’s a grading scale, that’s really what my question is I’m okay with the questions, I just want to know what the system of measurement is – [Virginia] It’ll be one through five Sure, sure, any additional questions or remarks? I have one more, Dr. Calote, and thank you very much Before we let you go, I had also looked over your resume, and I noticed you were at Ventura College Were you at Ventura College at the same time as Dr. Scott? You were both– I certainly was You were both there at the same time? – [Robin] I invited her to come into administration Okay, got it, thank you, thank you very much, anybody else? All right, thank you, Dr. Calote, and we might be calling you back in closed session, so thank you for tuning in – [Robin] Okay, thank you very much, good evening All right, so this is, it is a discussion and possible action item, are there any action that needs to be taken, is there any action that anybody would like to propose? All right, so we’re gonna move onto item 4.11 This is the 2019/2020 board agenda schedule This is just an information item, schedules and ongoing routine agenda items that the board can expect to see on a monthly basis, when we have our board meetings Any discussion on that? All right, and now we are moving onto item 4.12, and at this time, I would like to defer the meeting to Vice President Ntuk, and do you want to switch seats, or can you do it from there, it’s up to you (quiet overlapping chattering) (Uduak-Joe mumbles) I could do it from– All right I didn’t know, great, so I guess we’re moving onto item 4.12, I believe we have some speaker cards for this agenda item Yes, I apologize, so there were two late speakers who had arrived, and they did go fill out the speaker card, but they didn’t make it in time, so sorry, I should have disclosed that before I handed over the meeting, thank you Sure, so I have two individuals, I’ll call up Mister, I have a Nizan Harvell and John Taileif I don’t know if either or both are still here, or wanted to speak? We’ll go with Nizan, if I’m saying that correctly Nizan, thank you, welcome Okay Hi, oops, this is, oh, I’m not

I would like to state that I am very upset to see this item on the agenda, I think this is a personal attack and not something that this board should be dealing with I feel like seeing someone be censured for, I can’t even, it’s not appropriate for this board to deal with personal statements, and take it to this place, I think, sorry, microphones I think this is more politically motivated than it is actually appropriate, and I also think that obviously the person who is targeted by this censure is an incredible member of our community, who has represented our community to the fullest, elected by her constituents, and I think that her constituents would be upset by, as a constituent, would be upset by this action I’m offended by it, personally And I also think that letting voices be heard, when it comes to an alleged, an alleged, sorry, my mind just went blank I’ve got time Where are my notes? I think this is more a term that should be settled personally in a conversation and dealt with, and not dealt with in this public forum I don’t think this is, first, I think it’s a personal conversation that happened I think it was something that, if a conversation happened with so much, someone didn’t agree with what was said, they could go personally to the person and express that without having to take it to a public forum and offend an entire community of people by doing so, and that’s it Thank you, Mr. John Taileif? My name is John Taileif, and I thank you, the Board of Trustees, for the moment This is a sensitive subject, I am a constituent, longterm supporter of this college through various measures passed to provide resources to this school I am a board member serving on various boards in Southern California, and watching, and I keep an eye on what goes on here because it’s an interest of mine I also serve at Cal State Long Beach under the CITT Master’s Logistics Program So this type of interesting development from this board I want to question and address As a board member, there are certain codes of ethics that you perform under, and if you’re going to have discussions regarding Ms. Zia, and if you discipline her, it would probably be appropriate, because I saw the moments of the film, back on July 24th, when she acted out, what she said In the climate of where the country’s at today, what I observed was literally somewhat of a subtle bashing of faith, and that’s not acceptable in this forum So we entrust you to guide the academic status of this institution, not to folly around and play immature games, and seethingly providing insults to your colleagues I ask you, in your discussions, to provide some measure of discipline, however that may be, it merits and it deserves this Ms. Zia, I hope that you can perform better in your capacity, thank you Thank you so much So moving on, we have, and just to clarify, according to our policy on an ethics complaint, if the president is involved in the complaint, then the vice president is asked to step in, which was the reason the meeting was passed

on to me So we have a written complaint, we also have a draft resolution We have a rebuttal, we have copies of the transcripts of the July meeting I guess at this time, we can open the floor for discussion or motions Well, I’ll start, I guess Someone asked me what I thought about this situation, and my answer was that this college has been around for 90 years, and I care about it more than any situation that might happen, and I care about the students And so when I vote, that’s how I’m going to vote, is what about the reputation of the school, what about what we stand for? And that’s all I’m gonna say (Uduak-Joe mumbles) (Sunny mumbles) Trustee Zia? Thank you, Madame Chair, Vice President Ntuk, fellow board members, administrators, faculty, and public, quite frankly, I messed up In a fit of frustration, I lost my temper, and said a number of things I should not have said, and definitely very much regret saying From the bottom of my heart, I apologize What is unfortunate is that my comments and the subsequent argument it caused with several of my board colleagues has only served to distract and take attention away from the main reason we are all here, to provide equitable student learning and achievement, academic excellence, and workforce development by delivering high-quality educational programs and support services to our diverse communities That is our mission, that is what we should be focusing on My apology, that I temporarily lost my temper, I know that I’m not perfect, I am human I sometimes make mistakes, I will do my best to keep any disagreement I may have with my colleagues, administrators, or faculty to a minimum, while doing my best to maintain a professional demeanor Thank you for your patience with me, it is much appreciated Thank you Mr. Ntuk? President Malauulu? Dario, I had sent you a text, I don’t know if you got it, I didn’t get a response there And I apologize, I had wanted you to play a clip, a particular clip, but I didn’t get a response from you, I’m sorry to put you on the spot like that If it’s not something that can happen, then I completely understand Okay, no worries At this time, I would just like to make a motion that we adopt a resolution of censure of Trustee Sunny Zia, based on the behavior of the July 24th board meeting I have a motion, is there a second? Second Is there any other further discussion on the agenda item? Trustee Otto? I would just say this, this is not an easy decision, but it is my opinion that given the evidence of dysfunction of this board, not just on the 24th of July, but over an extended period of time, something must be done And I support the motion, I hope that it will lead to better behavior, and this board can start to function as one, and not as a group of five individuals I’d also like to speak in favor of the motion First of all, I’d like to thank the members of the public who took the time to be here to speak I take heed, I agree with what Trustee Otto said, this is not an easy decision, it’s actually been a very difficult decision It’s caused considerable anxiety,

however, I took my oath of office very seriously I took the pledge that I made as a trustee very seriously, and I take my job very seriously, to serve this district, and to serve the community We do have board policies in place, we have had lots of problems during the three years that I’ve been on the board with just trustee behavior, which has been personally embarrassing to me And based on feedback that I’ve received from staff, students, community, even administrators, I’m not the only person who feels that way And it is unfortunate that it has come to this, and while some things are private and discussed in closed session, and actually, some things will be evaluated further, just so that you’re aware, this is not an isolated incident There have been other incidents, but we did not have a board policy in place that allowed us an opportunity to present them as agenda items, and now we do And I am following my conscience, and I am following my conviction to address an issue that I believe has gotten progressively worse, and will continue to escalate unless this board takes action As board chair, I made a vow, a public vow several times that when I became board chair, the culture of our meetings would change, and the atmosphere of our meetings would change, and the treatment of trustees would change And it is unfortunate that we had a mishap during my very first meeting as board chair We live in a country today where the President of the United States is allowed free will to speak and say things that we all know are inappropriate for an elected leader who is to represent an entire body, and it is unfortunate that we can’t do anything about it We can’t, the media has been censured, his own staff has been censured, and we here at the district are in a position where we actually can do something about it, and we actually can take action And again, it is not an easy decision, it’s a decision that I prayed over, had a lot of discussion with my family over And while I do accept Trustee Zia’s apology, which came, ironically, the day that I submitted the complaint, so just to give you a little timeline, the board meeting was July 24th, and I believe, and I have four children, so I teach them that if you’re sorry, you’re sorry right away And if not, you sleep on it, and you’re usually sorry the next day, and you start to feel remorse, and you address the issue There was a few days, a couple of weeks, three weeks, four weeks go by There was no attempt from Trustee Zia to reach out to me with an apology, to seek mediation, and when I filed the complaint, there was the attempt for the apology And I just felt that it was disingenuous because the apology should have happened sooner if it was sincere, and that’s perhaps, I’m a mom, so I see the world through a different lens, and in raising children, that’s how I’m raising my children Sometimes we see people who continually wrong others, and continually apologize over and over again And the behavior does not change, the apologies come, and Trustee Zia, I appreciate your apology today and the day that I filed the complaint I really wish that you had reached out to me a little sooner, and perhaps maybe then there would have been some mediation, without it having come to this because I did sit on the complaint for almost 30 days So at this time, those are the comments that I’d like to make, and again, I thank the members of the public And this is something that is allowed by district policy, and is well within our purview, and we are setting a precedent So the comments that were made to me were, “Oh, you’re a good Christian, “you’re a really good Christian, and holier than thou.” And if I said that about any other faith on this dais, my family would disown me If I made reference to someone else’s religion, or if I said, and I don’t mean this, I’m giving you an example, but if I said,

“Oh, you’re a good Muslim, a really good Muslim,” or, “You’re a good Jew, a really good Jew,” I would have instantly apologized, if I got caught up in the heat of the moment But what was said to me is, “Oh, you’re a good Christian, “you’re a really good Christian,” it was shocking And I don’t want a precedent to be set for the rest of our district to have teachers, faculty members, staff members, students, speak to each other that way, and I don’t want to walk through a hallway or walk through an admissions building and hear that type of commentary being said throughout our campus And if it’s appropriate to say it here on the dais to each other, we are elected officials, we are board members, we should be held above reproach We should set a higher standard, that’s not to say that we’re not human, we are, and we are imperfect, and we are a work in progress But we need to do better, and when this behavior continues to escalate, and when it continues to worsen, then we have a problem because the burden of responsibility to correct is falls on us And as Board Chair, it was my decision to take action, and to make sure that the district is protected from this potentially more damaging behavior, thank you Madame Board Secretary, I’d like to call for a roll call vote May I restate the motion, is that the Board of Trustees adopt a resolution of censure of Trustee Sunny Zia, and the motion was made by Vivian Malauulu and second by Doug Otto, is that correct? Yes Okay, Virginia Baxter? Nay This is interesting, we don’t have a nay anymore– No, it’s okay, I’ll abstain No, that’s okay, I can record it as nay if you like, what would you like? I’d like nay All of a sudden, my menu has changed to aye, and not now, and abstain, and absent, Vivian Malauulu? Yea Uduak-Joe Ntuk? Aye Doug Otto? Aye Sunny Zia? Nay I’ll have to change that (mumbles) The motion passes, and we move onto the next agenda item, and so we have agenda item 5.1, and I’m gonna pass this back to President Malauulu Thank you, Trustee Otto, item 5.1 is electric vehicle charging stations, this is an information item I will defer to Vice President Drinkwine, who has information that she will present Thank you, I’m presenting from the podium so that I can be joined by Walter Johnson, who is our Senior Director of Facilities We are presenting to you this evening a short overview of our electric vehicle charging stations You’ll see that later in the agenda, we do have an item for your approval regarding the fees to be charged at these stations, and so in this presentation, we hope to give you a short overview of what they are, where will they be, and how much will they cost us Yeah, I will continue with the next slide The agenda item consists of background with the district-wide energy project, electric vehicle charging station location, electric vehicle charging infrastructure, project funding and fees, and then questions and answers To achieve our goal of zero net energy by 2025, there are four key projects and strategy that the district has embarked upon The first one is energy and potable water use reduction strategy That’s a correction that I’m making here at the podium, if you look at the screen, it said portable, but that should be potable And one of the reasons, one of the things that we are doing as a district to reduce potable water is that we’re using non-potable water for our irrigation system We’re using that to flush the toilet, and we’re also (mumbles) out with new project and renovation projects, efficient plumbing fixtures, which are low-flow toilets and low-flow urinals Our number two strategy is renewable energy production strategy, and we’re achieving that

by implementing solar PV array systems at both this, at the LAC campus and the PCC campus We have solar PV panels on the parking structure here at LAC, and they will also be on the parking structure, the new parking structure at the PCC campus Our third strategy is a thermal storage strategy for (mumbles), and what this does is utilizes standard HVAC equipment that we already have in place in all our facilities, plus an energy storage tank, and by collecting energy on the off hours, mainly at night, we can save energy, with a possible cost in reduction by 50%, and what this does is, energy is stored at off-peak hours during the night, and then it’s released throughout the building during the daytime So it is time released throughout the building Our fourth strategy is clean energy use strategy for transportation, and that takes us to our installing electric vehicle charging stations at this campus, LAC campus, and also at the PCC campus And if we go to the next slide, as you can see, by June of 2021 we are expected to have 138 EV chargers installed, plus an additional 45 clean air vehicle spaces at PCC’s P2 new parking structure It also will have 67 parking structure, 67 stalls at our parking structure here on the LAC campus, on the first floor of the parking garage, in the parking structure At lot number 10, we’ll have 27 stalls at our PCC campus, and we’ll have 33 stalls at the P2 parking structure, which is scheduled to start fall of 2020 Well, the available fall of 2020 We will also have 11 stalls, electric vehicle stalls, at our new KLAC facility that’s scheduled for this construction this fall So that would give us a total of 138 EV charging stalls by June 2020 If you look at the next slide, this shows the location of those EV charging stalls, and where they’ll be located The first one is the LAC parking structure, as you can see highlighted in green Those will be the location of the first floor of the parking structure here on the LAC campus, and if you look at right beside it, it’s the PCC parking lot number 10 Those highlighted areas represent the stalls that will be at the PCC parking lot Our next slide is the P2 parking structure at PCC You’ll see the highlighted areas there, that will be the EV charging stalls at the new parking structure We’re excited about getting that project constructed, it’s gonna be a beautiful facility, and it’s integrating the art deco design of existing buildings, and it’s also an opportunity for an identifier for people coming up PCH, you could actually, that building will anchor that corner So you will have people see Long Beach City College, glaring at them when you come up the PCH Our next slide is the, we call it the KLAC, which is the new project coming online with the Kinesiology Lab and Aquatic Center at LAC And if you look at the highlighted areas to the left, you will see the parking stalls there, the black, and if you look to the right of that, that’s the, well, it’ll be the new soccer field And at that existing parking lot, you’ll see that kind of little blue, but that was, I guess the one that printed, but that was highlighted earlier to represent the new parking stall that will be in that location So we are very excited about the possibility, the cost savings, of having electric vehicle charging stations on campus We’re looking forward to faculty, staff, and students being able to use those devices Oh, sorry

Okay, the next slide is the electric vehicle charging infrastructure This is a partnership with Southern California Edison, which it’s called a Charge Ready program From an infrastructure standpoint, Southern California Edison, they design, install, and they will own and maintain the infrastructure, and all of this is done to support the California Zero Emission Policy But as far as the charging unit, the district buys, installs, and maintains the charging units, and the value to the district is the cost The infrastructure cost is estimated at $500,000.00 for the LAC campus, and $300,000.00 for the PCC campus, for a total of $800,000.00 And also, as an added bonus, Southern California Edison would provide a rebate to the district for a portion of the cost of the charge, for an estimated total of $50,000.00 for LAC and PCC And so we did bring to you Admin Reg 7000 in May, and this regulation, we updated to specifically add section 6.1, and 6J that talk about the usage of our spaces for exclusive EV charging And so that Admin Reg states that any vehicle that’s parked at one of those stalls and is not actively charging or does not display a valid parking pass could get ticketed So the idea here is that we want to preserve these spaces for electric vehicles that are charging In addition, per some California regulation, we do allow clean air vehicles to park there if they are natural gas vehicles, for instance Obviously, they’re not charging, but if they display the correct sticker, they will be allowed to park there And so that’s already been adopted in our regs, what needs approval, however, are the fees that we will charge, we are incredibly grateful to Southern California Edison to give us roughly $850,000.00 worth of infrastructure and rebates, however, that does not mean we don’t have costs The average cost of electricity to us is 14 cents per kilowatt hour, in addition, we do have service fees It does cost us to pay the firm to run the charge ready stations, and to accept credit cards, as you know, most vendors who accept credit cards have to pay a portion of that transaction, as do we, it’s not free And we also have ongoing maintenance fees So when we look at a combination of the cost of energy on that per kilowatt hour, plus our estimation of the combination of the administration fees for the charge ready points, as well as maintenance fees on an ongoing basis, we estimate those to be about 15 cents per kilowatt hour So it’s our recommendation that we charge the users, regardless of whether they’re students, staff, faculty, or community members, a single rate of 29 cents per kilowatt hour, which reflects our recovery of our costs However, we would prefer not to have drivers of these vehicles completely use up space for the entire day, we want to ensure that that is movement in these spots Although initially we believe we will have an excess of EV charging stations, we do see that the movement towards electric vehicles is great, and more people will be driving them And so we would like to impose a surcharge after a four hour period of $1.50, and that is an incentive to charge for only four hours We selected four hours for a couple of reasons, one is that if you’re taking a class, you’ll be able to park, take your class, and move your car And the second is that most vehicles can charge adequately within four hours, we’re using what’s called a level two charge station, which charges at a much, much higher rate than you would in your typical home, if you’re plugging in and haven’t done an upgrade So we wanted to be really thoughtful about the average amount of time for use, as well as what those, one more time, there we go, what that would be as a convenience factor We also compared to our neighbors, we certainly didn’t want to have a fee that was prohibitive, but we wanted to make sure what we were charging was reasonable When we look at our nearby colleges, you can see that Cal State Long Beach has a bifurcated rate, 25 cents per kilowatt hour for students,

staff, and faculty, 40 cents for guests El Camino is, across the board, 30 cents Orange Coast College is $1.25 for the first four hours, and that’s a per hour rate, so not a per kilowatt hour So understand that a kilowatt hour is a measurement of energy, and an hour, obviously, is time You can charge several kilowatt hours within an hour, and it depends entirely on your specific vehicle, but using, as a standard, if we look, for instance, at a Toyota Prius, it would, for a full charge ’cause those batteries are smaller, a buck 28 to fully charge it But if you were looking at a Tesla, which has a super big battery, it would actually take eight hours to charge, and once you get past the surcharge, it’s $62.00 And if you go mid-range with a Chevy Volt, it’s about $4.64, so I want to be very clear here We’re proposing a per kilowatt hour charge because that represents a recovery of our costs, and not a per hour And so when you compare that to Orange Coast College with the $1.24 an hour, or $3.00 an hour after four hours, that’s more consistent, but it will, the actual charge will vary upon the driver’s actual car and how much they are charging And then Pasadena uses an hour, as well, $1.00 an hour for the first four, or $2.00 an hour for each thereafter There are commercial enterprises that offer electric vehicle charging, Walgreens is 30 cents per kilowatt hour The Exchange is 25 cents per kilowatt hour for the first three hours, $3.00 thereafter, and the City of Signal Hill is 55 cents per kilowatt hour My understanding is that there are some areas here and there that do free, but those spots get filled up fast And so what we believe we’ve offered is reasonable, allows us to recover our costs We were asked to review a specific code that allows the state of California to offer electric vehicle charging without violating the state constitutional prohibition against a gift of public funds We were happy to receive a legal opinion regarding that, and the legal opinion, if I may summarize, says basically that this code does not apply to us specifically Whether or not that would be a challenge in court, we’d have to see, there is no precedent, but that as written, as strictly written, it does not allow community colleges to offer energy for free to any person without violating that prohibition What questions can we answer for you? – [Vivian] I saw Trustee Baxter’s hand– – [Virginia] But if, okay– – [Vivian] And then Trustee Ntuk Thank you for the presentation I have a couple of questions First of all, first thing that came into my mind is, if I’m a faculty member, and so I park my electric vehicle, I’m not on an three hour time basis, maybe I’m on a six hour or an eight hour time basis And that also means I’ve got to move my car, I don’t have an electric vehicle, I should tell you But I’m just seeing the thought process, and maybe your answer is, don’t park in the EV space, and that solves the whole thing But I am concerned about the idea that you would move your car in four hours I get the three hour class, but some students might have two classes, one after the other It just seems to me that this is gonna make a lot of running around, that’s an observation And how are they going to, is it like a parking meter that you put in for four hours, or you put your credit card in, and then how do you know when to take your credit card out? Am I asking kind of dumb questions? (overlapping chattering) I have the audience, they’re telling me I’m not, okay So the answer to your first question is that you have a parking permit, we’re not gonna ticket you unless you don’t have a parking permit, or unless you’re parking a regularly fueled vehicle, not an electric vehicle So you won’t get a ticket if you have the EV, and you have a parking permit If you’re unable to come and unplug your car from the charger after four hours, and you’re not at a full charge because if you’re at a full charge, you can’t continue to charge your car, right, you’re at fully charged, then you will be charged the $1.50 per kilowatt hour

So if for some reason you’re unable to make it out, you will be charged at the higher rate after you hit four hours, we will not ticket you, you will be charged a greater amount And so that is part of the balance, that if you don’t want that higher rate of charge, you’ll have to come and unplug, or if you decide it’s more convenient for you, I know that some drivers, for instance, live in apartments, and they don’t have the ability to charge at home, they may anticipate that that’s gonna be the extra cost for them The answer to your second question, how do these work, these work a lot like parking permit stations that accept your credit card So when you pull in and you’re going to charge, you’ll follow the instructions on the charge point machine You’ll enter your car, it doesn’t stay there So the machine keeps your card information, and it will continue to charge after you’re gone, as long as your car is accepting the charge So for instance, in my example, if you’ve parked and you just want to top off your charge, and so you plug your car in and you come back four hours later, but if it’s only charged 10 kilowatt hours, then that’s what you’re going to get paid for And so that’s the same answer to either of those, that you’re only being charged for the actual energy that you’ve charged your battery with Now, if at some point, several years down the road, so sorry, when we’re living in the future and we’re all driving electric vehicles, and if those spots are completely used all the time, then yes, maybe we’ll come back to you But it is not our intent to ticket anybody who stays after four hours, you would just get charged more for the energy usage So you’re gonna have separate staff charging, and separate student charging? No, for our proposal, and let me go back to that proposal slide, our proposal is not to have varying rates, we will simply charge each person for what our costs are, which is the 29 cents So again, about half of that 14 cents represents the actual cost of the energy, the remaining is for coverage of our maintenance and licensing and credit card administration fees – [Virginia] Go ahead Thank you so much, I’m really glad to see this come forward, I know this is something we’ve talked about over the last year, and clarified and looked at state legislation and infrastructure, and different matching funds So it’s great to see, getting almost a million dollars from Southern California Edison, and about $800,000.00 is big for us And I guess I have a couple questions, the practicality of it, I appreciate that we have the priority spacing, that the electric vehicle spacing is in the best parking places, and so both, at the multiple campuses and locations, to incentivize people and make it visible, that the option is there I guess a question is, if I have the EV, the correct EV sticker, but I don’t have a parking pass and I’m a guest, do I also gotta plug in and pay for four hours, and go get a $5.00 daily pass? Is that still, will be the process, I guess? That is correct, if you are a guest and don’t have a parking permit, then you would first plug in and pay, or first go to the machine and buy your $2.00 a day So your cost as a non-faculty student or staff would be an additional $2.00 per day parking because that is the parking fee, that is correct I guess I, and just to clarify, the signage will say a four hour parking limit, correct? The signage will be very clear and state the rates for the first four hours, and then the rate for each, for after those first four hours But I guess you don’t need to move your car after four hours? No, it is an incentive to move your car after four hours because if you will allow it to continue to charge, it’s more expensive, yes And then I’m, I noticed our current solar power chargers are not that great, and actually have a backup diesel system that defeats the whole purpose of it What are we gonna do for our own electric vehicle fleet? Do we have chargers for campus vehicles? And I’m not even sure what our percentage of our fleet, besides the golf cart, which is electric We do have electric vehicle chargers at our yard, next to our primary building Those ones we don’t allow for personal use, obviously, because they’re not set up to collect a charge for somebody using them You simply plug in and we pay for the electricity So we have a separate charge, and on your point

with the solar panel charging stations, just as a point of information, the company that owns those and leased them to us for $1.00 for a five year period has gone bankrupt, and we are currently trying to determine who the proper owner of those units are so that we can have them collect them Unfortunately, as you can imagine, it is difficult to do so, and so we are trying to find the proper people to notice so that we may remove them So if you wonder why they are still hanging around, we don’t want to incur any liability for their movement until we can determine who the owner actually is But you are right, that they are not effective, and they actually use diesel fuel as a backup And I guess, last question, the I guess cost recovery on signage and infrastructure that’s not covered by So Cal Edison, is that built into the fees that we anticipate getting a payback period, and then sometime in the future we’ll reduce the fees? Or are all the fines that people would get in the green spots for not being a green vehicle, would that go towards cost recovery of the infrastructure? So with Southern California Edison is giving us is the actual infrastructure itself They are installing it underneath, for instance, at the parking structure here, they actually are going to install it And in the future, we will be bringing to you some approval of easements that are necessary to allow them to do that If, for some reason, we did not like these and we wanted to remove them, we would actually owe Edison money at that point because they’ve spent the money to install them, they own that portion of it What we own, we own the charging stations, and we have to pay administration fees to ChargePoint, which operates the charging stations, and it collects the credit cards So our costs are threefold, they are the maintenance of the charging stations, they are to pay ChargePoint for the administration, and it is for the cost of accepting credit cards And so for those, we ran averages of what the car would charge, of kilowatt hours over a certain amount of time, and we believe 15 cents per kilowatt hour allows us to recover those fees After five years, we expect the maintenance fees to increase because equipment starts to lose its performance after a certain period of time, so yes If we determine that the cost of maintenance of those stations increase, or if at some future point in time, we need to upgrade them because technology changes, then we would reevaluate the cost structure and come back to you And we would be more than happy to present a report an hour, or, excuse me, a year after we implement and start using these stations to let you know, what did that look like? Were we correct on our charges, and did they actually recover our costs? – [Uduak-Joe] Thank you – [Vivian] Any additional questions, Trustee Baxter? Yeah, I just have one, and it doesn’t have to do with the electric charging, I’m sorry, it has to do with the potable water at PCC, because I’m also a big advocate of this And several years ago, they said it was impossible Are you in an agreement with the city to bring reclaimed water to the campus, or are you not, and you may not be in a position to answer that question Well, right now, we are actually utilizing that now, sorry We did a re-landscaped building, is it O? Right, Building O, right across the street, and so we’re using non-potable water now That was one of our projects, non-potable water now to use with irrigation for that particular So yes, I’m in favor of using– So you’re using water from Hamilton Bowl, and bringing it across? Yeah Yeah, oh, no, that’s wonderful And I wondered why that didn’t happen before when I asked, so very good, excellent Any additional comments or questions? Yes, I’m sorry, Student Trustee Jones? Yes, just a couple of quick questions I guess first is, and excuse me if this question was already answered, what spaces, particularly looking at the LAC parking structure, what spaces there have been identified for conversion, are those regular, unmarked stalls, are those staff stalls typically, or? They are a combination of staff and other stalls A great deal of that first floor is currently dedicated to staff, once these become EV charging spots, they are open to either faculty, students, or the public, they no longer have priority for staff use Okay, and– We do believe, though, when we look at the number of spots that we have, and that we’re putting 67 stalls in LAC,

we think that will be more than enough to accommodate the current demand here So I don’t believe that it would be, it would be more than sufficient to accommodate the needs of both students and staff and faculty And then how are these particular spots identified for conversion? Their identification was largely dictated by the installation of the infrastructure by Edison So you can imagine that the further away the spot is from the electrical infrastructure, the more expensive it is to bring that in And so that’s why we are having, there we go, that’s why you see it on the first floor It’s both to have a priority and incentive to drive electric vehicles, but it also allows the least cost to have that infrastructure reach those spots And so that also helped dictate their placeage on the first floor at PCC structure, as well as their locations here in the future You’ll see that we don’t have these spaces way out in the middle, for instance, of the parking lot surrounding Veterans Stadium This is nearer Clark, it’s near the softball field, where there’s already electrical infrastructure that will be installed, so the cost is a huge dictator of where we can put these spots Also, it allows for easy maintenance, coming from the facility team, as well And as far as Southern California Edison, it allows for them to have access to those charge point stations, as well, just in case we do have to do in a repair for, or in a future replacement, so it’s easy access Okay, and then I guess kind of a followup, Vice President Drinkwine, you mention that the 67 spots should be more than enough to cover the demand, what data do we have that I guess predicted or described the demand that we’re anticipating for these spots? Well, first, there are actually new codes for the ratio of electric vehicle charging spots to regular spots, much like we have handicap spots So this is something that we have to be in compliance with, and so we’re following those ratios But we do know anecdotally, from the usage of the solar charging stations, that those were at times unavailable to some folks, but it never was overwhelming the demand And we also know that we can’t predict the future We anticipate greater demand in the future, and at that point, we would revisit And the cost for expanding the number of spots would then be worthwhile, but at this point, this should accommodate our need Okay, and then I think one final question So just from personal experience, I understand that typically, and I’m asking mostly about the LAC structure because, looking here, parking lot 10, I understand, is primarily used by staff and faculty, from my understanding, as well as the P2, that’s an expansion of parking So I don’t anticipate that being as much of a problem, but I am concerned about losing 67, potentially, spots for our students ’cause I know that this structure during the peak times of our classes tends to fill up already, and it’s hard for our students already to get spots And I believe that this may potentially be harmful to our students being able to get in, get sufficient parking, and get to class Do we have any considerations for how are we gonna offset that? It will decrease the amount of spots that are available for regular vehicles, for both students, staff, and faculty The converse relationship to an incentive is that there’s a disincentive, so providing this parking for electric vehicles means that there’s a natural disincentive for regular vehicles There is always adequate parking surrounding Veterans Stadium, it is further away from the classroom buildings, but that is likely where some students would have to relocate, that if there were less parking spaces for regular gas vehicles in the parking structure, then the demand would have to be relocated over to the parking lot surrounding Veterans Stadium All right, thank you Any additional questions? I’d like to thank you for a very comprehensive

and thorough report, just to make sure there’s no misunderstanding, the parking spots don’t come with the electric vehicles, right? I just want to make sure You never know, right, people might think that You did a great job, thank you We’re gonna move onto item 6.1 This is the consent agenda, are there any items that anyone would like to pull off the consent agenda? All right, seeing none, I will entertain a motion to approve the consent agenda – [Doug] So moved – [Virginia] Second All right, it has been moved and seconded to approve the entire consent agenda, any discussion? All right, I’ll call for the vote Donnell Jones? Aye All those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? All right, the consent agenda has been approved in its entirety, item 6.2 is approval of the consent agenda, with items, Madame Secretary, I just want to make sure that we’re gonna do 6.3 to 6.18 in sum, all of them together? – [Doug] I think we did all– [Madame Secretary] Those are all the consent, through 6.18 Oh, I’m sorry – [Doug] Right, 6.1– Oh (overlapping chattering) Got it, I crossed out the wrong item, my bad – [Doug] I think we’re at 7.1 Thank you, Trustee Otto, we’re gonna go onto academic affairs, item 7.1 This is an action item, revised board policy, an administrative regulation, 4014, the study abroad residency, and this is asking that the board approve and adopt the revised policy courses as submitted This is an action item, so I’ll entertain a motion for that – [Doug] So moved [Uduak-Joe And Virginia] Second It has been moved and seconded, any discussion? All those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? Donnell Jones? Aye Sorry, Madame Chair I have to get used to that All right, we’re going to item 7.2, which is, and it’s a first reading of new board policy and administrative regulation 4030, the academic calendar This is a first reading, is there anyone, member of the staff that would like to report on this item? Vice President Scott? Thank you very much, we previously did not have a policy or a regulation on the academic calendar, and we are required to have one So that’s why we created one, we’ve just used the League’s basic language with our own dates, of course, our own decisions that we’ve made as an institution But that’s why it’s here, is that we just, we needed to be in compliance and have a regulation and policy, and so we’ve completed one Thank you very much, any additional discussion or questions for Dr. Scott? All right, that is a first reading, that item will return on the September 11th agenda for a second reading and a possible action We’re moving onto section eight of the agenda, administrative services, 8.1, it’s an MOU between LBCCD and Compton Community College District and Cerritos Community College District for the development of academic and student support services collaboration This is an action item, and at this time, before we open up to the motion and discussion, I’d like to defer to staff, if they’d like to present any information, Dr. Romali? Yes, I had a meeting recently, several meetings recently with staff, Dr. Scott, Dr. Munoz, Mrs. Drinkwine, and we met with the presidents of Compton College and Cerritos College, and we admitted that there’s so much competition between us that we felt that students deserved a great option at all three colleges And to that, and there are a number of regional opportunities that might be available to us, particularly in high cost programs, that either we offer or they offer But according to title five, there need to be various permissions granted for those students out of district to come to us And we wanted to kind of break down the barriers between the three districts, and allow students an opportunity to take advantage of the best programs For example, the Lynwood Unified School District would like to send their culinary students here, they are in the Compton District For example, there are many cosmetology students

in Long Beach that would like a cosmetology program, but we do not have one, so they would like to go to Compton, so what we want to do, we recognized that there are a number of opportunities like this, these are the first two that have come about But there are a number of opportunities like this where we might be able to explore with the Chancellor’s Office Regional Consortiums, and we wanted to have the board approve us, begin talks on exploring what some of these ventures might look like, what they might cost, what type of title five impact there might be, if there’s any Chancellor’s Office discussions that we need to have Cerritos and Compton have already passed this at board meetings I believe either this week or last week They’re super excited to have Long Beach in a regional consortium, it could work much the same way that many regional consortiums work, our Strong Workforce LAOCRC Consortia, just a regional consortium so that students have great opportunities to attend these three great colleges Any additional information from staff before we go to a motion? All right, I’ll entertain a motion on this item So moved – [Doug] Second It has been moved and seconded, to accept this MOU between the three college districts, and I’ll open it up to discussion on this item, Trustee Ntuk? Thank you, I saw Jackie going, I was like, hold on No, thank you so much for bringing this forward, I know we’ve discussed it with Dr. Romali for a little while, and I think about this as somewhat of the closest thing we get to a non-compete agreement, or a regional trade policy, that we’re agreeing to exchange students And in my district, the top three community colleges that students go to is Long Beach City College, Cerritos, and Compton, and so I think it’s an opportunity for us to increase enrollment It’s an opportunity for us to really have, extend the college promise beyond our traditional boundaries I know I’ve spoken with the Board President at Lynwood Unified who’s excited, they’ve come and done a tour here on campus, they want to formalize a partnership with us, and this is the first step down that pathway And we think about when we want to serve the students or the community that’s mostly in need, 90805 has the lowest educational attainment, lowest graduation rates, or high school graduation rates, and it has the highest need community in the country, in our service area, that that’s the population center that we say we want to get to that percent of, 44% of folks should have AA degrees We’re gonna find them in 90805, and so this is a big step towards helping us serve the community better, extend the College Promise, and play nice with our adjacent college districts So I’m really excited to see this move forward – [Vivian] Trustee Baxter? Yeah, I have a question, and Trustee Ntuk, I’m glad you brought this up When you say “Extend the College Promise,” are you talking about the scholarships, or you, because you’re gonna have to get an agreement with the Foundation, whose obligation right now is Long Beach Unified School District boundary Oh, my question, well, I know the state provides additional money for College Promise– So that’s what you’re talking– I know other districts take any high school graduate, not just from a particular school district I know that we haven’t got to that decision point yet, but I think it’s probably something on the horizon we could revisit But that was my thinking of the potential– – [Virginia] I just don’t want to plant something in somebody’s mind without the funding Yeah, this is the beginning, not the decision, yes, I agree (overlapping chattering) It looks like Dr. Munoz– Just to provide clarification, so currently for the Long Beach College Promise, we are offering two years of free college tuition, the first year covered by AB19 funds, which is the California College Promise, second year by the Foundation, and we do provide one year of guaranteed free tuition for students outside of our service area through AB19 So Lynwood would currently get one year of tuition, so we’re reserving the two years commitment for Long Beach Unified at this point – [Virginia] Okay, great, thank you – [Uduak-Joe] Thank you – [Vivian] Any additional comments, yes, Trustee Otto? Well, Mr. Lipton will come back in a minute, I guess I’m interested in why we need a whole (mumbles) and indemnification clause, and what that means in terms of what gets covered You must be an attorney (audience laughs) But I watch a lot of movies with attorneys (background noise drowns out speaker) – [Marlene] I can address that – [Vivian] Vice President Drinkwine? I can address that, I will say that our contracts team is very thorough,

and this is their favorite clause Doesn’t make it good In the event that we, in pursuit of structuring these partnerships, we want to make sure that if we have events at one another’s locations, that there is no restriction on how big that gathering has to be, if we want to do some piloting, we wanted to have this some place right from the get go so that it wouldn’t restrict us if we have some larger event as we’re trying to finalize these agreements and these types of partnerships I guess my only concern is if something happens on one of these other campuses that we have absolutely nothing to do with, do we wind up contributing to a resolution of those problems (mumbles) I can speak to a recent experience, it’s pretty common when we have our facilities use agreements, for instance, Long Beach Unified, when they were using our facilities for graduation, had an injury, and we were not responsible It’s very similar in its structure there, so that if our agents or our people were injured some place else, and we’re accepting responsibility, the same for them, yes – [Doug] Okay, I’m just, it’s– Anybody else, yes, Dr. Romali? I just want to say thank you and commend the board I think this is absolutely groundbreaking beyond our dreams, I’m a firm proponent of Brown versus Board of Education and school choice I think that title five unnecessarily restricts students and their choice, it tracks them according to where they live, which is geography and socioeconomics, and I don’t think any student should have the right to choose, or I believe that every student should have the right to choose where they go to college, not be tracked into a particular college based on where they live So I think this is groundbreaking in wonderful ways, and I want to thank you for your support, I’m very proud Anyone else, yes, Student Trustee? Just really briefly, so I think this is, at least on the surface level, it looks like a great opportunity for the students in these combined areas to be able to get access to programs that they wouldn’t be able to in their home district The only concern that I do have would be in regards to any kind of, I guess, prioritization, or any kind of shortage for the students that in our district in these programs that may be adversely impacted by students coming from other districts How does that, how would that work and how would our students be affected by that? In terms of, you think that possibly students might be negatively affected by the additional students that might come from additional districts? Right, so say if students coming from Compton were to come in and enroll here, but students in our district would no longer have space to be able to get into classes if they fill up, like for the culinary program, for example I think having extra students is what we call a good problem. (laughs) So we definitely have growth, with the enrollment drop that we’ve had, we definitely have capacity to take care of these students, and I say, come one, come all, I think this is the best college in, not only in town, but in the state of California So if they’re gonna come here, I’m gonna find a space for them to be educated – [Donnell] Awesome, thank you Any other comments? So Student Trustee Jones, I agree with your concern and your question, but I also agree with Dr. Romali’s response, that that’s a great problem to have, and I personally know students who do not live in the boundary of our district who attend here very willingly and very eagerly So it is a great problem to have, and we certainly welcome them I have a couple of procedural questions, and if it hasn’t been ironed out, then it’s okay, we can defer this some other time I’d just like to know if a student will be paying tuition at the three other, at the two other colleges, if they’ll be paying one time tuition? And then I’d like to know if they are attending concurrently here, taking classes there, and then the last question that I have is if students, say, for example, if a student is enrolled at LBCC, taking a math class, and doesn’t do well here, but then goes to Cerritos or Compton and takes the same math class, how does that affect the transcript? What will happen in terms of canceling out that class? So those are three questions, I don’t know if you need me to parcel them out No, you’re, those are excellent questions, and we haven’t figured it out yet There will be a lot of different details that we will need to figure out We had all of the different vice presidents at the meetings, there’s a lot of different intricacies that we’re gonna need to work out

and hash out and agree upon, and this agreement says that we’re gonna start exploring We’ll probably do some easier ones first that might be beneficial to students, and then tackle some of the more complex ones Got it, and because of what we talked about earlier with adjunct, it is very possible that a student will take a class at each of the three colleges and have the same professor, because our adjuncts are teaching at all three colleges, so that’s a very probably possibility So just be mindful of that, all right, thank you very much We do have a motion on the floor with a second, this closes the discussion, so at this time, I’d like to call for the vote Madame Secretary– Donnell Jones? – [Donnell] Aye All right, all those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? Well done Well done, thank you, all right We’re gonna move onto item 8.2, and this is a followup to our staff presentation earlier, electrical vehicle charging fee, this is an action item that the board approve the electric vehicle charging fee as submitted, and we just had a very comprehensive report on that It’s 29 cents for the first hour, $1.50 every hour thereafter, so anything additional from staff, or are we good on that, before we call for the motion – [Marlene] Just to clarify, it’s per kilowatt hour Oh, sorry, kilowatt hour, that’s right Okay, all right, so at this time, I’ll take a motion, please – [Uduak-Joe] I move approval Second Any discussion? All right, Madame Secretary? Oh, I’m sorry, you’re gonna have to speak up ’cause I can’t hear your hands, so just get my attention, okay, thank you Will do, no worries, so the only concern that I have here about this is, well, I know that there was the concern about the gift of public funds if we were to decide not to implement a fee And according to what was in the presentation, as it stands right now, it doesn’t appear that we would be in violation of that by not implementing this fee, even though it is, it’s open for challenge in court And so in light of the fact that it does take away, the implementation of these spots could potentially take away from parking for students here, but also the fee could, could be I guess negatively impactful for not only our students, but also our staff and faculty, which would impact our students, I would be against implementing this if we don’t have to I’ll defer that to Vice President Drinkwine, if you’d like to respond to that Thank you, we are required to install these charging stations at the new lot If we forego the installation at the existing lots as described, we would be foregoing the value of the Southern California Edison ChargeReady Program, it would not be offered again My understanding of the legal opinion is that the exemption from the gift of public funds does not apply to us, the legal opinion went onto say that if we offered it free of charge, there’s a possibility we wouldn’t lose in a lawsuit However, I would recommend that we charge a fee Okay, any additional questions? All right, so let’s go ahead and call for the vote, Madame Secretary? Donnell Jones? Nay All those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? All right, the motion carries, so we are gonna go onto item 8.3, revised board policy and administrative regulation 6009, bids and contracts This is a discussion item and a first reading I will defer this to Vice President Drinkwine for information, please Thank you This policy aligns with California procurement code that allows us to, under a $175,000.00 limit, have a not a strictly bid process, but still find the best value That dollar threshold is increased by law, and so what this board policy does is instead of stating the dollar amount in the policy, it actually refers to the code, so that we don’t have to continue to chase the dollar amount So annually, as that threshold is increased, it would automatically be applicable because the policy’s referencing the code, rather than the dollar amount Thank you very much, all right, this is just a discussion item Is there any additional discussion from the board members?

I had a question, with this new California contract code change, does this impact the, and I think our delegation authority for the superintendent president is 175 And I just see the numbers match up the same in the policy, did we need, does it impact that as well? The 175, the code allowed, effective January 1st, 2019, for it to be increased to 200,000 So the law changes occasionally in recognition of inflation, and so rather than bringing you the board policy that references the exact $200,000.00 limit, we’re reverting to code so when that happens again, it will continue to track that increase – [Uduak-Joe] I guess maybe it would be informative in the future if we can update it and just put in parentheses 200,000 so we know, otherwise, you would have to know to go, where in contract code to look up to know what the limit would be I don’t know if that’s possible, even though this is the first reading If we reference the dollar amount, even in parentheses, it means that future changes, we’d still have to bring it back to you again in the future for additional updates So it is your preference, but if we do more than reference the code, and if we put the dollar amount within the actual board policy, we’ll still need to continually update the board policy with each action, so alternately, if you didn’t want to have the code reference, I would recommend that you have the increase to $200,000.00, but that does mean that we’ll have an effort to bring it back to you, but we’re happy to take whatever approach you’d like – [Uduak-Joe] Do you know how frequently it changes? Is it– The code? – [Uduak-Joe] Yeah, I mean– The code was last, let me look at the reference The last update was in 2017, so it was two years ago And so it is up to– Bob has his hand up Bob is saying, thank you, I’m glad you saw Bob waving – [Vivian] Come on up, Bob, thank you – [Doug] Come on down (Bob mumbles) Part of a new plaque program I think we can address your concern, when we do the board agenda items, we usually put contracts under 175 or under for approval Going forward, we could reference the number on the board agenda items, so that if this was approved at 6009, it would automatically update every year without reflecting back, but every board meeting, you would get to see contracts at 200,000 or under, and then when it goes up again, maybe in two years, contracts, 220,000 or under, so you would always be informed of that, that might be a solution to the situation Okay, yeah, I think whatever staff thinks is best It’s just some form of reference, beyond, we all don’t know what that contract code means when we see it, and it just makes it easier for future references Absolutely, and we can certainly provide a report, as that public contract code is amended, so that we can inform you specifically that, effective this date, the limit has been raised, yeah Thanks, thank you, Bob Okay, any additional questions? All right, so this is just a discussion, first reading, it will return on the September 11th agenda as a second reading, and possible action item We will move onto student services, item 9.1, resolution, support of students, experience food and housing insecurity So I’ll defer that to Dr. Munoz for information before we go into this as an action item Thank you, Board President, so what you have before you is a resolution in support of our students who experience food and housing insecurity This resolution essentially has outlined many of the ways in which the college is already currently supporting our students who are experiencing food and housing insecurity, as well as additional measures that we plan on implementing to address these concerns You also have included, in addition to the resolution, an update that provides you with the most recent efforts in what we’re doing to support our students, and this is a joint effort with Vice President Drinkwine, as well as with Aaron Murphy So I’ll take any questions that you may have Anybody have any questions for Dr. Munoz? I have one question, I’m hearing that there’s an event happening at PCC on Friday, there’s a food donation event Who is organizing that event, and is that a board scheduled event, or is that a staff scheduled event?

I don’t know if anybody else has been notified Yes, Joshua Castianos, is he here? He is managing that event, and he is going to be inviting the whole board I will wait to see if he comes back, and we will ask him where we are in that Oh, he’s in the back, okay Okay, so there’s, I just want to be clear, Dr. Romali, Joshua Castianos initiated an event to have food donation at the PCC campus, or what’s happening? And then the board will be invited, and this is the day after tomorrow? Yes, and Josh did not initiate it, my understanding is that the Carpenters would like to have another donations, the Carpenters donated food, I believe about 80 boxes last year They would again like to donate boxes, and Josh is coordinating that, and if he is hearing this on the TV, maybe he can come on out and tell you his plans, but apparently, maybe he isn’t – [Vivian] Okay We’ll get him for you so that he can answer– No problem, and I’ll let him jump right in and respond to that, so you would like to have board presence there on Friday, or? – [Reagan] If you would like to, if you would like to, you’re absolutely more than welcome We do, no invitations have gone out yet, but you will be the first to receive some Okay, so I just want to, because it is two days away, and I think as a courtesy to everybody’s schedule, here comes Josh right now Joshua, thank you so much, you’re coordinating donations of food from Southwest Carpenters this Friday, that’s awesome, we love our Carpenters They’ve done so much for us in the past, and we know that there’s an existing relationship there, so we’re very proud of that I was just kind of thrown off guard because I keep hearing, the PCC campus is in my area, and I keep hearing that there’s something happening Friday, but then the board hadn’t been notified You’re correct, and I had hoped that we could actually have an invitation for you on your dais today, but we were actually a little bit behind, we were trying to get the Campus Community newsletter, we just had College Day, a lot was happening In fact, we just had to kind of reschedule till this Friday, but it was on my to do – [Vivian] Okay, all right, what time is the event, and what time? So it’ll be Friday at noon, and what they’re gonna be doing is bringing about 150 boxes, and thanks to Trustee Zia, kind of got the email from them, so we’re gonna kind of do the same thing as last time, where they come, you bring it, and we’ll be carting it in But you’ll get more, yeah, you’ll get the– What time is that gonna happen? – [Josh] At noon Well, as board chair and as a representative of that part of the district, I will be very happy to be there to accept those boxes on behalf of the district – [Josh] Absolutely, and– I’m sorry, go ahead, and has– – [Josh] We were talking about it, but this is all happening pretty quickly, as far as, like I said, there was a lot that was happening, College Day, the beginning of the school year, and all that, and we’re gonna make it happen, though Okay, and has the press been notified? – [Josh] No, they’re going to, we’re gonna put out a press release– Okay, so there’ll be a press release from the college letting everybody know Just in the future, and I know, College Day was fantastic, and everybody was working around the clock, so I get it, but just, we just need a little bit more notice, and that, this is a huge event, and we want a lot of people to be there, and we want a lot of people to support the Carpenters, and let them know how much we appreciate it So we just want a lot of notice I agree, and in fact, while we were at the board meeting, I’m approving the flier, kind of text that’s gonna go out to the entire campus, but yeah Awesome, thank you, Josh You’re welcome Thank you very much I’d like to speak on– Trustee Zia? Josh, thank you for working on such a great timeline You guys have so much on your plate This isn’t necessarily to recognize any particular trustee, I happen to, based on my relationship, they happened to reach out to me, and wanted to offer, because this has been a project that Trustee Baxter and I have led So they just want to do their good deed, they didn’t even ask for press, so I don’t even know if there’ll be, what their desire is, they just want to drop off some boxes for our students and make it about our students, and make it about the cause So I understand, and I really appreciate all that you guys are doing, and hopefully we can keep the focus on what’s necessary and needed for these students that are truly in need of support And they’ve been the only source, from what I understand, that have been consistently giving this large amount of donations So they didn’t ask for any recognition, but certainly, if we can give them some love,

that would be fantastic Absolutely, and I think any time someone does something great like that, we want to recognize them and let other people know that we do have students that are in need, and there could be other folks that could help us out, as well, or help us– Yeah, and it would be lovely if all the board members can join us, but if their time doesn’t allow, they just want to drop off some boxes, so thank you Josh, you’re a very humble, and we thank you for all your hard work, but I do want to publicly acknowledge you so that the board can brag, I want to brag on you a little bit so that the board can know about your wonderful work Many members of your team pulled all nighters for two and three nights straight leading up to College Day and the beginning of school I know because some other members of this dais were pulling all nighters, and some other members of the audience were coming back at 2:30 in the morning from the Rolling Stones concert to make it all happen, and I just, I know that the board appreciates you very much, and I know that they would like to be aware You’re very humble, but I don’t mind bragging on you any day of the week I appreciate it, Dr. Romali, I feel lucky I come here every day and I think we have a great team, a great vision, your great staff I couldn’t feel any more lucky, and there’s a lot going on, and we try our best to make sure that everybody knows what’s happening But there’s so many good things that are happening, and it’s not a bad thing, that’s the way– – [Reagan] These are all good things, it’s gonna be fun Awesome, thank you very much I think Trustee Ntuk wanted to say something Yeah, not necessarily a Josh, but thanks, Josh Back to the agenda item of the resolution, I think this is really important that we take a policy position It’s great to have charity and talk about it and do fundraisers, but it’s about institutional change, and it’s about progressive institutional change, realigning our budgets, realigning our polices so that we’re, as a function of the government agency, we are better serving that student population And it is an estimate that anywhere from five to 20% of students are homeless, couch surfing, sleeping in their cars, at different family members’ house, or even on the street, that it’s a huge barrier to learning if you’re in that situation And for many students, it’s one missed financial aid check away from that happening to them And I remember my time as a low-income college student, you become, you find creative ways to make ends meet, and so I think it’s important that we talk about being hungry and on campus, and they make sure that folks know about the resources that are available But we gotta really do change, and not be reliant on charity because we, as an institution, have the ability, and I think it’s a state policy mandate, whether it’s opening showers for folks to, for clean hygiene, there’s more that we can do as an institution that’s officially within our governance structure So I think this is a first step, this is not the panacea solution, but in future contracts and future discussions, why are we doing this? Because the board took a declarative stance that this is the public policy of the institution And so I know I had a really good conversation with Dr. Romali in bringing this forward, and thank everybody for what they’re doing, but this is the beginning, then we gotta do a lot more ’cause it’s a big, increasing problem Not just for the college, but in the community at large, with housing insecurity – [Josh] Absolutely, we gotta go head on Yeah, so thank you Thank you very, very, very much to everybody who’s involved, Trustee Jones, Student Trustee Jones, sorry? No, it’s okay, just really quickly, echoing Ntuk’s remarks regarding this resolution, and us moving forward with providing for our students in need, as an aspiring qualitative researcher, I really believe that understanding, or having real life situations to back up what we’re doing here is important And to speak to this being really timely, this past Monday, we had a student actually come over to our ASB office and specifically ask us if we had an office for basic needs, and if we had a basic needs coordinator who would be able to help them with being able to find a place to stay, find a source of food, and other resources to be able to help them continue their education and move forward, but also to live like a human being, and give just, you know, so I think this is really great work, and really timely And it’s really important that we take a policy stance on this moving forward Okay, I just want to point out, when is the basic needs person going to start? So she started this past Monday

Okay, is she going to perhaps, at my suggestion, interview Trustee Zia and I, who have been working on this for a long time, and I’m having, we’re having a meeting Monday night, and I would love to have some kind of coordination, so we’re not duplicating efforts, that we’re all working together toward the same goal and the same model And I’m not trying to boss you around, Dr. Munoz, but I think it’s really, really important For instance, Donnell, any time any student comes to you, call me or Trustee Zia and the new coordinator But if, and I’m not being mean, but if the person does, here’s a list, you go and you go find, because what they’re gonna find out, ’cause I’ve done it myself, is you call here, you call here, you call here, you call here, and there isn’t anything So that’s why, if we can have a concerted effort and we can raise money to help, we’re willing to do it, so we just need that concerted effort I appreciate the comments, and let me assure you, great minds think alike ’cause I, following board protocol, spoke with Dr. Romali, and so my intent was to email you next week to set up a meeting to discuss how we could coordinate efforts so that there is an alignment And so that is definitely in place, as well as, we will be, as we begin to develop these new relationships with some of the different resources, one of the big barriers that we’re seeing right now with the food banks is because the Foundation and the charter of the Foundation, it doesn’t specifically say, serving underserved communities, that we cannot receive food from the food banks And so many of the community colleges had to redo their articles of incorporation so that they could receive food bank distributions So it’s really complex (mumbles), I have a lot of different things to update you on But we will be able to work in that concerted effort And I’m sorry, I did not mean to boss you around, I know I should have gone through President Romali who can boss you around, but we’re here together– She already bossed, she already told me, she gave me my marching orders, and she said I needed to reach out to the two of you, so that was definitely set for Monday You know, if I may? I want to invite all the trustees to join Trustee Baxter and I, and speaking of institutionalizing this, to start off by, we donate a portion of our stipend to scholarships for the homeless students, and I invite other trustees, if they truly, if they want to also help with the scholarship fund, there’s certainly opportunities to do that Thank you, thank you, I have been donating all of my stipend to the journalism scholarships, so it’s a little biased because I come from that department, so my monthly meeting stipend has been donated to journalism students So I really appreciate Trustee Zia’s invitation, and it’s a very noble one, and it’s something we hope to continue doing Is there any other discussion on this item before we continue? All right, so we’re gonna call for the question, this is an action item, I do have the resolution in front of me, so Madame Secretary, please? [Madame Secretary] You need a motion? We do, there was a motion, there was a motion and a second I sure don’t have it No, I don’t think there was– I’ll make the motion (Doug mumbles) Second All right, we have a motion and a second on the floor to adopt this resolution If that’s the case, then we were all out of order because we were asking questions and having discussion, I thought it was just staff discussion, so– [Madame Secretary] I think I fell asleep Mr. Lipton, we should all be called on that Okay, so we have a motion and a second on the floor, there will be no more discussion ’cause we’ve already discussed it So Madame Chair, please call for the vote [Madame Secretary] Donnell Jones? – [Donnell] Aye All those in favor? – [Board Members] Aye Any opposed? All right, this wonderful motion carries – [Virginia] I did not hear, Trustee Otto, did you make the motion, ’cause I heard Trustee Zia – [Sunny] I made the motion It was so long ago, I can’t remember if I made it– Your voice was so deep, was it you, Sunny? (overlapping chattering) I’m sleepy and losing my mind too All right, so now we’re gonna move onto item 9.2, which is the student transportation update This is an information item only, and this is Vice President Dr. Munoz Great, thank you, so again, you have before you an update on our buss pass pilot program Since the start of fall, we’ve expanded our bus pilot program this semester to include up to 1,000 students who would be eligible

for the transportation for the bus pass And so there’s a brief update, as well as a Frequently Asked Questions that’s posted online for students for your reference And so I’ll gladly take any questions that you may have – [Virginia] Can I just say one thing? – [Vivian] Absolutely I want to salute Trustee Ntuk because we have been working on this for years, and I told him, when he brought it up and I didn’t believe it would happen, that I would be nice to him for 24 hours, so I’m almost done (overlapping chattering) But anyway, it’s fantastic, fantastic (Doug mumbles) Thank you very much, Dr. Munoz, I know that this has been a long time coming, and I know that you and other staff members have worked really hard on this Was there another comment on this side? Hey, you guys are gonna have to speak up, I need to know, Trustee Ntuk? Yes, no, thank you, I know the city budget is yet to be adopted and there’s a proposal for about $350,000.00 in funding towards bus passes, collectively, Long Beach Unified, Long Beach City College, and Long Beach State Do we know yet how that will be apportioned to us, or? So my understanding is that the mayor’s office will be reconvening a work group meeting in the coming month, and so we’ll have more information when that becomes available Okay, and then the other thing, I didn’t notice that the Bus Pass Pilot Program lacks its full name – [Mike] That’s right We did, as the maker of the motion, and the board voted to call it the Strong Beach Bus Pass Pilot Program, I was disappointed to see it wasn’t referenced in our– – [Mike] I will make sure– I got about a dozen phone calls about, “When’s the bus passes coming out?” And I was hoping it would be on there, but it wasn’t I will make sure that we amend the FAQs, as well as when we do our fliers, that we add that there Maybe we can get Josh’s team to develop a logo, as well – [Uduak-Joe] Great, thank you (overlapping chattering) – [Vivian] Yes, Student Trustee? Just to kind of continue on, again, this is a great opportunity for our students Personally, this is a great help to me, as well I was actually just, I received an email saying that I would be eligible to receive one of these passes, due to being a member of the EOPS program And so I’m really grateful that this program is taking place and moving forward, and I’m hoping that this is successful, and that we’re able to build upon and expand in the future Thank you, again, Trustee Ntuk, for your leadership on this Sure, thank you, thank you so much But if I can, and I don’t know if you mentioned it, and I think Dr. Romali shared, the demand was half of what we thought, how did, did we have to issue more? So we are rapidly approaching the end of our first week, and so we’ll have some more concrete numbers I don’t know exactly how many to date we’ve issued (mumbles) ’cause I know the cashier’s been tracking that So, but what we can do is file this in a followup communications through Dr. Romali that will kind of update where we’re at at the end of the first week We have been dispersing passes since August 19th, and so I expect that we should hit close to the target, but we’ll have a better indication by the end of the first week – [Virginia] Was it that we hit target and we were asking for more passes? I will say that our supply depleted to the point where we called Transit and we said we needed more So they initially gave us 1,000 stickers They were able to give us an additional 100 stickers, and have promised us another big batch within a couple of weeks, so we have not yet run out We did indicate on our communications to the students that there were a limited amount immediately available, but we are prepared to continually give them to all eligible students, as long as there is the demand, which is part of the purpose of the pilot It’s not just the sticker itself, but then it’s tracking the actual ridership that will determine the cost, but we are happy to continue to give them to all eligible students Thank you very much, anything else on that item? So question on that, it’s an information item, but will it return to the board? Is that an ongoing, fluid item? Will we ever need to vote, take action on that? What we did is we had indicated that all of the major projects would receive updates when we had them, ideally monthly, but if we didn’t have them, we would wait until we had an update This one is considered concluded in terms of its action, but we will bring regular reports back, perhaps semesterly, in terms of how are things going, what kind of bragging numbers can we have, because it’s sound like these are gonna be some real bragging numbers and bragging rights And we’ll bring that to you, probably, I think, on a semester basis might be a good idea

No problem, thank you, and there’s no need to vote on that Okay, all right, so we’re gonna move onto our reports, we’re gonna start with our Academic Senate President, item 10.1 Good evening, thank you, I was able to join fellow Academic Senate presidents at the Statewide Academic Senate California Community College’s Leadership Institute in Sacramento recently It was a wonderful opportunity to work with colleagues and meet the representatives of area D, to which Long Beach City College is a part of as a regional group Many terrific workshops were held, and we even had a meeting with the Chancellor and his staff, many who used to work at Long Beach City College, so it was fun As you’re aware, faculty professional development falls under the purview of the Academic Senate One of our most fun activities is the new faculty orientation, the college welcomed 14 new faculty this fall, and they were all able to participate in this summer’s orientation On Wednesday, August 14th, we spent the day on the Liberal Arts Campus, and on Thursday, August 15th, we spent the day on the Pacific Coast Campus Workshops were held, campus tours were given, and lots of helpful information was disseminated It’s a wonderful group of folks, and they are excited to be at Long Beach City College, and they are anxious to champion the success of our students You will have an opportunity to meet all of them at the September 11th board meeting Many individuals to thank, but in particular, Dr. Cathy Scott and Dr. Mike Munoz, for helping us kick off the first morning of orientation Dr. Romali joined us the next day on the Pacific Coast Campus, the Newport cohort is still talking about how they can’t believe they had you all to themselves for a morning, it was the highlight for them So I thank you for the generosity of your time The Management Association, under the leadership of Aaron Murphy hosted the lunch at the LAC campus, and the Faculty Association under the leadership of Diana Okimachi, hosted the lunch on the Pacific Coast Campus A very special thank you to our own senior office assistant, Catherine Conchata, who we lovingly refer to as Catherine the Great, for all of her work behind the scenes for the two days, and it flowed so smoothly, it was wonderful As mentioned earlier, on Tuesday evening, excuse me, October, I’m already wishful thinking, August 20th, Dr. Scott hosted an orientation for the adjunct faculty I attended on behalf of the Senate, and shared the particulars of their individual contractual obligations reflects The highlight of the evening, as Karen mentioned earlier, was the presentation by adjunct faculty to their peers on best teaching practices Congratulations, Dr. Scott and her team, it was a very successful event This year’s College Day was special in many ways For those of us who call the Pacific Coast Campus home, it was a treat to welcome everyone to PCC Much has changed on campus since the last time PCC hosted College Day, buildings have been remodeled, the landscaping is beautiful, classrooms have the latest technology, and the trades areas are ready to open their doors once again While there is much to celebrate as a campus, listening to the updates from management made it clear that there is much to celebrate as a college Classified staff, adjunct faculty, tendered faculty, and administration have worked incredibly hard this last year to address budget deficits, dropping enrollment, diversity and equity issues, lagging success rates in completion ratios in curriculum implications due to 8705 It was evident by the presentations, certainly by Dr. Scott and by Dr. Munoz, that we have met these challenges head on, and we’ve made amazing progress as a college team All of us should be proud for the work, for a job well done, and going forward, we should let those accomplishments inspire us to continue the great work that was begun last year, as we go into this academic year, thank you That was an excellent report, Jeri, thank you very much Item 10.2, Classified Senate President Hello Tonight, rather than delivering a regular report, even though that was fabulous, I wanted to talk about some of the conversations that we’ve been having lately, and I’m gonna be a little self indulgent In my 26 years as an LBCC colleague, I’ve never seen such enthusiasm, sense of purpose, and sheer devotion to our constant state of improvement There’s a new focus on who are students really are, and we now have the tools to discover where they came from, what they need, and how to serve them And on College Day, during the Vice President’s reports especially,

I looked around and I saw administrators, faculty, and classified professionals excited and fired up by this onslaught of positive change Many colleagues, including myself, are participating in changes we have dreamed about for years, whether it’s a Chancellor’s Office initiative, new technology, or the influence of the many new, incredible colleagues that have joined us in the last few years, we embrace it The Classified Senate will continue to work on ensuring that our classified professionals are well informed, engaged, and remembered as equal partners during this exciting time But what we’re really thinking about is what really matters is creating a collegial atmosphere, where all members of the college community are treated with respect We also have better opportunities for relationships with our statewide colleagues and colleges in the local area, something my own department has done in the last few years, and something, was one of the things I always dreamed about, visiting our counterparts at local colleges And our department, being directly involved in a state-wide initiative, has been an incredible experience It’s an exciting time to be a colleague in the California Community Colleges, and to paraphrase something Dr. Romali once told us, what we do in the largest institution of higher learning in the world can change the world, thank you C.C., that was beautiful, thank you very much I appreciate that, those are great words All right, item 10.3, the Board of Trustees reports Trustee Otto, do you have a report you’d like to share? (Doug mumbles) Say welcome back, everybody, it’s the beginning of a school year, which is always a very exciting time, and you can sense it on campus I want to compliment Dr Romali on College Day, which I think was a great home run in many, many different ways, over the top and understated at the same time So it was great, and given the lateness of the hour, and all we did, I’m gonna stop – [Vivian] Very good, thank you, Trustee Ntuk? – [Uduak-Joe] No report Trustee Baxter? Oh, of course I have a report First of all, I do want to congratulate President Romali and all the hard working staff for a fantastic College Day, I was not there, but I was there in spirit, and I was sending all my very good wishes And one of the things I wanted to point out is that if you looked at the video, which our wonderful Communications Department put out, two of the things that the people said when they were interviewed, that we have a friendly campus and a clean campus, and that both has to do with, I believe, the Classified staff, number one, because if they’re not there, doing their work, we don’t have a beautiful campus, and I think lots of times they don’t get enough credit for that And then number two, friendliness, I think that means everybody, and it’s so important when somebody walks in the door, especially if they’ve never been to college before, that we all are friendly, and I truly believe we are the friendliest place, and a lot of that has to do with the Welcome Centers, and the fact that there’s a sign out that says Welcome, and signs that say Ask Me So I really want to salute you in your leadership for doing that, now I need to go into my sales pitch Okay, the Art Department is having the fifth biannual art exhibit from September 12th to the October 12th, opening night is, I better take off my glasses so I can read, September 14th, from five to nine Now, while you’re there on September 14th, you can go, no, it isn’t September 14th, it’s September 19th, you can go to El Pollo Loco and help benefit the Library Learning Resources Associates This El Pollo Loco is in Lakewood, but it’s not the one on Paramount, it’s the one going that way, and I don’t remember ever seeing it, so I’m gonna go check it out myself But the Library Learning Resources Associates raised money obviously for the library, the learning centers, and they do a super job So please go out and support them Also, I thought it was really good that there were signage up, if you qualify for a free bus pass, go to the Welcome Center Now, it said LAC, is it only at LAC? So both campuses, okay, so go to the Welcome Center if you want to sign up for a bus pass, to all the public that’s listening Then, I can’t believe this, there are openings at the Pacific Coast Campus Child Development Center,

which is a fabulous, fabulous program, and if you have young children between the ages of three and five, send your children there, and learn parent education Then on September 13th, Friday, September 13th, there will be a celebration of life for Joan Zuckerman During the summer, I announced this, it’s from 11:30 to two in D104, and Joan was a life science department head and longtime faculty member there And then, President Malauulu, I would like to ask, and Jeri Florence will, may be surprised by this, that we close the meeting in memory of Sterling Clayton Sterling Clayton, well, Doug, you would know Sterling, right, yeah, Sterling Clayton was a remarkable man He happened to be a personal friend of mine He went to Long Beach City College in 1946, received an Ebell Club scholarship for $50.00, and he said that changed his life He went on to Stanford, graduate from Stanford, I don’t know where he went to law school, but he said the teachers at Long Beach City College changed his life, and now I’m gonna cry Anyway, he went on to become a very successful attorney He was president of the Foundation, he’s in our Hall of Fame, and may he rest in peace Thank you very much, Dr Baxter, we are honored to adjourn in his memory, Trustee Zia, do you have a report? Okay, I have a couple of brief items I’d like to report First of all, welcome, everybody, to this academic year, hopefully you had a great, restful summer There are two events that I’d like to just wholeheartedly commend staff on, fantastic, incredible work all across the board On August 6th, our campus hosted a United States Senator, as many of you know, with Senator Bernie Sanders that chose, his campaign chose our campus to host a rally We hosted, I believe it was 5,400 students, that’s a rough estimate (Uduak-Joe mumbles) Excuse me, not students, attendees, and with no incident, it was a very well-organized, well-orchestrated event, the campus was beautiful, it was clean, it was, everything flowed smoothly I’d like to commend the Communications Team for the branding that was very visible, LBCC everywhere, T-shirts, students behind the Senator Regardless of what your political views are, we are a public institution, and we welcome the opinions of varying political sides, and I know that we have hosted presidential candidates in the past, and we hope to do so again in the future for whatever other campaign or platform is out there We just want to expose our students to that Dr. Romali, you and your team, the administration, facilities, wow, I mean, it was just incredible, just, that August 6th event, and we were dealing with a lot of external factors, because we weren’t actually hosting it, so to speak, but we had to coordinate with the campaign and the campaign staff and security So it was a multi-prong event, and it was fantastic I would also like to commend our Long Beach Police Department for the tremendous work that they did in keeping our campus secure It was said that night that this was the safest place to be in the LBC, and we got an incredible tour of the Command Center, and I know that we were going to have a guest today, special guest, I won’t blow that one, I kind of spilled the beans early yesterday But we were gonna have a special guest tonight, but unfortunately, there was a schedule conflict, so that special guest will be here at a future board meeting But just incredible, incredible, fantastic, I was very proud of every single person I can’t say it enough Last Friday was College Day, and C.C., everything you just said, I want to just reiterate There is a renaissance happening on this college campus, there is an awakening of enthusiasm and energy, I see it, I feel it It’s not just with the faculty and staff and the administration, but the students There just seems to be, when you walk the campus, I was actually on campus yesterday, and I was on campus today, and I could feel it I could feel the enthusiasm and the energy

Perhaps it’s that new school year, maybe in a couple of weeks, it won’t be as palpable, but it was certainly very palpable the last couple of days, right, everybody’s got on their back to school new clothes But it’s just amazing to see all of the things that are happening, I’ve never seen morale on this campus higher, and I understand that there are issues that we’re working with in different departments, and we’re working through, and that’s okay because everybody is still having a say, and they have a seat at the table, and they’re able to air out those concerns, and we’re able to work together, ’cause really, what we want is we want to make sure that this college continues moving forward I loved everything about College Day, by the way, it was fantastic, but my favorite part was that I’ve never seen a College Day have a theme before, and I loved the theme of explore Whoever’s brain child that was, I’m gonna guess it’s Josh because Josh always has these great ideas, but maybe it was somebody else (overlapping chattering) Was it Jeff, okay, so Jeff is like, “Wait a minute, I have good ideas, too.” (laughs) So College Day happening at PCC campus, that’s in my area that I represent, and I loved the theme of Explore PCC because sometimes, we feel like that wicked stepchild, right, we feel like the redheaded stepchild, where we don’t get the love on the PCC campus So the fact that we had College Day there, the theme of Explore, everybody was in costume We all had a different Explore theme happening with what we were wearing, it was just fantastic My favorite was Vice President Scott, she was Dora, Dora, Dora the Explorer And it was just great, costume backpack, everything, she had the little, what’s the monkey’s name? (overlapping chattering) Boots, she had Boots the monkey, she had the map My kids grew up on watching Dora, so I was like, “I know you’re Dora “’cause you got the whole shebang.” (Dr. Scott mumbles) Yes, and the movie, so just, to everybody who is a part of this college family, from the administration, all constituent groups, faculty, staff, just everybody, every department, wow What a great start, just amazing So have a great year, everybody, and with that, we’re gonna move onto item, oh, and by the way, I usually post a picture in my report, but I’m not posting pictures because the picture I would have posted is in this Campus Community Bulletin, and it’s the picture of the Explore at PCC That’s the only picture I would have shared, and of course the Bernie Sanders picture But thank you, everybody All right, we’re going onto 10.4, do we have any item to discuss with board travel? – [Uduak-Joe] I do Trustee Ntuk? Yeah, I had a question for Jack Lipton on our policy and administrative regulations And I don’t know if you have them available, but I was reading policy 2017 and administrative reg 2017 on board education, where it says, “The participation and ongoing education “in professional development,” is in that board policy And then administrative reg says that it’s designated, it’s a Superintendent President’s responsibility for administration, I know we have conferences coming up this year, I’m trying to figure out trainings What is your interpretation of that regulation as it applies to education, professional development, and travel for conferences? I’m sorry, Trustee Ntuk, I don’t have the language in front of me I can’t really comment– I don’t have the language in front of me Historically, for the last two and a half years, the board approves where they want to travel, CCLC, ACCT, and then I approve all of their expenditures afterward, but I don’t have it in front of me That’s been past practice We can get it up for you, though, it might jog your memory a little bit while we’re (quiet overlapping chattering) Yeah, I just bring that up (overlapping chattering) because I was unaware that the board would vote on who would go to travel, and what conferences We did have a lot of discussion last year about travel, but in my reading of it, it’s up to the Superintendent President to administrator 2017 I know we did the policy, I don’t know how much the administrative reg changed recently, but– – [Jack] Trustee Ntuk, your question’s on the administrative regulation? Well, so to me, I see them as two peas in a pod, pairing together, usually there’s a policy and a joining administrative regulation So when I read policy 2017 on board education, it says, “Every board member’s supposed to participate “in ongoing education and professional development.” It doesn’t say about a board vote, or an allocation, or what constitutes, I mean, there it goes in detail about policy

and board governance and so forth as in the second half of the policy, but in the administrative reg, the first part of it, 2017.1, it says, “This is administered by the,” or, “the Superintendent President is responsible “for the administration,” so I was just trying to get clarity I don’t recall voting for approving people to go to conferences in the past, but– I don’t think it’s appropriate for the superintendent to pick and choose who goes to conferences, and what conferences, they’re my bosses, and I don’t think it’s appropriate for me to say whether they can or cannot go to a conference When I read, Trustee Ntuk, 2017.1 of administrative regulation, my presumption would be that the administration that the Superintendent President does is purely, I wouldn’t say clerical, but processing the travel that the trustees had taken, in terms of processing, reimbursements, making sure their travel arrangements are made, et cetera Those are not things that trustees would need to do themselves, but when I read they’re responsible for administering the regulations, I don’t see that as a decision making authority, if that’s what the question is I see that, and I think I’ve pointed out before that the regulations in the 2000 series, in my view, are within the jurisdiction of the board itself, as opposed to other administrative regulations So I guess it would probably be good to agendize a future item to kind of delineate who’s gonna go to what this year I know there’s, I think there’s something in San Francisco for the national ACCT, it’s coming up– We do, we have an ACCT coming up, we have CCLC typically November and January, (mumbles) not too far behind that There’s a couple, yeah Well, it would be up to the board itself to determine budgetary issues and allocations of funds to trustees, that would be, obviously, a board function Okay, ’cause I went to all the new trustee stuff last year, but I was supposed to, or the policy says that a new trustee goes to new trustee training, which I did, but I didn’t know how it got approved, or I don’t recall it being approved before It’s Jackie Hahn, the Board Secretary, provides a calendar of the events that are sort of preapproved, and that’s on there, all the CCLC trainings are already on there, and perhaps you can speak to the other trainings that are already on there that are approved in a batch And you also got recently notified from the League on upcoming in Riverside (mumbles) Virginia Baxter, Dr. Baxter is attending She let me know that, but I haven’t heard from anyone else Is that in November? (overlapping chattering) November, in Riverside (overlapping chattering) Yeah – [Reagan] Yeah, so she, Jackie– So I’ll send you an updated list tomorrow, or the current list, or just to remind you again I might have missed it on my emails, but yeah, that’d be great, if you could send it Yeah, she sends out every year a list of all the different ones that are automatically approved that you guys go to every year, the CCLC– [Madame Secretary] It’s the standard one The standard one, there’s ACCT, if there’s any, and you guys approved– That would be different Yeah, if there’s anything extra, you guys decide what you want to do, like (mumbles) or whatever you want to do (overlapping chattering) Okay, all right, thank you for the clarification – [Reagan] Sure Anything else on item 10.4, board travel? All right, item 10.5, do we have any trustee committee reports? The only thing that I would like to do under trustee committees is I would like to direct the Facilities Subcommittee meeting to meet some time before September 11th This was a request that I had back in June that still hasn’t happened, and we’re at the end of August, so we’re gonna– (Reagan mumbles) Before September 11th, yeah, so we’re gonna have a Facility Subcommittee report come out and meet about the student workforce agreement All right, anything else under trustee committees? All right, so do we have any public comments on non-agenda items? Seeing none, at this time, we do have to go into a second closed session, however, I’m going to adjourn the public component of this meeting, just to let all of you off the hook, and the staff, I will not come back out and report on any action In fact, Madame Secretary, can I defer reporting of any action to the next meeting, is that allowable? Okay Does that get us off the hook, in case there is action, would I be able to defer that to a future meeting, the future meeting? If it’s not action? Trustee Malauulu, if there is action that the board takes in closed session,

that’s reportable under the Brown Act, then it needs to be reported right after the board meeting But not every action that the board takes is reportable under the Brown Act Okay, got it, okay So we are going to adjourn the public section of the meeting and go into closed session I will not come back out, so you guys are all off the hook, but just so you guys know, it is 9:44, and I’m adjourning this meeting The next, sorry, my bad, procedure The next regular meeting of the Board of Trustees will be held on September 11th, 2019, right here, closed session at 4:30, open session at 5:30, and we adjourn tonight in memory of Mr. Sterling Clayton Thank you all (gavel bangs)


LBCCD – Board of Trustees Meeting – June 24, 2020

– Good afternoon everyone

Today is Wednesday, June 24

My name is Vivian Malauulu, I am the current president

of the Long Beach Community College District Board of Trustees I’d like to welcome you to our regularly scheduled monthly meeting of the board And the time is 4:31 p.m I’d like to ask the board secretary, Jackie Hann, to please take roll – Virginia Baxter – [Virginia] Here – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Here – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Here – Doug Otto Doug Otto? – Here – And Sunny Zia – Here – Thank you, Madam Secretary Also, I would just like to state for the benefit of the public and for the record that this is the third meeting that we’ve had via Zoom This is because of the global pandemic and the Brown Act regulations that were softened a little bit by Governor Gavin Newsom for public meetings, so we are able to meet via Zoom and we have had several other meetings We are doing the best we can and we’ve been able to iron out lots of glitches and learned lots of things along the way so we’d like to ask everyone at home to please be patient but we’re becoming pros and hopefully maybe next month, we can all be back in the board room It looks like that maybe we can see light at the end of the tunnel, we’ll see So now we’re going to move on the agenda to item 1.3 This is any comments on closed session items Any requests, Madam Secretary? – No, we have no requests – All right, so we will go into our closed session We do have two items on the agenda for closed session Item 1.4, LBCCFA negotiation items This is pursuant to government code section 3549.1 and 54957.6, update with District Chief Negotiator Gene Durand, and then item 1.5, LBCCEAFT, negotiation items pursuant to government code section 3549.1 and 54957.6, update with District Chief Negotiator, also Gene Durand Anything before we adjourn? All right, so we are going to adjourn at 4:34 to go into closed session and we will be back at 5:30 to reconvene open session Thank you, everyone – Thank you – Good afternoon everyone, once again

I would like to welcome you to the open session

of the regularly scheduled meeting

of the Long Beach Community College

District Board of Trustees

Today is Wednesday, June 24th, and it is 05:39 p.m

We apologize that our closed session

took a little bit longer

Apologies for that delay

At this time, Madam Secretary, let’s see

I would like to ask if there

are any public comments on agenda items

– Can we do roll call first?

– Yes, I’m sorry

I lost my screen momentarily Murphy’s Law, that always happens, here we go Okay, so let’s do a roll call, please Apologies for that – Virginia Baxter – Here – Vivian Malauulu – Here – I’m sorry not a order, and I don’t have my list, because I used it on Board Docs already Virginia Baxter – Here – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Here – Doug Otto Doug Otto? – Here – And Sunny Zia? – [Sunny] Here – And Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Here – Thank you, Madam Secretary And now I’d like to go back to item 2.2, sorry, I did lose one of my screens here, working with multiple devices I’d like to go back to the Pledge of Allegiance and I’ve asked our senior director of facilities, Mr. Walter Johnson, to please lead us in the Flag Salute this afternoon – Good evening everyone, ready, begin – I pledge allegiance – [Members] To the flag Of the United States of America to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for all – Thank you so much, Mr. Johnson And now we are going to item 234, report on closed session items We have no items to discuss, to report on, and actually we do have to reconvene for a second closed session at the conclusion of this meeting So for our staff, there will be a second closed session And now we will move on to item 2.5 – President Malauulu – [Vivian] Yes – I thought we were gonna have a Girl Scout singing – Oh, I’m so sorry I have it written down right here, I apologize I’m so sorry, I wrote it into my agenda, and I’m looking right at it So Trustee Ntuk, I’m gonna go ahead and defer this to you I think this is a very unique and special activity, and I’d like you to go ahead and introduce it It was your idea, so go ahead and take it away – Thanks, I believe Jackie and Daria were working with Olivia She’s a Girl Scout youth leader here in our neighborhood who’s volunteered to sing, “Lift Every Voice and Sing.” I don’t know if they were able to get on the call when we got them squared away – I see her there I see Olivia there She’s on mute right now Olivia, whenever you’re ready – Okay thank you ♪ Lift every voice and sing ♪ ♪ ‘Til Earth and Heaven ring ♪ ♪ Ring with the harmonies of liberty ♪ ♪ Let our rejoicing rise ♪ ♪ High as the listening skies ♪ ♪ Let it resound loud as the rolling sea ♪ ♪ Sing a song ♪ ♪ Full of the faith that the dark past has taught us ♪ ♪ Sing a song ♪ ♪ Full of the hope that the present has brought us ♪ ♪ Facing the rising sun of our new day begun ♪

♪ Let us march on ’til victory is won ♪ Thank you! – [Uduak] Thank you, Olivia – That was outstanding, thank you Olivia Okay– – [Olivia] Thank you so much Thank you for having me – And President Malauulu, just for context, folks who may not be familiar with that song, it’s called, “The Negro National Anthem, “Lift Every Voice and Sing.” I thought it was appropriate in the trying times we’re in that we have the meeting kicked off by a youth, and hopefully a future Long Beach City College student ‘Cause I know Olivia is just finishing middle school, I think going into high school next year So thank you, Olivia, we really appreciate you – [Olivia] Thank you so much – Thank you Okay, so now we’re going to item 2.5 Madam Secretary, comment son agenda items please You are on mute, Jackie – We’re going to have Mr. Jeff Wood He’s going to read several of the items that refer to agenda items, such as 5.1, 5.3, 5.4 And then when he finishes his, I go read the public comments on agenda items referencing to agenda item 11.2 So Jeff Wood, please proceed – [Jeff] Okay, there’s several cards, I’ll go ahead and start The first one is from Jene Hun on item 5.1 and 5.3 “I’m in support of agenda item 5.1, “resolution framework for reconciliation “in support of the black community “I wanna be part of the solution at LBCC “I am open to listening to the concerns and problems “of black faculty, students, and staff “I also support the agenda item 5.3, “evaluation of LBPD contracts in campus security “Though I do not personally have any issues “with any LBPD officer overseeing LBCC, “I have heard numerous stories and witnessed some “over the years, which would cause the district “to evaluate the contract “In addition, I support the Black Lives Matter movement, “and increased scrutiny of unfair policing practices “targeting communities of color.” Thank you Jene Hun The next public comment is from Levina Beckley on item 5.4 “I first wanna thank the Long Beach Community College “Board of Trustees and member Uduak Ntuk “for having a proactive approach “to addressing the issue of Black Lives Matter “As a black woman, small business owner, “I look forward to the Board passing a resolution “supporting ACA5, the California Economic Prosperity Act, “in support of the repeal of Prop 209, “to restore affirmative action in California “Affirmative action works not only in education, “but in every industry designed to support families “seeking better and higher education “In the past years I have had the bear the burden “that black, women-owned businesses “carry on working twice as hard “and performing three times better than our competitors “in order to be sincerely considered for contracts “Unfortunately, just consideration has not been the norm, “as I have watched numerous contracts go to contractors “that are not minority-led, “whose performance records does not, in most cases, “meet or exceed our performance record “This ongoing systemic practice of injustice “where black-owned businesses are not provided “a fair and equal opportunity to secure contracts, “do well or prosper must stop “How can we, black women in this culture, “continue to meet the daily challenges “of working harder and being better, “maintain hope that we will be able to support our children “in their support of higher learning and prosperity, “and shoulder the many battles that racism alleviates daily, “when we know in any given situation, “we are less likely to win contracts? “According to a small business administration report, “women own more than a third of all business, “and those businesses are 21% less likely to win contracts “compared to otherwise similar firms not owned by women, “with percentages expected to be higher “for black-owned businesses “The only way we maintain hope and bear the burden “is by believing that those that have been elected “into positions will identify where change is needed

“And you have done here tonight, and be valiant enough “to make the change “Therefore, I applaud the Board for consideration “and passing of this resolution, “and I also ask the Board to consider and added addendum “to this resolution that conveys LBCC’s willingness “to explore an affirmative action policy “that can be adopted by LBCC locally “This could afford change to happen locally, “even while we wait for the state to follow your lead “Again, I thank you, Member Uduak Ntuk, “for you and your colleagues for being willing “to make a change and address what matters to us, “and for recognizing that black lives do matter.” The next comment is from Cockai Kwadahidi, on items 5.1, 5.3, and 5.4 “To the distinguished trustees “of the Long Beach City College “and administrative leadership, “the purpose of my comments is to express strong support “for Trustee Ntuk’s agenda items 5.1, 5.3 and 5.4, “which would do the following, “declare affirmatively that black lives matter at LBCC, “evaluate the college’s “Long Beach Police Department contracts, “and support the repealing of Prop 209 “Long Beach City College has an ongoing ethical, “moral, and operational obligation “to ensure all its students, “regardless of their backgrounds, “are treated with the utmost respect and dignity, “and provided the resources they need “to achieve their academic and career preparation goals “This obligation predates the great work “of Black Lives Matter, “and yet takes on a greater importance “during and beyond this historic moment “Declaring that black lives matter at LBCC “means that all black people “are genuinely wanted and welcomed “This is not narrowly only to those black people “who are great athletes “This means the maximum amount of resources, “support, and encouragement will be given “to all black students, visitors, and community partners “This means that LBC will recognize and address “the conditions black students are disproportionately subjected to, “like homelessness, foster care, poverty, unemployment, “victims of police violence, “in the forms of programs, curriculum, “and staffing decisions, which includes the hiring “of black people in powerful leadership positions “Therefore, it is essential to repeal Prop 209 “There’s no way to truly affirm that black lives matter “at LBCC until its approach to campus safety “shifts away from police dominant to community dominant “This means using data to understand and articulate “what the safety needs of LBCC are, “identify first how non-police staffing “can address those safety needs, “and develop an appropriate budget to support the shift “Therefore, it is essential to review the current contracts “between LBCC and the City of Long Beach Police Department “As someone who was born and raised in Long Beach, “had some of my proudest moments in life “on the LBCC campus, I continue to care “about the students and staff there “I am confident that LBCC will step up in those moments “and make black lives matter a reality “Thank you Trustee Ntuk for your leadership “in this important time in history, “and I also wanna extend recognition “to the rest of the Board of Trustees “for what I expect to be your complete support “that black students, staff, visitors, “and community partners of LBCC.” The next comment is from Porter Gilberg on 5.3 “Dear Long Beach City College Board of Trustees “On behalf of the LGBTQ Center Long Beach, The Center, “I am writing in support of agenda item 5.3, “and strongly encourage the Board of Trustees “to review and amend LBCC’s existing contract “with the Long Beach Police Department “Last week our center united with more than 200 other “LGBTQ organizations across the country “through a letter titled LGBTQ Organizations Unite “in Calling for Transformational Change in Policing “This letter also included, in this correspondence, “and signing onto this letter, the center has affirmed “our commitment to broader and explicitly meaningful “anti-racist practice within our organization, “acknowledge the harms of racism at Long Beach “and the United States, and demand a divestment of resources “on Long Beach Police Department, “coupled with a reinvestment into community resources “in order to reduce reliance on law enforcement “or other remedies, resources are much more appropriate “to ensure the health and safety of our communities “As many of you know, LGBTQ people are disproportionately

“impacted by police violence, over-policing, “and extremely high rates of incarceration “As such, police presence does not enhance “safety for our community “Rather, the presence of law enforcement “threatens the public safety, wellness, “and likelihood for positive life outcomes “for LGBTQ people and communities, “especially black LGBTQ people, “and all the LGBTQ people of color “I implore Long Beach City College to reevaluate, “reduce, and consider eliminating its contract “with the Long Beach Police Department “in order to create a more meaningful opportunities “to ensure students’ successful academic and life outcomes “Should you have any questions regarding this letter, “please do not hesitate to contact me “Porter Gilberg, Executive Director.” The next comment is from Jimmy Flowers on 5.1 “Quote, the ultimate measure of a man is not where he stands “in a moment of comfort or convenience, “but where he stands at times of challenge and controversy “End quote, M.L.K “President Bynum, and members of the Board, “a special thank you for introducing “and adapting the agenda item 5.1, Black Lives Matter “Trustee Uduak-Joe, thank you for leading the way “in our quest for racial equality “This is a brave first step that we have taken “in the quest for racial equality “I have been a classified professional “at Long Beach City College for over 30 years “Unfortunately, I have suffered “the painful trauma of racial injustice “within my current and former departments, “yet I’ve remained professional with the hope “that positive and meaning change will occur one day “As the world turns and we are open the door “to address issues like racism and microaggressions “at Long Beach City College, I ask myself, “how can many of our brothers and sisters “will be willing to walk through that door “without the fear or threat of retaliation “What assurances can we get? “Finally, my career at Long Beach City College “is in its sunset “I have dedicated myself in the past, present and future “to do everything within my abilities to ensure “that the college is in a better place “than when that same 18 year old first stepped “onto that campus more than 30 years ago “Thus, I do believe, if we are not part of the solution, “then perhaps we are part of the problem.” The next comment is from Kimmy Menakis on 5.1, 5.3 and 5.4 “Dear Long Beach City College Board of Trustees, “as a resident of Long Beach and parent “of two LBUSD students who will beneficiaries “of the Long Beach promise, and future students of LBCC, “I write in the spirit of collaboration, “care, and accountability for us as a community “to utilize this moment in history, “to do all we can to prioritize the racial healings “and reconciliation desperately needed “This moment in which the black community “and their allies are uprising and calling “for systems to change policies that have been enacted “harm upon black people, serves as a pivotal time “for leaders to ensure that all institutions “in Long Beach do whatever possible to right the wrongs “imposed upon the black people in Long Beach, “a community with a deep and rich history, “and presence of black people “There’s tremendous opportunity for LBCC “to demonstrate this very commitment “to its student and community “As the Long Beach City Council has established efforts “towards racial healing and reconciliation, “all of our educational institutions must also take the time “to not only examine current policies and practices “that continue to disenfranchise black students, “but demonstrate commencement through its budget, “to actively devote resources to efforts “that will contribute to their care “As you consider the college’s budget for FY21 and policies, “I write in support of the following, agenda item 5.1 “Adopt a resolution that clearly declares “that black lives matter at LBCC “For a campus that is 86% students of color, “and 12% black, African American, “this commitment to racial equality “is symbolic, but a necessary first step “I encourage LBCC to go a step further “and establish a plan for ensuring educational equality “for black students “A plan that should include best practices, “such as establishing ongoing professional development “for all LBCC instructors, staff, and leaders “to meet a minimum standard of competencies “around racial equality “And teaching/support specifically black students, “as well as providing consistent opportunities “for collective dialogue to address racial disparities

“that is inclusive of students, parents, “community members, and alumni “Agenda 5.3, elimination of contracts with LBPD “Policing and the criminalization of people in schools “leads to disproportionate entanglement “of especially black students “with the criminal justice system “The presence of law enforcement on the campus “to respond to student discipline issues “is not an appropriate answer and should be replaced “with the holistic plan rooted in prevention, “care, wellness, healing, and must be trauma-informed “It is time we reevaluate public safety means “and looks like for all members Of LBCC “and the Long Beach Community “Agenda 5.4, adopt a resolution supporting ACA5, “repealing Prop 209, and restoring affirmative action “Since 1996, we have learned that a color blind approach “to creating equity for historically “marginalized communities does more harm than good “And actually exacerbates inequities further, “especially for black people “There continues to exist vast under-representation “of black students’ enrollment in colleges and universities “And it’s time to throw out an ineffective “and outdated policy that does not recognize “that systemic racism persists “I thank you for taking the time to consider “my public comment and can be reached “for further discussion and support “In community, Kimmy Menakis, parent and community leader “in social justice, ethnic studies, youth development, “and healthy equity.” The next comment is from Rich Chambers on 5.3 “Good evening Superintendent Bynum, “President Malauulu, and trustees “Thank you for the opportunity to speak to you this evening “We are proud to have served and protected the students, “faculty and campus for the last 20 years “We believe the recommendation before you “is confusing and unclear “The recommendation mentions reevaluating the contract, “identifying new methods, ending brutality, “and making changes to the current practices “We know these issues are important, “but they are also separate issues in and of themselves “Ending the contract now is unnecessary, premature, “and will put the safety of our students and.” Pardon me “Will put the safety of our students and property at risk “The officers assigned to the college are highly trained “to specifically service and support the campus community “Our expertise and knowledge of the campus is valuable, “especially in an emergency “We know the layout and are familiar “with all buildings and classrooms “We also know the climate, the people, “and understand the intent and mission of the college “LBPD is critical to the safety “of the students and campuses “The expertise of a campus officer is unique “They can diffuse a tense situation, “because they understand the campus discipline system “and received training on alternatives “to police action and arrest “Campus officers have defibrillators, “and are true first responders “They will be the first to provide life-saving help “The Liberal Arts campus is in the middle “of a residential area, and we appreciate that keeping “the campus and students safe “is also important to local residents “Let’s have a conversation before we take drastic measures “We are ready to talk about race, equality, “and how we can improve our services and relationship “But removing Long Beach Police Department officers “from campus is not the answer “Rich Chambers, President “Long Beach Police Officers Association.” The next comment is from Ashley Gunkel on 5.3 “Hello honorable Board of Trustees “I am writing as a representative “of the International Association of Machinists “and Aerospace Worker’s Local Lodge, 1930 “We represent the special services officers “that you currently employ through a contract “with the Long Beach Police Department “We are at a unique time in our society “that may constitute a precipice “of a new and brighter tomorrow “A tomorrow membership and leadership “have been fighting for decades “And for leaders such as yourself, “it’s a delicate and tricky time “You are trying to balance the changing and evolving “morals and ethics of your community, “and the safety of the students “who entrust you with their futures “We at the IAM have a solution that will help you “strike that balance and save money simultaneously “Our special services officers “are highly trained professionals “who are versatile and caring, “and they come at an affordable price tag “Their adept at protection services, “as well as handling a variety of other issues, “including traffic control, event staffing, “and standard law enforcement procedures “We have both unarmed and armed officers “that can help you deliver the safety of your students,

“be it at a price that respects the budget shortfalls “that all public institutions are facing “Further, our special services officers “have a strong relationship with the community, “and are a trusted name “by not only community and neighborhood groups, “but also by many of the protestors “who are fighting to defund the police “The record speaks for itself, “which is where the balance truly gets struck “Our officers offer safety, affordability, “and hiring them will show that you hear the community “and respect their voices “They are truly the answer you need right now “We propose that our well-trained “and respected special services officers “take over full security responsibilities “for both LBCC campuses in the new contract “Regards Ashley Gunkel, business representative, “IAMAW District 947.” The next comment is from Hattie Haring on 5.1, 5.3 and 5.4 “I am an Afro-American female resident of North Long Beach, “involved with several organizations, “with a daughter who graduated from LBCC, “and I would like to express some comments “on agenda items 1.1.” I’m sorry “On agenda items 5.1, 5.3, and 5.4 “Agenda item 5.1 “We’re currently participating “in a double pandemic crisis for 2020, COVID-19 and racism “The modern-day lynching of George Floyd “has brought the reality of system racism “against black people to all people “here in the United States of America, “and throughout the entire world “Every existing part of the U.S.A “is part of the systemic racism and does need “to be part of the solution to kill and bury racism “This resolution process can be initiated “by acknowledging and confirming “that black lives matter at LBCC “Agenda item 5.3 “Repeal Prop 209 is currently an effort “by CA Democratic Party “Prop 209 basically put a ban on affirmative action, “which now released institutions, businesses, “corporations, from having to select Afro-Americans “Stats are showing a major reductions of Afro-Americans “being selected or represented in every of our society “So Prop 209 has worked more “against than for Afro-Americans “Agenda item 5.4 “Proposition ACA5 has been introduced “by Assemblywoman, Shirley Weber, to replace Prop 209, “and be more beneficial for Afro-Americans “The proposal is to have this item placed “on the November 3rd 2020 ballot “for the people to vote on this item “I do encourage LBCC to support ACA5 “for the 11/3/2020 election.” The next is from Jennifer Kehret “My name is Jennifer Kehret, “and I am a full time faculty member “in the English Department “I have been teaching at LBCC for nine years “I am emailing in support of our LBPD officers at LBCC “I understand that tonight’s agenda item “calls for an evaluation of LBPD contracts, “and I understand and support any in-depth “and informed conversations that lead to meaningful actions “to end police brutality “I also understand that these conversations “are beginning as many colleges are ending their contracts “with police departments altogether “I would like to make the point “that having contracted LBPD officers on campus “regularly helps to build relationships, “and to achieve the kind of community policing “that many departments are only starting to aspire towards “I can speak from personal experience “During the 2017/2018 academic year, “I was repeatedly threatened and stalked on campus “by a former student “On numerous occasions, I needed a member “of our campus police force to escort me to my car “at the end of the work day to ensure my safety “Most of the time it was the same officer who was available “This officer, with my permission “and with my students’ permission, often came “into my last class before we adjourned “to sit among the students as we completed “our work for the day “This officer was very intentional about this, “as it allowed him to be a visible, “recognizable presence to our students “It allowed students to engage him in conversations, “some of which were challenging, “regarding police presence and police conduct “on their campus and in their communities “It allowed me to be fully present for my students, “knowing that we were safe in the face “of the offending student’s threatening behavior “This officer told me and told my students

“on several occasions, we don’t care about your skateboards, “or your boom boxes, or your immigration status “We care about your access to a quality education “We care about you and your teachers “being able to focus on your work “There is no question that across the country “there are some terrible people in police uniforms “who abused their power and authority, “and who abused and murder innocent people “This has to stop “These officers must be accountable for their actions, “and departments must be accountable “for stopping this criminal behavior in their ranks “But the rest of the officers in these ranks “need to be able to do their jobs the right way, “having the same LBPD officers on our campus “day after day, building relationships with students, “faculty and staff is one way to help heal “the damage done by the egregious abusive power “on the part of a minority of officers “I know that I speak for many of my colleagues “and many of my students, “especially the students who had classes with me “during the 2017/2018 academic year, “when I state that having these LBPD officers on campus “has been not only reassuring, but necessary “as LBCC continues to engage the challenging work “of being an accessible, equitable, “safe campus for everyone “Thank you for your time, Jennifer Kehret, “associate professor of English, Long Beach City College.” Final card I have is from Ralph Plumber on 5.3 “I wanna voice my strongest support for the men and women “of Long Beach Police assigned at LBCC “The department and its officers have contributed mightily “to LBCC making a safe and friendly environment “for students, teachers, and surrounding residents “I live three houses from LBCC “I have walked my dog to the campus “twice a day for 25 years “I know the officers and have witnessed “their absolute professionalism “They are friends to the students “They are liked by the students “They are extremely well trained “They are polite “They are the epitome of positive community policing “We are fortunate to have LBPD “As a resident, I have supported LBCC “in its building plans, making it a beautiful school “and the jewel of community colleges “It’s not just luck that LBCC is not stained “with graffiti, trash and crime “It’s because of LBPD and its officers “Any attempt to cut LBPD from its duties “will have an extremely adverse affect on my support “I was a deputy district attorney “for the Los Angeles County District Attorney “for 28 years “I am familiar with police agencies, “and believe I am qualified to render an opinion “on the quality of policing “The officers at LBCC are outstanding “Any attempt to change will be a serious and tragic mistake “Thank you, Ralph Plumber.” President Malauulu, that’s the end of the cards that I have – [Vivian] Thank you Jeff, really appreciate that And now I believe Jackie Hann will read the remaining speaker cards – Yes, yes This is on agenda item 11.2 This first one is from Jericho Badea, educational coach of the College to Career Program “To the Long Beach City College Board of Trustees, “my name is Jericho Badea “I served as an LBCC DSPS employee from 2000 to 2009, “before being laid off from my position “in the DSPS office “I also attended OBCC for my general ed certification “before transferring to CSULB “to obtain my bachelor’s degree in mathematics “I am currently an adjunct faculty “at Los Angeles Trade Tech College, “and also work as a full time educational coach “for the College to Career, C2C Program “since it began in November 2011 “As the Trustees are already aware, “the LBCC district did not want College to Career “when we first started “However, through the hard work of Shauna Hagemann, “and the belief that this program would give “the best opportunity to students “who qualify for the program, the LBCC Foundation “decided to take C2C “C2C began with only 12 students, “some of whom were lower functioning, “on the autism spectrum, “and others who were higher functioning students “When I was hired as an educational coach, “my job was to provide students with academic coaching “for four hours per day, five days a week, “for a total of 20 hours a week, “which seemed like a simple task “I remember the first month of our program, “we did not have an office, nor a place to meet our students “to do our jobs, to help them with their classes “and to navigate the college “Since I taught at L.A Trade Tech in the morning, “my C2C hours were in the afternoon “I would have to contact the morning educational coach “to ask them where to meet them once I arrive at LBCC “Sometimes they would be in the library

“if they were able to find a room “Sometimes they would be at the DSPS High Tech Center “There were even some days when I would meet them “between the P and the N building, “because the campus had not designated “a place for us to work with the students “It was hard to do our jobs under those circumstances “And with the starting pay back then, I could have quit “But I saw the value of what we could bring “to the students that we serve “I could help them change their future “contrary to what the beliefs are for this population “During the first year of the College to Career Program, “I could not really follow my job description, “because if I did, I would not be able to help these students “I am a college-level math teacher “If students did not want help, what could I do? “But the C2C students are different “I learned that for me to help them properly, “I would need to take some time to earn their trust, “which is not part of my job description “as an educational coach.” (notifications beeping) Excuse me “As an educational coach “My job was hired to provide students, “coaching for four hours a day, five.” Oh excuse me, that phone call interrupted me I lost my place “During the first year of College to Career Program, “I could not really follow my job description, “because if I did, “I would not be able to help these students “I am a college-level math teacher “If students did not want help, what could I do? “But the C2C students are different “I learned that for me to help them properly, “I would need to take time to earn their trust, “which is not part of my job description “as an educational coach “But once I earned their trust, these students opened up, “and from that point on I could actually help them “I keep in mind that no matter how I help those students, “no matter how good I explain something to them, “they may not respond nor learn, “and some may stay quiet as if they are welcoming “the assistance that they are getting “Many are students who have come from a history “of accepted failure “Many have been bullied, or not done well in school, “because they were not given “the appropriate means to succeed “However, once I build a relationship with them, “they somehow come out of themselves, “and then accept the help being offered “No wonder the College to Career Program “has grown in its success over the years “All of us educational coaches go above and beyond our jobs “We have patience, take time to know the students, “build relationships, read their files, “and research their disabilities, “all with the intention of understanding them “and knowing how to help them “I want to give an example “Erica and Melissa are two C2C students “who when they first started “were extremely withdrawn and quiet “We did not know how to make them respond, “and we did not know how to help them “Whenever I asked them a question, “they would just nod their head “They did not even smile, nor say a simple word such as yes “They would just nod their head “After going above and beyond and earning their trust “so they could see us as people who could help them, “Erica earned her culinary “in baking and pastry certificates “Melissa started talking and smiling, “and has become receptive to help “Melissa has come a long way from when she first started “Now that all of us are leaving, “I am certain that she will go back to being that quiet girl “who does not open up to anyone “When we first started, I must admit, C2C had no structure “We had three educational coaches and no office “with 12 students, what were we supposed to do? “But after getting experience “and learning with the students, “we were able to build a system and a structure “to help them, as well as perform our jobs “Our success data will tell you how we performed “under the leadership of Shauna Hagemann “We put students first, why? “Because we love to see them succeed “For me, I see them as my children “I will take time to know them “and lengthen my patience “I have swallowed my pride several times “and did not regret it, because at the end “I saw them graduate and finish C2C with a degree “or a certificate, and that is what is “and has always been important to me “April of 2019 we were told that C2C would be transitioned “to LBCC from the foundation “Great news “however, during the meeting, “I found out that LBCC sees us educational coaches “as instructional aids “To be honest, it felt like a slap in the face “All the hard work, all the patience, “all the swallowing of pride “All those times spent knowing and learning students “is equivalent to that of an instructional aid “On top of that, if we apply “for the C2C positions with LBCC, “not only will the pay rate decrease significantly,

“and my full time benefits be removed, “but the hours will be cut in half “19 hours per week “Seriously? “How are we going to build rapport “and earn the students’ trust if we are only there “for 19 hours in a week “Even if it goes against my will, and will make me sad, “I will not apply for the position of instructional aid “I ask those in our 2019 transition meeting “how they determine that we are only instructional aids “They said that they looked at old job descriptions “Great “So all the effort of making the C2C Program “better over the years is gone, and goes unrecognized “No one from the Dean’s Office or DSPS “had asked any educational coaches what we do “or how we do it “Suddenly, those who have barely stepped “into the C2C office or talked to staff “are experts on thee C2C Program “I wanna end with this “This is twice now that LBCC “has screwed me and my family up “The first time was in 2009 when I was laid off from DSPS, “and this is the second time “I love LBCC, but I will never ever apply “for a job here again, “nor recommend my friends or family to work for LBCC “after what the college has done to me “Not to mention the disrespect “that I have experienced this past year “We were told we will be terminated, “but no one communicated with us about when “They said at the end of the 2019, “then I February 2020, and then April “And then in the Spring “Finally, Tuesday of last week, we got a definite date “Two days after that our end date was changed again “I am still here for the C2C students, “but it is at a cost to me and my family “both mentally and emotionally “Thank you for your time and opportunity “to address the Board and air my grievances.” The next– – [Vivian] Jackie, if I can just interrupt you for one second please Please if you can just use your judgment, I would prefer to not have students named when you’re reading the public comments I just don’t think it’s right for students to be named in this type of program publicly I have no problem with the employees that have been named This gentleman spoke very highly of one particular employee, I have no problem with that But I don’t think it’s right for students to be named, especially when they’re special service duty – I will certainly look out for that These are lengthy, and the volume was voluminous – [Vivian] Okay, thank you – I will definitely do that Okay, the next one is from Dianna Chavez Bipel And she is with the C2C program “To Vice President Muñoz, President Malauulu, “and the Board of Trustees at Long Beach City College “Thank you for your time and commitment “to the students of the Long Beach City College “My name is Dianna Chavez Bipel, “I am a parent of a student who has attended LBCC “for the last two years “My daughter is a client of the Harbor Regional Center, “and it was her counselor who in 2017 “highly recommended LBCC’s College to Career Program, “as he said it was the perfect placement for her “2016 graduation from the Port of Los Angeles High School “The plan was that she would start in the program in 2017, “assuming she was accepted “The application was filled out and submitted, “yet there was no response “So I kept asking her counselor what was going on “He told me he put several phone calls in “and received no responses “After several months passed by, “the counselor told me that he was told the program “was on hold, but had no answers why or how long, “just that some changes were being made, “and they weren’t accepting new students at that time “Several more months passed, and I was getting no answers, “so I contacted a supervisor at HRC “and requested a new counselor, “assuming he wasn’t following through “My daughter was given a new counselor, “and the supervisor told me he will stay active on the case “to ensure follow-through “After the new counselor and supervisor “met with my daughter, they also thought that C2C “was the perfect placement “The counselor at HRC attempted to contact Shauna Hagemann, “who was the program director of C2C, “but received no response to his calls “I then started making calls but had no luck “with a return call “I started calling the Disabled Students Center daily, “and each day they would say Shauna wasn’t in her office “I even stopped by a few times “to see her mailbox full of mail, “and she was never in her office “The HRC counselor contacted the person at HRC “who worked with the C2C program

“and was able to set up an interview “My daughter was denied admission on March 31st 2017, “without any feedback on why “I demanded the counselor find out the details of why, “since they all thought this program “was a perfect match for her “In my meeting with the staff of C2C at the Resource Fair, “in sitting and on their presentation, “they had said that sometimes students are denied “as they are not ready for this type of program “However, they are given the reasons “and things to work on, so they can reapply “Due to thus, I kept bugging for details “and wanting to know what Taylor.” Excuse me “What the daughter needed to work on “I was finally granted a meeting, but Shauna, the director, “nor anyone who was in the interview were in attendance “The only person there was the contact at HRC “who did not sit in on the interview, “and had information second hand “After pressing for details, I was told that the reason “she wasn’t accepted was because the interviewing team “felt that I wanted the program for my daughter “more than she did “This couldn’t have been further from the truth “I wasn’t ready for her to be away from home, “as I felt she wasn’t independent enough “and there were strict rules on visitors, “and the program’s rules lack time away “during summer breaks and holidays “I wouldn’t even be able to take her out to dinner “After pressing for what skills “my daughter needed to work on, “the HRC supervisor said more independence “From that day forward, “my daughter was given more responsibilities at home, “such as paying a monthly bill in a timely manner, “being responsible for a debit card to use in the community, “and keep track of the balance “Using Lyft or Uber for transportation “to and from the school, “planning a community activity once a month, “and cook a meal at least once weekly “She was also set up with interview practice “with HRC since she had never been given this training “prior to the C2C interview, “which was with approximately six people “Once she was progressing with her interview skills “and independence, she met with a counselor “to reapply for C2C “This time she was denied without any opportunity “for an interview on July 25th 2018 “I felt this was personal to me, “and had nothing to do with my daughter, “as I was the parent who asked too many questions “and pushed too hard, and demanded honestly “The counselors at HRC shared my feelings “My opinion is that every parent has to be an advocate “and help guide their child to be as independent “and successful as possible, “and even more so for a special child’s needs “I hope you all agree “Two years later, as we were waiting on the system “to work in finding the right program for my daughter, “I took things in my own hands enrolling her “in the LBCC, as she wanted to go to college “with her big brother “We enrolled her into two classes using “the Disabled Students Center, “attempting to follow the same class structure “that the C2C program used for their students “During this time, “HRC switched my daughter’s counselor again, “and we had a new person join our team “A few months later, we had our meeting “Our annual meeting at HRC “I asked to see the form of all dollars spent “on my daughter for the year “On this form there were services billed to HRC from LBCC “I questioned this, but as the counselor was new, “she had no answer and stated she would look into it “My daughter and I went to the school “to meet with the school counselor, “and after picking classes, we headed to the finance office “to pay for classes where I asked for clarification “of billed services from LBCC “As I was in line, my co-worker, Vivian Malauulu, “walked into the building with another woman “who she introduced as the Superintendent-President “They were stopping and talking with students “I said hi, and after introducing me to the other woman, “Dr. Romali, she asked what I was doing there, “where I then explained we were there to pay “for the next semester classes, “and to find out what services were billed through LBCC, “as my daughter had no services that I was aware of “Dr. Romali gave me her card and said I could call her, “and she would help me “I called Dr. Romali and ended up getting to speak “to the VP, Mike Muñoz “I asked for a meeting with the C2C program “for the lack of communication, “and wanted to know why my daughter was denied “even an interview, as well to question Shauna “about the billing of services, “as she was overseeing the program “The meeting was granted, with Mike, Shauna, “and the HRC counselor, my daughter, and myself “In the meeting from the questions I was asking, “it was clear to all that Shauna was lying, “attempting to cover up something, “and her answers kept changing “She brought no documentation, even though she was asked to

“prior to the meeting “At that time it was left in LBCC hands “to investigate the billing for services never rendered, “and to look into all the other issues “I brought to the table “I called to follow up and was told that details “of the investigation couldn’t be shared, “due to employee union rights, which I understand very well, “but that Shauna would no longer be part of the C2C program “It was then apparent to me, after reading and meeting “LBCC’s investigation, and there must have been “enough evidence to remove Shauna from the program “At that time we were given an opportunity “to reapply for C2C, but my trust in the program “as it was being run was lost, “so we declined this offer “My daughter continues to take classes at LBCC “as we attempt to mock what the C2C Program “sells to the community “I know the exposure of Shauna Hagemann’s mismanagement “has put a negative dent in the C2C Program “However, I am happy to see that the program issues “are now in front of a volunteer board, whom I am confident “have the LBCC students’ best interest in mind “As hard as change is, I hope you, the Board of Trustees, “are able to come to a decision to revamp this program “to be successful, to meet the needs “of the disabled students “who are part of the LBCC community “The potential of the program and its benefits to students “with disabilities is greater than most realize “As I shared, my daughter will not benefit “from this program, I am excited to see what LBCC builds “as you revamp the much-needed C2C Program “I look forward to seeing the positive outcomes “that will make such a functional life difference “for the kids and the regional center clients “Thank you for your time “To the students of LBCC and the clients of HRC.” The next comment is from Bonnie Mota of the C2C Program “I worked for Long Beach Unified District for 19 years “before joining the C2C team, “and I have been here nearly nine years “Over the years we have adjusted to the bumps in our path, “but last year when C2C was to transition “to being a part of the Long Beach City College, “and our director, Shauna Hagemann, was asked to leave, “we have been trudging through the muck “of seemingly eternal transition “I feel this program is unique, because we do not provide “cookie-cutter solutions for our students or clients “We make special connections with our students “in a way right for their specific academic needs “Each of us are individuals, as are our students, “and we find the teaching style to best communicate, “identify their strengths, help build up actions “that are socially accepted in or outside of our program “We guide and support them through their courses “I have included mission statements of two entities “that support C2C “Mission and value statement “of the Long Beach City College and Foundation, “committing to providing equitable student learning “and achievement, academic excellence, “and workforce development, “by delivering high-quality educational programs “and support services to our diverse communities “Our original center mission statement “provides quality services, support, information, “and choices for people with development disabilities, “and their families, to promote their participation “as valued neighbors in our communities “The takeover and transition of this successful program “has been tumultuous for the staff, “students, and their families “To dismantle the type of services C2C provides with less, “change the job descriptions, “reduce the number of hours for staff “to minimal across the board compensation significantly less “and basically doing away with our positions, “I feel you are falling short of and not complying “with the mission statements “of the above mentioned partners “Our C2C students and staff deserve much more “than we have been given this past year “Also, foundation and board of trustees “owe a big thank you to the C2C staff “covering what has been lacking in support “and communication this year, “of the College to Career Program.” From Karen Richie “I am an educational coach who has been “with the College to Career Program for six years “I have taught in the field of special education “for over 35 years, and worked with numerous students “on all levels of the autism spectrum “I was a resource room specialist for many years, “serving middle school grade levels, “and have also taught children who were bing homeschooled “I developed and executed a personal tutoring business “where I provided tutoring to students of all ages “in elementary through college level subjects

“and varied abilities “I hold a California Clear “Level Two Special Education Specialist credential “What I have to say to you comes from years of experience “teaching students with various disabilities, “working privately and within the educational systems “of the states of Ohio and California “I would like to clarify two main points “which were stated during the Board of Trustees meeting “on May 27th, 2020.” “One, Dr. Muñoz stated that the committee “had met with C2C employees “I want to clarify there was one meeting last October “where we were not consulted, but informed that the program “was going to be transitioned to the college “We had no input, we were merely informed “They have not spoken to us, the C2C staff, “nor attempted to meet with our students “That is an important fact “How can they design a program “when they know nothing about the people involved? “Two, I very much appreciated Trustee Zia’s question “in the last meeting, where she asked, “will there be any cuts to the current staff? “The straight answer would be yes “Dr. Muñoz’s response was a political answer, “we can’t do a point unless will have to open up “and do recruitments for the positions “Noelle Currell had some meetings with the C2C employees, “letting them know what the process will be “to apply for these positions “they will have to reapply for these positions “Mind you, the jobs that we have held “for the past six to 12 years would no longer be available “Instead, we could apply for an instructional aid position “The qualifications for this position is a GED “or high school diploma “Nowhere does it state that an applicant needs “any experience working with students with disabilities “Also, this position’s hourly rate and hours “are considerably less “19 hours a week at $17 an hour “It was obvious to me that the college wanted “part time people and to not pay benefits “He said we could apply, but he failed to say “that the process was completed back in February “In the one meeting we had with the committee “on October 2019, they showed no interest “in rehiring us in our current positions, “and they actually said that there would be many people “who would apply and want these jobs, “and we would not receive preferential treatment “during the hiring process “In conclusion, since its conception in October 2009, “by Shauna Hagemann, the C2C Program “has become a highly successful program “As it stands right now, it is the only one of its kind “You should ask yourself, why is it so successful? “The answer is, people “We are the people that worked years “to make this program as successful as it is today “I feel you have failed to put “this very important fact first “A program is nothing without good, “caring and devoted people “It is more than dollar signs “You need to remember who spent countless hours “and years developing C2C to make it what it is today “We have built trust and relationships with our students, “we have been through the hard times “and the good times with them “We have witnessed many of them graduating “with certificates or AA degrees “Since last October, our students and the C2C staff “have been put into a limbo of severe stress, “related to the termination of our jobs, “but never knowing when that would take place “We as a group were never introduced to the interim person “who was taking over the program “when Shauna was let go from her own program “We have endured all of the changes in termination dates, “and our students have especially endured “the looming threat of a change in the program “as well as the staff “I say no more “Our students are bright young adults “who want a future, just like you “Please don’t push them aside “Have some compassion, “and at least make our termination date “at the end of the summer session, August 18 “And I would like you to remember these names, “Shauna Hagemann, Jericho Badea, Sinjin Owen, “Bonnie Mota, Lisa White, Lindsay Lampert, “Karen Richie, Jessica Carrie “We are the founders of this program.” Next one is Lindsay Lampert, she is an educational coach of the C2C program “I grew up in Long Beach and spent most of my life here “My sisters and I attended the LBCC child development center “for preschool, and I have sent all three of my kids there “Two have completed the program, and one still attends “I used to come to the campus as a child “to feed the bunnies “Several of my volleyball teams practice in the LBCC gym “I even learned to swim in the college pool “I planned to play volleyball here after high school “until I earned a full ride to a four-year in San Diego

“After I graduated, I worked for the Disabled Students “Programs and Services at LBCC “This is when I developed my passion “for working with those with special needs “I worked as a test prompter in office staff “My daily contact with such amazing people “instilled my love for this type of work “After several years at DSPS, I moved to Washington, D.C, “and worked as an event coordinator “for the Department of Health and Human Service “After several more years, I found myself back in Long Beach “raising my first child “Shauna Hagemann who I have known since my days past “at DSPS and who I had kept in contact with over the years “contacted me with a possible job opportunity “We met, and the next day I started “with the College to Career Program “This was October 31st, 2014 “I knew from the moment I stepped foot in that cramped office that this program “was something special “I don’t know how to explain it exactly, “but there was such a positive and calming vibe “amongst the perceived chaos “I knew from that moment that this was “where I was supposed to be, “and my purpose was to help these students “A few ed coaches have come and gone in my time with C2C “I had two more kids, and countless memories “with C2C students and staffs “The staff that are with the program now are hands-down “the best group of people I have ever worked with “The compassion and drive that our director, Alison Brown, “and all the ed coaches have, motivating and inspiring “The students have changed my life “Many of them have become extended family, the kind.” – You wanna watch Jackie? – Pardon? “The students have changed my life “Many of them have become extended family “that come to my family gatherings and celebrations “They have all met my family and held my babies “This is not just an office, this is truly a family “The students and staff care about each other “We attend their graduations, bring them gifts, “celebrate their accomplishments, “help them overcome obstacles, laugh with them, “cry with them, learn with them, grow with them “I care about them like they are my family “We go above and beyond the scope of our job every day, “every one of us “I have told each and every one of the C2C clients “that even when we are replaced and no longer work for C2C, “that they can always call on me if they need a ride, “if they need me to proofread an essay, “if they just need to talk or vent “At the end of the day, I don’t care about this job “I care about these people “It has been a long 10 months preparing these students “for the transition “Many have expressed concern, fear, anger, and confusion “We try our best to reassure them that things will be okay, “but how do we even know that when were kept so uninformed? “When Shauna Hagemann was our DSPS liaison, “we felt supported, acknowledged, and appreciated “When she was removed from the position as our director, “we did our best to keep going “because we didn’t really have a choice “when it came to our clients’ needs “Not only did Shauna start C2C, “she continued to improve and develop it “Through her tireless and often unrecognized efforts, “C2C is what it is today “Since Shauna has been gone, we have received literally “no support from DSPS or the college “Maria Eck Ewell was supposed to step in “and act as the overseer of the program “I have yet to meet her “Most of our staff and clients have not met her “We were told that the goal was to transition “to the district to make college resources “more accessible to our students “Since the beginning of the transition, DSPS “has provided nothing to staff or students “that have been abused “The tension and confusion on the state of our program “actually made it harder to access these resources “We felt neglected and unsupported, and left out to dry, “yet we still keep our foot on the gas “Then came COVID-19 “Without the guidance or support of DSPS, “on top of knowing that our jobs were still in jeopardy, “we all transitioned 25 students who were accustomed to “and reliant on in-person educational coaching “to virtual ed coaching “This was not an easy task, but we did it “and successfully completed the semester “Trust me, we have our stories “Zoom was definitely a challenge for some at first, “and we did a lot of screen sharing “until we could all get the hang of it “This is on top of us now working from home “and the challenging that bring “I worry about the future of the C2C program, “and the clients, knowing what it takes “to work with these clients on a daily basis

“I know that experience with people “with disabilities is imperative “On August 28th, 2019, I expressed my concerns “to VP Mike Muñoz, after receiving the original notification “of the transition “He stated, please know that we are fully committed “to supporting the programs “It seems as though the exact opposite has been the case “I would be nervous to see “what a non-full commitment would look like “The way that DPSP and the college handled this transition “was disappointing to say the least “Our attempts to reach out had been ignored “Our clients’ questions had been ignored “Our clients’ best interests are being ignored “C2C is a special program “that deserves special consideration “Our staff is well-qualified and equip “to work with students with disabilities “For students that have so much to overcome on a daily basis “as they attempt things that they never thought possible “They deserve better “Everyone involved deserves better.” And I have one more, and I realize there’s some messaging been coming in, we may have missed another public comment, so we will take care of that when I finish this last one This is from Lisa White, and she is an education coach with C2C “Thank you for your commitment to equity “and serving the population with disabilities “within our campus community “July will mark my seven-year anniversary “as an educational coach “with the College to Career Program at LBCC “Thank you Dr. Baxter for the referral to the program “While there are two coaches who have been with C2C “since its inception nine years ago, “the shortest term among us is five years “In that time, we have helped develop the program, “along with its originator on campus, Shauna Hagemann “We have helped to shape 2C2 to be the productive “and successful program that it is today “by learning and adapting to the needs of the students, “as well as the guidelines set forth by the Regional Center “I am sure you are all aware of our success rate “with graduates from the program “Keeping that in mind, I would like to respectfully “submit my extreme disappointment at the level of disrespect “that we as dedicated employees are receiving “from the LBCC campus management “But more importantly, the lack of care and consideration “directed toward our student clients “On August 8th 2019, the C2C staff received an email “from Mike Muñoz, VP of Student Services “This letter stated that the official transition “will take place January 2020, “with the goal of hiring permanent personnel “On October 7, 2019, two months after being told “we were going to be terminating, “a meeting was held with C2C staff, Dean Noelle Currell, “Maria Eck Elwell, and human resource personnel “from both the campus and foundation “to answer any questions that we might have “about the transition “In that meeting we were told that we might be terminated “as early as December “We were also told that we could apply “for the new position of instructional aid “However, there would be no full time positions “There are currently three full time coaches “who received benefits “The job would only allow for 19 hours per week, “and the hourly pay rate would be $10 an hour lower “than the coaches currently received “Additionally, the new position would only require “no more than a high school diploma, or GED “Coaches currently require a BA, or equivalent “And this new position of instructional aid “does not require any experience “with students with special needs or the college process “At the time we asked that a new job description “could be created for us, since we are in a unique program, “and none of the job descriptions currently existing “with LBCC match the work that we do “We were told by Dean Currell that human resources “was undergoing an audit, “so new positions could be created at that time “We were told they found what they thought “was the closest match, which as mentioned above, “is quite an insult “Soon after a copy of the October 2019 AFT newsletter “stated that the audit had been completed, “I immediately sent an email to Dean Currell “with a copy of the newsletter attached “In it I quoted the newsletter “and kindly asked Dean Currell, “does this mean that the position of educational coach “for the C2C program could now be reassessed “for the next year when LBCC will be overseeing the program? “I think it is safe to say that the coaches “would greatly appreciate the opportunity

“to reapply for compatible positions “to the ones that we are currently filling “I CCed Maria Eck Ewell, “and Sonia De La Torre-Iniguez in this email “Not one person had the consideration to respond to me “Because the instructional aid position requires “little to no experience and only a high school diploma, “I spoke with a few C2C students “about them applying for the positions “I thought that they were qualified to hold the position “of the ones who will soon be there to assist them “Please explain to me how this transition will make sense? “These students are going from having highly educated “ed coaches to minimally educated aids “How is that going to produce the success “that you have all seen with the current C2C program? “We have been on a month to month threat “of losing our jobs since October 2019 “The students have not been given proper notice, “and there has been absolutely no correspondence “with C2C staff regarding “the plan for a smoother transition “Our student population has difficulty with change “and transition, and there has been no effort “to keep then appraised of the many changes “that would be occurring during and after this transition “While I am very appreciative to be still employed, “it has caused unreasonable and undue stress to the coaches, “as well as to the students “And to add insult to injury, we were given an official termination notice “of June 30th by the foundation “based upon an end date that was given to them by DSPS “But again, this was rescinded, “because DSPS was not yet ready, nor does it seem “they have equitability planned to transition smoothly “It would appear that DSPS does not think “of staff and students as feeling human beings, “but only as numbers on paper “I think I can speak for all of us in saying “that we feel unheard and unappreciated “We coaches and students have been ignored “and left guessing since August 2019, “and it is now the end of June 2020 “Any of us could have found work elsewhere last year “when we received the first letter, “but because we love our work, and we care for our students, “leaving was not a consideration “We are committed to giving them the best service we can “until that is no longer an option “In this time of uncertainty and working from home “due to an unprecedented pandemic, “it would be thoughtful to consider the stresses “that you are adding to our lives, “to the lives of your employees and clients “by remaining indecisive and uncommunicative.” And that is the end of comments for 11.2 – Thank you very much I’d like to thank Jeff Wood, and also Jackie Hann Really appreciate you both I know we’ve had over one hour of public comments, and that was a lot for you to read Really appreciate it I would also like to thank everyone who submitted the public comments, and the Board will be in discussion to determine if we will open up public comments to be presented by these speakers themselves That’s gonna take a little bit of logistics, and our technical staff will have to address that with allowing access to the meeting So that is something that we’ll be working on in the event that we do continue with these Zoom remote meetings So thank you again to everyone for the very insightful comments Really appreciate you all taking the time to submit them – [Jeff] President Malauulu – Yes? – [Jeff] I’m sorry President Malauulu, it’s Jeff There was one letter that came in If you would like, I can go ahead and read it now It’s for 5.1, 5.3, and 5.4 – Sure absolutely Jackie, is that the letter that you were referencing? – Would you give me the name, Jeff? – [Jeff] This is from Dr. Juan Benitez – Yes, that is correct Okay – [Vivian] Okay – [Jeff] Yeah – Sounds good Jeff, thank you, and then when you conclude reading of that letter, we’ll move on the agenda – [Jeff] Thank you This is from Dr. Juan Benitez, commenting on 5.1, 5.3, and 5.4 “Dearest team president of the LBCC Baord, “Trustees and executive staff “As a parent educator in Long Beach, “and vice president of LBUSD’s Board of Education, “I am writing in full support of LBCC “adopting a framework for reconciliation, “building on the work “that the city of Long Beach’s City Council “adopted a couple of weeks ago “I commend you for your consideration “of a framework for LBCC “Our communities have spoken loud and clear “I strongly believe there are concrete steps “that LBCC can and should take to dismantle “institutional racism and eliminate structural inequities “So adopting a framework is an important “and necessary first step “In concert with the city of Long Beach’s framework

“and a partnership with LBUSD, CSULB “to truly achieve a Long Beach promise for all “I am hopeful that your sister educational institutions “in our city will do the same “I look forward to supporting your efforts, “and it’s important to continue hearing from students, “parents, and community members in formal spaces “so that we can convert our formal listening “and convening spaces into concrete policies “and actions, and hold our mutual systems “and institutions accountable “I commend you for considering this framework “now as it demonstrates a sense of urgency “and reaffirm commitment to our black community members “and communities of color that we serve “As a part of this, I also believe that it is important “for you to assess your contracts with police departments, “and your own campus safety division, “and reimagine how resources and funds “can be directed toward more holistic approaches “and campus safety and students, “staff and faculty wellbeing, “and not just merely rely on punitive, “deficit-base policing measures “Lastly, given the demographic profile of the students “and communities we serve, and their challenges, “needs, interests, aspirations and dreams, “it is important for us to dismantle “policies and structures that continue to be impediment “for community empowerment and success “Namely, ACA5 just passed the California State Center “earlier today, so now it’s time “to repeal proposition 209, “and uphold our commitment to genuine, “authentic and true equity “Thank you, Juan M. Benitez, PhD “Parent, educator, “vice president LBUSD Board of Education.” – Thank you so much We will move on to item 2.6 on the agenda, which is the approval of the minutes of the May 27th May 2020 Regular Board of Trustees meeting I’ll entertain a motion and a second pleased – So moved – Second? We have a motion by Trustee Baxter, a second by Trustee Zia Any discussion? All right, Madam Secretary, roll call vote – [Sunny] I’m sorry, I didn’t second I think it was student Trustee (muffled speaking) I’ll second it now Yeah, someone else does need to second it All right – I apologize, it’s hard to distinguish voices when we’re– – [Sunny] I’ll second it Vivian – Okay, second by Trustee Zia Madam secretary, roll call vote please – I’m sorry I’m have here two mouses here and two laptops Let’s start with Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – Aye – Vivian Malauulu – Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto I think he’s having an audio problem I just texted Dario to help him out Possibly, Doug? – Doug, you’re on mute right now I don’t know if you can take your screen off of mute Okay, so maybe just raise up a thumbs up, because we can’t hear you, Doug Okay, he’s raising 10 digits up, okay, got it Thank you – Sunny Zia – Carries, thank you Madam Secretary And one more thing I neglected to say at the beginning when we reconvened for open session, this is just a reminder for the public That we have gone to remote meetings based on Governor Gavin Newsom’s changes softening of the Brown Act in March We are able to conduct our meetings remotely, and all votes have to be done roll call vote So normally we would just be able to, all those in favor and all those apposed, but because we have to answer into record, everything has to be done on roll call All right, thank you very much Moving on the agenda to item 2.7, this is our ASB president report We welcome for the first time giving his report here, Mr. Cesar Fiero – Hi guys, I just wanted to say it’s a pleasure being up here with you guys I’m on with the Board of Trustees I’m looking forward to working with each one of you Hopefully I get to meet you guys in person after this pandemic is over And I just wanted to give you guys a quick, brief update on what I’m doing as a president Currently right now, I am working with students online and I’m trying to make sure there’s transparency among one another, especially with my cabinet We’re in the basis of recruiting right now We’re trying to find some students who are willing to take the lead, and politics, and trying to show their importance with an ASB Other than that I have nothing else to say

I wish you guys luck in the future, and I’m looking forward to working with all of you guys today – Thank you very much, Cesar I just have one question for you, and I don’t mean to put you on the spot, but I’m wondering if you have plans already with ASB to meet right now remotely and to get the new cabinet going? – Currently, we’re not meeting right now, as in the semester just ended So as we’ll start meeting more as we continue throughout the semester, around the beginning of the fall semester Right now we’re just seeking recruitment, seeing if there’s any students interested in joining in the associate student body Then we’ll see from there – Sounds good Very much – President Malauulu? – [Vivian] Yes? – May I say something? Cesar, would you please send me your email? I have two suggestions for you and or Jena to reach out to for potential leadership positions And Jackie will send you my email, ’cause I don’t have yours Okay? – No worries – Thank you Thank you Trustee Baxter Okay, we’re gonna move on to item 2.8, this is our student trustee report, and this is Ms. Jena Jimenez Welcome Jena – Hi everyone I hope everyone is doing well Thing I have to report, well, there’s actually two things The commencement was amazing, and I’m super happy that I was a part of that And congratulations again to the class of 2020 The second thing I do have to report is that the black lives matter movement, we did have a protest that started at Long Beach City College I was there for that protest, it was a peaceful protest, I’m glad to say And it was great to see the community of Long Beach come together Many of the students of Long Beach City College were there, so obviously this movement is very important to students of Long Beach City College Listening to their stories really revealed personal truths that people of color have been experiencing And so I think it is important that we are recognizing this movement as an institution I think that’s a celebration in itself And I’m grateful that we’re opening a discussion to establishing new, different types of methods of policing, and campus security I think it’s great that we’re opening our minds to changes, and being open in general is just super important, I think It allows us to create changes that might be more efficient I do wanna communicate the absolute need for campus security As a woman, I might also be speaking for other women, I do feel the need to have security officers on campus, just because of the sex trafficking trade I don’t want to ignore that that exists, and how powerful that is, and how many women have been targeted and have gone missing And so I recognize those things, and I appreciate campus security does bring safety, but also, I am open and I’m sure the students are really supportive and open to evaluating how we approach security on campus, and how we approach policing on campus So I look forward to the conversation that we’ll have as a Board And thank you so much for recognizing the Black Lives Matter movement It’s very important and very dear to many people’s hearts right now So thank you – Thank you very much Jena for your report, and thank you for your leadership Item 2.9 on the agenda, LBCCFA Bargaining president report I see Diana there, welcome – Hello everybody, good evening I know tonight we have a long agenda, so I will make my remarks brief On behalf of the faculty association, I would like to thank the Board of Trustees and the district, as well as all the faculty who supported our team in finding an agreement to our contract I would be remiss if I didn’t acknowledge two things One is our support for our brothers and sisters of the Classified Union, AFT, and we hope that you will support them in finding a quick settlement regarding their negotiations And secondly, acknowledging the hard work of both teams, but especially acknowledging and publicly thanking FA’s team lead by the chief negotiator Asian Pacific Sofia Beas, Suzanne Engelhardt, Dr. Seth., Suman Mudunuri who was an observer, and our very competent CTA staff,

Tom Kinkava and Kim Brain Lastly, I would like to say I hope the Board will vote for our agreement this evening Thank you – Thank you very much, Diana Now we will move on to item 2.10, AFT bargaining president report And there’s Robert right there, welcome Robert – Thank you, president Good evening Board members, president Malauulu, and superintendent Bynum, and esteemed Board members Tonight I wanna report the negotiations in moving forward in a positive and collaborative environment, and we’re positive that we can come to an agreement in some time in the future soon I hope Tonight I have asked Mark Smith, our VP of AFT, and Angela Fowlkes to give the Board insight into some of the work Classified is doing behind the scenes Away from the campus to support our Viking students success Mark, can you start? – Sure, thank you Rob Good evening Board President Malauulu, Trustees, and for Superintendent-President Bynum, all the vice presidents and the academic and Classified Senate presidents, colleagues, and community members Tonight I just wanna take a moment to acknowledge and thank all of our classified professionals that have worked so hard in the transition to working remotely, as well as those who remain on campus, performing their job each and every day during these difficult, testing months I believe later when you hit agenda item 13.1, you will hear other comments and feedback from various individuals and departments about the challenges that we’ve all encountered while transitioning to the remote environment, as well as the increased workload that comes with that Speaking from my department, in the nursing and health sciences area alone, we’ve seen a dramatic increase in the number of emails, phone calls, student requests We’ve been able to successfully process close to 800 applications for the Registered Nursing Program, over 80 applications for the Vocational Nursing Program, 50 applications for the computed tomography CT Program, and have also continued our open application periods for our EMT, Medical Assisting and Phlebotomy Programs Although it has been challenging, the nursing and health sciences classified team is 100% committed to our students, to our faculty, to our programs for our department, to the college, and to the community that we all serve One of the wonderful things that has come out of this transition, if there is anything wonderful, is the team work, comradery, and the sheer dedication that I have witnessed of our Classified professionals I’ve seen our classified staff from all departments who are helping each other to assist our students and maintain some severance for continuity for faculty and students From admissions to counseling, to our success centers, financial aid, IITS, our health desks, facilities, fiscal services, payroll, human resources, purchasing, grounds, and anyone else that I may have missed I have witnessed first-hand so many examples of Classified and faculty working together as one united team for our students, and it’s actually been really heartwarming and rewarding to see that, and to be a part of that Lastly, I would like to take just a quick moment to commend and thank our LBCC nursing students for their continued hard work and dedication while working in the L.A. County COVID-19 testing locations at those LAC and PTC campuses I’d also like to give praise and thanks to our unbelievable facilities and custodial team for really going the extra mile and doing everything that they can do to keep our campuses clean and safe for our students and faculty that are on campus I’m honored and humbled to be part of this Viking family, perhaps nevermore so than during these unprecedented times I thank you all for allowing me to speak, and go Vikings – Thank you very much to both Robert and Mark, appreciate that And for item 2.11 I understand – Madam President – [Vivan] Oh yes, sorry Robert – I got Angela to talk as well, if you don’t mind – No not at all Welcome Angela, I saw you there – Hi – [Vivian] Welcome – Good evening, good evening I would like to thank everyone for the opportunity to speak to you tonight in regards to my position as a financial aid specialist working remotely Since March the 17th, we’ve transitioned to working home, and it has been challenging, it has been rewarding

Instead of having our students be able to access us now through walking to the front counter and being able to get service, now we have a feature called the Cranium Cafe where students can go online to the financial aid admissions and counselings, and DSPS websites And there’s a chat feature on there, so that’s what I’ve been charged with doing And that is like when you have a shopping experience and you wanna chat with an expert So our students have been able to come online and actually chat with myself And I’m able to answer all their financial aid questions It’s challenging, because the students, they’re used to coming up to the counter They’re used to having that unique experience with you there Now they’re having to learn how to access a lot of different technology They’re dealing with a lot of anxieties and stress It’s a lot of things that are going on behind the scenes with our students, so when you’re on the chat function, or you’re trying to answer emails or phone calls, and like Mark was saying, we have so many emails and so many phone calls, and so many chats from students who are trying to reach us through the call centers And just different methods of trying For so long, they said they weren’t able to get anybody And so now they’re happy to have assistance with someone, but their questions, and their concerns and their worries are really heavy And just trying to encourage them, especially through this pandemic First it was the pandemic, then it was the Black Lives Matter and all the things that were going on there I see my coworker, this feels like we’re working three times as hard as we were working on campus It’s like we’re working three times harder now to try to address our students’ needs and make sure that they’re reaching success, and having equitable experiences Our Classified, like Mark addressed a lot of different positions that are classified represent We are at the students’ frontline, we’re the gatekeepers, we’re the frontline staff when they come So now they’re coming through different methods, and so we’re having to transition and adapt to all these different methods and all this different technology and new systems, and programs and everything, and it’s taxing It gets very, very taxing I wanna thank Dr. Mills, and our Dean Yvonne Guttierez, because we’re updated daily Financial aid, we meet twice a day, and we are given updates But the updates, they change daily We’re getting so many different things, so many things that are going on behind the scenes with our business systems, analysts, trying to process the financial aid to the students And the students are, they’re starting their summer sessions, though they’re wondering where their financial aid is And then we’re trying to get the satisfactory academic progress process running And that’s a lot of behind the scenes and a lot of work that goes into that And so when those students call, they have a variety of questions We have to be mindful of self care We’ve been given an opportunity to Participate in professional development opportunities on self care I know I’ve since suspended, I’ve broken my ankle just not taking care of myself to the best of my ability, because I’m working so much And now we’re doing the 14 schedules for the summer, and that’s sitting down for all those hours and trying to address all the different things that are coming And like I said, things change And in early check ins, things may be this way, but then by the time we get to our four ‘clock check ins, things are totally different So that’s a lot of different information to process And so everybody stay on the same page So I know Classified professionals everywhere are dealing with a lot of challenges, but it’s a blessing to be able to serve for our students, and it’s a blessing to be able to have the tools that we need to be able to address their concerns And to ease their minds And I know sometimes, I’m at the front counter, so I know a lot of the students But when they come through the phone, you can’t read their facial expressions, you don’t know what they’re going through And the one day, about two days ago, I had three students back to back that were dealing with homelessness issues And I had to just listen to their voices and just listen to what their other additional, other problems were that were affecting their academics They were given the opportunity to have an EW, an excused withdrawal this year So a lot of them are concerned about their GPAs, and their completion rates, and all of this stuff And so to be able to reassure them, that takes a lot of skill It takes a lot of patience

Sometimes you go in the morning, you’re fresh, and you got energy, and you’re ready to go By the time you sit down for nine hours, and you’re trying to help the students By the time you get to the end of the day, it’s really, really taxing I know the instructors and I know the counselors have really heavy roles in trying to ed plans, and trying to learn how to adjust to teaching online, and everything, but it’s the same thing for the Classified professionals as well We’re happy to bring our materials home A lot of us don’t have the ergonomically correct areas to work in Like I’m sitting here at a dresser doing my work and stuff So we have a lot of people that are experienced in a lot of different fatigue, and stress, and stuff Like I said, it’s a blessing to be able to help the students and it’s a blessing to be able to have a team, and a leadership team that makes sure that we are informed And they ask us They ask us, do we have what we need? Is there anything that we need? Is there anything that they can do for us? And I just wanted to let you guys know from a financial aid’s professional’s perspective the workload that we have in working remotely Working remotely has been challenging, it has been a lot of work You got our Dean come on, and you can tell she’s in meeting after meeting, but she still comes on and provides us with the information that we need So I know all of us are really working hard and everything, but I just wanna say thank you for the opportunity to speak I just would like the Classified voice to valued, experience to be valued, our work to be valued In regards to the Black Lives Matter, when I broke my ankle, I didn’t go to the hospital for three weeks And then when we started having discussions on healing, starting having Zoom sessions through, the students, the student body and just different things to address what’s going on in the world today, I realized I knew I was sick right before the COVID too, and I remember Dr. Mills coming over and saying, “You’re sick, why don’t you go home?” And I remember Sarah Compton from Scholarships said, “You’re really sick, why don’t you just go home? “Why do you come to work every day?” But that goes to my dad My dad is a 86 year old man from Selma, Alabama, and he’s always a student He came to visit me the other day to check on me about my leg And I told him, I said, “You know what you did, dad? “You’re the best dad in the world, “but you instilled in me that my value wasn’t there “You always told me that I had to go to work “If I didn’t go to work, they could get rid of me “I have to remember that I’m black, “I have to remember my place in the workplace.” Remember, they’ll get rid of you But I don’t wanna feel like that as a black woman who comes to work and works hard, ’cause I’m dedicated to the students And I also don’t wanna feel like that as a Classified employee either I value what I do, I know I work really hard I’m dedicated to the college, the Classified, All the work of the college, all the work that we do There’s a lot of things that were said today, these different resolutions and stuff that really touched a lot of us in our daily work But I don’t wanna feel like I can’t come to work, because I’ll get displaced, or I’ll get replaced It’s been so many times that I just worked, through sickness and through everything, because I didn’t really feel valued So I just wanna tell you thank you guys for an opportunity to speak Thank you Robert for inviting me, and I just wish you all the best, and I hope that we all come together, and come to some great solutions for our students and for ourselves Okay, have a blessed evening – Thank you, Angela – Thank you very much Angela for that heartfelt story that you shared, especially about your dad Robert, do you have anything else to add, or does that conclude your report? – That concludes my report Thank you so much for letting us present this to you tonight – Absolutely, thank you very much Item 2.11, I understand from staff that there is no one on the call representing CHI, the Certificate of Hourly Instructors They were invited, however, there’s nobody on right now So now we’re gonna move on to item 2.12, which is reordering of the agenda Do any trustees wish to move anything around on the agenda? All right, seeing that, we’ll move on to section three, and that is the Superintendent-President Report, Lou Anne Bynum, please – Thank you, President Malauulu and Board members First of all, I just wanna wish everybody a safe and healthy summer And I hope that you get a chance to relax a little bit and do some things that you haven’t been able to do But I think everybody’s looking forward to that Before I get into my report, I do wanna talk about two faculty members who are retiring I know one of them very well, and the other one a little bit

But let me first begin with Debra Whittaker She’s a professor of philosophy Debra has been with us since 2005, and she’s been a professor the whole time She has also been Social Sciences Department Head, and coordinator for our study abroad program And we appreciate all the work that she has done in that regard Prior to coming to Long Beach, she was a part time instructor at Long Beach City College, a part time instructor at Cal State Long Beach, a teacher in at the Bellflower Unified School District I commend teacher who work in school districts in K through 12, because it isn’t an easy job And also a teacher in the juvenile courts So we wanna wish Debra the very best in her retirement, and I hope that she’s looking forward to it, and looking forward to some extra time Our other faculty member is Anne Mitchell Anne is a professor in photography Anne started in 1998, and she’s served 22 years here at the district She’s been a professor the whole time I’ve seen some of the amazing work that she’s done, and the work that she’s done with their students Prior to coming to Long Beach City College, she was a part time instructor at Santa Anna College, and a part time instructor at Coastline Community College, and then a part time instructor at Santa Monica So there’s always a chance, if you hang in there long enough, and show your good stuff, that we were lucky enough to be able to hire her But I wanna wish Professor Mitchell and Professor Whitaker the very best, and thank you for their contributions here at the college People like these two are what makes the college so wonderful, I think, and gives us such a great legacy and history I know that these past few weeks have been very, very difficult for people I don’t think anybody could have foreseen what this semester would be like with everything that’s happened But in true Viking form, our students, faculty and staff are standing in solidarity with our black community, and with our black students, and asking very directly how they can help further our commitment to student equity, and help our students of color We are gaining, everybody should know, and most of you do know this, we are gaining in equity all the way around We are not closing the equity gaps or the achievement gaps yet, and we have a lot more work to do about that There’s an item on the Board agenda tonight that Trustee Ntuk put on that will help us move this along, and we all look forward to being able to do more And we do have some bright spots that bring us all together The students we serve here at Long Beach City College Like many of you, I was able to attend our virtual commencement ceremony on Friday, June 12th, and celebrate the class of 2020 It was a very amazingly well done, and emotional, and I was surprised about that It was a very emotional event, I thought We had more than 1,300 views when the ceremony premiered that day on YouTube, and another 1,300 on Facebook And today we would had, over 61,000 people take a loot at YouTube and look at the commencement ceremony We had 619 graduates participate, and they were able to provide a personalized photo and a message that they can put I just wanted to point out too, in 2019, we had 800 graduates who participated in the in-person ceremony But I wanna thank everybody who worked so hard to put that together, our staff, our faculty, our student speakers were amazing, our valedictorian, and Chef T It was a great ceremony, it took a lot of work, but thank you very much And I’m glad that we’ve got it, that people can watch it as often as they want, and I hope the students save that Last Monday we had a Chromebook laptop distribution that we’re very pleased to announce that 84 people, who are incoming students of Long Beach City College from Kabul and Jordan They signed up for Viking summer voyage, and they’re going to enroll at Long Beach City College for the fall A special thank you to the Long Beach Center for Economic Inclusion for the donation This was part of a city-wide #InThisTogetherLongBeach pandemic emergency response campaign And I wanna thank the following for their support and their assistance too Our own LBCCD Board of Trustees Vice President, Uduak Ntuk, Long Beach Council member Rex Richardson, Long Beach Unified School District Board Member, Megan Kerr, Superintendent Chris Steinhauser from the school district, LBCEI Board Chair, Bob Cabeza, bridge development partners, Rosindo Solis Wells Fargo Vice President and community relations senior consultant, Lyndon Mann,

Human IT CEO Gabe Middleton, and our own LBCC Foundation executive director Paul Kaminski The event was really well organized New staff came out to support it, and it was a great success And I wanna thank everybody that was involved in that And we’re looking forward to getting those students from Kabul and Jordan in the fall Also, last week, everybody I’m sure is aware that the United States Supreme Court rejected a plan to repeal the deferred action for childhood arrivals that we’ve all been calling DACA The practical effect of this ruling is that California Community College is to immediately disperse emergency financial aid grants to students for expenses related to Coronavirus disruption, without regard to the student’s ability under the title four of the Higher Education Act, or their immigration status This college has supported DACA for several years We believe that everyone has the right to an education and the opportunity to better their lives, no matter what their immigration status is Yesterday, Long Beach City College’s Dream Services and the Healthy Viking Initiative posted a student debriefing workshop about the Supreme Court’s recent decision, and provided our students with resources, resiliency, and self-care information We are very pleased with that decision by the court to uphold the DACA program, and that’s going to help many of the Long Beach City College students We also had another piece of additional good news this week The supreme court also ruled that the Civil Rights Act of 1964, protects LGBTQ employees from workplace discrimination nationwide Although California already has laws in place to protect LBGTQ employees, this ruling though is another historic civil rights milestone in the LGBTQ community, and another step towards equality for all So those are two great pieces of information this week I wanted to inform the Board, I had mentioned before that I was meeting with the mayors and the city managers of the cities in our district Last month I met with the mayor of Lakewood, and I recently met with the mayors of Avalon and Signal Hill I think these meetings have been very good, very productive I’d given them updates on COVID-19, some of our legislative and budget priorities, and the summer session and fall semester plans It was very clear to me that they appreciate the collaborative working relationship they have with the college, and some really great ideas were generated to work more closely together So hopefully they’ll be taking advantage of some of the programs too We had a lot of discussion about some of the small businesses in the area too, and about the loans that are available through our SBDC We continue to monitor legislation and the state budget process We participate regularly in the lead’s advocacy briefings and opportunities to discuss our priorities with our local state and federal officials Most of you know that on Monday, Governor Gavin Newsom and Senate President Pro Tem, Toni Atkins, and Assembly speaker Anthony Rendon announced their agreement on the 2021 state budget Our director of finance, John Thompson, will provide information for you a little later on this agenda on our proposed budget Some items of interest, you know we have ACA5 on the agenda tonight There’s a large movement of community colleges to support this, and a lot of information is being shared about this, and it’ll be good to see what comes of this, and I’m happy that we’ve got that on a resolution tonight There’s some federal pieces of legislation that are important to community colleges and our students One of them is the Skills Renewal Act that would promote and expand a role for community and technical colleges in re-skilling the work force, particularly during this pandemic As we know, millions of Americans have lost their jobs in COVID, and we are well-positioned, and in a unique position really in this region to be able to help our workers gain new skills And we’re probably going to see more people from that population enrolled in the college, and we’re looking forward to helping them We also supported the Advanced Technological Manufacturing Act This is a National Science Foundation Advanced Technological Education Program It’s great importance for students at community colleges as well It focuses on education in high technology areas, it focuses on partnering community colleges within the stream, and it also supports curriculum rework

and new curriculum for high technology jobs We’re continuing to monitor legislative efforts to increase funding in programs related to Maritime Centers And we’re in a good position, I think, if that authorization goes through, the Maritime administration to get a community college Maritime Center training grant, so we’re keeping a close eye on that Speaking of Maritime Centers, I just wanted to let the community know that the Port of Long Beach Maritime Center of Excellence hosted at Long Beach City College, is now registering community members who are interested in careers in global logistics and supply chain industries The center, as we all know, is a professional development program offering short term programs for people interested in developing or expanding their skills in logistics, supply chain, and international business sectors The training is developed and taught by industry professionals in these industries, and we’re hoping to get a lot of our local community involved in this It’s being offered at a reduced rate, I want everybody to know that, due to the generous contributions of the Port of Long Beach, and California Community Colleges, Los Angeles region priority sectors, and global trade And scholarships are available LBCC.edu/maritimecenter will get you that information Last month we celebrated Asian Pacific Islander Sea Month, and I wanna remind our students that the APID student resource guide is available from the Long Beach City College website It provides students with resources, tips, and profiles of our our LBCC Asian Pacific Islander faculty and staff Also finally, but certainly not least, I wanna congratulate the teams from the college, and the faculty association human resources for their hard work in reaching in tentative agreement These things are never easy This is probably a very difficult time to try to even look at these kinds of items, but I really appreciate the fact that everybody, head down, bum up, worked really hard to get, I think, what is a good negotiated agreement for both faculty and for the college I specifically wanna thank them individually, Jamet Hund, the chief negotiator Ron Chambrim, Setherman, I think that’s Seth Sofia Beas, Suzanne Engelhardt, Suman Mudunuri, she was an observer And from our district, Gene Durand, our vice president, who was the chief negotiator Kristin Olson, Lisa Orr, and Noelle Currell So thank you very much, we really appreciate the hard work that you did And it was a team effort, and that concludes my report Thank you – Thank you very much Lou Anne, appreciate that, all the information that you shared – You’re welcome – Now we will move on Very excited, we have two sabbatical presentations coming up Section four on the agenda, 4.1, is a sabbatical report by Jennifer Nellis, and I’m gonna defer, actually, both of them to Dr. Kathy Scott 4.2 is Dr. Jamet Hund Dr. Scott, take it away – Thank you Board president Malauulu Firstly, I’d like to say that we’re very grateful to the Board for their support of faculty sabbaticals The work that’s done to the sabbaticals is very, very significant And the two that are being presented tonight are particularly significant and timely The first is Professor Jennifer Nellis, and as we as an institution look at how we are approaching instruction right now, her sabbatical project is really a wonderful example of how we can intentionally center our student experience and our student voice in the curriculum process So I’m very pleased to have her presenting tonight, and I’ll throw it to her, go ahead – Okay, thank you very much Dr. Scott, and thank you Board of Trustees for having me So my intent of my sabbatical project was to think about multimodality, because English classes privilege alphabetic texts and essays So I wanted to think about the ways that I could incorporate podcasting, video essay, infographics, so that students could come up with more rich texts to create meaning So next slide But what I found in my research is that multimodality became this really authentic way for me to teach rhetorical literacy And we could think about audience, genre, evidence,

and I wasn’t just going to have students translate a research paper, for example, into a podcast That didn’t make rhetorical sense So now with multimodality, we have these really authentic ways to talk about rhetoric And then the deeper I got into the research, I realized that multimodality allowed me to not only enact rhetorical literacy, but also anti-racist pedagogy, because the English professor was decentered in the assessment process Because I now have a range of assignments, not just academic essays, many voices were welcomed into the classroom Next slide please So this is an example of one of my modules I was able to create four with the time that I had, and so this isn’t a module on microaggressions And so this is kind of my backwards design So you see, we start at the top with the very traditional activity we do in English classes, we read and analyze scholarship on microaggressions, and we’re practicing understanding rhetoric Then I’m able to move to step two where I weave in the multimodality, and students assess multimodal projects that engage with microaggressions So we look at infographics, we listen to podcasts, we look at 30 second PSAs We even play a video game that’s a microaggression simulator, and talk about the rhetorical effectiveness of those Then when students have practiced consuming information on microaggressions, now they’re ready to produce their own projects So that’s step three They create a multimodal project based on an imagined organization or institution that wants to address microaggressions, and then to bring it to the level of English One, students write a business proposal for that multimodal project, and then afterwards write a rhetorical analysis of its effectiveness Then we move into step four, where we do the anti-racist pedagogy and assessment, where we co-produce rubrics that talk about what criteria these projects should be assessed And that really gives students agency over the assessment process And then, the final step in this particular module is students compose a researched argument, and they can pick between two topics They either write about the extent to which microaggressions are a problem within that organization that they selected, or they compose a solution paper for that organization in addressing microaggressions Next slide please So this is a list, it’s not an exhaustive list, of the various examples of audience choices that students chose And I do wanna highlight one from this semester, a student who was a foster youth She talked about how she wished adoption agencies gave adoptive families literature on microaggressions, because it would have improved her experience as a foster youth And so she made a brochure, and then she wrote an argument paper about the extent to which microaggressions are a problem within adoptive families So I hope you see that these real world audiences are relevant to our students’ lived experiences that they become a voice for change They see language that could help them be a voice for change, and yes So let’s move on to the next slide This is just a quick example of some of the infographics that students created I can’t share the podcasts and the video essays, because of my time constraint here So next slide I did have a bunch of student testimonials, but again, for time constraints, if you’re interested, I can talk about them, but I just included them here for posterity And then I can go to the next slide And then I wanted to talk briefly about the professional applications of my sabbatical project at the college and beyond I was supposed to present at Flex Day in March, but then the COVID happened, and the move to remote instruction, so I’m hoping something can happen in the fall, both for campus-wide faculty and the English Department I also presented at a conference in Sacramento in February, and the conference organizers were so impressed with the quality of my materials And I got really positive responses in my presentation, but they had interviewed me, and the interview about using multimodality, especially in our co-requisite courses will be published in an upcoming CAPacity Gazette I think that should be published by the end of this semester, or the summer, excuse me

And then next slide And so again, I wanna thank you so much It was so reinvigorating to my career, and I am so excited The students are excited, and I have so much more to share, but unfortunately you have a very long agenda, so thank you so much – Thank you very much And then Dr. Scott will introduce Dr. Hund – Thank you Board President Malauulu Dr. Hund’s sabbatical product was similarly very critical Her proposal to reimagine our Faculty Internship Program into a Faculty Diversity Internship Program will have a lasting impact on our students and will continue to enhance our efforts to diversify our faculty So please go ahead, Dr. Hund – Thank you so much Dr. Scott, and just so pleased to follow Jen Nellis, such a great project she completed And just before I start, I do wanna thank the Board for approving my sabbatical It was an amazing year, and although it seems very long ago, I have these three tangible products that I will just kind of briefly go over here So I was fortunate enough to decide to do my sabbatical partly on my chapter two of my dissertation My dissertation I completed a year ago May, and my dissertation was entitled, “Critical Race and Identity Analysis of Student Success, “Effects of Race-Ethnicity and Gender “of Faculty Members and Students.” And my Chapter two of the dissertation was looking at all the literature having anything to do with any of those components Particularly looking at the role of faculty of color on student success So I have chapter two, that’s my first tangible product My second tangible product is I reviewed seven faculty diversity internship programs, and I wrote a Best Practices Document based on those seven community college programs that I reviewed, one of which was Long Beach City College And then finally I created the first ever Long Beach City College Faculty Diversity Internship Program Handbook I have been a mentor in that program four times, and I reviewed in my Best Practices other programs that had a handbook, and said, “Hey, we totally need to do this.” And so I’m really proud of the document that I created Next slide please All right, so just a little slice of my literature review So, I found quite a few qualitative studies that pointed to the positive impact that teachers of color have on the success of students of color in the K16 arena, kindergarten through community college And yet I found minimal studies that were quantitative studies looking at this issue, trying to determine the impact that faculty of color may have on students of color And so I bravely decided to do a quantitative study to add to the literature Next slide please And just again, a few snippets of some of the research that I came across The first one is Hagedorn and Researchers published in 2007, where they pointed out the presence of Latino faculty on campus may increase the availability of role models for students, and foster a sense of belonging and social integration among students Another publication by Kenworthy noted that many students of color actually desire to have more teachers of color The study suggested that a core reason that teachers of color may find favor with students, is because they have experienced the feeling of being a don-dominant member of society, and thus they understand their challenges better Steele published quite a few articles and books on the topic of critical mass He wrote about how critical mass equates with this presence of enough people of color in the school setting, or in a college campus, so that individual people of color no longer feel uncomfortable there They no longer feel marginalized So I think that critical mass study was really important, although there’s no definitive number There were quite a few studies that also mentioned critical mass,

which we do not have at our institution Next slide please And so I wanted to just add, remember when I went on sabbatical, some of you said, “I really am curious “to see what you find in your study.” And so I actually looked at Long Beach City College data I looked at 70,000 course completion records from the years 2014 through 2018 to find out if students are impacted by their same-race ethnic faculty And I found that for African American and Latinx students that when they are taught by their same-race ethnic faculty at Long Beach City College, their course completion rates are higher The data actually found that for white students, it didn’t seem to have any impact, the race-ethnicity of their faculty members But particularly for African American students, when they’re taught by African American faculty, their course completion rates are above a 2.0 And unfortunately, when they’re taught by the other race-ethnic groups, it isn’t even at a 2.0 or a C grade So that’s kind of a snippet, and I do recommend in my dissertation that hiring more African and Latinx faculty would seem to serve our student body, and enhance the course completion rates for African American and Latinx students Next slide please And so my next product again was creating this Faculty Diversity Internship Program Best Practices document And so I had the great fortune to visit six other colleges, or chat with them on the phone, or do a Zoom session to learn about what they’re doing successfully in their internship programs Next slide please And so I contacted individuals from Coast Community College District, of course our college Los Rios Community College District up north, which I found them to be the most impressive that I modeled my final product manual after Also San Mateo Community College District, Santa Clarita Community College District, and then lastly SDICCCA, San Diego Imperial Counties Community College Association Faculty Internship Program And so I contacted both faculty and individuals in human resources who worked on this program, and from those contacts, I also reviewed the documents that they had published, and I put together my, I think it’s about a seven, eight page Best Practices Document Next slide please And so just a little bit of a highlight with Los Rios, they had recently revamped their program, and they provided a really great model for what Long Beach City College can do They have a more intentional program that is much more infused with equity, and issues of diversity and always keeping the student the center piece of everything that they’re doing in their Faculty Diversity Internship Program Again, they have quite a presence online That’s something that we at our college, we do not really have They have the handbook, that again, I modeled after theirs They have a task force consisting of both faculty and individuals from human resources that coordinate their program Again, that’s also very different than how we do it here Like us, they do have institutionalized support for all of their mentors and mentees And they also provide evaluations throughout their program Again, good models for what we can do to improve our program And they have a fall training class with their program for all of the individuals that apply to the mentorship program And just in case you don’t really know what that is, let’s say that there’s someone who has a Master’s or a PhD, but they’ve never taught at the community college, and they’re trying to get in, they could actually apply to our Faculty Diversity Internship Program, and if accepted they get to be matched with a faculty member at the college for one year And Los Rios does a great job providing this fall education for the interns or the mentees, before they ever get connected with their faculty mentor And so I loved what they did so much that that became another project that I worked on, aside from this sabbatical project And then lastly on this screen, you see that they instituted an FDIP completer status box

on all of their faculty applications so that anyone that is screening faculty, they will know that someone has completed the Faculty Diversity Internship Program at their institution Next slide please And the final product that I created was this Faculty Diversity Internship Program Handbook And thank you Dr. Bynum, or Superintendent-President Bynum, you wrote a letter that I included in our sample handbook It’s about a 20-page document that kinda tells you what is this program about, why do we have this program, what does Long Beach City College faculty and student demographics look like, what would be the roles of a mentor, what would be the roles of an intern And then I have a lot of voices throughout the handbook of faculty who served in the program as mentors, as individuals who’ve completed the program as mentees And then I also had student voices in there, kind of speaking to the importance of faculty diversity internship program So I have also included one of my lovely mentees, Shaheen Johnson, who we hired full time as she has completed her first year as tenure track faculty member But she came through this program just a couple of years ago She was a K12 teacher for a while, she had her master’s in sociology, and she just needed to get into the system And she was just an amazing person to mentor I think I learned as much from her as she did from me, but that’s really the beauty of a successful internship program And she kind of talks about that here in the quote, about how important that opportunity was for her And it was just a beautiful thing to have mentored her, and then come across all this literature review that really speaks to the importance of faculty of color And in some research studies, the importance of African American female faculty, the particular insights that they can offer students And I just found like the whole entire sabbatical experience was everything just seemed to be jelling together in my sabbatical life, but also my professional life at the college And just thank you very much for the opportunity, I’m happy to take any questions It’s hard to put all of this in a nutshell, but I did my best – Thank you very much I’d like to commend both of you on the great work that you’ve done with your sabbatical I guess your tangibles, the products that you have created Jennifer Nellis I just wanna let you know that you spoke to my heart when you said that you feel reinvigorated after your sabbatical That is so true So hopefully you’ll able to start this new academic year, you missed out on all the remote learning, and missed out on all the fun that entailed But hopefully you’re able to start this new year with a renewed energy and passion And Dr. Hund, thank you very much Looking forward to the complete execution of the programs that you’ve implemented, especially the committees, so thank you very much – Thank you – Board members, yes, Trustee Baxter? – Yes, I just wanted to make a comment Thank you very much to both of you Excellent presentation Years ago we had sabbatical presentations at Board meetings, and we got rid of them, and I thought that was a serious mistake, because the whole idea of the sabbatical is for you to share your ideas with others And so, I don’t know, President Malauulu, if you did this, I’ll give you credit anyway, okay, for bringing this up and having it presented But I think they were both very worthwhile, and I appreciated hearing from both of you – No, it definitely was not me, but I was in favor of having the sabbatical presentations Since I’ve been on the Board, we have had them, so it something that has been pretty consistent I think halfway through my first year on the board we started seeing them a lot more So thank you very much – [Uduak] President Malauulu? – Yes, Mr. Ntuk? – [Uduak] Yeah, I just wanna say thank you to I guess newly minted Dr. Nellis and Dr. Hund It’s not very often you get to change your name and put some new letters before and after, so congratulations I think both of these presentations are really examples of what academia can do for those not in academia Not everybody has the opportunity to go to graduate school,

or go to college, and let alone be able to do their doctoral research and dissertation And I’m glad that we have the opportunities at our community college to allow our faculty, allow our employees to go on and do this type of work that we know will better the institution So I just wanted to say thank you to them both, to both of you for the two presentations, and I know they’re both listed on the agenda for tonight as far as attachments, so anybody wanted to follow up on the PowerPoints, they can find them there I just wanted to say thank you to Dr. Hund who’s on here We’ve known each other a very long time I think you bring a very critical race lens to campus, and I know you have black family members, and you’ve traveled to Africa, and it gives a unique perspective We did that equity project together where we read, “The New Jim Crow,” as a student mentoring program That really is, I think, maybe was the beginning of what became of your dissertation But I wanted to ask a few questions, and I thought it was insightful that you did pull Long Beach City College data to look at the outcomes in the different demographics, and kind of the history match, like how does this actually apply to our students? And I thought it was interesting So much have been talking about addressing systemic racism with black folks, black students and black faculty It’s good to see that the pattern improves the Latinx It’s good to see that you address the issues of black community, that also improves situations for other members of the community And it’s a lesson learned, or opportunity to be built out for each of the other demographic groups And I almost was thinking, and I wanted to ask you a question, and that’s a question Did you see an inverse relationship? We have this achievement gap of mainly predominantly white faculty Did you see that there was any correlation of the higher performance of white students, to white faculty members as like a proof? – Great question So just to clarify, what I found is that when African American students are taught by African American faculty, their course completion rates, their successful course completion rates are the highest That was also true for Latinx faculty when they are taught by Latinx faculty Their successful course completion rates are the highest And when I looked at white, or Euro American students, I did not find that It was nothing of statistical significance, all right? So it didn’t help them, it didn’t hinder them, it didn’t matter what the race-ethnicity of their faculty was But a very important finding, I think, was particularly for African American students I mean, it was just startling when I looked at that data, that it is only when they are being taught by African American faculty that they’re successfully as a group, in terms of the mean, completing their courses successfully I mean, this is just I think such important data It’s the second community college study, my results basically affirmed the only other community college study done on this topic for African American students, without a doubt, they are benefiting when they have same race ethnic faculty My study found the same for Latinx students The other quantitative study did not, the importance wasn’t quite as significant But yes, that answers your question So for white students it doesn’t seem to matter – [Uduak] That’s good to know that it’s not net sum game where people will lose if you help others It’s good to see it play out in the data – And I will just say, I would not be the person I am today without the faculty who taught me in undergrad, which was a very diverse group of people at my undergrad institution They shaped what I think about, how I think about it, so shout out to them – [Uduak] Awesome I have a small slice of experience in teaching I taught at Long Beach State But I first before that did the project Match at LACCD, and I know there’s different iterations of programs out there, and it’s great to see the summering of it, or the different versions, like Los Rios, or up and down the state And I also did that course over at Dominguez Hills

They have a community college teaching certificate, where I found that some of the people who do that program signed up for our internship program as a pathway into teaching But it’s kind of apropos tonight This was kind of, in some ways, a bandaid solution, because of the structural restrictions of Prop 209 Did you look at that, or how that would impact? A lot of times say, “Well, we wanna do a Latinx program “We wanna do an API program.” Oh, you can’t do it, it’s illegal under Prop 209 How did this type of program address that? – This is something that has been supported at the state-wide level It’s actually in Ed Code So and the Ed Code says, I think Gene Durand could probably read it a little bit more clearly It’s in my dissertation if you wanna pull it up for me, but these Diversity Internship Programs are designed with the intent to diversify the faculty I have attended a conference that kinda talks about how you do have to be careful, because the state doesn’t abide by affirmative action any longer But these are supported in Ed Code, and the college does get money for their EEO Program to support This is one of the, I think, losing the name if them, but the nine different, multiple measures of what an EEO program can and should be doing to support diversity at the college – [Uduak] Awesome, thanks for that clarification And just lastly, if you’re willing, I would love to put on a future agenda a copy of your manual or Best Practice and start the process of looking, institutionalizing your findings at Long Beach City College, and upgrading our program I know we have a good program, we have a program already, but it can always be better And it would be, I think, really put your research into practice on campus We can adjust our program, our funding, our policies to match up with the best practices – And I actually worked on it this spring Kristin Olson knows more information on this, but I worked really hard on creating the training modules for our program to be revamped, and the finalized handbook So I am told that the program may take affect, not this year, but next year And I would say urgency is The time is now, but hopefully, the time will be for this program in one year – [Uduak] Great, thank you so much, that’s all I have – [Janet] Thank you – [Vivian] Thank you so much Trustee Ntuk Any other questions or comments from colleagues on the Board? All right, well congratulations once again to Jennifer Nellis, and Dr. Janet Hund, really appreciate the time and your presentation And now we will go on to item 4.3, which is our Facilities Master Plan update And from what I understand is Walter Johnson, who lead us in the flag salute earlier this evening, will be doing the presentation Vice President Marlene Drinkwine is not here joining us at the meeting But in her stead, we will have, let’s see, John Thompson, I’ll defer to you to introduce So Walter Johnson, so relation, right? I’m sorry John Tom – President Malauula, I think it’s Bob Rapoza who will be introducing them – [Vivian] Got it, okay thank you There you go, Bob Rapoza, welcome And you’ll be introducing Walter Johnson? – Yes, I will So Board members, we appreciate the opportunity to address you, and our senior facilities director Walter Johnson will speak on the facilities’ master plan update – Okay, thanks everyone, good evening As you can see on the screen, this is the agenda that I would be discussing in detail throughout the presentation Next slide please During the COVID-19 crisis, construction is considered an essential service LBCC facilities along with Cordoba, the bond management team, continue to support this essential critical infrastructure Next slide please The district completed several scheduled maintenance projects this past year, including the LAC Campus Water Conservation Project, and the PCC ADA upgrades Next slide please Ongoing projects include the LAC ADA upgrades and LAC CDC exterior painting,

with a schedule completion date of June 2020 Next slide please Several district-wide energy projects were completed in the district as well, on the way of achieving compliance with the various governors’ executive order to achieve district-wide net zero goal about 2045 These projects include the following The LED Lighting Retrofits to several campus buildings, parking lot lights on both campuses Next slide please And the 65 electric vehicle changing station at the LAC parking structure, and 25 EV charging stations at PCC Lot 10 Next slide please The completed construction projects include LAC Building L, which is library renovation This project was completed in spring of 2020, and with a total project budget of $1.3 million Next slide please Current construction projects include building J-Auditorium, renovation to the current LAC auditorium is scheduled to be completed later this summer Next slide please The PCC parking structure The parking structure will serve 500 to 600 vehicles for long term student and staff parking The total project budget is $21.5 million, with a scheduled completion date of spring 2021 Next slide please LAC Building X, Central Plant Expansion This project would accommodate our upcoming growth The total project budget is $6.1 million, with a scheduled completion date of fall 2020 Next slide please LAC Kinesiology Lab and Aquatic Center, outdoor Kinesiology Labs, commonly referred as the KLAC The total project budget is $74.7 million, with a scheduled project completion date of fall 2021 Next slide please LAC Building M – the Multi-Disciplinary Classroom This is the first state funded project utilizing the design-build entity The total project budget is 77.5 million, with a scheduled completion date of fall 2022 Next slide please The last current construction project is LAC Building S, which is stadium repairs Concrete repairs are complete, and the press box windows and paint is scheduled for this summer Next slide please The follow up dates consist of projects currently in design and upcoming design projects LAC Building G and H, music theater complex User group’s meetings are ongoing The total project budget is $79 million, with a scheduled project completion date of spring 2022 Next slide please PCC Building MM, Construction PhaseAye Construction documents were recently approved by the Division of State Architect, DSA The total project budget is 19.6 million, with a scheduled completion date of spring 2022 Next slide please Upcoming design projects consist of the following District-wide, door access control standards, feasibility study LAC Building E, College Center LAC Building S, Vet Stadium And PCC Building MM, Construction Trades II, which is pending state approval These projects are in various state of feasibility review, and/approval, with anticipated construction start dates ranging from summer of 2022, to the spring of 2025 And that concludes my presentation – Great, thank you so much Walter So we would ask if the Board has any questions at this point in time – [Vivian] Go ahead Trustee Baxter, I see your hand – Okay, first Walter, I hope you’re not insulted by this, but I’m very impressed that you learned PCC I don’t know if somebody told you that,

but I’m very impressed with that – No, no I’m not insulted at all – I have three other questions, comments – Sure Probably the construction that I’ve received the most questions of in the community, is the Kinesiology and Aquatic Center When the city or the state builds things, they put up a big sign and say, “Your tax dollars at work.” And we did that Oh, Lou Anne, you remember maybe 10 years ago On the corner of Carson and Clarke, we had a big sign What things were paid for, and what things were done – Yeah, that was our first bond – Yeah Just a suggestion, do whatever you want with that, but I think the public is interested The most comments that are given to me is how beautiful both campuses look, and that people are pleased with what we’ve done with the bond money that we’ve been entrusted to So I don’t know if that’s possible, or why we didn’t do it anymore, but that’s, whatever Then lastly, I am so glad to hear that the FF Building is come down, F Building That building has been obsolete for 20 years And has no central air, it just doesn’t have a good feel to it So I’m so glad that’s happening, so that’s wonderful But I am concerned about the G building, which is the music building, because I raised funds for several rooms in that building, and I wanna make sure that somehow those contributions are maintained in the new product So just, we’ll be watching that, let me put it that way Because one is the roof to that concert hall, which created endowment that lasts forever for the Music Department, and several other rooms, and I don’t wanna get into that But I think it’s gonna be a beautiful complex when it’s done, looking at the plans So good job – Well, thank you I agree And I go back with the bond management team on making sure that we take care of your issues The signage is one that we’ve actually been in discussion with the bond management team, on providing a job sign This plan, everything that you discussed, so those are one of the things that we are currently in discussions with right now – Okay Great job, thank you very much – [Walter] Thank you – [Vivian] Thank you very much Any other Board member? – [Uduak] President Malauulu? – [Vivian] Yes, Trustee Ntuk – Hey Walter, thank you so much for the presentation I wanna say, are you at your one year anniversary since we got you from Berkeley? – Yeah, actually, one year and four days right now – [Uduak] All right, congratulations – [Walter] Thank you – [Uduak] I think that’s the end of the probationary period, right? – Yes it is – [Uduak] So congratulations – [Vivian] That’s why he has to do a presentation, right? – [Uduak] Yeah, this is the final– – [Vivian] He did another one, so this is his second – [Uduak] Okay, good Thank you so much, this is an area that we get asked about a lot on campus We do the photo ops, and ground breaking, and it’s really about making sure that we have quality facilities for our community, and making sure it’s ED accessible We have energy-efficient equipment and lighting And I had a couple questions for you – Sure – [Uduak] I know we had updated our membership, where we have joined the Association for the Advancement of Sustainability and Higher Education, AASHE – AASHE, yes – [Uduak] All right When I introduced the Board, maybe a year and a half ago, it has some reporting requirements as part of membership I’ve never seen the report come back to the Board, I don’t know if we’ve done the report But I don’t know if you can talk about, we got the award for our energy efficiency programs from the Chancellor’s Office, as part of our bond money because we’re spending bond dollars that ends up reducing our overhead, our operations cost and utility bills, which frees up more money in the general fund for programs, and staff, and faculty, and all the student services Can you give me an update on the AASHE reporting, and how that’s coming along? Or if that’s something you need a little more information and report back to us on – Yeah, on the AASHE report, that’s something I would have to get more information and report back to you on But as far as the sustainability component,

we’ve completed several projects to help reduce our energy costs, and we have several projects planned as well to reduce our energy cost and put more money back into the general fund But I will circle back and gather more information on the AASHE component of it – [Uduak] Great, thank you I think is a great example of, it’s not choosing between the economy and the environment, we can protect the environment and make fiscal sense that helps the institution, and help us serve students That’s a great example I also had a question on Building D and the student union, at LAC Campus in particular I think we have the new kind of student lounge at PCC That’s one of the places students spend the most time, and I think it’s further down on the schedule Is there any way to move up the student union D up in the schedule to? I mean, we’re gonna spend the money anyways Can we spend it sooner to have a better student lounge and student experience? – We did some renovations to the student union in-house, this past year while I first got here And yeah, I can circle back with Vice President Drinkwine, and the bar management team And we did some reordering for some projects pretty recent, so I can go back and circle back, and see what the hierarchy on that do the student union fall in And just some feedback, and see if there’s a possibility of moving it up – [Uduak] That’s great And then last question, you had mentioned signage, and evaluating options I went to Long Beach State, and they had a lot of really nice campus art work We have this green open spaces that almost are ideal for getting people to think about different creative art work And I know the city recently went through an effort to improve its signage on its primary entrances In the bond funding, how can the funds be used for signage, or even art work on campus as part of the facilities? How does that work? – We actually hae a signage project that’s currently in design now We’re redoing some of the monument signs, and that design is to include smoke-free campus, and some other text that are gonna be added to those signs And we know signage plays an important role as far as appearance and directional And so in the newer projects, we are paying close attention to the signs And you’ll see some changes, some difference in the signage moving forward A little bit more graphic, a little bit more excited planned in future projects – [Uduak] That’s great I guess I’m thinking of that big giant Go Beach lettering at Long Beach State when you come in on the traffic circle Now when you’re driving down the 710, there’s a big Long Beach sign or block letters, it would be great to have at LBCC block letters like that somewhere on both campuses It’s art work, but it’s facilities – We can take a look at it, and possibly get with Dr. Scott and the academic side We’ve got some talented art students, and that may be a chance to incorporate some of their talent into developing some type of signage for the college – [Uduak] Yeah, that would be great to have students add their creativity to it, and maybe have a art competition and the winner gets to be created And we give him the technical specs Call these specs, come up with it, and we’ll make it happen Thank you Walter for the presentation, I appreciate it – You’re welcome, thank you – Thank you Trustee Ntuk Anybody else? Walter, thank you very much for joining us this evening Good job on your presentation Now we will move on to section five on the agenda, this is Board of Trustees And item 5.1, resolution Framework for reconciliation and support of the black community This is an action item The recommended action, it is recommended that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 0624201, framework for reconciliation

in support of the black community as submitted And for this, I will defer to Trustee Ntuk, who initiated that this item be agendized Trustee Ntuk, go ahead and take it away – [Uduak] Yeah, thank you President Malauulu Thank you for everyone who helped put this together It is an incredibly difficult time We had so many speakers during public comment that weighed in that we are experiencing the dual pandemic of Coronavirus and institutional racism, and it’s really a remarkable confluence of two events coming together And it’s so upsetting, and outraging, and disappointing to, it had to be the murder of George Floyd to get us talking about this, to get us working on it, to bring focus to it There’s been many people that spoken about the power of his life being so much more impactful after he’s gone, versus when he lived It’s unfortunate to even think of it in that way Protests and outrage, and social media, and news articles It’s important to me that we say black lives matter, we say that affirmatively, that we recognize that we exist here on campus, that there is an anti-black culture Some speakers spoke about that, I personally experienced it, as well as a student And as a trustee, that we have come a long way We have programs, but everything we’ve done is not enough And it’s not a time for us to be tone deaf and point to awards on a wall and say that we’re better than most I mean, this is a common phenomenon across the entire state, and the entire country But we’re in a unique time that we can actually do something fundamental to change it And so I want to thank trustee Baxter for helping to bring this forward Folks may not be aware that she’s on the CCJ Board, and we worked together in reviewing and drafting the resolution But this is also, I think, the work of folks in the city When you look at the council unanimously adopted this already at the city level And you look at the problem that we have, and we recognize there’s a problem, and we’ve put out statements Thanks Lou Anne Bynum for her statement that she put out I wanna thank the Long Beach City College Faculty Association, they almost immediately came out with a Black Lives Matter resolution from the association that was sent over, that is incorporating this resolution That we acknowledge we have a problem, that there has been an injustice, that we have not reached the mountain top Martin Luther King did not solve racism in 1965 with the Civil Rights Act And there’s many people who may want to dilute the situation and talk about other groups Yes, other people have problems, but if you look at the data, we have it the worst, and have always had it the worst It wasn’t ’til I got on the Board that we even officially recognized Black History Month, and started to have, looking at the data and pointing out that black students on campus perform the lowest in success in GPA and transfers And it’s not one person, it’s the whole system And if you wanna change the system, you have to look at systemic changes You have to rise to the moment and do things that are bold, and things that are different Otherwise, we’ll never get change And so the resolution tonight puts us as an institution on the record of recognizing and proclaiming Black Lives Matter, but it also brings us in alignment with a larger community The framework for reconciliation is an African-based approach It comes from South Africa, from the truth and reconciliation commission after Apartheid that took Nelson Mandela from a jail cell and put him in the presidency It took testimony of people talking about atrocities, of protestors openly being shot at by police, and openly being run over by police bulldozers and vehicles

That was the police state of Apartheid And you say, how do you rebuild a community? How do you move past those abuses? And how do you unify to have a functional democracy and a functional society? They have shown us a pathway, and this has been used in global conflict resolution in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and Australia Other places around the world to deal with these systemic, long-term, unaddressed inequities And so there’s four pieces of it It’s acknowledging that there’s a problem, it’s listening to those people impacted, and it’s authentically listening So the voices you hear, the experiences that are shared are taken at face value, and it’s not blaming, shaming, or judging people, but it’s about recognizing the problem exists amongst us, and every day, regular people who are here on campus experience We heard that throughout not just public comment, I think some of the other presentations we had tonight, that it is amongst us That the cancer is here at Long Beach City College, and we need to deal with it And then it’s convening So taking the listening and putting it into a process with stakeholders to come up with a tangible action plan Even looking at the solutions, if you don’t bring everybody to the table to look at the solutions, you’re not gonna get the best solution, right? And talking about diversity as our strength, is when we have the diversity of voices put together for problem solving And then finally, it’s a catalyst, it’s an action plan What can we do now? What can we do next month? What can we do in six months to fundamentally shift the system? I mean, from the research that was shared from Dr. Hund, focusing on folks who will have it the worst, that raises the average for everybody else That improves the academic learning for everyone else This is not a situation or a net sum game, if black students have it better, then the white students have it worse That is the wrong mindset to approach this But there is real harm, has continued to be done I’ve heard from faculty, from staff, from students, from black male students feel like they are harassed and targeted on campus, have unnecessary barriers to graduate, to come to class It’s not individual personality It’s not a single person, it’s all of us have a role, whether we’re aware or not, implicitly or explicitly in the process So we have a framework, we’ve done work We have the partnership with USC to raise an equity center We’ve done training with CCG already We’ve went and made anti-racist syllabi already But everything we’ve done to date is not enough We have to do more There is no other time but the present It’s always, if not when, if not who, right? It’s us, and it’s now There’s no one else who’s gonna do it for us And so it’s gonna lead to a lot of difficult conversations It’s gonna take people wrapping their mind around that this is real The people you know and see every day experience hostility and unwelcome experiences for no reason No matter what our education is on campus, if you’re a faculty or not, if you have a bachelor’s degree or not, you deserve to be treated with respect You deserve to have dignity in the workplace Everybody in the community relies on Long Beach City College We talk about being the equity epicenter It doesn’t matter if you speak English, if you’re undocumented, or whatever the situation We have to serve everybody, and it starts with the black community, because we are the largest educator of black people in the city We have more black students in higher education at Long Beach City College than Long Beach State If we can’t get it right, that means folks are not transferring, they’re not getting the AAs they need They’re not getting certificates We done enough research All the data shows 9805 is where the highest level of people with no college We need to issue enough AA degrees, otherwise our community fails, our tax base fails, our revenues, that’s all our public institutions fail if we don’t include everyone in the economic process We don’t have equitable access to education That is the great equalizer if you can get access, if you can get in, if you can finish your degree All the research, if you make $1 million more in lifetime earning capacity, it’s only if you finish your degree, not because you took six units, or 60 units,

or 200 units at Long Beach City College and never graduated That doesn’t get you the extra earning, it’s that baccalaureate degree, right? And we have the ability to do that uniquely than anyone else And the city, and the county, the state legislature can’t do this, it’s us So can I just ask for your support tonight I also ask and wanna hear from our student trustee, and maybe our new ASP president, Cesar What is your thoughts on this? How do we address this? Is this perfect, is this the solution, the panacea? No But this is a process This is a process to get us to an end goal to address the issue in a meaningful, fundamental, systemic way So Open up the floor to my colleague – President Malauulu If I could say something? – [Sunny] Chair, point of order, don’t we need a motion for discussion? – [Vivian] Yes, you’re right Trustee Zia – [Sunny] I make the motion – [Vivian] I defer this to Trustee Ntuk to introduce and his (muffled speaking) took on a lot of different roads there But absolutely, we do need a motion and a second- – [Sunny] I’ll make the motion – [Uduak] So moved – [Vivian] Okay, Trustee Zia made the motion Trustee Ntuk, would you like to make the second? – [Uduak] Second – [Vivian] All right We have a motion and a second on the floor Any discussion on the item? And Trustee Baxter – Yes, thank you President Malauulu First of all, I wanna praise Vice President Ntuk, because as soon as he joined the reconciliation committee, I volunteered to help him, not serve on the committee, to help him And the reason is, I’ve been a member of the CCEJ Board for 25 years We’ve done a lot to end bias, bigotry, and racism, but here’s the problem I’ve observed racism, just like Vice President Ntuk said, on campus, in our community, but I didn’t do anything about it The only thing I did was threaten a bank who would not cash a check of an African American student, that I signed that check and I said, “You ever do that again, “I’m moving all the money out of your bank, my millions.” Anyway, so I think what we’re doing is so important, and we need to formalize and really take procedures as Vice President Ntuk has pointed out to try to remove racism from our campus, and consequently the community So I support him 100% – [Vivian] Thank you Trustee Baxter Would any of my other colleagues like to weigh in on this? – [Doug] Yeah, can you see me? – Yes, Trustee Otto, I can see you now – I’m having a lot of technical problems with the computer, but yeah I not only support this, but I too wanna congratulate Trustee Ntuk for taking the lead on this I’ve been around for a long time, and was a participant way back when when Martin Luther King was doing his work in the 60s, and I actually worked for the Southern Christian Leadership Conference But it’s impossible to ignore what hasn’t happened I’m encouraged by the Me Too movement that grew up after the Hollywood producer made the front page of the newspapers And it’s a movement that got going, and I think it’s changed the world I think things that were tolerated before are not tolerated or even considered now, and I feel the same way about this I feel that people are saying, “Hey, wait a minute “It hasn’t gotten better “We gotta do something about this.” And the four pronged approach, I think is good, and I’m cautiously optimistic that things can be set in motion that will in fact change things And I think, quite frankly, part of is just the demographics that people are saying, “Hey, wait a minute “I not only have a voice, but I have a lot of people “that are like me that feel the same way that I do.” So I see this as a moment in history I think that we should embrace this, I think that we should think thoughtfully about it,

and meet together under this plan of reconciliation, and move forward The therefore, of this resolution, the only word that’s missing is trustees, because I think the trustees also have to be a part of this Now, obviously it would pass on the resolution We are gonna be trustees, and we are gonna be a part of this But still, I think everybody’s gotta make a commitment Everybody’s gotta say, “You know what? “This is something that cannot be ignored at this point “This is something that we can’t just give lip service to.” And so I am very supportive and happy to vote for this motion – [Vivian] Thank you Trustee Otto Trustee Zia, would you like to weigh in on this? – [Sunny] Hello, can you hear me? – [Vivian] Yes – [Sunny] Sorry, I’m having volume issues Yes, this is a wonderful opportunity for us to sunshine Some of the things that we could do better, more, different This is something that I’ve been working on since I got on the Board in 2014 While it’s good to have a resolution, I think it doesn’t go far enough I think we need to have perhaps one of the public comment, folks who spoke on the public comment suggested, maybe we need to have a policy that will really look at and examine our hiring, our contracting How it’s economically affecting our disproportionately impacted communities, internally and externally I think we need to go beyond that, and I applaud the effort I also think we need to really expand on it, and put in some meaningful steps that will really have an end goal, and we can measure it And we can go back and say, look, how are we doing? No, I’m just tired of seeing these statistics come before us with our hiring It’s just absolutely dismal It’s not appropriate We need to acknowledge that black lives matter, and we need to stand up for it, but what are we gonna do about it? What are we gonna do that is going to impact the lives of black lives? Their economically impacted, and disproportionately, and they’re the ones at the frontlines with COVID I think it will be very meaningful for us to really flush out and unpack what we could do in a tangible way Perhaps we can have an Ad Hoc Committee, and I’d love to serve on that committee, and work with my fellow colleagues to come up with a sustainable way where we can really monitor this And going forward, and make sure it’s being sustainable, and it’s being watched, and that we actually hold ourselves to account, and our institution – Thank you Trustee Zia Trustee Ntuk, I also would like to commend you on taking leadership of this item And I’ve read this resolution in its entirety, and I’m really happy with how thorough it is I’m really happy I don’t know who authored it, or how many, who was all on your team that authored it But I’m very pleased with the content of it The fact that you discussed not only the Long Beach City Council, but you talked about foreign countries, and you brought in Nelson Mandela I mean, I just think it’s a really well-written resolution, that I’m very proud to support A couple of weeks ago, I posted a personal reflection on my personal social media account in which I talked about some experiences that I had with racism I am not African American, full disclosure I was born in Honduras, but my stepfather is African American I was adopted by a black man, raised by a black man, in a black neighborhood and attended black schools, and I saw racism, and I actually experienced a little bit of reverse racism where perhaps there was a group of my friends, and my friends got in trouble, but I didn’t I knew then that that was wrong, but I was too young, and I couldn’t articulate what it was

But in hindsight, those experiences have always stayed with me And I think that’s one of the reasons why I was able to connect with a lot of my students, whether they were African American or not, because I saw the systemic racism that they face in classrooms, in Los Angeles, here, throughout Long Beach City College And that’s another thing that your resolution And I’m sorry, I feel like I’m getting a little emotional, because this is the type of change that we all want, but so few people are willing to stick their necks out to do And you talked about some of the statistics of the success of our African American students, and that’s unacceptable I agree with Trustee Zia, that is unacceptable Those numbers are not good enough And no matter how great our faculty is, and how great our programs are, they are a failure if our statistics for one segment of our population are so low Unless all segments of our student population are equitable, then our programs fail And what Trustee Otto said about adding the word trustees, I agree with you Trustee Otto, and I know our Superintendent-President Lou Anne Bynum will attest to this, that I had a conversation with her, because shortly after the faculty issued a statement supporting black lives, she also issued a statement supporting black lives, and I felt like that statement should have been joined from the Board and her And I really think that we need to make more of a united front against this type of inequality, inequity, systemic racism And I’d like to see a lot more of that moving forward So Trustee Ntuk, I applaud you, I’m very proud of you I’m very grateful for the guests who submitted comments, and I hope that this means something I hope that this doesn’t end up being just a piece of paper And I hope it doesn’t end up being just something that we revisit annually I hope that it’s something that we can all internalize, and I hope it’s something that we can really, just really make it a part of the fabric of our institution, so that there’s never any doubt or never any question So we do have a motion and a second on the floor Is there any additional discussion before we take a vote? – [Uduak] Can I say one last swing? – [Vivian] Yes – [Uduak] In response Yes, I wanna thank everybody for their comments and sharing their perspectives And just to answer, and also thank Trustee Baxter and I worked with Dr. Muñoz on putting this together He’s an incredible leader on our campus, and equity champion And when he needed to get something done, Dr. Muñoz knows how to get it done So he was very helpful in bringing this together quickly enough that we could get it on the Board agenda about a week and a half ago While this is a resolution, and it has some important elements, it talks explicitly about the Native American connection Many people don’t realize, where did all the Native Americans go? They integrated many times into the black community Many times Native Americans were forced from their homeland, into low income areas, or areas that were redlined, and that was the only place black people could live And here in Long Beach, we think that the historical context of Central Long Beach, why did all the black people live in Central Long Beach? ‘Cause it was redlined It was the only place they were allowed to buy property and to live I represent parts of Bixby Knolls was green-lined, explicitly said on the deeds You could not sell your property to a black, Latino, a Jew, and it’s still on people’s deeds It’s crazy, it’s still there But this is the history of systemic racism And it’s the connection to other marginalized communities have been impacted by this And the other thing is COVID in Long Beach 12% of the population is black, 22% of the deaths are African American Nearly double the rate And talk about shining a light on systemic racism, why do people have underlying health conditions more in the black community? Research shows there’s no biological different in race It doesn’t exist It’s a social construct But when you have the least income, when you don’t have healthcare, when you don’t have access to quality schools You live in the food desert Add all of those things up, and you’re gonna have diabetes and high blood pressure, and stressed out

And black women will have the highest infant mortality rate, not just in Long Beach but in L.A County and across the state of California All those stressors add up Nobody wants to be poor Being poor is not fun, but it’s part of the system So we tried to incorporate that into the resolution Last two things, three things I’ll say here, when we had our Black History Month celebration, and really looked at the data last February, invited the African American community I invited black community leaders to come last 2019 I did not invite people to come to 2020, because there was, a number of people were offended by the way we spoke about the black community, the way we gave our presentation Someone wanting to explain to them that they needed to learn about what redlining was, ’cause they had just figured it out And didn’t realize that NWACP in Long Beach got started in the 1960s because of redlining battles Our level of consciousness was not there, and I honestly didn’t wanna invite people back this year and say, “Hey, come back for a second helping, “unconscious communications.” So we still had it, it was great, it was good, but I heard a number of backlash from that experience we had, just at our own Board And also, I met with a number of black faculty and staff leading up to this Our president’s task force on equity and diversity is a joke, people are telling me, that’s not serious I hear the message of, “We don’t want this to be an empty gesture.” And we have to be accountable As a Board, our own employee is the Superintendent-President Lou Anne, this is your performance evaluation item, to get this done and make sure it moves forward But the calls for doing more? This ain’t the only item on the agenda tonight This ain’t the only day we’re gonna talk about this There is gonna be ample time to do more and show really all your words and perspectives Action is louder than words But this framework is a process for us to get to action, to have policy changes, to have staffing changes, right? That will come out of this process, and will come back to the Board So I just wanna say that And the last thing is, I got a call from CCJ today They’re ready to help us host listening sessions, and facilitate for student groups, for staff groups, for management, and then partner with the city and have a joint one ‘Cause what we do impacts beyond our campus founders And so I just wanna close that and ask for everyone’s support in this vote – Thank you very much I have a question for Board Secretary Jackie Hann Jackie, if we approve this resolution today with an amendment of adding trustees to the language, is that possible since it wasn’t included on the agenda that was released? – It’s possible We’ll make that amendment, you’ll pass it with the amendment with the added language But you just need to tell me where you, assuming it into each paragraph, or whereas, or how you would like it – Is that something that we explicitly have to micromanage, or could we just do that just – [Vivian] I can amend my motion to add that, and then if there’s a second, we can just vote on it – Okay That’s great Trustee Zia, thank you, but Jackie is it possible that we can approve the resolution with an understanding that the team who wrote it will also incorporate trustees into the resolution, if everybody’s okay with that? – Yes, what I’ll do is just include the amendment with directions of the staff who– – [Uduak] President Malauulu – [Vivian] Yes – [Uduak] One item Trustee Otto brought up, in the Therefore It be Resolved section, I guess it depends on what is the definition of is Is participatory governance leaders, does that include trustees? Are we not participatory governance leaders? – That’s actually going into 5.2 with the participation in governance policy too, so good question – And your title on your resolution is the Resolution of the Board of Trustees of the Long Beach Community College District on the Framework for Reconciliation

in Support of the Black Community So pretty much you are the leading ship on this, without having it inserted into the paragraphs And then your final is there now be it resolved, the Board of Trustees at Long Beach – [Ginny] Yeah – My I ask a question about this Trustee Ntuk, and other Trustees Is the intent to put Trustees in the be it resolved so that there’s more action on the part of the trustees to work with the constituent groups, and those other group? – That’d be a good idea – I speak to what my intention was – [Lou Anne] Okay – Okay And that was that it seemed to me that everybody’s called out except the trustees, and I get what everybody has been saying, but if we’re part of participatory governance leaders, and by the way, in the new administrative regulations for that, I’m not sure that we’re mentioned I don’t think so, I don’t recall it when I read it But we can just say, “Long Beach City College’s participatory governance leaders, “including trustees, faculty, and blah, blah, blah.” I just wanted the name in there, and I get that we’re gonna pass it and all that stuff But it would be nice to say that we’re a part of this as well, that was what my intention was – That’s okay with me – It’s much clearer if you actually say it, than if you say, “Well, of course you’ve gotta be in there.” That was just my intention – Okay, so whatever is the pleasure of the Board, Trustee Zia, it’s your motion, so however you wanna handle that – Yeah, I’m okay amending it – [Uduak] And I’m okay on the second of amending to add to word trustee at the whereas, at the bottom – Okay, all right, sounds good We have a motion and a second at amended Jackie, if you would take a roll call vote please – One second, I just wanna clarify, it’s going to go next to the last whereas, the Long Beach Community College District Board of Trustees – No, it’s under the therefore – [Jackie] Okay – Between leaders and faculty – Okay, thank you – Be resolved, yeah Yes And just put including trustees – Participatory governance leaders, including – I just want to put in my notes, here – [Doug] Including trustees – Okay, we can call for the vote now Virginia Baxter – Aye – Jena Jimenez – Aye – Virginia Baxter? I’m saying it again – Aye – Vivian Malauulu – Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – Aye – And Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries, thank you very much Item 5.2 on the agenda is the revised administrative regulation 2006, participation in governance This is an information item only I invite the public to click on the attachment on Board Docs to the agenda that describes in more detail, and show an example of the policy The actual policy Item 5.3 on the agenda is a discussion action item This is the evaluation of the Long Beach Police Department contract and campus security The recommended action, it is recommended that the Board of Trustees re-evaluate police contracts, and identify new methods of safety to end police brutality The Board will discuss and may make recommendations to staff of desired changes to the current practices And I will open this up to whatever is the pleasure of the Board – [Uduak] President Malauula? – [Vivian] Yes, Trustee Ntuk? – [Uduak] Hey, thank you Overwhelming response for protests, and the outrage And we talked about George Floyed earlier While that was in Minneapolis, Minnesota, our community has not been free of having those types of experiences here There is a push, so like, what are we doing? Reevaluating it from top to bottom, what are we doing and why are we doing it? And I just wanted to share a story I grew up in Long Beach, I used to play football here, and I always heard about Ron Settles

In 1991, or sorry, 1981, I’m sorry He was a football player at Long Beach State that going through Signal Hill ended up getting arrested and allegedly committed suicide in the jail Now this is right by our PCC Campus, while it was technically another city, and a different police department That created such an uproar To me, growing up, I was always told, “Don’t go to Signal Hill “Don’t drive through Signal Hill.” And I remember as a kid riding my bike, I would never go up Cherry through Signal Hill I’d always drive right around Even when I was driving, I wouldn’t drive through Signal Hill, because of that traumatic experience It’s kind of crazy to read the story now There was Johnnie Cochran, that came and represented him and his family And ultimately they found that he was killed by a choke hold It wasn’t a hanging, it wasn’t a suicide That happened at our community 30 plus years ago But those stories permeate the black community It’s those uncomfortable conversations that parents have with their kids, because events like that happen And so well, was there ever really accountability? Did that football player have to lose his life? He was a college student, I think maybe 18, 19 years old We do have a Long Beach PD contract, we do have officers with lethal force on campus, and we’re a community college We’re not a prison, we’re not a federal institution People have books and scooters Why can’t we just call 911 when there’s something that needs a lethal force response? Why do we have to have officers all the time? Is that the only way that we can keep the campus safe? I heard from faculty members for and against it Please reevaluate, look at doing something different And someone had shared the experience of being stalked on campus, and fearful And rightfully so having extra security But are we in the business of providing individual security for some, versus the broader security for all? Is there another model or approach? I think so We talked about doing more, this is the opportunity to do more It was ironic when, talking about transparency and sunshine, I did not know I had never seen the contract before this The three contract (muffled speaking), the amendments I thought we were spending like $800,000 a year I didn’t know we were spending $3.4 million a year I never looked at the scope of work of the services provided We’re paying for 19 handheld radios that help people jump start their car, and parking enforcement, and impounding bicycles Do we really need to spend money on armed security that do those kind of activities? I would argue no Do we not wanna have any security on campus at all? No But this is a legacy contract Actually looking at the terms, it looks to expire anyway later this year But this is an opportunity for us to reimagine, reevaluate We talk about systems change, we talk about doing something different This is the hard conversation and the test of what are we gonna do? What are we gonna do about this? And I agendized this, and it has a recommendation to reevaluate the contracts and identify new methods, and make recommendations I’d like to make that motion, and then for us to have the conversation if there is a second – [Vivian] Okay, we have a motion on the floor Is there a second? – [Ginny] Second – [Vivian] Okay, we’ve got a motion by Trustee Ntuk, second by Trustee Baxter We will open this up for discussion – Trustee Malauulu, or President Malauulu, if I can just give some context to this, because I was around 20 years ago

We had our own police force, and they wanted to be armed And Jan Kehoe, who was president of the college at that time, was concerned that if we had a police force, and I believe Cal State Long Beach has its own police, then if someone shot somebody, it would be huge liability And so a contract proposal went out to the Long Beach PD, and also to the L.A. County Sheriffs, and the college And I was not on the Board at this time, but I was here, went with the Long Beach PD because of that reason And I am a person who respects the police, but I also know that they are not infallible I’m gonna bring up an incident that I’m ashamed to say, I misjudged Trustee Zia, when she was first on the Board A student that both she and I knew, African American male, was roughed up by the police Broke his glasses, and he was actually arrested because he was on campus He wasn’t doing anything wrong And she reacted, now what I think appropriately, objecting and actually tried to intervene And I said, “You shouldn’t intervene with the police “The police are here “The police know better.” And I let that poor man go to jail, and didn’t express my concern about it I would react differently today, so it’s only taken me, what, six years So I believe in the police, but I also believe that this should be evaluated, it should be considered But I certainly do not want a private police force operating at Long Beach City College I could tell you other stories too, but they get wilder – [Vivian] Thank you, Trustee Baxter Trustee Otto? You’re on mute Trustee Otto Doug, you’re still mute, Doug Can you hear us? You still have it on mute – [Doug] Is it off now? – [Vivian] Yes, there you go – All right So I not only remember the incident that you described Ginny, but I remember the police force that we had before the Long Beach Police came here, and what an utter disaster they were And the fact that they wanted to get guns, and Jan Kehoe, the president, was adamantly apposed to that There were members of that police force I didn’t think should have guns under any circumstances And it’s the difficulty of getting the right solution to what an issue is The reason I seconded this motion was because I think that there’s room for improvement, but I am a fan police in general I think they’ve served a valid, they do a valid job on campuses And yet, what’s happened in policing in the last 20 years is it’s become so expensive that you can hardly afford to do it And I don’t know, Lou Anne, if you know but I suspect that in the last five to seven years, the cost of the police department, the Long Beach Police Department for Long Beach City College has gone up a lot, maybe doubled And so this is an opportunity to sit down with the police, and people on campus and say, “So what do we need? “What do we want? “What do you do?” And to get a better understanding of it I think that we can do that, and it would be a very constructive conversation, because there are things I mean, I know a professor on campus today who is scared to death because she had a student stalking her, and she had to be escorted out to her car every night by a police officer, and things like that do come up And so I see this as an opportunity to say, “Wait a minute “Let’s look at this.” Let’s look at it not only because it’s the right thing to do at this moment it time at Long Beach City College, you might be able to save some money, which we can certainly use this time as well

But it would, I think, put us in a better position to work with the police That’s why I seconded this, and why I’d like to see it move forward – [Vivian] Thank you Trustee Otto Trustee Zia, would you like to weigh in on this? – I’ll go after you, Trustee Malauulu, if you’d like to speak – Sure Normally the Chair goes last in Board meetings, but I don’t mind Once again I would like to congratulate and commend Trustee Ntuk for bringing forth very timely, yet difficult issues This is not easy at all to discuss the contract that we have with police The contract will be expiring in a couple of months, and we’ve seen here in Long Beach protests, and we’ve seen a lot of activity across the country So I definitely do think that we as elected officials have a responsibility to the public that we serve to address their concerns And I think that we would be remiss to ignore them I have received calls on this issue, I actually made a couple of calls about this issue I have family and friends who are in law enforcement And I think the overall consensus is that change is necessary That some type of, perhaps reform is not the right word, but some type of reformatting, or reevaluating of the services that are provided, and the type of leadership that is offered are necessary I’m not necessarily in favor of defunding the police, so to speak, I know that that’s been a major catchphrase in the last few weeks I think that for the most part, the police do a good job It is unfortunate, just like in teaching For the most part, most teachers do a good job, but then you get one or two teachers who do a bad job, and then it gives the rest of the teaching force a bad name I feel that the same is true in policing For the most part, most officers that, I believe that they do their job, and they do their job well But then you’ll get one or two police officers that will abuse their power, or will not do their job serving and protecting the public, and then it gives the rest of them a bad name And that’s what we’re trying to protect this institution from doing And the reason why I mention that as elected officials, we have a responsibility to the public, is because we wouldn’t even be having this discussion if it wasn’t for the public If it wasn’t for people taking to the streets, and if it wasn’t for people protesting right now, and for, I believe it was 16 straight days across the country to end police brutality And to end just kind of looking the other way, and sweeping things under the rug, we wouldn’t even be having this discussion So we as elected officials have that responsibility, and if we didn’t, then we should be recalled, and people should be protesting us if we’re ignoring their needs So Trustee Ntuk, I commend you for tackling the very difficult issues, and I do think that the district does need to reevaluate the contract, definitely And I think that the district also needs to partner with the LBPD to design a contract that really benefits our community Our students, our faculty, our neighbors, the businesses and residents The story that you shared actually happens all the time, and the Pacific Coast Campus is in my trustee area There have been instances there right across the street from the campus, at King Park, at the shopping center, at Chitek field So police activity in that area of the community, I know that they’re building relationships there, and I know that those relationships do need to be addressed So I hope that the district and the police department can sit down at the table and can really evaluate and design a contract that both answers the call of duty for police officers, but also has the best interest of the community applying, that is respectful and sensitive, willing to listen and willing to work together So those are my thoughts on that And Trustee Zia, you wanted to make some comments – [Sunny] Yes, thank you And thank you Trustee Baxter for reminding me of my PTSD situation Nobody stood up for that gentleman who was harmless,

who was a senior citizen with a cane, visually impaired I’m still upset about it And in fact, I ended up in the front page of the Press Telegram, because some members of this Board went to the press and leaked that information, the draft report the police officer had And that’s okay I stood up for that student, former student, community member because it was the right thing to do And I will continue to stand up for any student, any community member that is marginalized I’ve been involved in the Black Lives movement before it was a cause Since Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, countless others who don’t have the notoriety, that others who have been videoed have gotten I’m very passionate about this cause This is something that I fought for years In fact, what gives me solace for the George Floyd case is that the attorney general who was in charge, who I happened to work with on this issue for 13 years is a former congressmen, Keith Ellison, and now the attorney general in Minnesota, is responsible for prosecuting the man who killed George Floyd And I’m happy it’s in his hands, ’cause I know he’ll bring justice So this is a huge issue for me I have fought very hard, when I was the only person fighting for this issue One of my constituents, Dante Jordan, was shot accidentally I fought against just the blue code of silence for years I don’t agree with it But I feel that there has been so much that has been done When that incident happened in 2014, all I did was ask, “Why is this man being kicked off the campus?” It was three officers that were brought on him Now, I deescalated the situation, and I gave the gentleman a ride, because he didn’t have a vehicle To this day, it weighs heavy on my conscience that he was put in jail, his medication not given to him, his glasses broken His specialized for his vision impaired glasses was broken, and his cane taken away from him That is what I was told I haven’t personally fact-checked that, but that’s based on what I was told, and this complaint that was filed with the Citizens Police Complaint Commission Now having said that, that day I learned a lot I learned that our previous administration didn’t equip the police officer right It was on us It was something that I wasn’t aware of And the first person who contacted me and reached out to me was the head of the Police Officer Association, and wanted to talk this through And I am so proud since six years ago, we’ve made tremendous strides We’ve had bomb threats on campus, we’ve had active shooting issues around campus, gang shooting We had a sexual assault on campus that I had to wake up and see on the news I had to call the administrator at the time to help make me understand what’s going on, and I just don’t know what we would have done without our police officers I don’t know how we can secure our campus Faculty for years have consistently expressed the lack of safety that they felt And because we’ve brought on Lieutenant Martinez, and the great reforms he’s made, and his predecessor, Commander Lieberman now I’m so much happier, six years from that incident And I think it’s important for us to build accountability, absolutely I think we should have a thoughtful discussion I don’t think it’s appropriate I think it’s curious that this item was agendized when our lieutenant is out of town I think he needs to have a seat at the table I think our respected people from the police department need to have a seat at the table Earlier on, on what, item 5.1, Trustee Ntuk, I really appreciate you mentioning this, that we need to bring everybody to the table

Do have everyone at the table right now for this discussion? I think we need to examine and practice what we preach, ’cause it would be awfully hypocritical of me to be talking about Black Lives Matter, and what matters, without really analyzing and seeing what are some of the specific issues, specific policies we can enacted, rather than writ large demonizing and terminating an entire police department’s contract Now, as far as the value proposition goes, I know that it was brought up about three and a half million dollars, let’s just assume, it’s 3.4 million Three and a half million dollars over the past 20 years That equates to $175,000 a year We have a legal council contract right now that’s going from $20,000 a to $200,000 It’s increasing by 10 folds And these for five officers, that amounts to $35,000 per officer to keep us safe, and they’ve kept us safe, to a point that the faculty are finally feeling safe and secure, and our students So while I’m all about Black Lives Matter, and I will fight ’til my dying breath for it, because it is truly an important cause, and something that I stand for and will always support, I think we need to be very, very methodical, deliberative, and thoughtful about what we do, and not unilaterally pull a contract, with all the stakeholders at the table for this very important discussion It’s not fair to the officers who have taken care of us while we needed them the most And in the days of active shooters across college campuses, I understand the omnipresence of COVID right now But if you recall before, college campuses and schools everywhere are experiencing active shooting situations And they’re the ones who are preparing us Who’s gonna be able to protect us? Officers who are not sworn, without a gun? I won’t be able to support that So I absolutely support continuing this item, having a meaningful discussion, and really flushing out and unpacking, what are some of the substantive policies we can put in place? Perhaps we need to go after those bad actors, those police officers who are acting in bad faith, and giving the rest of the department a bad name Maybe we can examine going after their pension Maybe we’ll get those kind of meaningful issues, and maybe we can look at not having the general fund be allocated for that I don’t know We need to examine it in detail so that it’s really meaningful, not just a gesture That’s all I have – [Jena] President Malauulu, if I could please say something? – Yes absolutely Jena, go right ahead – [Jena] Thank you I do see everyone’s point of view And I was there walking on campus, you see the police officers And for some, it makes you feel safe But for some, it makes you feel intimidated And me myself, I don’t know, it’s like an instant reaction You see that black and white car and you just immediately feel intimidated, and you feel like you have to stand a little taller Can’t look in the eye And it’s definitely an interesting experience, but even so, having that security is so important And as a woman, I just feel very safe when I know that there is security or something on campus that is within reach, you know, with as minimal distance that can help if any woman (muffled speaking) in a situation That goes for men as well There’s all kinds of situations that might happen And so I think having a detailed discussion about what can be provided on the security end is important I don’t think that leaning on extremes can actually solve problems I think compromising is definitely more of a better approach So like Trustee Zia said, we have to evaluate more deeply the situation and look at the details before (muffled speaking) extremes for one or the other, because there are pros and cons to either side of having police officers on campus, and not having police officers on campus

So I do think that, it just needs to be evaluated deeply And so that’s all I have to say, thank you – [Sunny] Chair Malauulu, I’m so sorry I failed to mention one thing that I think has seminal if I may? – Yes, absolutely – [Sunny] Thank you I just wanted to share that tonight, since the Board meeting began, I had about 50 protestors showing up in front of my home and asking me to terminate the contract I’m a person that supports Black Lives Matter, and I told them, “I support you.” But I need to understand better and listen to see what really is what we can do, rather than having a reflexive knee-jerk reaction But I gotta tell you, I don’t think to show up in front of people’s homes? My entire neighborhood was rattled when bullhorns and speakerphones, I don’t know who let them know where I live, but everybody was out It’s intimidating somewhat, or threatening And I’m someone who is supportive of this cause I take care of my elderly parents who live with me, and they’re all rattled My dad is still shaking And he has a condition It bothers me that we have, while I’m emotional about it myself, I am one of the people who is supportive of the cause But to come to people’s home and threaten them, and try to terrorize them with words? It’s not acceptable It’s not acceptable We can have a more logical, sensible conversation with cooler heads rather than yelling at each other ‘Cause in the absence of dialogue, what is left? It’s violence And not the path that I, I don’t choose But I wanted to share that, because I think it’s an important point that if we’re gonna do this, we need to really, really take a step back and look at this not from a black or white standpoint, but nuance And not terrorize people, or threaten people who are holding elected office to vote a certain way, or they’re gonna come back and try to threaten my family Now, that’s not acceptable folks It’s too extreme, and I won’t support If I’m gonna continued to be threatened this way, it jeopardizes the safety of my entire family It’s not acceptable, and it’s bad form to say the least – Thank you Trustee Zia Would anybody else like to weigh in on this matter? – [Uduak] I would – Yes, Trustee Ntuk – [Uduak] One, I just gotta pop the bubble here for Trustee Zia You can’t say you support Black Lives Matter and then attack black employees from the dais, attack black colleagues Personal attacks against them and their family, and say you support Black Lives Matter, ’cause that makes you a hypocrite And to pop your bubble, this is the problem You’re talking out of both sides of your mouth You’re for it, the recommendation is about reevaluating, it’s not about not having any security It’s not about turning it and saying, I don’t know whoever is at your house Calling people protestor, I mean terrorist, who are protesting We’re America Everybody has the First Amendment right to peacefully assemble and say what they want, with a bullhorn or not I’m listening to the circular logic that you’re talking through It makes no sense You can’t say you support Black Lives Matter, and then say the opposite And the goal here is to reevaluate That does not mean attacking employees’ retirement, that doesn’t mean not doing anything If things had changed, then people wouldn’t protest I spoke the other night at the city’s reconciliation session, listening session, on Monday night And these issues have not been addressed for centuries

And when issues go unaddressed, and we continue to dither and wait, and think it’s gonna be another day ’til we actually do something, that’s when people do vigilante justice That’s when people do extreme things, because we don’t act as an institution We have to act to restore public trust We have to act so that people don’t do extreme measures Looking at a three and a half million dollar contract, whether we cancel the whole thing, do half of it, do a third of it, whatever it ends up being, that is not extreme We’re a community college campus We can do creative things that the city, or the county sheriffs can’t do, because we’re a community college campus I appreciate student Trustee Jimenez’s perspective Yes, we do have a lot of women on campus, we need to make sure that women feel safe We have security available Can we call 911 when we need to? When there’s an extreme event? Can we have a program like Long Beach State, where they have trained students and electric vehicles driving people to their car on call? Standing out at night that don’t have lethal weapons, that don’t have fully expensive contracts? Yeah, we can do that That’s not crazy It happens at other campuses all over the place It happens at Long Beach State, down the street This is not something radical, right? But what is radical is to act as if the current state of affairs is fine That there really is security issues If you look at every year on our crime report, what is it? People breaking in vehicles, and stealing bikes Somebody broke into a car, and took someone’s phone No one’s getting shot, no one’s dying We don’t have rapes occurring every year on campus We have this hysteria of fear that doesn’t actually exist What if we didn’t have the police contract, and we called 991, right? They would still come on campus and respond We live in a civil society, in a functioning democracy Like there are services here in the city for emergency response Talking about the mindset change that we need to be in, this is the time now I just have a few questions I’d like to ask Dr. Muñoz We were at the laptop giveaway earlier this week, and he comes from a couple of other community colleges If he’s on the call and available, I don’t see, oh there he goes What are other ways that other community colleges are providing campus safety, that are not lethally armed officers? – I can’t speak to all the different colleges I can only speak to maybe some of the experiences that I’ve seen, and I know maybe Bob Rapoza can weigh in as well in terms of what other contracts look like But what I’ve seen is typically you, some colleges have contracted with different security firms to provide security They’re typically not armed At least some of the institutions that I’ve been at before, Rancho Santiago District and Rio Hondo District, they have contracts with public safety officers But they’re necessarily deputized police officers, and that’s something I’ve seen before But again, I don’t know specifically in terms of what that contract process looks like So again, I would probably defer to Bob Rapoza on that particular aspect – [Uduak] I guess, Dr Muñoz, what other ways to provide campus security is there? Besides lethally armed officers? Are there other ways? – I think to answer your question from my perspective, and I wanna just make sure, from what I’ve seen Like I said it’s true, the public safety officer model that I’m familiar with, and some institutions that I’ve been at Typically these are folks that, and I think you described that also with the folks that provide escort services at Long Beach State These are folks that have a strong presence on campus that assists with many of the things that you’re describing that are law enforcement, or LBPD assist with, right? You get locked out of your car, you need an escort from your building to your car, because you feel unsafe, or it’s evening There’s a fight on campus, and you need to have a presence of a security guard So that’s the campus safety officer model that I’m most familiar with, like I said, based on my experience But they’re not armed police officers,

they’re not deputized in that way So that’s what I’ve been most familiar with I hope I’m answering the question in terms of what you’re asking – [Uduak] I think it’s a good And I’m catching you off guard here This is the work that we need to do, is flesh through alternative models of what we can do The allegation that I agendized this when Officer Martinez was on vacation, as if I knew what his vacation schedule was As if he couldn’t Zoom call in if it was so important for Officer Martinez This has nothing to do with Officer Martinez I actually wish he was here, so we could talk to him But it’s just a spurious, unfounded claim to say this was about scheduling this when Officer Martinez was not gonna be at the meeting It distracts from the point But my understanding was Officer Spencen was supposed to be here tonight, and I don’t know if he’s on the call, or able to answer any questions, or if he was able to make it I don’t know, Lou Anne, if Officer Spencen made it – Yes, no he didn’t make it I know that he was out doing some calls, and in fact, I think he did communicate with Trustee Zia as to what she mentioned earlier Officer Martinez is gonna be back on the 30th, and if I can make a suggestion, I don’t know if you all want to consider The contract is actually scheduled to end September 30th This would be the time to really take a look at the contract language, at the particulars, and components of what’s in that contract There’s flexibility to be able to put new language in I know I was asked about lethal force and choke holds, and we have not any use of choke holds at either LAC or PCC And I know that Long Beach PD eliminated the use of choke holds about a week ago or so But to your point, Trustee Ntuk, I think it’s a good time to just take a look at all of that There’s an ability to put new policies in there, and new language And if that’s not satisfactory, then we can look at some other models But like Trustee Baxter had mentioned, I was here when we had public safety, and they were similar to what Dr. Muñoz just described And they escorted people, and they handled things that weren’t problematic That’s not to say it couldn’t happen now, and there’s probably plenty of funds out there I just think it’s time to point, revisit the contract, take a look at it, see what’s working, what isn’t working, and see how you all feel about that with the information that comes through – [Uduak] Thanks Lou Anne I had one other question On the termination of the contract, and the process I was gonna ask Board Council Ewing I know it’s on there, it’s a legal document, ironically signed by Tom Motyka, who was then the assistant city manager, he’s now the city manager, five years ago What is the process to actually terminate the contact? I think there’s a clause in there, I don’t know what it says – If I may, I think it’s a 60 day notice from the contract for Long Beach PD – [Uduak] I don’t know if Mr. Ewing is on the– – Yes, he is – I am So the underlying contract, it’s that certain agreement The original contract is contract number 99750.3 That’s the contract that I’ll be talking about There are a couple of amendments, but that contract at page four, section three, was entered into October 1st 2017, for a five year term, ending September 30th 2022 Now, pursuit to section three, it references section 18, which is the section that President-Superintendent Bynum mentioned, and that is the 60 day provision So pursuant of section 18 in the underlying contract, were the district interested in ending it, it would give 60 day notice

Just for example, the district could give notice on July 1st 2020, and the 60 days would end on September 1st 2020 That would be a way to trigger the termination mechanism for the 60 day provision But I do wanna stress that the amendments really pertain to the revision and the cost for services, for different materials, supplies, and wages that are adjusted by the city, pursuant to City Council action But the term of the agreement goes to 2022, and I wanna stress that to you and the Board – [Uduak] And so any new contract would have to ratified by the City Council and by the Board? – I imagine that Bob Rapoza has gone through this before with this contract What happens is the City Council takes action on new wages and salaries, typically on an annual basis And those are presented to an entity to which the police department provides services like Long Beach City College And that becomes an amendment So the short answer to your question is yes There is City Council action, and then it goes to the Long Beach City College for Board action So what you would expect to see coming up in September is further adjustments to the salaries and wages of the officers who are assigned to this particular contract And for example, with the implementation of the body cam, that’s an additional cost that made its way into an amendment You’ll probably see that in amendment one or two, and that ultimately comes to the Board for action and ratification – [Doug] Can I make I– – Yes, Trustee Otto? – Yeah, sure But to be clear, first of all, if we wanna look at the contract and make some decision about it, take a real look at it, we don’t have to do it by July 1st, or August 1st, or September 1st The 60 day notice, I presume, I haven’t read the contract carefully, but if we wanna terminate the contract, I believe we can give ’em 60 days notice and do that, is that correct, Mr. Ewing? – That is correct, Trustee Otto So it’s a five year term, it ends in 2022, so you have time, right? To do whatever you’re going to do in terms of evaluating it (muffled speaking) You can start the clock whenever you– (muffled speaking) – And by the way, the Long Beach Police Department was represented at this meeting tonight, because Rich Chambers, who is the president of the Police Officers Association made a statement He got to make a statement about this and that they were very interested in this, and talking to us about it So I wanna make sure that this isn’t coming out of a cloth here, the Police Department is aware of the fact that a lot of people are looking at these kinds of things And Superintendent-President Bynum, the $3.4 million, is that what it costs us annually now? Is that right? – Yes – Trustee said something, she divided the 34 by the number of years – Yes, we pay annually, and it comes out of two funds The general fund, and then part of the restricted funds from parking, which is allowable and permissible – I think there’s time, there’s interest, and everybody’s in good faith about this So I think that we don’t have to do it tonight We don’t have to do it next week There’s no deadline on this But I think the whole reason, if I’m gonna try and represent what Trustee Uduak did, is to raise this issue and see, what do we wanna do? And why, and people need seats at the table to do that I think you as a superintendent-president can start a process if we’re going to do that – I agree, Trustee Otto I have a question, and I know that Marlene isn’t here

I don’t know if Bob, if you’re able to respond to this Trustee Zia shared some interesting numbers, and I just wanna make sure that that’s accurate And if you don’t have this information off the top of your, within reach, I get it But she mentioned that the officers were paid approximately $30,000 per year? I remember seeing a contract for, I don’t know if it was our current Lieutenant, but a previous one I think it was in the vicinity of $300,000, that included some overtime? So I don’t know what Trustee Zia was referring to with the five officers, $30,000 I think that salary alone is tipping over $1 million, is that correct? – If I may, the total cost for the officers is more than $35,000 I think Trustee Zia misunderstood the total dollar amount as being over the course of the entire contract But the dollar amount that we’re talking about almost 3.5 million is the yearly amount So that includes the total cost of owning the contract, as well as the benefits and salaries for the officers – Okay, so I do remember seeing at least one salary line item, it was a little bit over $300,000 I don’t know if that’s for our current lieutenant, or a previous one, but I know that it was a pretty hefty sum, and that included a lot of overtime Is that correct? – I don’t know, President Malauulu, I’d have to check on that one – Okay Bob, it seems like you were gearing up to say something there? – If I could, if the Board is interested in a breakdown of the cost, on the attachments to Board Docs on item 5.3, amendment number two, that will actually give you a full breakdown at the very end – Yeah – That will show you a line item cost by Officer time, dispatcher time, overtime cost, cars, general equipment, body cams, technology like Mr. Ewing referred to So that is a detailed breakdown that the Board has at their fingertips if they’d like to look – Okay, I appreciate that, thank you And then the only other question that I just wanna bring up I know that there have been instances involving some of our students, or former students on campus Trustee Zia shared an experience she had when she had just been elected to the Board I remember reading about that before I even got on the Board, because I was a faculty member here And I remember some of those instances involved students who had previously been expelled, students who had threatened staff or faculty, and I think it’s important If we wanna push doing the right thing, we have to do the right thing all the time, and we have to paint an accurate picture So it’s not fair to say that (muffled speaking) A student was attacked I don’t think that’s really fair to say, any person who’s attacked is wrong But I think that we do need to paint, we have to show the entire picture, and I think that there are multiple issues, there’s a story there, and I don’t wanna mislead the public I don’t want the public to think that we are either hiding something, or we’re making something out of something that shouldn’t be I think we have to be fair and we have to be truthful As a faculty member, I remember receiving alerts and notices that there were threats on campus by a former student, or students So I felt protected knowing that there was police on campus I also think it’s important that we discuss the fact that we do live in an age with active shooters, and we do live in an age where these mass shootings occur So I think that it’s good that this is happening now I think it’s perfect timing, like Trustee Otto said The contract is coming up, it will be ending in a couple of months, and I think it gives us time to roll up our sleeves, check on the language, check the pulse of the community, and see what are the things that our campus really needs So Trustee Ntuk, if you don’t have anything additional to add to that, whatever is the pleasure of the Board – [Sunny] Chair Malauulu, may I speak as well? – [Vivian] Yes – [Sunny] Just to address a couple of points that were raised Just to be clear, I didn’t say anybody terrorized me They were verbally terrorizing us with threats, my family

So let’s just be clear I am fully supportive of what the crown jewel of our constitution, our First Amendment right, yet I’m not in favor of verbal threats and verbal terrorism in front of elected officials’ homes That’s one, number two, Chair Malauulu, I think you were talking about when you said attack, if you were referring to the incident that happened in 2014, I did not say anybody was attacked, and that’s far from the reality of what happened But the fact was that there was a former student and a community member who was being kicked off campus with no legitimate reason There was no attack happening And then third, Trustee Ntuk, you made some really gross accusations about me attacking you, if that’s what you’re referring to, or any members that were black? I’m sorry, but that’s just very, very ad hominem, and full of error That’s never happened I have personally been attacked as the only Jewish Board member of this Board And have faced sexism and racism myself, so I would never bring that on to anybody else, and I really, really caution you with your broad-based accusations that are essentially manufacturing reality I don’t think it’s appropriate to espouse such things against your colleague – Sorry Trustee Zia, but when you say that you would never do that to somebody else, I was attacked for being a Christian, but we’re digressing here So Trustee Ntuk – [Sunny] You were not attacked, Madam Chair And I took full responsibility for anything that may have offended you But let’s just be clear I have made no racist remarks, and for Trustee Ntuk to espouse that, and report that that happened is unacceptable and really distasteful Let’s stick to the topic at hand We need to address this issue, and let’s work on putting in meaningful steps and procedures to add accountability for our community and students’ safety – [Uduak] Hey, President Malauulu – Yeah, Trustee Ntuk, yes – [Uduak] Yeah Happy to send multiple examples and written documents, and Trustee Zia’s signature to share I do recall we had a– – [Sunny] Oh, please do I’m curious to see what racist remarks you’re referring to And anything that doesn’t go your way, you invoke race, Trustee Ntuk – [Uduak] The anti-violence communication training has not– – [Sunny] I have no idea what you’re talking about, Trustee Ntuk – [Uduak] It’s in the resolution– – All right, so I’m gonna bring this meeting back to order and ask– – [Lou Anne] Thank you – Get back on track, and it’s 9:47, and we’re on item 5.3 of 15 items on the agenda So let me bring this meeting back to order – [Uduak] I just have one item, President Malauulu – Trustee Ntuk, if this is your item, it is a discussion action item, we have a motion and a second So can I call for the question and just– (muffled speaking) – [Uduak] I’d like to make an amendment to my motion, that we create a ad hoc committee, made up the Board leadership to move forward on this recommendation One of the things is, we wait, wait, wait, wait, later, later, later, more analysis, more research Nothing gets done I’d like to take some of the feedback I heard tonight, from looking at alternative models, evaluating cancellation, talking to stakeholders The SSOs that are budget friendly that I have mentioned earlier I’d like to make an amendment that we add the recommendation to establish an ad hoc committee of the Board leadership to go through this evaluation and report back to the Board with urgency Okay, so Trustee Ntuk, you made the motion Trustee Otto, you seconded, are you okay with that amendment? – Did I second it? – [Vivian] Yes you did – [Doug] I’m fine with that – It was a long time ago, but you did second it – I think it was in June, wasn’t it? – Okay, so we’ve got a motion and a second, Trustee Ntuk, and you’ll have to articulate that motion so Board Secretary knows what we’re voting on Roll call vote please – [Uduak] Can I ask that Board Secretary Hann

to just read the motion one more time? – Yes It’s recommended that the Board of Trustees reevaluate the police contracts, and identify new methods of public safety to end police brutality The Board will discuss and make recommendations to staff of desired changes to the current practices The Board recommends an establishment of an ad hoc committee to go through this evaluation process and report back to the Board Is that sufficient? – [Uduak] Thank you – [Jackie] Okay, you’re welcome – [Sunny] Excuse me, Madam Chair, are we gonna appoint, are you gonna appoint the ad hoc committee? Or is that gonna be deferred? How are we gonna handle the ad hoc? – His motion said Board leadership Is that what you meant Trustee Ntuk? – [Uduak] That’s correct I meant the president, and vice president of the Board The leadership of the Board, yes – Oh, I need to add that in the motion, right – [Sunny] Yeah. (muffled speaking) – Okay – Malauulu, can I bring something up? – Sure – I would be in favor in voting yes for this, except, I don’t like the words, “Identifying new methods of public safety “to end police brutality.” To me, that implies that is police brutality I know there have been instances, I realize that, but I wouldn’t call them brutal Am I being picayune about this? – [Sunny] I agree with you, Trustee Baxter I’m not aware of any evidence either – I do agree that it should be looked at, and I have no objection to the vice president and the president having an ad hoc committee I’m fine with it I just don’t like the words, “To end police brutality.” It implies that something horrible has happened, and we are going to end it – [Uduak] Trustee Baxter? – [Ginny] Yes – [Uduak] We talked about it a number of times What constitutes brutality could be very broad based Whatever the incident that Trustee Zia experienced may be considered brutality I’ve had students tell me they felt that they were harassed and brutalized It’s a very broad term But this is one of the things The situation happens on our campus If you get pulled out of your car, and you were made to view the public shaming of sitting on the curb, I think that’s a form of brutality It doesn’t have to be with the baton sticks, or rubber bullets, or a taser This is looking at, how do we have campus safety without lethal force? Whatever we come back with, ultimately the Board has the majority support – Okay If you’re viewing brutality in that manner, I agree, because I do know that the police have stopped African American males, questioned them unnecessarily about why are you here, and what are you doing? You know what I’m saying So if that’s your definition, I can live with it – Okay, so it’s going to be separate from the initial that it’s recommended that the Board of Trustees reevaluate, and based on the brutality We can have the motion just say, that the Board had recommended an ad hoc committee of the Board president and Board vice president to go through this evaluation process and report back to the Board That’s now the vote, the recommendation Is that correct, are you okay with that? – [Uduak] Yes, that sounds good, thank you Jackie – [Jackie] Okay, you’re welcome – Okay, thank you I appreciate it – Okay, so we’ll take a vote Okay – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries, thank you very much We’re moving on to item 5.4 on the agenda, which is a resolution in support of California Assembly Constitutional Amendment Five, known as ACA-5, California Act for Economic Prosperity

This is a discussion action item The recommended action, it is recommended that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 06240 supporting ACA5, the California Economic Prosperity Act as submitted, for the benefit of the public There are attachments on the agenda where you can view that, and its supporting documents Whatever is the pleasure of the Board, I’ll entertain a motion and a second – [Jena] So moved – [Uduak] Second – We’ve got a motion by, was that Trustee Jena, student trustee? – [Jena] Yes, so someone else is gonna have to motion for me as well – [Uduak] I’ll do the motion for her, for the record – Thank you – We have a motion by Student Trustee Jena Jimenez, officially by Trustee Ntuk I need a second please I will go ahead and second this motion of the discussion I believe, if I’m not mistaken, that Superintendent-President Lou Anne Bynum, you had done some work on this Is that correct? – What we did was we submitted a letter of support with about 50 other community college districts And some of them multiple districts, some of them were single districts And that letter went to Assemblywoman Shirley Weber, in support of her putting that amendment forward But of course, I think it needs to be up to the Board, on a final decision, whether or not you wanna support the entire thing Our letter of support was to make sure that it got moved forward, or to help advocate to have it moved forward for a larger decision by the legislature – Okay Thank you, Lou Anne Is there any additional discussion on this item before we call for the question? – Yes I have Sorry, I do – Trustee Baxter – Yeah, in principle I’m totally in favor of this, except for one thing And that is, I did some research on the University of California Okay, at the University of California in 2018, there were 285,000, I’m rounding up, California residents who attended 3% were African American, that’s horrible 18% Hispanic, also horrible 34% Asian and Pacific Islander, 37% white, but 16% international And so I feel that’s in my mind, that’s part of the problem Is I believe that the international students are taking the place of the African Americans and Hispanics So I don’t know, I just wanna point that out, that it is deplorable that the rate of acceptance by African Americans and Hispanics is too low, but I think part of it is due to the fact that we are taking international students Maybe these are doctoral students, I don’t know who they are But anyway, that’s something So I just wanted to put that into the record The second thing is, I believe in this resolution, and maybe it’s a different resolution We need to look at the local level as far, and people have brought this up before, as far as hiring minority businesses, hiring women-owned businesses That it shouldn’t only be looked at from the state level, but also from the injustices of local people who we are serving, but we’re not hiring them for contracts or other things like that Does that make sense? – [Vivian] Yes it does, thank you Trustee Ntuk, you wanted to weigh in on that? – [Uduak] Yes, thank you Trustee Baxter So this is really a historic opportunity that’s before us We already at the Board adopted our resolution earlier, declaring Black Lives Matter And one of the biggest handcuffs for us to start addressing that is Prop 209 This is a relic of the past, a California of yesterday that outlawed affirmative action in college admissions and public contracting,

and employment opportunities A lot of the things we say we wanna do, we can’t do because of Prop 209 If we wanted to spend more money on recruiting black faculty and staff, we can’t do that because of Prop 209 If we wanted to explicitly have a women and minority owned contracting program, we can’t do that because of Prop 209 This was something done when I was in high school, back in 1996 A different electorate, a different era of California, not the big blue beacon of hope we are today, where diversity is our strength This is, I think, an action of a shrinking, then majority, now minority, took to limit the growth of California as we know it today There’s lots of studies and correlations of the drop off, and the actual University of California, last week, Board of Regions, adopted a nearly identical resolution, but they went into great detail that the drop in African American and Latino students was not due to foreign students It was due to the lack of supports that used to be there There’s a disproportional increase in Asian students And when they tried to bring this back as a ballot item in the past, that was some area of a contentious meeting, maybe five or six years ago, with some of the Asian American caucuses at the state legislative level That is not the case day The API Caucuses endorse this. (muffled speaking) Supports this There’s broad-based support And one of the unique things about getting, this is built-in to the California constitution This is a structural inequity that prevents us from actually solving the problems that we have And this ACA5 would put on the ballot some measure, it doesn’t have a number yet Maybe Prop10, maybe Prop16 I don’t know what it’s gonna be yet But it will allow the voters from California, on the November ballot, to repeal from the California Constitution, Prop 209, which restricts access to small business owners and employment opportunities, and college access And they went through, in detail When we talk about an economy for everybody Studies are done here in L.A. County Because black and Latino businesses don’t have equal access, we’re losing a trillion dollars in economic opportunity, because they don’t have equal access You look at the federal PPP loan, that’s not going to minority women-owned companies, those are going to big corporations That’s a structural inequity And this will allow us to do just what you said, Dr. Baxter We will be able to address it at the local level if we can pass this constitutional amendment in November And ironically today, the second house, the State Senate, passed this two thirds majority And it will be on the November ballot This is happening This basically allows us as policy makers to go on the record that we support this systemic change – Okay, thank you Thank you for the explanation – Thank you Trustee Ntuk Anybody else wanna weigh in on that? Trustee Otto? – This one is a tougher one for me I support the idea of a colorblind constitution, and I know that there is evidence out there that minorities, African American, Hispanic minorities, their opportunities have declined I don’t know that the case has been made as strongly that the reason for that is the existence of this amendment But I plan to support it But the main reason I’m gonna support it, is because I think this is classically an issue that the people should decide And what we’re voting for today allows the people to decide this, because it will go on the ballot, and the people will have a chance to I think periodically, issues like this need

to face the voters, and so I support this – Thank you Anyone else before we move on this item? Okay We have a motion by Trustee Ntuk, a second by me I’m definitely in support of this item, and I’m happy I remember when the Proposition 209 happened, I was actually graduating from Cal State, markers at the time, and had to cover it for one of my journalism stories, so I do remember it If we have a motion and a second, and we’ve had the discussion So Madam Secretary, if you can please call a roll – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – That was the roll call vote Sorry, I apologize Thank you, motion carries And we’re moving on to item 5.5, Introduction to the Process of a Superintendent-President Search This is an information item only For some reason it says that I will present information, I don’t feel like I really have a lot of information to present, other than Superintendent-President Lou Anne Bynum introduced me to two gentlemen, and I’ll let her go ahead and speak on that, and we did have a one hour Zoom meeting earlier in the week And they discussed just an outline framework of the services that they would provide for a search And we wanted to share that information with the public So we have started the wheels several times This Board said that the presidential search for a new Superintendent-President wouldn’t start until after A, we wrapped up this crazy COVID semester, and B, after we concluded commencement We have done both of those, so now we’re ready to move forward with our presidential search, and then I will refer to Lou Anne Bynum if she’d like to add any additional information to that – Yeah, thank you President Malauulu You had asked, and the Board has been asking about this topic So one of the things I did was reach out There was a process that was in place last time, let me just briefly go through that There was a ad hoc committee of the Board, there was a selection made for different search firms And then there’s a screening process, there’s a first level interview You all get to pick somebody, I think, if that’s looking at the regulations for that But this time around, just to get a sense of what’s going on in California in terms of search, I did contact Ben Duran of PPL Ben is the owner of the search firm, they’ve done 27 searches here in California, and they’ve done national searches They’ve all done national searches for the major colleges He was a Chancellor of Merced, he’s very well respected in the state and in the system And I just asked him to just walk through a process so we can a good idea of how it’s being done now, have there been any kinds of changes from three or four years ago I set up a phone call with President Malauulu, myself, and Ben And he had his colleague there, Dean Colli And they talked about, I don’t think it’s any surprise, the process would be essentially, you pick kind of what you’re looking for for a start date, and you work backwards The whole thing would be in terms of their firm has specific things that they do They have two people work on a search You don’t pay for two people, you pay for one They don’t do presidential searches, any other presidential search when they’re working on a search, say, if they were doing it for us They also talked about the fact that they do very deep reference checks They look for the criteria, work with the Board to set the criteria, set a profile, make sure that there’s an appropriate kind of reflective website setup that the tools for the screening committee are done well, and the screening committee, of course, needs to go through that process Then of course, there’s a college-wide committee, which is the first level And they would work very closely with the committees as well, and handle that with a point person here at the college They did talk about the fact that they would be willing, if you wanted a little bit more information specifically about how they would handle it, they could come back in, say, July and share that with you But you may wanna go out and do a request for proposals for a number of different firms, or you can select a couple or three,

and maybe have them come and do interviews But essentially, that’s the process I don’t think there’s anything new with it But they’ve been pretty successful, they’ve actually hired, I think, three presidents in the last few months, during the COVID, which is pretty amazing Anyways, I’d be happy to answer any questions – Anybody have any questions on this item? It is just information item, and we will come back to the Board before any decisions are made – [Uduak] Trustee Ntuk here – [Vivian] Yes – [Uduak] I mean, it is a good time to kind of talk about this The COVID, it looks like, is going longer And originally we thought this was gonna be a eight week, a partial semester, the full semester Disneyland just announced they are not opening in July The cases are going back up as these reopening is happening, which we have no vaccine, we have no therapy They talk about 12 to 18 month timeframe, once a vaccine is identified, and that’s 12 to 18 months to make enough vaccines that’s widely available, which we don’t have right now Yeah, this pandemic’s gonna go on into the next year – Yes – I don’t know what my colleagues think about the search I mean everything is like, now you gotta figure out how to do it virtually Are we gonna do a virtual search, or interviews, or how do we get stakeholder involvement from the Academic Senate and from students when we can never see ’em? Virtual meetings work, but it’s kind of interesting to hear what people’s thoughts are on the process – If I could just quickly, the last couple of searches they’ve done and they’ve made a hire have been done virtually And it was with the same, there was a search committee that consists of all the constituent groups, and the appointees from the Board, and anybody else that needs to be on the committee But they seem to think it worked fairly well It’s always best when you can meet somebody directly from my own personal perspective, but they could do the search virtually And a lot of places around the country, they said, are doing them virtually – Anybody else? Okay, so this Yes, Trustee Otto – I just wanna say one quick thing, and that is, it’s important when considering the timing of this to think about the market And I think I’d like to know what people think the market is out there for community college presidents Because I know that the, a lot of people are staying in place because of all this, and there may be a smaller But it’s just a question that needs to be asked in the process of doing this My sense of it is that presidents are saying, “Well, I got this thing here, “maybe this isn’t the time to move.” Therefore, you have fewer people that you may be looking at That’s all – Okay, thank you very much Lou Anne, just to confirm Will you be introducing me or the rest of the Board to any other potential consultants? How do you see this happening? Will we just accept the contract proposal from the gentleman I met with on Monday? Or how do you see this happening? – Well, that’s really up to the Board how you would like to handle that If you want a number of proposals to come in from others, we would just set up a request for proposals and send it out to firms – I think that’s probably best The gentlemen I met with are very nice, but I think in all fairness, we should have more than one that the Board can look at Maybe you can send us an email of the scope of work, and what they include, and then let the Board decide ‘Cause ultimately, we’ll be the ones having to make the decision anyway – President Malauulu, I think we had at least three proposals last time – Correct – And I think that’s a good idea – I think so too So Lou Anne, you and I can work in the next couple of weeks, and then we can meet with a couple of other consultants,

and then present something to the Board by the next meeting Some information in writing so at least they can review – I think that would be good I guess one question I would have, do you want the representative from PPL to come and speak to you directly at the next Board meeting? – We can, but I still think we should have other proposals Let the Board decide who’d they’d like to hear more from I’d be happy (muffled speaking) my opinions, if anybody asks – Well, yeah I’ll work with HR and I know that we have documentation from the last time too, and it’ll have to be updated But I’ll work with HR to specify a request for proposals to go out to some firms And it’s gonna take a little bit of time We have to get that done We have to make sure we get it out, and give people a timeline So I’m not quite sure if there’s enough information to come back in July But I can let you know – Okay, sounds good – [Ginny] President Malauulu – Yes, Trustee Baxter – I love Trustee Otto But he’s leaving, and we’re going to have somebody new Is it not fair to wait ’til after the election Even though I respect Doug, everything about you – Are you saying, sorry to interrupt Are you saying to wait until after the election to select a consultant? – No – [Vivian] To select the Superintendent-President – To start the search or the selection, or whatever I just feel like I think Trustee Ntuk would have felt better if he, and I mean we can’t control the world on this, but if he had been involved in the search And will the next person feel like they come in, and this is the person that was selected without their input – Yeah Sorry, Trustee Otto, I don’t know if you wanna respond, but I don’t see us having a new Superintendent-President between now and November – [Ginny] Okay – I do see us (muffled speaking) A consultant between now and November, and starting the process And I don’t see that as a problem for Trustee Otto to work with us in securing a consultant Because ultimately, the committee will bring forward five finalists, or however many finalists And I think Trustee Otto will already be on his new Board by then All right, does anybody else– – If I may also too, just from a time perspective, many faculty are not working this summer, and then they come back in September, and it’s really a load at the beginning of the semester So being able to pull screening and committee people together won’t happen right away when we get back in the fall semester – Right, I agree I think we’ll be lucky if we have a consultant by the election – [Uduak] President Malauulu? – Yes – [Uduak] Trustee Baxter was speaking about some other Trustee Ntuk, I had no qualms about when I got on the Board and when the process happened I think it was a whole year and a half difference I think however election happens in November, I think what’s important for us to do is to lay out the process And going through what does our policies and procedures say, what is best practices, how do we make it a fair and equitable process in the Coronavirus pandemic era and then thinking about our outreach, that we really wanna make sure we have a good candidate pool, and that we’re not being restricted All this stuff going on at the school district, they didn’t have a robust, external outreach process They just kinda had somebody inside they were gonna pick, and they picked And I think it’s a better process by casting a wider net, but making sure that we have an inclusive process that has faculty, that has community members, that has trustees We should map all that out So no matter who wins in November, the train can be rolling, and we can have a good process in place And I think the Board as it is is able to do that And just one other thing I know we had mentioned, maybe two or three months back now, talked about having a retreat where we really go through this process When can schedule it at a time that’s not necessarily a Board meeting, where we can take more time to discuss, and go through the process It’ll be recorded, all the documents are online

It’s transparent and accessible, so everybody can see I have not been through a search process at the campus So I’d like to see what do we have to do, versus what are some creative things we can do during the pandemic to really get a new leader on campus Or permanent leader Sorry Lou Anne, you’re there leading – That’s all right – All right, thank you very much I don’t know if anybody needs to respond to that, but I’m trying to move us along Just because it’s already 10:19 p.m., and we are on item 5.6 This is Board support of nomination for Board president Malauulu, that’s me, for the Trustee leadership award through the Association of Community College’s Trustees So I would like to defer this to Trustee Ntuk As vice president, you handle this agenda item It is an action item, so Trustee Ntuk, if I can defer this to you please – [Uduak] Sure Thank you President Malauulu I’m happy to do this So this is ACCT, which is the National Trustee Association nomination, and I think it’s very appropriate that we nominate Vivian for this award, and be able to send in documentation about all the work she’s done Not just for West Long Beach, but for the college and the community, and really being an equity champion the last few years since she’s been on the Board So if there’s a motion from one of the other Trustee – I move – [Doug] I’ll make the motion I’ll make the motion – [Jena] Second – [Uduak] Great, it’s been moved and seconded to advance the nomination of President Malauulu to the AACT Open the floor for any discussion on this topic – [Sunny] I’m sorry, who seconded? – [Jackie] That’s what I need to know too – [Jena] It was me that seconded, so someone else needs to officially second – [Uduak] So it was Student Trustee Jimenez The motion, was that Trustee Otto that made it? – Yes – [Ginny] Yes And I second it – [Uduak] Okay, and Ginny will be the second for Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jackie] The student trustee, yes – [Uduak] All right, so we have a motion and a second I’ll open the floor for any discussion – [Sunny] Yeah, I have a question Who was recipient or nominee from the district last year, and who was the actual recipient? – I’m not sure we have the same award, but Doug Otto was submitted – [Sunny] That’s right, I remember nominating him, okay – Yeah, but we have not had anybody from LBCC win – [Sunny] Say that again? – We didn’t have anybody from LBCC win one of the awards – [Sunny] Okay, so this isn’t a new award – No, it’s there– (Sunny muffled speaking) Their common awards – [Sunny] Okay – There’s a lot of nominations – [Sunny] Okay, we had nominated Doug last year, he just didn’t get it So this year we’re nominating, Vivian is nominating herself? – [Uduak] No, the Board is nominating We have a nomination motion from Trustee Otto, seconded by Trustee Baxter So the Board is making the nomination I can read off here what’s in the Board agenda The recommendation is the Board of Trustees support the nomination of Board President Vivian Malauulu for the Trustee Leadership Award This is the M. Dale Ensign Trustee Award I’ll read this for background The ACCT Board of Directors usually annually honors an individual who has made a significant contribution as trustee towards promoting a community college concept The award is named after one of ACCT’s pioneers, and the third president of the association M. Dale Ensign was a trustee for many years at Northwest Community College in Powell, Wyoming He served as ACCT President, while the move from the National Schools Boards Association was undertaken in 1972 He has lived a lifetime in service And so this award is honoring him This goes to the ACCT National Board of Directors for consideration – [Sunny] Call for the vote – [Uduak] All right, any other discussion on the item? – [Sunny] I just called for the vote (muffled speaking) We’re gonna call for a vote, then we can do that – [Sunny] Yeah – [Uduak] Board President Hann? – Board President? – [Uduak] I’m sorry I’m giving you a promotion here (muffled speaking) So here we go – [Jackie] That you have to work as hard? – [Uduak] I’m doing a roll call vote,

according to the pandemic rules – I’m sorry Trustee Ntuk Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – Abstain – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] And Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Thank you – Thank you to my colleagues for the nomination, and thank you Trustee Ntuk for coordinating that agenda item We will move on to item 5.7 on the agenda, which is Resolution Governing Board Member Election, November 3rd 2020, for trustees areas two and four Currently I represent area two, Trustee Otto represents area four This is an action item The recommended action is that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420A, ordering a governing board member election on November 3rd 2020 And setting forth the specifications of the election order as submitted, for the benefit of the public There are attachments on the agenda on Board docs I’ll entertain a motion – So moved – [Uduak] Second – Moved by Trustee Otto, second by Trustee Ntuk Is there any discussion necessary on this item? Seeing none, Madam Secretary, if you can please take a roll call vote – Jena Hernandez I’m sorry – [Jena] That’s okay – [Jackie] Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – I really do, I do Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Moving on to item 5.8 on the agenda, this is a resolution candidate statement governing board member election, November 3rd, 2020 It’s an action item The recommended action is that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420B, pertaining that candidate statements for the November 3rd, 2020 governing board member selection as submitted I’ll entertain a motion and a section – [Uduak] So moved, Trustee Ntuk – Trustee Ntuk made the motion, Trustee Otto seconded Any discussion on the item? – [Uduak] Can I ask a question for Lou Anne? – [Lou Anne] Yes sir – [Uduak] Why did we do 200 words, versus 400 words? Is it cheaper, versus just the minimalist? Giving people an opportunity to say more – I’m sorry We’re talking about – [Uduak] This is the election resolution 5.8 – I don’t know, quite honestly, Trustee Ntuk But I’ll ask Jackie Hann, she may know – Well, first of all, the candidates pay for their statements, their candidate statements So if you keep it at the 200, it would be less expensive But we can authorize an increase to 400, but I believe our policy is written the same And then, of course, it depends on the languages, the English and the additional for Spanish cost For the different areas, based on the number of voters in your area, so the cost – [Uduak] So it sounds like if we keep it at $200, that’s more equitable, it keeps the price down for candidates who wanna run (muffled speaking) – [Jackie] Uh-huh – [Uduak] Okay All right, great answer to my question Thank you – Okay You’re welcome – Thank you, Madam Secretary, if you could please take roll call vote – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – And Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries And that concludes section five on the agenda We’re making progress We’re moving on to section six, which is the consent agenda And I do need to pull one item Vice President Gene Durand I don’t know where that is on the concent, I don’t know what item number that is, but there was a typo So we’d like to pull that item, and then make the correction on it, and vote on it separately Gene, are you on? – I am So it’s Academic Consent, which is item number 617, and it is there Apologize, there’s a clerical error on page five of six in that academic senate executive stipend for Colin Williams, which there listed is at 6,000, should be listed at $1,000 – Okay, so it’s item 6.17 that we need to pull?

– Yes please – Thank you, Gene Would any other trustees like to pull any additional items on the consent agenda? – Yes, I’d like to pull 6.13 – Okay, Trustee Baxter is pulling 6.13 Anyone else? – [Sunny] Trustee Malauulu, Chair Malauula, I’d like to also pull item 6.8 – 6.8 is being pulled by Trustee Zia Anybody else? Okay, so we need a motion – Give me one moment, so I can pull those please, thank you – Okay so Jackie, we’re pulling 6.8, 6.13, 6.17, and when she’s ready, I’ll entertain a motion to approve the concent agenda minus those items – [Sunny] So moved – So we’ve got a motion by Student Trustee Jimenez – [Sunny] No, that was, that was Trustee Zia – Trustee Zia Both of your voices sound so much alike, I always confuse– – [Sunny] I know, I’m quite flattered – So we have a motion by Trustee Zia, and we need a second for the consent agenda – [Ginny And Doug] Second – Second by Trustee Baxter, and Madam secretary, do we have any discussion on the concent agenda? – You don’t discuss unless you pull it – Got it So we’ve got a motion and a second, go ahead and take a roll call vote please – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] And Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Okay, motion carries Trustee Zia, take it away with item 6.8 please – Yes, I’m looking at these changes This has been a longstanding issue for me, it’s kind of my hobby horse as far as change orders and cost control, and just contract amendments in general, and contract limits I’m looking at this, this is the 19th change order, and I was hoping someone could help clarify, why are we going through so many change orders with these contracts? I know we have a capable bond management team, and I recognize in the totality of the not exceed value, it’s infinitesimal If someone can help me understand why the repeated change orders on these contracts, I’d appreciate it – I don’t know if that would be for Bob Bob, would you be– – [Sunny] Or Walter, I think– – [Jackie] Is Walter still here? – Walter is still here, I don’t know if he can hear us – [Walter] Yes, I’m still here – [Vivian] There you go – Walter, can you respond to that please – Well, the change orders is for various reasons Some of them are unforeseen conditions Basically most of it is unforeseen conditions Some of it user group add ons, doing discussion I have John Duong here on our management team as well, and he maybe can speak to this as well – Yeah, Sorry everybody Good evening Board members Hi, John Duong, program director with the bond management team Yeah, I can help explain that a little bit Building J, our current project, obviously in the existing building that we’re renovating, and also, we’re also including a pretty hefty billing addition And with that, like Walter said, we have a lot of unforeseen conditions with that building It’s not the easiest building It has a 65 foot ceiling height for a stage, very specialized type building A lot of things built in 1955 that was pretty challenging to work with today And that’s kind of the gist of this particular project I don’t know if that helps answer the question – [Sunny] So was this an owner enhancement change order? Or was it an unforeseen condition? – This one here It’s not like added items,

it’s items that are scoped that’s already in the contract, but a lot of the items as I’m reading them, I think there’s a lot of items that, like how does it join the existing And items come up that don’t quite work out that well Like revisions for landscaping, concrete landing, and things like that There’s existing concrete landings, and then you’re trying to build your new, and sometimes they don’t really join well with the slopes, and making the 80 slopes So I think a lot of times you’re trying to kind of mitigate those issues in the field, and figure those things out But change order 19 has minor revisions, landscape and concrete landing Inflation, new paint booth, guy-wire, we have a new paint booth I think when you get out there, I think you just to add a few more supports to make sure that it’s supported correctly, and everything’s holding up per code So I think those are kind of the items that we’re looking at for this particular change order, number 19 – There’s a listing that you can see the different items and the cost per item if you go– – [Sunny] Yeah, I’m fully aware of that I’m just not seeing a very compelling rationale I see potential change orders I just think perhaps we could just unpack it a little bit better in these change order descriptions for the Board I recognize these are under consent, but for years I’ve been trying to sunshine some of these issues, so that it’s not just for the Board members, for the members of the public as well, that they understand how their tax dollars are being spent And I just don’t think there’s enough information If there’s a way where we can help clarify and better flush that out in the description, and why there’s a need, if it’s an order enhancement, there was an unforeseen condition, if it’s a matter of code enforcement Whatever it is, it just needs a little bit more rigor, and I would appreciate that with our change orders and our contract amendments, and especially the ones that are being ratifying – [Uduak] Point of order, President Malauulu – Yes, go ahead – [Uduak] Yeah, I don’t believe we have a motion on the table, and we’re having lots of discussion Are we gonna adopt this or not? Can we get a motion? – Well, I defer to Trustee Zia, since she pulled that item Trustee Zia, would you care to make a motion for it? – [Sunny] Yeah, usually when we pull an item, you did it correctly The person who pulls it asks the questions, and then we move forward But I’m happy to make a motion if that’s what you’re asking me to, so we can have the discussion But I wanna move this along Those are some of the things I wanted to punctuate and flag for the staff, so we can make our processes better And that’s all – Trustee Zia, we can take a look at providing some more context and background for some of the– – [Sunny] I appreciate that – [Lou Anne] Okay – [Uduak] Yes, Trustee Zia, I’m sorry – There’s some attachments attached to the agenda, and I’m just having a hard time opening But we do, and I can provide you that We do have a whole write up on all of our change orders, and in our change order system, we mark everything, errors and omissions, unforeseen condition, owner requested items, things like that – [Sunny] Yeah, I’m looking at that agenda John, that attachment, it’s not there as far as the reference, but that’s okay I’m not trying to make a federal case out of this, but let’s just make it better And I think the interim superintendent provided a reasonable response – [John] Will do – [Sunny] That’s good, I’ll make the motion to approve – Second – Okay, we need the motion Trustee Zia – [Sunny] I made it – Okay, are you making a motion to approve? – [Sunny] Yeah, I made it a minute ago – Okay – [Sunny] And it’s Trustee Baxter that seconded – [Uduak] What’s the motion again? – To approve item 6.8 – [Jackie] To ratify – To ratify item 6.8 Trustee Zia made the motion, Trustee Baxter seconded Any discussion? I would just like to add that I do appreciate

having a little bit more clarity on some of these consent items myself And I know that in the past couple of years, Marlene and also her team have done a really good job of tweaking the contracts, and adding a little bit more information I think it’s good for us, and I think it’s good for the public So any time we have an opportunity to improve on something that discloses such information, I think we should take advantage of that So I am in favor of this item Anybody else? Okay, we’ve got a motion and a second Roll call vote, please – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] And Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – [Jackie] Excuse me Trustee Ntuk, did you say, “Nay”? – [Sunny] I said, “Aye.” – No Trustee Ntuk? What was your vote? – [Uduak] Oh sorry Yeah, no, I said yes – [Jackie] Thank you – [Uduak] It was an affirmative – [Jackie] Thank you – Okay, motion carries Moving on to item 6.13 Trustee Baxter, I will defer that to you – Yes, thank you I’m gonna make the motion, so I don’t mess this up that we approve item 6.13, and then I’ll bring up my questions – We have a second? – [Doug] Second – [Uduak] Second, Trustee Ntuk here – [Vivan] We’ve got a motion by Trustee Baxter to ratify item 6.13, second by Trustee Otto Go ahead Trustee Baxter with the discussion – Okay, I have two questions on this item The first one is contract number 99780.8, and it is the contract with Brailsford & Dunlavey And my question is, first of all this is something very important to me, because it’s a feasibility study on homeless housing I could have sworn that we approved that last October And Dr. Muñoz, I’m glad you’re still here And so why is this being brought up? And the reason I’m being kind of obnoxious about this, is this is something that Trustee Zia and I have been supporting for years, and last week, Cerritos College had the ribbon cutting of their student housing Student housing is being built at Rio Hondo College, and here we sit So why are we approving this now when I thought we approved it in October? – Those are really good points, Trustee Baxter – So I’m gonna have to defer that particular question to Bob My understanding that the feasibility study was approved previously, so I’m not sure why it’s coming back So I would have to defer that to the contracts office – So from the contract’s point of view, we list items on the agenda as the contracts are drawn So we don’t really affect the timeline in regards to when the contract comes onto the agenda So Dr. Baxter, I’m more than happy to look into this, and see if we can provide some sort of timeline for the Board, if you would like to have that – Well, my question is, if we approved this, and I’m thinking it was October or November, I would have thought by now that we would have the presentation of the study that we approved the money for But it sounds like it hasn’t even started yet, Bob If you’re unable to answer that, and I’m sorry I should have asked this before the Board meeting, but I just thought perhaps I misunderstood something – [Uduak] Trustee Baxter, It’s Uduak here I’m looking at the contract, it was signed April 13th 2020 – Really? – [Uduak] I thought we did this earlier this year, on the previous Board meeting that we accepted the bids – [Jackie] We did something in February on that – [Uduak] Yeah, I thought it was February With Coronavirus and everything, we’re a few months delayed here, but not a year – I think I’ve got some information that shows that the approved entering the contract in February, and then the staff subsequently negotiated that contract afterwards February of 2020, which would have been–

– Okay, I didn’t think it was a year ago, I thought it was October Okay, so well then, I suppose nobody can answer, when will we have the results of this feasibility study? – I don’t know Trustee Baxter, I’ll have to get back to that yeah – Yeah, that’s a rhetorical question – I need to do a status update and see where it is – Okay Yes, if we could do that And there’s no point in asking for a status update next month Maybe in three months? – Okay – [Jackie] It’s not gonna move that fast, I don’t think – Well, we’ll keep an eye on that ball and let you know – Okay, great And then the second question I have is CN99772.6, which is the contract for Mr. Ewing, who I think is wonderful, but I just thought it was interesting that we would go from 20,000 to 180,000, to be a total of 200,000 And again Bob, hopefully you can answer that And I understand it’s ’til 2023, so it’s not ’til June 30th But is the reason from 20,000 to 180,000, or increase 180,000 to 200,000 – Bob, if I can just preface that So Mr. Ewing’s original contract was for 20,000 At this point in time, he actually has invoiced, and it’s not showing up yet, for an additional 46,000, and that doesn’t include May and June So we would have to amend his contract anyways The other increase has to do with work that’s being done under his firm for the district – Okay But is it normal to make that big of an increase? I understand you have to increase it, because more money has been expended, than is under the contract – Right – As I said, I’m not against Mr. Ewing, I think he’s doing a wonderful job I just question the increase – Well, what we’re doing is, it has been some practice in the past, contracts that are 200,000 or less, they get ratified, and sometimes we just put ’em at 200,000, because they’ve got a long contract period and we don’t have to recontract with them In his case, he has incurred more expenses, and he does have a contract that’s going to 2023, so an additional 180,000 is being added to his contract – Okay Okay, thank you – [Sunny] Chair– – [Uduak] Ginny – [Sunny] Yeah, questions – [Uduak] Sorry On your previous question, I was looking on the Brailsford & Dunlavey contract They do have a timeline that’s there in the attachment And it looks like it started in April, and it goes through stakeholder engagement in April and May And there’s an on-campus meeting scheduled for August, which is probably the first timeline – And I think– – [Uduak] Sorry – I was just gonna add to that, Trustee Ntuk Part of the negotiation was determining the timeline, but that was impacted by COVID So we may have the results to this study actually in the middle of the fall, or later – It just seems to me that this is taking an inordinate amount of time And I understand, there’s procedures and things like that But time marches on – [Jackie] Right – But thank you, Uduak Yeah, I’m looking at the contract right now – [Uduak] It’s almost like the second to last page – [Jackie] Yeah, okay – [Uduak] At the very bottom – [Jackie] Okay – So just to clarify, in November we ran the RFP – Okay, all right – That’s what the Board was approving at that time, so I just thought that And then Trustee Baxter, really quick to answer your question about contracts There’s two ways we do them If they’re for a specific scope, and we know there’s a certain amount of work to be done, and there’s a finite dollar amount, we’ll put it on the contract for that amount, say 20,000 If it’s an ongoing contract over multiple years, like Superintendent-President Bynum stated We can cap it at a maximum of 200,000 to keep it under the threshold

That does not mean that $200,000 will be extended on that contract, it simply means that we’re setting not to exceed thresholds at that dollar amount – Okay – [Sunny] Chair Malauulu, I have a question – Yes, go ahead – [Sunny] And I’m going to direct my question to Chair Malauulu, since this contract says it reports to you So I’d like to understand what the scope of this contract amendment is It’s unclear from what is stated on the concent agenda What’s the scope? – So it is my understanding that the Board entered into this agreement for representation and council, for Board Council, not for one particular engagement And we’ve had this discussion many times over the past several months It comes up every single month In fact, I distinctly remember saying that we’re talking about it now, but it’ll come up again next month, and it’ll come up again next month Wen we retained this council, it was for the purposes of Board business, and Board conducting business, and Board being able to seek advice, and seek council So everything has been discussed out in the open, and everything has been As far as I know, unless there’s something that I’m not aware of, all the billing has gone through the proper channels, the proper protocol has been followed I didn’t realize that Marlene wouldn’t be here Lou Anne wants to add anything to that, but – [Lou Anne] I’m also not aware of there being any– – [Sunny] (muffled speaking) reports to you, Madam Chair I think it’s appropriate for you to answer the question What is the scope that we’re increasing their contract from 20,000 to 200,000 When we brought ’em on board, and in fact in the original contract, it says, “For this engagement.” It was one issue and investigation And that was– – That’s not true It’s an open contract – [Sunny] Excuse me, I have the floor Trustee Otto That’s what the scope says here I’ll read it for the benefit of the Board “The District shall retain council, “as council to the Broad of Trustees “who represented the district, to provide legal advice, “counseling, or related legal services “in the connection with the Board for this engagement.” Was for one engagement – But I understood this engagement, sorry to interrupt you I understood this engagement as serving as Board Council – [Sunny] No, if you recall, it was for one specific engagement that has been made public for the purposes of an investigation And that’s what I’m wondering, is this something that Like I said, I’m just trying to understand why we’re adding $180,000, and what is that gonna cover, what’s the scope – [Uduak] President Malauulu – [Vivian] Yes, Trustee Ntuk, one second And I’ll call on you in just a second – [Uduak] Sure – I’m sorry Trustee Zia, that’s not how I remember it, but there are five of us in that room My recollection is that we entered into a contract with council, “For this engagement,” meant for Board representation And we’ve talked about this again So if anybody else had a different recollection, then please speak now, because I anticipate we’ll be talking about this for months to come But for this engagement was for Board Council, period Any issues that may arise for Board Council – [Sunny] That’s not how I recall it And I went and looked at the video on September 17th 2019, when we approved it, and it was very specific to just one issue So if we’re going to expand this, I’m not saying it’s right, wrong, or different, I’d just like to know what the scope is gonna carry – It’s the same scope of work, Board Council – [Sunny] To do an investigation, is that what it is? – The investigations are both continuing, so definitely the investigations, because they haven’t concluded yet – [Sunny] For 200,000? – Pardon? – [Sunny] For the total of 200,000? – They’re continuing – [Sunny] No, no I’m just trying to understand what the dollar threshold is now Is it 200,000 now? – [Uduak] Point of order – [Sunny] Or is it something else? – [Uduak] Point of order – No, it’s not something else Trustee Ntuk, I hear your point of order, go ahead – [Uduak] No I would I would just like to again remind Board policy 2014,

that once the majority of the Board acts, the Board works together And we don’t every meeting come back to the same issue that we already voted on, have debated, discussed We know the result It’s not about what you heard in the video, it’s about what was in the document, and what we ratified And so I would just like to make a motion to adopt 6.13 – [Sunny] Excuse me, I still have questions on the item, and I don’t think– – [Uduak] Point of order Point of order – [Sunny] You’re trying to cut discussion, and muzzle discussion Trustee Ntuk – [Uduak] Point of order – [Sunny] Your call But I still have the floor, I have quite a bit of questions, and I’d like to get answered – Okay Trustee Ntuk, I hear your point of order, go ahead with the point of order, and then we’ll get back to Trustee Zia’s question – [Uduak] Yeah, I made a motion on the floor And if there’s a second that we can discuss and continue to ask questions It doesn’t end discussion by having the motion – [Sunny] I don’t understand the point of your motion, Trustee Ntuk Have my questions to do my job as a trustee, so please let me finish I think it’s important to fulfill my fiduciary duty, Trustee Ntuk, and I don’t have anything against this firm This is something I ask on most contract, especially with things this number of increase This multitude of increase So you’re saying it’s going from 20,000, and it’s expanding to 200,000, Trustee Malauulu, for continuing the engagement that was set in the original contract for the investigation Is that right? – That’s absolutely correct, but the scope of work remains the same This is Board Council, in fact he’s here at the meeting So Vincent, attorney Vincent Ewing actually elaborate, but as far as the scope of work, you’ve asked me several times, and I’ve answered the question several – [Sunny] I’m sorry, but I think for the members of the public, it was just very conspicuously opaque, the way it’s presented in the ratification on the consent agenda, and I’m trying to elucidate that, and better understand myself I don’t understand it – It’s kind of similar to the experience we had last month with the Francisco Leal contract Same thing And I think what you’re saying is exactly what we were thinking – [Sunny] You are making a lot of inferences, and optics allegations But I’m just trying to get the facts here, Trustee Malauulu, and I would appreciate it if you can just answer the question – I did Multiple times – [Sunny] Well, I have more questions I’m trying to get to them if you allow me The other question I have is, why is the term being extended to 2023? What’s the need to go to that term, Chair Malauulu? – So, I wasn’t aware that the term was being extended to 2023 until I saw the email – [Sunny] It’s on the agenda that’s published – Correct And I wasn’t aware, because I hadn’t clicked on that item until I saw the email that Lou Anne Bynum sent in response to your questions And the three was actually omitted from the email, and that’s what prompted me to go back and click on the actual contract Because when Lou Anne sent the email in response to your question, I noticed that there was a digit missing in the date It said 202, and I went back and looked, and I saw that it was 2023 So Lou Anne, Vince, if you wanna address that to respond to her question – That’s correct, it was my mistake I just dropped off the three In terms of doing the contract, I don’t think it’s uncommon for us to have two or three years out for a contract And as to the firm’s– – [Sunny] But was that your decision, or was that– – No – [Sunny] To the Chair, so who made the determination to extend it to 2023? – Well, I’m gonna ask Mr Rapoza to respond to that I think there’s probably a process that we have in place for contracts in that regard – [Vivian] Yeah, and answer to your question, Trustee Zia, that was not my decision I wasn’t even aware of the interim of that contract – [Sunny] Okay, well what’s the basis for the term? – So, Lou Anne just deferred that to Bob Rapoza for the basis of that Bob, are you there? My screen have everybody on there, let me go to the next – Yeah, Bob’s here – Yes, I’m here, Board President Malauulu We can extend the contract up to five years It’s really predicated on whoever puts the contract request in

And as long as they don’t extend it beyond a five-year term, which is what’s specified in the public contract code, it’s permissible – [Sunny] So who put that proposal in, for a five year extension? It’s for 2023, excuse me – Technically, in this case it would be an additional So it came in 2019 was the original contract, that correct? If it were five years, it would be 2024, but it’s 2023 – [Sunny] Yeah, so who made that determination? – I don’t know I will have to find out – [Sunny] Okay And then how much was invoiced today? Did I hear you correctly, how much was it again? – So there was the original contract was 20,000, and what showed in there original, we haven’t got the invoices process, but there’s an additional $46,000 worth of invoices that have come in So if you put those two together, Mr. Ewing’s contract expenditure so far would be about 66,000 – [Sunny] Oh, I’m sorry, I misunderstood you So we’re actually, I thought it was in totality 46,000 The contract has been, there’s been invoices, we’ve gone over the contract – But we would have had to do– – [Sunny] I get that But why did we go over the contract amount to begin with? ‘Cause the contract not to exceed value should mean something, right? We shouldn’t go over it Why did we go over that? – We had a net 45 days to be able to process invoices At this contract, I did ask DP Drinkwine to make it 30 days, so we don’t have invoices lagging too far, and they catch up sooner – [Sunny] I’m concerned Who’s managing the costs here? Isn’t this reporting to the Chair? Isn’t this under her purview to manage the invoices? So why did we go over the contract value? I mean it says it reports to the Chair, or am I missing something? Who’s managing this contract? – Trustee Malauulu, can I call for the question? – [Sunny] I have more questions, Trustee Baxter – I am sorry I brought this up – [Sunny] I was gonna bring it up – Had actually already called for the question, and I tabled it, so that we can respond to Trustee Zia But Trustee Zia, I do review the invoices, and then I send them over to Marlene Drinkwine In fact, on a few of the emails that I’ve sent to her, I’ve asked her to review them, because some seem like there might be duplicate billing with the attorney And Marlene has confirmed with me, no it isn’t, that’s accurate, or they double check So there is dialogue behind the scenes with all of these contracts And I know Trustee Ntuk, you called for the question, but you also had questions yourself, but Trustee Zia still has more questions – [Sunny] And I appreciate it I really appreciate it I’ll try to go quickly– – Let Trustee Zia finish her question, Trustee– – [Uduak] Actually, I didn’t call to the question Trustee Baxter called for the question, which is a non-debatable under Robert’s Rules of Order, and requires a two-thirds vote to move forward, and the call to question would end debate So at this point we have to vote on should we end debate – [Sunny] I think it’s important for us– – [Uduak] Of Trustee Baxter, according to our rules, if we’re following the process – [Sunny] If I could ask Trustee Baxter to remove her motion so I can get some of these questions answered, I’ll try to be as concise as possible – Go ahead I don’t have a problem with the line of questioning, Trustee Zia What I do have a problem with is perhaps, you mentioned the word inferences I think that at some point, you’re also inferring that things are being handled differently with this contract There is nothing being done differently, or out of the norm For one, me personally, I don’t operate that way For two, everything I do includes Lou Anne Bynum, Marlene Drinkwine, whoever is in charge While I do get the invoices, and I do review them, all I’m doing is forwarding them And if the scope of work has expanded to include additional work for the purpose of Board Council, which actually it has, and there are additional items that have come up which does require more legal council time, then he’s billing for that A laborer is worth his wages So I think you mentioned earlier how you thought that everybody should have a seat at the table when discussing the police contract Well, we’ve got the person is being discussed sitting right here at the table,

and he can address some of your questions way better than I can He’s the one submitting the invoices, he’s the one actually doing the work So if you really are concerned about people being discussed, and not having a seat at the table, I defer to Vincent Ewing – [Sunny] The other I had was, are there any other contracts embedded in this contract? And if so, what’s the value on the term? – So Vincent, would you please answer that? – I’m happy to Thank you President Malauulu Board Trustee Zia, your question I think was, are there any other contracts embedded within– – [Sunny] Yeah, a subcontract – The contract that is before you – [Sunny] Yes, does it include any other contracts? – Yes There’s a subcontract that has been entered into per suint to the terms of the contract that’s before you – [Sunny] What’s the amount, and what’s the scope of the subcontract? And who’s it with? – It’s a confidential matter, and I cannot discuss it in open session – [Sunny] Okay, can you discuss the value and the term? – I cannot – [Sunny] Okay, and why is that again? The value of the contract without referencing the name of the subcontract? – It’s a confidential matter, and I cannot discuss it open session I’m bound by the Business and Professions Code, and the rules of professional responsibility as Council to the Board and the district to hold your confidences I cannot disclose those unless you all authorize me to disclose them, and you have not done that – [Sunny] Okay, so it’s my understanding that there was a previous investigation with Beth Corriea for $20,000 that was re-sunshined, and that didn’t seem to be confidential It was for the same matter that this may include, and I don’t understand why we can’t have a separate contract with the contractor or subcontractor, that you’re alluding to, rather than embedding it into your contract as a subcontract, so that the members of the public can have the right to see what the scope is for – Right – [Sunny] We did it previously – I appreciate your comment I don’t agree with you that the prior matter was discussed in open session It was also a confidential, closed session discussion – [Sunny] No, I’m not talking about the substance, Vince, I’m talking about the actual contract We sunshined it when did a direct contract Beth Corriea, the previous investigator who terminated her contract, and charged us for it, for some of the contract value I don’t understand why we’re embedding a new investigator from what it sounds like under your contract, and why we can’t do a direct contract – Trustee Otto You what, Trustee Otto, I’m sorry Are you responding to Trustee Zia’s question? – I’m feeling very uncomfortable with this conversation And the reason for that is because I think that the parties to this This is about something that is confidential, that is trying to be discussed in open session Trustee Zia has an obvious interest in this, and I don’t think we should be having this conversation now It’s really a point of order, it’s a point of legal order, and I think she’s trying to gain information, which she has the right to do But she can’t do it if it’s gonna violate confidentially provisions and so I’d ask that we stop this now – [Sunny] I’m sorry Trustee Otto, I respectfully disagree This is out in the public agenda, and the scope is again, opaque, and I’m just trying to understand, what is the scope? – Excuse me, but I think it was said that it was– – [Sunny] Well, what is it? – That it couldn’t be discussed And what if hypothetically it involved you, do you think that that would change this at all? – [Sunny] You know what? I don’t operate on hypotheticals and hearsay and humors Let’s see the facts, whatever specific things you have What is the specific scope of work? It’s my understanding that there’s a $40,000 subcontract built into this,

and I wanna understand what that is for Why can’t we do a direct contract like we did with the former firm? – I can probably weigh in on that So we experienced so much resistance trying to get the initial contract with the first investigator going We approved it in October, and it wasn’t finalized until December There was a three month delay, with one obstruction after another, and this resistance and that, and contracts, and emails, and language It was frustrating We’ve been trying to get on with this show for a long time, but there are certain people who I think, and here’s my opinion This is where Vivian at 11:10 gives an opinion I think people are afraid, and people have things to hide, and they’re trying to obstruct and create resistance, such as this And we’re gonna waste an hour of our evening time talking about the same contract And guess what, I called it already once, I’m gonna call it again This will happen again next month, I’ll go over and over again, and this is happening under my presidency And I try to move on the agenda, because I know that people are up late, and we’re on item 6.17, and we still have to get to item 15 We still have a second closed session, but it’s over and over, and Trustee Zia, the Board made a decision to hire legal council The Board approved the contract The Board made a decision to enter into a contract with an investigator We continue to stand by that There’s nothing shady going on, there’s nothing opaque about it It’s out in the open, it’s transparent The scope of work is there, and yet every single month you keep revisiting it The same questions over and over again I understand that Trustee Baxter brought it up She said she regretted bringing it up, and she wants to move on the agenda, but you continue to ask questions – [Sunny] Trustee Malauulu, aye – [Vivian] Trustee Ntuk is waiting to speak, Trustee Otto is waiting to speak – [Sunny] I think you’re misguided in your assessment I’m just trying to flesh out what it is What we voted on was for 20,000 We didn’t vote to increase it 10 times, and now we’re trying to vote 10 times the amount of what we originally would have I’m just trying to better understand Yes, it is opaque I’m sorry, I still don’t have any specifics And yeah, of course I’m gonna bring it up again until a specificity is provided Not just for the benefit of the Board, but for the benefit of the public I think we need to be more transparent We bloviate a nauseating (muffled speaking) Transparency, and yet when it comes down to it, we have these kind of things embedded in consent agenda, and as subcontractors – Trustee Baxter, Trustee Zia – Can I call for the question again? – Trustee Zia, I’m gonna interrupt you, because you go on and on and pontificate the same point You are misguided, because Attorney Vincent Ewing explained to you that he cannot discuss this – [Sunny] With no basis – Matter – [Sunny] Chair Malauulu, I have no problem I have no problem – He said it’s a confidential matter, and you keep bringing it up – [Sunny] Fury, sanctimony, and bad faith as usual, and common attacks – [Uduak] Point of order – [Sunny] Can I have the floor? – Trustee Ntuk, I recognize your point of order – [Sunny] Okay, let’s vote – No, Trustee Zia, I’m gonna take back over this meeting Trustee Ntuk, I recognize your point of order Go ahead – [Uduak] President Malauulu, we really need you to run this meeting, and part of that is recognizing when a Board member makes a call for a call to question Trustee Baxter did it twice You as the president– – [Sunny] I think she did it once, Trustee Ntuk – No, I did it twice – She just said it again Part of the problem is I’m trying to be fair – [Sunny] Okay, let’s go ahead and vote – [Vivian] Trustee Zia – [Sunny] No, I appreciate that Trustee Malauulu – [Vivian] I would allow Trustee Zia to keep asking her questions, because I actually – [Uduak] Fair, this is not wasting our time – [Sunny] It’s not a waste of time asking about– – [Vivian] All right, Trustee Baxter called for the question – Question’s been called – [Sunny] Yeah, let’s go ahead vote – [Vivian] Madam Secretary – Yes Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Abstain – Virginia Baxter – Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Nay, and I’d like to explain my vote – No explanation is necessary – So we’re gonna move on to item 6.7 – [Sunny] This is how you run things – [Vivian] Yes, this is how I’m gonna run the meeting today Absolutely We have to be respectful of people’s time – [Sunny] Okay, okay No problem – So item 6.7, Vice President Gene Durand I’m gonna defer this to you one more time, so you can just for clarification

– Of course – I’ll go ahead and make that motion on behalf of staff, to approve item 6.7 with the correction If you wanna just reiterate what the correction is – Sure again, and apologies for a clerical error But it’s on page five of six, and it is the academic senate executor officer’s stipend The stipend for Colin Williams is listed on the consent agenda for $6000 The correct amount, which it should be for, is $1,000 – Okay, so I made the motion on behalf of staff Can I get a second please? – Second – We have a motion and a second to approve item 6.7, with the corrections, any discussion? Madam Secretary, roll call vote please – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Moving on to section seven on the agenda, this is human resources This is item 7.1, it is an action item The recommended action is that in anticipation of any potential financial uncertainties, negotiations, legislature, or other factors that the Governing Board hereby declare that all salary rates be declared indefinite for the fiscal year of 2020/2021 for academic employees represented by LBCCFA and CHI, Classified employees represented by AFT, management team employees, and other unrepresented employees as submitted I’ll entertain a second and a motion – [Uduak] Move approval – [Ginny And Doug] Second – We’ve got a motion by Trustee Ntuk, second by Trustee Otto Any discussion? Madam Secretary, roll call vote please – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 7.2 on the agenda, approval of LBCCD and LBCCSA tentative agreement – [Sunny] So moved – Action that the Board of Trustees approve the tentative agreement date of June 30th, 2020, reach between the district and Long Beach City College Association regarding the 2020/2021 reopened negotiations as submitted I’ll entertain– – [Sunny] So moved – [Vivian] And a second – [Jackie] Who made the motion? – [Sunny] I made it, it’s Trustee Zia – [Jackie] Oh, thank you – [Uduak] Second, Trustee Ntuk – Trustee Zia made the motion, Trustee Ntuk seconded Any discussion? Okay I would just like to commend Vice President Gene Durand, and also the negotiating team for LBCCFA on all their hard work We appreciate the fact that we were able to collaborate, and work together, and come to a mutually agreeable agreement So thank you both for that We have a motion and a second, roll call vote please, Madam Secretary – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye, sorry – Motion carries, congratulations to LBCCFA on your new contract I know many of you are tuning in watching, apologies that it’s so late Moving on the agenda, section eight, academic senate This is title five, section 53203 This is an action item, recommended action that the Board of Trustees approve the new modified and inactivated courses effective fall 2021, as submitted So in the interest of time, everything is attached to the agenda on Board Docs, and this falls under Dr Kathy Scott’s purview If anybody has any questions or comments, or not, I’ll entertain a motion – So moved – [Jena] Second, and Student Trustee – [Jackie] Thank you – We’ve got a motion, I believe that was Trustee Baxter, is that correct? – Yes – And a second by a Student Trustee Jimenez, any discussion? – [Jackie] I need a second for– – [Sunny] Second by Trustee Zia as well – [Jackie] Thank you – Second by Trustee Zia Madam Secretary, roll call vote please – Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – You didn’t ask me, but I’m an aye – Oh, I clicked your name Thank you, for the record, Virginia Baxter, aye Thank you – Motion carries Kathy, I apologize, I saw you kind of revving up

Was there something you wanted to highlight for us? – No, I just wanted to be here in case you had any questions The one thing I would highlight is the fact that the faculty in this first document have over 230 courses that they’ve approved for Distance ed modality, which was a massive amount of work on their part And they did this just as they were finishing the spring term And I did wanna thank them There’s hundreds more that will be coming over the summer, and they should be complimented on that work – I agree, thank you very much for highlighting that for us, and thank you to all the faculty who was involved in this curriculum, and developing curriculum that will be used remotely So we do appreciate the hard work, and we recognize it Okay, moving on to item 8.2, new and modified programs of study This is also an action item, recommended action that the Board of trustees approve the new and modified programs of study effective fall 2021 as submitted And this also falls under Dr. Scott If there’s any questions? If not, I’ll entertain a motion and a second – [Sunny] So moved – [Uduak] Move approval – Trustee Zia made the motion, Trustee Ntuk seconded Any discussion? – If I may – [Vivian] Yes – President Malauulu, I did wanna point out just that the, there’s a couple of associate degrees for transfer on here that are really critical and really important One is the associative arts and global studies for transfer, and the other one is the associative arts in social justice And given a lot of the discussion tonight, these are important degrees Right now we just have the general one for social justice But going forward, we can create sub-awards for social justice for African American studies, social justice for Asian American studies, Chicano studies, ethnic studies, gender studies There’s a lot that can go under this So they’re both very broad degrees, and they could be quite life-changing for us So I just wanted to highlight those – Thank you, I appreciate that – [Jena] If I may, President Malauulu – [Vivian] Yes, Jena – [Jena] Kathy, I think that that’s a beautiful thing, and I’m very thankful that we have those detailed types of majors, ’cause I know that certain universities that are particularly progressive in those areas, we really look up to their progressiveness, and recognizing the diversity that we have I appreciate that, thank you – Well and again, it’s the faculty that have done this, and these are both interdisciplinary awards And so faculty across the campus had to work on them together, under the purview of the academic senate, and the curriculum committee, and Dr. Coninck, and she does a wonderful job So thank all of them And thank you for those comments, we appreciate it Jena – [Uduak] Can I ask a question quick? – [Vivian] Yes, Trustee Ntuk – [Uduak] I wanna say this is probably a combination of two years worth of work to get to this point tonight Is that correct? – Yeah, it is Particularly when you have a multidisciplinary degree like that, and people have to come together And who’s doing the SLOs, and who’s doing this, and how’s it gonna work together, and who’s gonna oversee it Yeah, it can be like that But yeah, we’re very proud of this I think there can be, like I said, there’s several awards coming afterwards, and there’s actually, President Malauulu, there’s a labor studies course that can be taught within the social justice degree That would be the purview of the faculty to develop such a course, but it is an option under this And that’s another item And when it’s appropriate, I’d like to raise the Labor Center opening, if I could bring that up at some point But it’s not on this particular item, but it made me think of that, so thank you – Thank you very much Kathy, and definitely the team that is working on these new courses appreciate that Too bad we have to wait a year for them to go into effect It’d be nice if we can do it this fall, right? Okay, did we already do the roll call vote on this, Madam Secretary? – No, no, I’ll do that now Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Moving on to section nine on the agenda, Academic Affairs, item 9.1 This is a first reading, information purposes only, revised Board policy 4011 Scholarship In accordance with established practice, the above revised Board policy has been distributed for review to the president’s leadership council,

and is being presented for first reading The changes are being recommended as a result of our ongoing review to ensure compliance with legal code and align with current practice Again, that’s just a first reading Item 9.2, revise Board policy 4012, statement of academic freedom, also a first reading In accordance with established practice, the above revised policy has been distributed for review I think I could probably skip reading that for the next several– – You bet – And just state the Board policy number and title Is that correct, Madam Secretary? – [Jackie] Yes, that’s for the public’s benefit – All right, sounds okay, okay Oh my goodness, I just lost that screen Why does that always happen? – [Jackie] 9.3? – Yep, hold on one second Let me pull it back up Technology when you need it most Okay Pardon me, here we go Okay, 9.3 I don’t know why my computer screen just glitches out All right, so 9.3 is revised Board Policy 4022, course, repeatability, and credit course repetition Again, first reading Item 9.4, also a first reading Revised Board policy administrative regulations 4028, course credit and credit for prior learning Item 9.5, first reading New Board policy and administrative regulations There is no number there, Madam Secretary, it says 40XX – That’s because it’s a new policy, and once it’s approved, it will be assigned a number – Got it, thank you And then item 9.6, same thing, first reading New Board policy and administrative regulations 40XX, multiple and overlapping enrollments Item 9.7, first reading New Board policy and administrative regulations, 40XX This is for the nursing programs – [Jackie] Correct – Item 9.8 And by the way, if anyone has any comments on these particular items, please interrupt me and stop me if I get to one This is the last one 9.8, new Board policy and administrative regulations, 40XX, work experience, also a first reading Any comments or discussion on any of those items, under section nine, Academic Affairs? Okay, so now we’re moving on the agenda Oh, I’m sorry Kathy – Yeah, I’m sorry Board President Malauulu, before you finish the Academic Affairs section, if I could please I did want to just bring up that we are looking at a virtual opening for the Labor Center And we are working with work force development, our marketing and communications people, and we will be looking to set a date in the near future And I don’t know if our interim Superintendent-President Bynum would like to speak to that, but I did wanna bring that up during my section, thank you – Thank you, Dr. Scott Just to add to that, it was originally scheduled, I think, for January And once the COVID took off, I think everything just kind of came to a stop But we had to get through commencement, we wanted to get through the end of this semester And I know that Josh Castellanos has communicated with my office as well We’ve talked with President Malauulu about targeting perhaps the middle of September after faculty are able to come back and get their classes settled, and all of that But I think we can do a very nice virtual opening, similar to kind of what we did with construction I know that there’ll be some invitation going out, and I think some people have been willing to provide some sponsorship support for that We have some in-kind partners with the Historical Society of Long Beach, and Long Beach Public Library And we’re looking at a little bit of art work to put up I’ve seen some of the window designs, which I think are really nice I think it’s in the MM Building of the Pacific Coast Campus – Yes – So we’ll have more information about that probably by next month Be able to give you some more exact details about that (muffled speaking) – [Ginny] I ask a question? – Yes, Trustee Baxter – Was the faculty involved in the planning of this? Because that was one of my objections, whatever month I objected – I can probably address that, if that’s okay

We did take this item to various shared governance groups, including College Planning Council, President’s Leadership Council It went to our Trades Department meeting, our CTE Department meeting So there was opportunity for input It doesn’t mean that all the decisions were made, I don’t wanna overstate it, but there was the opportunity for input And it has been discussed, also with Academic Council, with is the administration’s meeting with the Academic Senate leadership And there have been some concerns about things like cost, who is going to oversee it And I can’t say that every question has been answered, although we do see it coming under workforce development And it’s starting slowly, having perhaps a few events per semester And it could evolve into something else, but we would have to have faculty involvement, involved beyond that – Okay, thank you – I don’t wanna speak for the Academic Senate I can certainly let them serve, they can speak for themselves I’m just telling you what occurred – Well, thank you for that update, and we look forward to having that item properly agendized and discussed in more detail at the next meeting Okay, moving on to section 10 on the agenda This is administrative and business services, this is a tentative budget It is an action item The recommended action, that the Board of Trustees approve the tentative budget for 2020 to 2021 as submitted There are attachments there for the benefit of the public I’ll entertain a motion as a second Is Bob gonna go through a presentation on this? – I think Bob is gonna introduce it, and it it over to finance director, John Thompson – Precisely, thank you Board President Malauulu, and Superintendent-President Bynum John Thompson, our director of Fiscal services, will deduct this presentation of the tentative budget for 2020 and 2021 John? – [John] All right, thanks Bob, and thank you trustees And we’ll go through the tentative budget presentation for next year You’ll recall in April, Vice President Drinkwine presented a budget study session, and in May gave an update May Revise So some of these things may be similar from those presentations So we’ll try to go through briefly, and get through quite a bit of information quickly But feel free to ask any questions along the way The first couple of slides are just an overview We’ll go through, as noted there, and the next page will go into more detail into the unrestricted general fund Going to the next slide This next section kind of ties in the Board of Trustee goals, as you can see there On the next page, next couple of slides, are the institutional priorities These were developed at a joint meeting by the college planning committee, and the budget advisory committee A lot of the items are similar to prior years, but you’ll see there’s reference to learning from the COVID-19 situation, and enhancing our working remotely, that we’re all dealing with On the next slide, we referenced the strategic plan that is also referenced in the Board Goals And then the next several slides, the rows up at the top reference the board goals, and the institutional priorities And then the items on the side here are initiatives and some of them are grants that are in the tentative budget in the check marks reference, things that address the goals and institutional priorities And we have them categorized on these slides The first slide is grants and funding allocations The next one is student success initiatives,

and you can see some of the items there related to that Next one is student support programs and services, following that is faculty, staff, infrastructure supports, and again distance learning and business process reviews, several of the items listed that are under that category Next slide is marketing committee outreach It is noted there, equitable recruitment, center for community industry partnerships, some of the items included in that list And then the next slide We wanted to highlight, and I think Marlene has pointed this out before, this is a very unusual year as we all know, in a lot of ways, and the state, as well as the Federal Government has postponed tax deadlines to July 15th So it’s very difficult for the state to assess revenues at this point We know the economy has taken a huge hit But as noted here, some of the things that we’re used to in the budget development cycle are a little different this year Like in the medal there, the August revision We don’t typically have an August revision, but that gives the state a chance to assess the state revenue that’s delayed ’cause of those late tax deadlines The next slide Again with the budget development cycle, the tentative budget is required for us to do spending at the start of the next fiscal year, July 1st The tentative budget is based on the Governor’s May Revise budget, which we know the legislature and the governor just came to an agreement for the June budget So there’s different approaches there, but what you’ll see in the tentative budget is based mostly on the May Revise Next slide This is just a reminder, the historical COLAs You’ll see every year, there’s a calculation for the statutory COLA But you’ll see the peach colored lines there are during recessions We quite often are, the COLA is not funded, and that’s one of the typical things that’s done to address state revenue shortfalls The next slide And we’ll just go real quickly over highlights of the state budget Again, this is the May Revise For the Funding Formula, the statutory COLA is 2.31%, and that represent 2.9 million for us No growth was expected for us We’re under hold harmless, under the Funding Formula For he governor’s approach in the state budget to address the projected deficit, that the state was to cut severely the funding, and the Funding Formula And that’s a 10% cut, which amounts to 12.9 million for us So very significant cut The next slide Relating to categorical programs, one of the things that was in the January Budget before COVID hit was a COLA increase to selected categorical programs That was eliminated in the May Revise, also a reduction to Adult Ed program A couple big cuts in the May Revise

were the Strong Workforce Program, which is about a $1.3 million cut for us in this budget The next slide Another big cut was Student Equity Program About 1.12 million cut for us And the governor had several smaller items in the January budget, that due to the economic downturn, are not in the May revise Those are listed there The next slide Some of the things that continued were the California Promise, College Promise, Student Success Completion Grants for financial aid for students One of the things that comes up, unfortunately when we go into recessions is deferrals And in the May Revise, there was proposal for deferrals in the current year we’re in, and then the upcoming budget year, which for us, for the upcoming budget year is 17.4 million So that’s unfortunate, but it’s been done in the past We haven’t had that for about five years, but essentially that’s a apportionment money that we earn, that we won’t be receiving until after the end of the next fiscal year So it creates a definite cash flow problem Next slide With capital facilities in the May Revise, one of our programs was provided funding 1.6 million our construction trades phase two Other items, the Hold Harmless was expanded to two more years, which generally would be good, but in a year like this where there is a huge cut to apportionment, it kind of takes away the Hold Harmless A positive item was the governor provided funding for STRS and PERS, provided a state contribution, which reduces the employer rates for the upcoming year, which is extremely helpful You’ll see on the subsequent slide that the PERS and STRS rates over the next several years continue to go up, but this reduces those increases Next slide Just real quickly on some of the budget assumptions Our FTES target, we’re just trying to increase slightly to get to the goal of 20,000 FTS to get to that large college funding goal for when we are on a Hold Harmless And as noted, the 10% deficit factor that’s on the May Revise, that’s huge Usually, we budget half a percent, so a 10% is huge Next slide This just references some of the categories in our reserves, which is the 5.5% Board Mandated Reserve, and also institutional effectiveness is an additional to get the combination of those up to 50% And then there’s also committed items, like load banking and short term vacation that’s part of reserves Our health and welfare premiums increased by a combined total of 4.3% this year, so that’s the increase there The next slide This is our FTES Comparison from prior years, and the two different bars are, the blue is the funded poll, that’s what we generate apportionment revenue on, then the red bar is the total

So you can see, all colleges are able to shift some of the summer FTS that overlaps fiscals years So that was done in past years, where you could see the difference in the lines there to take it advantage of available growth funding You can see the most recent years, the two bars are the same We haven’t done that shift the last few years And you can also see Doing that slight increase that is our goal to try to get to that 20,000 FTS Next slide This just shows all the funds of the district And we focus on subsequent slides on unrestricted general fund But you can see the toll on the tentative budget, which includes large numbers for our bond funds, ’cause we budget all the approved authorization of both of the bond measures So it gets to a total combined of over 1.1 billion The next slide Here we’ll focus on the unrestricted general fund, our operating fund And for comparison, we show the estimated actual for this year, and then the tentative budget You can see we’re projecting a deficit of two million, but with the 10% cut to apportionment for the budget year, we’re projecting a $14.8 million deficit So that’s a huge swing And the next slides will go into more details of that This just shows the changes throughout the year from our tentative budget for the current year that we’re in, the 19/20 year Our deficits have fluctuated Usually as we get to the end of the year, our deficits decrease, and we’re hopeful that by the time we do our year-end closing, that that will continue to happen, and that we’ll have a better ending than the two million deficit we see right now Next slide This is a breakdown of the total revenue that we saw on the prior slide And you can see the big change there is in state apportionment There’s slight decreases in the other items But on the next slide, we kind of break out what makes up some of those decreases The 10% apportionment cut is the 12.3 million, and then the COLA is a factor going the other way On the state revenue, the governor gave a one-time PERS on-behalf contribution that we have to recognize That was just a one time thing for last year On the next slide we’ll look at a graphical presentation And this shows the breakout on the left side by federal state, local, and you can see apportionment is the big driving factor for our revenue, being almost 90% of our revenue And then to the right, we break out the components of our state apportionment And this is kind of important going into the upcoming year with deferrals proposed If you look at a combination of our local revenue, the property taxes and enrollment fees, it’s a smaller part of that pie, the state apportionment in the EPA that we get from the state That’s about 68% And where that really comes into play is with deferrals We’re more reliant than a lot of districts,

not having as much property tax revenue We’re very reliant on the state general apportionment And so when a huge part of that is deferred, it hits us even more so than it would other districts that have more property tax revenue Next slide Is a breakdown of the expenses, and you can see, actually the overall change is not too bad These expenses don’t reflect any negotiations, the agreement that was approved by the Board today But just showing about a $1.5 million increase is not to bad of an increase, to consider many years we have quite a big increase from one year to the next And then on the next slides, we just go into a little detail about those changes with increases in salaries Some of them are just due to budget savings from the year before Our benefits met out to about the same, but going back to that one time PERS On-Behalf contribution, that’s taken away, so that’s a decrease, but increases to expenses are the existing PERS increase, and also the healthcare cost increases Next slide And then this just goes into a little more detail about some of the other increases, and million dollars on contracts and services, and our one-time funds are going up slightly Next slide And this is just a graphic breakdown of those expenses Of course, being a education service organization, most of our expenses are salary and benefits You can see it’s just under 90%, salaries and benefits On the next slide, we can see over the last seven years, the percentage salaries and benefits have increased for the most part, or staying close to 90% And then we show some other information for historical purposes The surpluses and deficits, and the ending fund balance, which has increased over several years And the percentage also of fund balance Next slide This just shows graphically the percentage of salaries and benefits that we looked at And you can see for most years, it’s right up there in that 90% range Next slide And this is our multi-year projection The column Tentative Budget for this year is just what we looked at in detail You could see near the bottom there the $14.8 million deficit And then it’s always challenging to project out future years, but we just project out the items that we know of I’ll bring to your attention the deficit projected for the subsequent two years, five million and six million, are significant but we just hope that the recovery from this economic downturn is quick, ’cause if you look at the top, we’re looking at 116 million for apportionment, and the 21/22 assumes that we get back to normal, that we don’t have that 10% cut that we have in this budget So hopefully that’ll happen Going forward to the next slide

There’s definitely challenges up ahead It’s very difficult, even more so than usual, to try to predict enrollment We read about factors where students may have difficulties adjusting to online learning, and then we’re not sure of some university students may come to us I think Board members have mentioned that possibility So there’s forces going both ways with enrollment, but it remains to be seen The pension obligations, the governor’s one-time contributions are definitely helpful, but we’ll see on the next slide over the upcoming years, we get some decreases, like for the upcoming year for STRS But in the long run there’s still increases projected for the upcoming years, for our PERS and STRS contributions The next slide is a couple more challenges that we have to deal with going forward Deficit spending is something we’ve been dealing with, and trying to address We’ve projected smaller deficits before, but this budget has a huge, over $14 million deficit And the federal relief moved by the state have definitely been helpful, but it’s still challenging budget times ahead With the student funding formula metrics, there’s been great efforts by a lot of people throughout the college to improve the metrics, the count for Pell students, the degrees and transfers A lot of great has been done, but it’s unfortunate with the huge cut projected for apportionment that kind of wipes a lot of that great work out The next slide is cash flow We mentioned one of the tools that the state uses when they have a projected deficit is cash deferrals, and that’s been used in the past, and we’ve had to do short-term borrowing in the past, and we’re projected to need to do that about 12 months from now if the apportionment revenue is deferred, as is the current plan So we’ll monitor that closely The next slide We mentioned the tentative budget is based on the May Revise, but the legislator and the governor have come together, and they had different approaches The governor’s approach was to show the cuts in the budget, and his hope was to get federal funding, and then be able to reduce those cuts The legislator’s approach was the opposite – [Vivian] John – [John] Yes – John, I apologize for interrupting you during this– – [John] No, that’s fine – Under the Brown Act, we actually have to adjourn the meeting before midnight, and then have to reconvene shortly after midnight, because the meeting is going into a second day So if you don’t mind, because our tech team has to do a couple of things to prepare, I’m gonna pause you’re presentation, and we’ll pick it up right where you left off – [John] Okay – Are you on, and Dario, and everybody on board, for the adjournment? – [Doug] Does this requirement go away if we go into a third day? – We will see, we’ll find out – [Dario] Yes, yes are – Okay, so Dario and Jackie, I just wanna make sure we’re all on the same page Do you want us, everyone to just remain in this meeting, and then adjourn, and then everybody go on hold for about a minute, and then right after midnight I just reconvene?

– Sure, that works – Okay, nobody actually has to exit? – [Jackie] No – All right, well let’s do that It is 11:59 p.m Today is Wednesday, June 24th, 2020 As stated, because of the Brown Act Rules, we do have to adjourn this meeting, but we will reconvene shortly after midnight If anyone is with us, please stay with us, and we will be right back We’re just gonna take a momentary hiatus Thank you, and we are adjourned – [Doug] Happy New Year – [Vivian] I’m gonna give it another probably 20 seconds or so, for it to go into 12:01 a.m. just to be safe Okay, so good late evening, early morning everyone, it is 12:01 in the morning Today is Thursday, June 25th, and we are continuing with our regularly scheduled Board meeting of Wednesday, June 24th We had to adjourn right before midnight, we are reconvening after midnight We were in the middle of a presentation on the 2020/2021 budget, and we will start right back up where we left off Just for the benefit of the public, we are on item 10.1 of the agenda, and we do have a second closed session at the conclusion of our regular agenda So John, thank you for understanding, go ahead, and you can jump right back in where you left off – [John] All right, and we’re actually at the last slide – [Jackie] Oh, I’m sorry Madam Secretary, did we need to do a roll call again, or no? – [Jackie] Is all in favor? – Did we have to a roll call for a reconvening, or did we need to take a vote? – Could I ask if all in favor? Could I ask? – Sure – [Jackie] Say if there’s a nay? Any objection? – No objections – [Jackie] Thank you – All right, thank you Sorry about that John, I apologize again – [John] Oh, no problem at all And yeah, we’re on the last slide here The first section just notes the legislature’s different approach, which avoids most of the cuts, but relies more heavily on deferrals So they project huge amounts of deferrals The COVID-19 expenses, we’re trying as much as possible to keep track of those expenses The federal CARES Act provided us with seven million for institutional expenses, which we have 12 months to spend, going through to next March The big challenges to try to predict the severity and length of the economic downturn, as we mentioned, multi-year projections are difficult any year, but especially this year going forward There’s a lot of talk about different shapes of recovery A V-recovery would be a down in the graph, and a quick upturn The L.A. Times had an article that it may be more like a Nike swoosh that takes two or three years to recover We just don’t know The state will have more revenue information when they do their August Revise, but we’ll just keep track, and we’ll, of course, know more information as time goes on

Any questions related to the budget? – Does anybody have any questions for John? – Yeah, I have lots of questions, but it’s midnight But let me ask you a couple of them, maybe we’ll cut to the chase of this So John, compared to other years, how reliable is the budget planning that we’re engaged in this year? This is not a scientific answer – [John] Reliable? As we mentioned, the tentative budget, we have to have in place for July 1 And we always know that’s mainly based on the May Revision, and then the June budget gets passed, and that changes The June budget will be what the adopted budget in September is based on And this year, things will be delayed even more than usual We’ll have that August Revision that we don’t normally have, and even after that, the information we get from the state on state revenue will probably be waiting for updates through October – My sense of this is that predicting, given the delay in revenues, given tax revenues to July 15, plus the budget that was just adopted, basically to satisfy a legal requirement that the budget be adopted, is almost meaningless, especially when one side of it says, “Well, we’re gonna hope for and base our budgeting “on what we’re gonna get from the federal government.” And I would not quite bet my house, but say that we don’t have a friend in the White House when it comes to giving us a lot of money to satisfy these things It almost seems like crapshoot in terms of what we’re trying to predict, because we’re really not gonna know I mean, we will obviously be able to do something by the time we have to pass the budget But we don’t even know then I think there will be a lot of outstanding things at that point, is that fair? – [John] Yeah, yeah, definitely None of us know what’s gonna happen with the federal money I’ve heard different speculations Some people have said they thought in a election year, some stimulus would probably come through, but we just don’t know, even if it does, the exact nature I don’t know the figures I heard somebody talk about that the original proposal was for three trillion, and they said maybe something like one trillion will come through It’s huge numbers, when you think of nationwide, but that’s a third of what was the original proposal So we don’t know what that’ll mean as far as what our state legislature’s hoping for, and whether it comes to us with some kind of restrictions or not We just don’t know – The only optimistic, or even semi-optimistic numbers that I’ve heard come from people who made those predictions after the bars opened a couple of days ago So I guess hope springs eternal The SCFF, the Funding Formula, we know for sure that in this budget, 12.9 million, it’s gonna cost us that amount of money Nothing’s a fact in this, but that’s kind of where that, that’s what we’re saying right now, is that right? From your presentation – [John] That’s what’s in our tentative budget The agreement that governor and legislature just approved doesn’t do that cut, it just eliminates the COLA

So the combination of those two things would be a $10 million improvement from our tentative budget But they also increase the deferrals by a huge amount, the deferrals and the legislature’s agreement is we estimated 38 million for us, which is over half of our state apportionment, which should be a huge cash flow problem for us Just about every school district in the state would be in the same boat – That was what I wrote next to deferrals, was that there are these huge cash flow issues, which means that we’re now gonna borrow money, or we’re gonna do stuff that’s gonna cost us more money And to be clear, the budget assumptions in your presentation did not include what it is that we’ve agreed to with the full time faculty, is that right? – [John] That’s correct, right – So if we sum that up, is it a 1% change, is it a 2%? I mean, I’m just trying to get some Because we’re trying to make decisions about what to do with subsequent negotiations And I wonder whether what we’ve now done with the full time faculty, how that influences anything that we will be doing in the future with subsequent negotiations Do you have any sense? – [John] I don’t have it right in front of me I think the agreement we estimated it at about 1.3 million, something like that – Yeah Yeah And the CalPERS STRS stuff, they’re giving us some relief But the trend is clear, and it’s been clear for a long time that we’re gonna be paying more And they kind of backed off of it a little bit now I think not only is it a huge issue, almost right away because they’re requiring us to make it work, to contribute this money I think it goes up to about 2022, or something like that, with these huge numbers But it’s an ongoing problem, and we’re really upside down I don’t just mean Long Beach, but the whole system is really upside down I’ve been really the John Morlock stuff, and I don’t completely buy it, and I understand some reasons why I don’t buy it But at the same time, it’s kind of frightening going forward, because those are ongoing obligations that are just kind of being kicked down the road – [John] Right, yeah But when we project to 22/23, the STRS employee rate is over 17%, and the PERS is over 25% – Yeah, yeah, yeah I don’t think we even have a plan at all, how to get to 25%, or even 17%, because they keep kicking it down the road again, and there’s a point at which this becomes like well, what can you do? You can lay people off – [Sunny] Trustee Malauulu, a point of order, has there been a motion and second for discussion? – No, we don’t need a motion or a second – [Sunny] Isn’t this action? – Yes, but I don’t think – [Sunny] This line of questioning, I’d like to call for the vote – Is there a motion on the floor, because– – [Sunny] I’ll make the motion (muffled speaking) – I think it’s kind of ironic that– (muffled speaking) Questioning – [Jackie] Based on the. (muffled speaking) – [Doug] It has nothing to do with the budget – [Jackie] Nothing – So is there a motion on the floor? Because as I understood it, John Thompson, after he concluded his presentation asked if anyone had questions, which is very customary to the way things are after a presentation

So we are able to ask questions, which is what I believe Trustee Otto was doing But if somebody would make a motion, then we can certainly – [Sunny] Yeah, I made the motion It’s been 15 minutes since Trustee Otto has been asking his live questioning And earlier, I was accused of pontificating, and I don’t see why nobody else is objecting But we just need to move this meeting along We’re on item 10.1, and we’ve got a litany of things to get though – I thought you set the standard Sunny, Trustee Zia Isn’t that what we’re supposed to do? – [Sunny] Excuse me? – [Doug] Nevermind, nevermind – [Sunny] I’m sorry, I can’t hear you Your voice is not clear It’s a quarter after midnight, Trustee Otto – So my last question John is, I thought we were working really hard to get our FTESs up to 20,000 Even this year we had a plan, and we were trying to do that, because we get more money if we’re a big college, or a big district And we just kind of resigned ourselves to being 19,993, or whatever that number was, it’s based on we’re not gonna get that extra money, is that right? – [John] No Being in the Hold Harmless status, we don’t have to worry about that change But the goal is still, and we’re very close to the 20,000 So the goal is still to achieve that And the goal was, once we were out of Hold Harmless, which was coming up very soon, but now Hold Harmless has been extended two more years – Yeah, okay Okay I get that, and by the way, I think Josh and Mike have done a great job in terms of trying to keep us moving in that direction So anyway, those were my questions – Thank you Does anybody else have any additional questions for John? Okay, so this is an action item, and we’ll entertain a motion and a second, either to approve the tentative budget or not – [Sunny] I made the motion, Trustee Malauulu, it just needs a second – Trustee Zia has made the motion to approve the tentative budget, is there a second? – I second it – Trustee Otto seconded, any discussion – By the way, aren’t we required to have a tentative budget by July 1st? – Yes, we are All right, seeing no discussion Madam Secretary, roll call vote please – [Jackie] Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Moving on to item 10.2, this is a resolution action item, cash flow borrowing from the Los Angeles County Treasurer The recommended action is that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420C to authorize short-term borrowing of up to 119.9 million from the Los Angeles County Treasurer as submitted I’m entertain a motion and a second – [Doug] So moved – [Ginny] Second – We have a motion and a second on the floor And I have a question, I know Marlene is not here, so John this will go to you Can you very briefly just explain for the benefit of the public and me why we have to borrow $120 million from the County? I know that we see this from time to time, but can you give a very brief explanation? – [John] Sure This is annual item In order to do borrowing, we have this item and the next item, I believe, is interfund borrowing And in order to be able to do that, the Ed Code says we need to pass a resolution before the fiscal year we do that So we do these two resolutions every year Borrowing from the County is something we haven’t done, but it’s just a tool that we wanna have available in case we get into a dire situation The next item, the interfund borrowing, we did do that back in the years after the Great Recession We did have to borrow from our other funds, and do the tran-financing to make sure we could make cash flow, due to the deferrals

– Is there any issue with borrowing from the county given the crazy status of everything now? We can approve it, but can they say, “Sorry, we don’t have the money, or not,” or is that just crazy? – [John] Not that I’m aware of It’s something we haven’t had to do for the past 11 years But I think it’s still an option I haven’t heard of a district being denied, but I just don’t know either way – [Doug] Okay – Thank you very much, I appreciate that We’ve got a motion and a second, any additional discussion? All right, Madam Secretary, roll call vote please? – [Jackie] Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion caries Item 10.3 is another action item This is a resolution cash flow temporary interfund cash borrowing Recommended action, that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420D to authorize short term borrowing between funds, up to 23.2 million as submitted Is there a motion and a second? – [Doug] So moved – [Ginny] Second – We have a motion by Trustee Otto, second by Trustee Baxter Any discussion? Thank you for the previous clarification, John And roll call vote, please – [Jackie] Jena Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 10.4, another action item Resolution agreement with California Department of Education State Preschool Program The recommended action is that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420E, authorizing the district to enter into grant agreement, contract number 93192.6, with the California Department of Education as submitted Motion and a second, please? – [Doug] So moved So moved – Wake up, everybody – [Uduak] Second – We’ve got a motion by Trustee Otto, Second by Trustee Ntuk Any discussion? Madam Secretary, roll call vote, please? – Jena Jimenez? – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries I think we should have had like a stretch break when we had the temporary adjourned (muffled speaking) Item 10.5 is another action item, resolution agreement with California Department of Education for, did I just do that one? – No, you’re right – Department of Education for Childcare, it’s late Recommended action that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420F, authorizing the district to enter into grant agreement contract number 93192.7 with the California Department of Education as submitted Is there a motion and a second? – [Ginny] So moved – [Doug] Second – [Jena] Second – Okay, I believe that was Trustee Zia with a motion, is that correct? – [Ginny] No, Baxter (muffled speaking) – Trustee Baxter with the motion – [Jackie] And Otto – Second? – Otto – Any discussion? Roll call vote, please – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 10.6, resolution, liability on worker’s compensation coverage for volunteers This is another action item Recommended action that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution number 062420G, adapting and declaring for the purpose of Worker’s Compensation Liability Insurance That persons authorized to perform volunteer services shall be deemed an employee of the district, as submitted I’ll entertain a motion and a second – [Ginny] So moved – [Doug] Second – We have a motion by Trustee Baxter,

second by Trustee Otto Any discussion? Roll call vote please – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 10.7, resolution of intent, to resend Siemens as the standard for EMS and DDC equipment And designate Trane as the EMC DDC equipment standard This is an action item Recommended action, that the Board of Trustees adopt resolution of intent number 062420H, authorizing the district to resend Siemens as a standard for EMS and DDC equipment, and designate Trane as the EMC/DDC equipment standard as submitted – Motion and a second please – [Ginny] So moved – We’ve got a motion by Trustee Baxter, a second by Trustee Otto Any discussion? Roll call vote please – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries, item 10.8, institutional membership 2020 to 2021, action item This is a recommended action that the Board of Trustees authorize approval of district institutional memberships from 2020/2021 There is an attachment to the agenda on Board Docs for the benefit of the public, with the listing of our institutional membership I’ll entertain a motion and a second, please – [Ginny] So moved – [Doug And Jena] Second – Motion by Trustee Baxter I believe Trustee Zia seconded, is that correct? – [Sunny] No – [Jena] Student Trustee, sorry – Student Trustee, and then Trustee Otto for the official Roll call vote, any discussion? Roll call vote, please? – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 10.9, five year construction plan for 2022 to 2026, this is an action item Recommended action, that the Board of Trustees approve the annual submission of the District’s five year construction plan for 2022 to 2026, and authorize the interim superintendent-president of the district to sign the formal documents that authorize action on behalf of the district as submitted Motion and a second please – [Sunny] So moved – [Vivian] Motion– – [Doug] Second – Trustee Zia, second by Trustee Otto, any discussion? Roll call vote, please – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Vivian, excuse me Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – [Jackie] Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries, item 10.10, initial project proposals, this is an action item Recommended action, that the Board of Trustees approve the initial project proposals for LAC Building D renovation, and PCC classroom building as submitted Motion and a second please – [Uduak] So moved – We’ve got a motion by Trustee Ntuk, and a second, I didn’t catch that? – Trustee Otto (muffled speaking) Second, any discussion? I have a question, it says PCC Classroom Building, but it doesn’t say which building Is that an intentional omission, or should there be a building designated for that motion? It says on the attachment, “Building IPP.” – [Jackie] I’m trying to open it – Is Walter still with us – Sorry Hi, can you hear me, this is John Duong with BMT Yeah, so that name matches the state name for state funding purposes For whatever reason, that’s how it was written And this IPP is the same IPP that you saw last year, it’s just being rolled over so we hold our spot in line, just in case state funding is available in the future (chattering) – One particular building? – [Ginny] Is that the FF? – Oh, so the building that is actually alluding to is OO

– Got it – [John] Yes – Okay, Madam Secretary, is there a way that that could be amended to say that’s it’s for building OO, because it says for LAC Building B, but then it says PCC Classroom building, but it doesn’t say OO – I was gonna open the attachment that was (muffled speaking) Okay, I will make that note and add that – All right, we’ve got a motion and a second Any additional discussion or question? Okay, roll call vote, please – Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – [Jackie] Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – [Jackie] Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Nay – Motion carries, four-one vote And thank you John for that clarification And that motion carries with the amendment that it will be designated as building OO – Yes – Item 10.11, bond contract award This is another action item, recommended action that the Board of Trustees authorize vice president business services, or designee, to answer into, and execute the bond contract award as submitted Motion and a second? – [Doug] So moved – [Sunny And Uduak] Second – We’ve got a motion by Trustee Otto, second by Trustee Zia Any discussion? Roll call vote please – I’m sorry, could you repeat the motion? Motion by Trustee Zia, second by Trustee Otto – Okay, thank you Student Trustee Jimenez – [Jena] Aye – [Jackie] Virginia Baxter – [Ginny] Aye – Vivian Malauulu – [Vivian] Aye – Uduak-Joe Ntuk – [Uduak] Aye – [Jackie] Doug Otto – [Doug] Aye – Sunny Zia – [Sunny] Aye – Motion carries Item 10.12, the 2019/2020 second and third quarter, labor compliance and community, student workforce participation agreement CSWPA monthly report for the period of October 2019 to March 2020 This is an information item only There are attachments there to the agenda on Board Docs for the benefit of the public And that concludes section 10 on the agenda, which is administrative and business services We are going to section 11 on the agenda, student services 11.1, the CARES Act funds and non-eligible students update So both items under section 11 fall under the purview of Dr. Mike Muñoz, so I will defer to him for 11.1 – Thank you, thank you very much I’ll be brief, I wanna just make sure we provide the Board with an update on the disbursement of our emergency student aid I know there’s been questions about students who were excluded initially by the regulations coming out of the U.S Department of Education, from the CARES Act, and how we responded in support of those students In particular, specifically our dreams And so I’m gonna provide with just a quick update, an oral report on some of that data And so what we’ve been able to do in support of students who were disqualified from receiving care funds, is we’ve leveraged some of our Student Equity and Achievement Program resources to provide emergency student aid, for both our undocumented students, students who may have been disqualified as a result of not meeting SAP requirements, as well as our non-credit students Because as you know, our non-credit students aren’t essentially enrolled in financial aid programs and majors, and so they were excluded as well And so, so far we’ve been able to support roughly about 104 dreamers with direct student aid, and so that means about 104 students received $500 in emergency aid grant We’ve also, for our non-credit students, we’ve been able to support 40 non-credit students with emergency aid awards at $250 each And so that’s been the concentration of some of our efforts Apart from the emergency aid grant model, as you know, we do provide support in access with laptop support, as well as through food, and housing, and securities with some of our additional resources and basic needs So providing students who might have not been eligible to receive CARES Act funding, with access to grocery gift cards, or access to grocery bags through our Viking Vault Grab-n-Go Program And so that’s just kind of a quick summary In terms of our students who are receiving CARES Act resources, we have been successful in awarding close to $3 million in CARES Act funding, so we are approaching the halfway mark of our allocation

We will continue to award emergency aid grants through the summer So we are awarding students who are enrolled in six units or more, that are Pell eligible, with emergency aid grants for the summer as well And so that will leave us a little less than half the allocation that we were initially awarded for fall and then also into spring And so we are on track to disburse all those funds that we’ve received that we’re required to disburse within one year of receipt of funds And so that concludes my report and update on the emergency student aid funds, both through the CARES Act, and for those that are non-CARES Act eligible – Thank you very much And you also have item 11.2, the College to Career Program update Go ahead and take it away, Dr. Muñoz – Thank you I know this item came before the Board last month, and there were some questions, and some additional questions came my way As we know also, there was some significant public comment tonight So I wanna provide the Board with just a brief background of why the decision was made, and the decision was made to get us to the place where, to move the program from the foundation to the college, and then maybe just clarify some of the things, some question the Board may have with regarding the transition So first and foremost, just to communicate with the Board, as stated earlier, some concerns were brought forward to myself about the C2C program specifically And to the concerns that were brought forward, that triggered some conversations with the foundation And so as you know, the C2C program, as well as the College Support Program is considered a foundation program And so I worked very closely with then executive director Elizabeth McCann to kind of start to talk about some of the issues and concerns that came forward One of the issues that came forward was regarding some questions and concerns around services being billed for a particular student who was not, according to the parent, provided services And so from that, working with the foundation, there was a determination to bring a third party to come in and assist us with reviewing the program And so through that third party review of the C2C Program and the College Support Program, out of that came some recommendations and some findings And so there was several issues that were identified in the management of the program, as well as several billing errors, as well as some other issues From there, in conversations at that time with the executive director, many of the issues that needed to be addressed that were identified in the report What was communicated to me is the foundation at that time did not feel they had the capacity to provide the administrative oversight That was really kind of required and needed to address some of those internal controls, and some of those issues that were identified in that review of the program And so then that information was presented at cabinet at the time, with the previous superintendent-president And we had a discussion at cabinet, and at that point it was determined that it made sense to have the program transition over to the college, to the college side of the house, where we could provide that administrative oversight and support That was where there was those gaps that were identified in the review And so essentially, that’s kind of what lead us to this place I definitely want to acknowledge and understand where the C2C staff are coming from I can imagine that this transition is very difficult, and obviously putting myself in anyone’s shoes as well, that’s understandable to have to apply for a position, especially a position that you previously have held for quite some time But I wanna kind of clarify and explain a few things that have transpired And there are things that I’m not saying are out of our control, but essentially when the decision was made to move the program from the foundation to the college, that then put in motion several things And one of the key things was how to transition staff Being that we are a personnel commission district We follow the personnel commission rules And so when we looked for a job description, we went through our personnel commission process to identify a job description that closely align with the roles and responsibilities that were previously being conducted by the educational coaches And so that was determined through our process, working with the personnel commission, that the job descriptions that we’ve identified, although they’re not an exact match, they closely align with the job duties that are being performed by educational coaches And that job description was approved by the personnel commission, as well as those job descriptions

were submitted to the Harbor Regional Center, which through our application process for vendorization, they also approved those job descriptions, and agreed that those job descriptions satisfied and met the roles that they were being required to satisfy And so from there, like I said, that’s essentially how we landed at that particular job description One of the other things I wanna kind of clarify is because this is a position that’s on the district side of the house, many of our positions are written with minimum qualifications, but very rarely does the college hire at the minimum qualification standard That’s just the floor And so, like I said, if you look through min-quals, many of the min-quals, most people who are hired exceed minimum qualifications And so just to give some context, we are in the process of conducting the search, and we’ve identified folks that will be offered positions And just to give you context, of the pool of candidates that we’re looking at to hire into these roles, four have master’s degrees, one is in process of earning their master’s degree, two have BAs, and only one has an AA degree But the one that has AA degree has previous work experience with the C2C program So you can see the caliber of folks that we’re hiring into these roles exceed the minimum qualifications And so I just wanna clarify that as well, that the minimum qualifications are set through our personnel commission, but as we hire into these positions, we’re being very mindful of that And then again, the starting salary range is slightly lower than what was previously a starting salary in the program But just like we have a starting salary range, we have steps and columns And so what we know is the hire part of the range was up to 21.42, which exceeds that minimum step So first step I’m very conscious, as we would be bringing people into the program, that determination of our folks are placed in the salary step, is oftentimes based on your previous work experience So folks with previous work experience supporting students in the C2C program or other like programs, that would be given consideration when we’re placing them in the salary step to make sure that it’s competitive So again, those are just some of the key pieces that I think had questions asked of me, and I wanna kind of clarify So again, in summary, much of the decision that lead us to this place in moving the program from the foundation side to the college side was very much driven by some of the issues that were identified through that third party committee of the program, as well as the foundation at the time communicating that they did not feel they had the capacity to provide the administrative oversight needed to address many of those issues And so that’s kind of what lead us to we’re at And as far as why these particular job descriptions were selected Again, we went through our process of working with the personnel commission and human resources to identify the positions that most closely align with the job duties, as well as we worked with the Harbor Regional Center, and submitted all of those for approval So hopefully that helps answer any questions that folks may have about the program And I’ll stop there, thank you We know it’s late, so thank you for bearing with me – [Sunny] Chair Malauulu, I have some questions – [Ginny] Yeah, I have a question, but go ahead Sunny – [Vivian] Yes, go head Trustee Zia Thank you, Dr. Muñoz – [Mike] Thank you – [Sunny] Thanks Mike, appreciate the background, especially since you referred to history with the former and second director of the foundation, and what lead to this juncture My question is, have we broached the topic with the new foundation executive director? Have we tried to work with Paul Kaminski, rather than taking over? I know the process was underway with our previous superintendent, and a previous executive director of the foundation I’m still not hearing any compelling reasons why we can’t reexamine this, and make sure that we’re not displacing workers who are getting termination notices So I’d like to understand that better, if you can help clarify that for me, and answer those questions – No, thank you, those are really good questions So just to provide some context, the decision to move the program took place prior to the arrival of Paul Kaminski So that was kind of underway when he arrived The conversations that have occurred with Paul

have really actually been around advocating for the extension of the program So we actually, on the contract, was approved at the last Board meeting And yesterday, we had a meeting with Harbor Regional Center, and so we’ve gotten approval to execute the agreement with a start date of July 1st Paul has brought forward some repress from the staff, as well as some of my team as well, making recommendations that we considered delaying the transition of the program to the middle of August, so that we don’t create any disruption while the students are in summer school Obviously, that recommendation was supported by myself, and my team as well, and we had conversations with the Harbor Regional Center about delaying that But as far as having a conversation with Paul in terms of not moving the program over to the college side of the house, that didn’t occur, because again, the determination to move the program had already decided at the cabinet with our previous superintendent-president supporting that decision So that was not something that was explored with Paul – [Sunny] So you’re saying we can’t reexamine that, since we have a new interim superintendent-president? Is that something we can explore? – I wouldn’t know at this point, given the fact that agreement has already been executed I don’t know if I’d have the authority to answer I think at this point– – [Sunny] Okay Maybe someone else can help answer that, because we have new players, and I think it’s worth looking at Especially with the amount of objections we’ve gotten on this Just to make sure that we’re really supporting our students, and our most vulnerable students and disabled students – No, Trustee Zia I haven’t talked to Paul directly about it, but we communicated a little bit I think one of the biggest concerns, and I think it’s a valid concern, is that a program like this has some responsible and pretty specific administration, and has got all the things that we do here at the college in terms of our invoicing, our tracking and monitoring, and such The foundation isn’t really set up to do those kinds of things I’m not vested one way or the other right now, but I do think it’s better for the program, ultimately, to be part of the college The foundation is not set up to run programs like that I think under the purview of Dr. Muñoz, in that area, will be able to do the things that we should be doing, tracking and monitoring, and making sure that the services that are rendered are actually rendered, and that we can account for that And I think ultimately we’ve got resources also at the college that will be able to help the students, if they’re isolated in the program and the foundation I’m not saying that that wasn’t good, and they didn’t get services, but we’re a large college with extensive services that those students can take advantage of – [Sunny] I understand that it was under the foundation for how many years? And we’ve had quite a number of student workers in that program that may be displaced and at risk, and it’s concerning to me These folks, that’s their only source of income as students – Look, just to share some context, and I know that not everybody in public comment chose to apply that picture comments When the position during the process that was open, we did have two existing program staff members choose to apply I said we’re getting close to the point, we’re finalizing this process, so I don’t wanna over-speak here But I think for those that chose to apply, it will work out for them Now there was individuals that chose not to apply, and so that’s a different situation But for those staff members that did apply to move over into the program, that is not going to be an issue for them to be able to transition and continue with the program And so I just want to hopefully maybe put your mind at ease – [Sunny] How long was this with the foundation, under the foundation? – I believe since 2011, I’d have to double check, so please don’t quote me on that – [Sunny] It’s almost 10 years and it was working, they had the capacity to run it So I guess it’s a little bit confounding to me how we’re saying they can’t run the program now, based on some previous issues

that it seems like we can resolve I’m just of the mindset, if it’s working, it’s not broken, do we have to address it and fix it? It’s been a very thriving program for the foundation – [Ginny] Sunny, I have some questions too, and it seems like you’re philosophizing – [Vivian] Trustee Baxter, go ahead – [Ginny] Okay, just a couple of things First of all, I’m glad to hear that you’re delaying until mid-August But is the same person who is running the program now going to be the person who’s running the program when the district takes it over? – So currently we have Alison Brown serving – [Ginny] Right, I didn’t wanna say her name, but go ahead, yeah – Yeah, ’cause that’s public information, right? She’s the current director We will go through a process to hire a director for the program, and at this point I can’t say whether it will be her or not, because we’re going through a process But obviously, she’s been our current director, and we would hopefully encourage her and see, and wanna support her application in applying But at this point I can’t really speak to that, because we’re not that far along in this process – [Ginny] Okay, secondly, why were these people not hired as professional experts? – Why they were not hired as professional experts? – [Ginny] Yes, like you hire coaches for the football team – Sure I’m gonna weigh in a little bit, and I may defer to So let me kind of share what my understanding is When we started these conversations, we engaged initially in working with human resources And our first person we were working with at the time was Caroline before her leave And so us working with Caroline, it was kind of in having conversations and really looking at job duties, it felt like duties closely align more with this particular job description, which falls under our collective bargaining agreements, as well as the personnel commission And I think probably the desire was because these were going to be ongoing positions where some of the professional experts are seasonal You kind of come in and out The thought was that we would not, at this position, because it really is an ongoing 12-month position, it fell under the personnel commission, on the set of job descriptions And so I think that’s kind of why we landed there I think we did not, I’ll just be really blunt, we didn’t wanna seem like we were circumventing the contract, or circumventing the personnel commission processes I mean, that’s kind of why we landed where we landed And again, that was through support and guidance with human resources – Okay, who did the study? Was it an outside expert? – Yes, so we work with Bob Rapoza’s office, and I think Bob may still be on the line So I don’t know who the individual was, I never met the individual But the idea was, because some of the concerns that were identified had fiscal implications, let’s just say, that they brought in an individual to come in and review the program, who has experience in auditing programs – Okay Who paid for that? – I’m not sure, I would have to direct that question to Bob So Bob, are you on the line– – [Bob] I am – [Mike] I’m not sure of the funding, if that came from the foundation side, or the college side for– – I’m telling you, there isn’t money in that program for this, and that’s why I’m asking if the district the paid to have an expert do the study – [Bob] So Ginny, what we did at the time was, I was transitioning from being the internal audit manager to my current position I normally would have done the study, but instead we brought back Paddy Davis, who was the former director – No, I know who Patty Davis is Okay, and what does your expertise to deal with a program that deals with disabled students? So was she only looking at things, from a fiscal point of view? – [Bob] Right, she was looking at things from a fiscal and contractual point of view She was reviewing the transactions that were taking place The backup that was being provided, because the initial complaint revolved around services being billed that were never received So that was the initial cause of it And then from there, we also took a look at business practices, which lead to a series of recommendations including restructuring the program, and bringing it under the district – I think this is fascinating, because in all the time that I ran this program,

we never had such an allegation made – Ginny, can I ask you a question, if you don’t mind? I know that this is an information item only, but I took a particular interest, only because I happen to know the person who initiated the audit We will all get copies of that audit, I requested them last week You signed, and you entered into an agreement to take this program in 2011 Did the executive Board of the foundation approve that? – No, that is an excellent question – ‘Cause I was looking for minutes on that, and I could never find any minutes that showed that the executive director approved that I did find a contract that you signed to take over that program, but there was no executive board of the foundation approval No minutes – You’re probably right, Vivian But I have to tell you, you’re implying that the executive committee applied every contract I mean, we had contracts for grants, they probably didn’t approve the Goldman Sachs They just never were approved – So that means that you entered into a contract, and I’m only thinking about this Board I think about our Board That would be like Lou Anne Bynum entered into a contract without her bosses approving it Because basically, you’re the executive director, and you answer to a Board So if you’re entering into contracts, and the Board is not approving it, they don’t know about it So let me ask you a couple more questions, ’cause this was brought up – Which by the way, they did know about it, but anyway – Okay, well I couldn’t find any minutes, and I looked So another question that I have, and this is nothing on you, I just wanna understand the process So as my understanding, and correct me if I’m wrong, but my understanding is that the foundation’s job is to raise money, right? Their job is simply to raise money Do they run– – No Their job is to support the college – Correct, but they’re raising money Do they run any other program, like a DSPS program? Because I would think that a program that serves students would best fall under the district, under student services Keep everything tight, keep everything in house So I don’t know if the foundation actually runs another student service– – Well, they run the scholarship program, and they pay for it – Is that like student support services, like something DSPS, or EOPS, one of those categorical type of programs, or is that just– – Well, yeah, it’s a division under the student services – Distributing money, okay And then the other question that I wanted to know, because I did ask this question with the audit So the audit was conducted for only one fiscal year, 2018/2019, just one year, and the independent auditor found a multitude of mistakes in one year – After I left – Hours that were reported, hours that were not, services that were billed, people that were overpaid There was no justification of time So it blew my mind that this one year audit exposed so many problems, and I wanted them to actually to an audit going back to 2011 But the issue was funding, they said here’s no point, there’s already a new change, there’s a transition, and it was actually the recommendation of the audit The last paragraph of the audit, the independent auditor, it’s just like when we have an accreditation The independent auditor actually recommended that this program go to the district, that the foundation was not qualified, did not have the proper support staff, did not have the background to run a program for DSPS students So the recommendation of the Independent auditor was that this program go to the district, where they do have sufficient staff They also found some additional problems in the audit in terms of some of the employees being 1099 This is a little bit over my head, but these were independent contracted employees that the foundation ended up having to absorb, which put the foundation in a position of liability, having them have to pay these employees health benefits So the 15% that you were getting off the top for running this service, actually was going to paying for health services So there was really very little net gain Whereas the district already has the insurance, and the health benefits And I think that all the wonderful people who submitted

the public comments earlier, several hours ago I’ve read ’em, because we received copies of their printed comments I think they’re fantastic I would encourage all of them to apply, because some of them said how much they loved the job A few of them said how much they loved the students I did write down some comments that I felt were a little questionable that I’m gonna follow up on, because one person made a comment, and it just kinda. (muffled speaking) But that’s different But they can all apply If they loved the job so much, they’ll actually have more job security, they’ll actually have better opportunity working for the district And the previous executive director, the current executive director, they have an opportunity to apply for a program that I think, and I’m going out on a limb here A few months from now, we’re gonna get an updated report, and let’s see how things have improved I know that Dr. Mike Muñoz, when he took over student services, he had done, and again, we’re talking about personnel issues here But you had a lot of messes, and a lot of fires to clean up Ad there was resistance, because people were used to a certain way of things being done, and people were used to Everybody had status quo mentality You went in there, you shook things up You changed it, you cleaned things up And within six months you were giving us reports of how much student financial aid was being disbursed that hadn’t been claimed You were giving us information about other student support services that you run I can’t wait to see you do the same thing for the C2C program So I’ve taken a particular interest to this, because, like I said, Dr Romali and I were walking, well, I didn’t say it, but one of the speakers said Dr. Romali and I were walking on campus, she happened to be there, and she called her, and next thing you know, she’s Diana Chavez Fipel, who did submit a comment She’s a strong advocate for her daughter She’s the reason why we had the audit, because her daughter, as a client, was being billed for services that were never rendered She hadn’t even been accepted into the program So this is a problem that’s been going on I wish we can audit it back to 2011 I wanna see an audit back to 2011 Unfortunately, we only have one year’s worth of an audit But again, everybody who is asking for They can reapply And if they are as qualified as they are, and they have the background, and the experience, why wouldn’t they be hired? And why wouldn’t they want to improve on the program? And why wouldn’t they want to strengthen it? So anyway, that’s just my opinion, Ginny, and then you and I can have – Let me just respond to– – Another conversation about it some other time – That program was audited by Guzman & Gray And that’s why I’m telling you the executive committee knew about it Because one member of the executive committee questioned the Harbor Regional Program So it was audited while I was there You just said it didn’t have an audit Did have an audit by an accounting firm – [Sunny] Can I just ask, the audit that Trustee Malauulu is referring to, what year was that? – I’m gonna say that was conducted in, I think around June 2019 Go ahead Bob, do want to in? – [Bob] Well, you got it right on the nose, Mike It was June 2019, and it covered the fiscal year of 2018 to 19 – [Sunny] Okay Is it appropriate for us to disclose the student’s name that was the, brought up issues? I mean, is that a matter of public information? – Disclose the student name, I disclosed the parent who submitted a statement – [Sunny] Okay, sorry I thought– – [Vivian] It was the parent – [Sunny] Even the parent, is that even appropriate for us? – She submitted under public comment – [Sunny] Okay, I got you – [Vivian] Submitted under public comment – And then one last thing, and then I promise I’m through Has anybody thought about the fact, if these people file for unemployment with the foundation, it’s gonna cost them a lot of money – That’s a great point, and that’s another reason Now listen, I don’t wanna speak for Paul Kaminski, or Liz McCann I would never do that I invite every single person right now, I’m looking at this screen, there are 25 participants, plus however many are tuning in watching at home I can’t imagine anybody tuning in right now, but for 52 people watching from home I invite the 25 participants and the 52 viewers to contact both Paul Kaminski, the current executive director of the foundation, and Liz McCann, the previous executive director, and ask them

Because I did, I asked them, “Do you want this program under the foundation? “What are the benefits, what are the disadvantages?” Now, I’m not gonna tell you what they said, but I am gonna tell you there tends to be an agreement that a student support services for DSPS should fall within the purview of the district, that it should not be with the fundraising body of the college that’s there to raise money They’re not equipped to cover it I understand there was a different audit that was done Ginny, I don’t know if it’s the same audit that you’re referring to, but there was another audit I was the trustee who was represented As vice president of the Board, I actually attended those executive committee meetings for the foundation So I was there, and I asked questions This was all happening around the same time I was the representative of the Board from 2017 to 2019 And I attended all but one meeting There’s only one meeting that I couldn’t attend, and I went to every single meeting I have a copy, I asked the questions, and the general consensus is that this program should belong to the district The district didn’t want it at the time, I don’t know, it doesn’t matter But at the time where they were approached, they didn’t have the manpower, they didn’t have the organization, they didn’t have the vision of the potential And one person did, and one person thought it was a great program, and we should do it, and I agree I think it is a great program I think the college missed a great opportunity to have this program from the start And then you had it, which was great, and then things happened The program grew It evolved, and the adequate support for students, and then there were discrepancies, and things happened So fortunately, I’m always afraid when I think of all the people who don’t speak up, who don’t advocate, who don’t know to open up statements and read Fortunately, we have one parent of one of our students who does check her mail, who does read, who does ask questions And next thing you know, we go down a rabbit hole that we can’t control And it was because of her that somebody said, “You know what, “we need to look into this a little bit more.” I don’t know whose idea it was to conduct the audit, but whoever that person, we appreciate that Because if there’s a problem, we need to fix it Now, I understand the people who were working in that department, that was their job They had a good thing going It’s not fair to them that they don’t know that they’re out of compliance, or things are happening It’s above their pay grade, and they don’t understand, they’re not privy to that So I understand the insecurity that they face But reapply, things will be better, it will be done right And hopefully the same people who professed to loving the job and caring about the students, and they’re not doing it for the wrong reasons, hopefully they’ll be the same people who maintain, stay in the same position – [Sammy] Trustee Malauulu, did you say that you talked to Paul Kaminski, and he’s not supportive of keeping it in the foundation? ‘Cause that was my question, and I don’t think either– – I spoke to Paul Kaminski today, which was on a Wednesday – [Sunny] Okay – Spoken to Liz McCann a few times in the past few months, when the audit was happening, I called out to her, because she was there when the problems started But what I did say, is that I don’t wanna speak for them What I did say is that I invite everybody who’s in this meeting, and everybody viewing at home to ask them – [Sunny] That’s a good question, that was my question for staff, is that, can we ask them, and then come back to the Board, so that we know where they stand on new leadership? That was pretty much where I was going at, but I don’t hear that that’s been done So maybe we can provide that information, get answer on that front– – I was actually under the impression that Paul was going to be submitting a statement to Lou Anne For whatever reason, it didn’t happen, but I was lead to believe that there would be a statement Lou Anne said she didn’t receive one, I don’t know what happened But I mean, it’s not a secret, I’m not doing anything– – [Sunny] No problem, I think it’s a valid point Let’s give him the opportunity, and just move on from this item if it’s okay with the Board, and get this point of information for the benefit of the Board or the public And if they don’t really wanna do this, that just settles it – Yeah, I agree with you, and I wish that we had a statement from him, as I was told that we would But maybe we’ll get something We could get something post, right Lou Anne? If you receive something, you’ll share it with the Board?

– Yes – [Sunny] I don’t know if you can follow up – I’ll talk with him tomorrow – [Sunny] Thank you, I appreciate that – [Lou Anne] The entire Board – [Sunny] And I really appreciate the discussion you guys, and the background and history that I wasn’t aware of, both Ginny, and Vivian, and Mike Mike, you were trying to say something, I’m sorry – No, I don’t wanna interrupt you at all I just wanna kinda just remind the Board and clarify that the Board did take action at the last Board meeting and ratified the contract between HRC and the district We’ve already entered into an agreement with them So I don’t know exactly where that leaves us in terms of response-ing, but at this point, that has already been ratified and approved – [Sunny] Yeah, but we can relook at it, if there’s amplified there, but it doesn’t sound like there is So let’s just confirm that – Okay, one thing I wanna say before we do move on the agenda, is I would like to thank the foundation And the reason why I didn’t do this at the main meeting, is because I knew that there still had to be one more meeting pending between the district and the Regional Occupational Center So I didn’t wanna speak too soon, and I wanted to make sure that everything happened as was expected But I do wanna ake an opportunity to thank the foundation for the nine years that they did run this program I would like to thank the foundation and the, I’m hesitant to use the word employees, because I know that there were some classification issues there But to the staff of the C2C program for their service And in no way is the district turning its back on you In no way are we not grateful for your service We understand that some of you were very committed to your jobs, and you loved your jobs And likewise with the foundation for the support that they did provide And I know that at times, it was probably I was there, I was in those foundation meetings, so I heard the commentary back and forth, and I saw the line item on the budget, and I asked the questions So I know that it was at times labor-intensive So I would just like to say thank you to the foundation, the C2C staff And Dr. Muñoz, I’d like to thank you, because I know that this was something that you inherited, and I know that you had to roll up your sleeves, and kind of get to work So I’m looking forward to a report back from you I don’t know how much time you’ll need, maybe six months to come back to the Board, and give us an update on the changes and the transition Thank you very much All right, so we’re gonna move on to item 12 on the agenda, this is reports 12.1, academic senate president – Good evening On behalf of the Academic Senate, I would like to congratulate the graduates who earned their associate degrees and certificates in the 2019/2020 academic year I would like to thank Dr Alisia Kirkwood and her team for the development and coordination of the cap and go activity, and the virtual commencement program The unsung heroes continue to be the dedicated, and talented communications team, in particular, Stacey Toda, Jerome Thomas, and Cimille Walton, who coordinated the videotaping of speeches and promoted activities throughout the LBCC community, and the surrounding cities Challenging times call for creative solutions, and I truly believe that LBCC rose to the occasion It was clear from the student, faculty and staff feedback that graduates felt celebrated and honored Well done Three cheers to the Curriculum Committee, under the leadership of Dr. Wendy Koenig, for working with faculty to develop, write, and submit over 200 individual distance education addendums, with another 150 waiting to be approved Working in consultation with Dr. Kathy Scott, executive vice president of academic affairs, Michelle Grimes-Hillman, Dean of academic services, and Kenna Hillman, associate dean of academic affairs, we will be able to file the comprehensive reports required by the chancellor’s office, to ensure that the courses we have transitioned from face-to-face to online maintain the standard of excellence LBCC is known for A Herculean task that deserves a huge round of applause Congratulations to Trisha Wilging, who has been selected as the new SLO coordinator One of our newer faculty members who I had the pleasure of working with when I served as FPD coordinator She’s a reading professor, and served on the curriculum committee She and her team of peer reviewers will be working with departments to close the loop on student learning outcomes, and meet accreditation standards As the college moves from the COVID response team meetings to focusing our efforts on being able to, when appropriate, repopulate the campus,

Lou-Anne Bynum, our interim superintendent-president has assembled an effective, collaborative, and well-versed shared governance work group It has been a pleasure to meet weekly, tackle issues, think out of the box for solutions, share resources, be proactive and visionary This is what makes LBCC great The selfless collaboration across all of the on-campus constituencies to keep student success at the forefront During my tenure at Long Beach City College, there had been a handful of role models who have greatly influenced me both personally and professionally One of those individuals was Dr. Mary Williams When I began my faculty assignment in counseling, Dr. Williams shared the Counseling Department head duties with Diana Ogimachi She lead by example, was a strong advocate for the academic senate, and was instrumental in the creation of the faculty union She was elegant, thoughtful, fun-loving, and a friend for over 35 years Dr. Williams passed away two weeks ago The family is requesting donations to support our homeless student efforts She will be missed, but not forgotten This concludes my report – Thank you very much, Jeri Item 12.2, Classified Senate president – Hello So recently we had elections I’d like to mention the continuing and new members of the Classified Senate Council President is me, you have one more year to deal with me Vice president and new to this position, but not new to the council, is Sundee Dominguez, back lab coordinator Treasurer, continuing with us is LaTonyua Harden, the college’s travel coordinator Secretary, completely new to the council is Polise Smith, who is the admin assistant for visual and media arts Our communication coordinator is Alexis Redmond, she’s the instructional lab coordinator with learning and academic resources at LAC And for senators, area one continuing with us, is Liz Gallardo, the instructional lab coordinator for learning and academic resources at PCC Area two, continuing his current term with us is Ben Chase He was the financial aid specialist Area three, also continuing with us, Ariane Le, lead library technician for the PCC library Area five, Chrysallis Baldonado is continuing her term as well She’s the admin assistant with the library Area six, completely new to the council is Stephanie Bengalis, the interpreter services coordinator with the disabled student services Area seven, continuing is Jimmie Flowers Area eight is Anne Engel I heard we talk about weekly communication and connection events, which have been very successful, three times a week Coffee Mondays, Tech Tuesdays, and Wellness Wednesdays, they’ve been interesting, fun, and valuable times to talk, interact and learn new things, have low-stress conversations So on Monday, June 2nd, we were very glad that we have these weekly events scheduled, and the Zoom links were all set up Of course, we didn’t follow the plan programs, but we had instead a number of heartfelt, emotional, meaningful conversations People spoke freely, and we learned so much from everybody, but especially the stories of our African American colleagues So during the series challenges we have been experiencing in the last three months, and through what has occurred in the last few weeks, we were so grateful, we were so gratified, that the relationship between the constituency groups is strong We stand together with the classified union, the academic senate, and the faculty union in helping the college meet the continuing challenges we will be faced with in the near future It’s 1:20 in the morning I didn’t look at the clock until just now So thank you very much – Thank you so much, yes it is C.C, 01:20 in the morning Okay we’re going to item 12.3, this is for the Board of Trustees Anybody care to do a report? – Well, I have a report naturally – All right – Okay, I will say all this very quickly, but then I would like to adjourn the meeting in memory of Dr. Mary Williams, who Jeri already talked about And also to Coach Jim Murphy has passed away So here’s my report – Baxter? – [Ginny] Yes – If I may also, John Hauck passed away recently – Oh thank you, I’m sorry thank you

John Hauck from the Electrical Department Thank you, I had it written down, and I didn’t look at it Okay, and then Jackie, I will send you the spellings on all these after I’m done So on May 28th, I attended the Todd Cancer Institute Advisory Board meeting Also that same day, Congresswoman Judy Chu spoke on behalf of the Asian Pacific Islander Desi Program She was very interesting, I thought we were very, very fortunate to have her speak to our campus On May 29th, we had the Honor’s Reception, and also the ASP virtual award ceremony On June 6th, Long Beach Rotary Scholarship celebrated the graduating scholarship recipients On June 4th, attend the Long Beach City College Foundation Executive Committee On June 6th, American Association University Women’s Meeting On the 8th I was also interviewed for the feasibility study for the 100th anniversary fundraising campaign for the foundation Then, I have trouble reading It must be ’cause it’s 1:30 On June 10th, attended the student success presentation I thought this was really well done virtually All these virtual things were excellent Commencement on the 12th, and I want to call out Alyssa, the ASP President, who did a wonderful job as MC And Bolie Mitchell, who was an outstanding valedictorian, and oh very inspiring, the choir who sang, Chef T I knew Chef T, but I did not know his story, and he was a great alumni speaker, and a wonderful encourager to the students, and also he loves Long Beach City College And then finally Jena Jimenez who wrapped up the program and did a very, very nice job And I can’t even read what this says So that’s the end of my report, and we are adjourning in memory of John Hauck, Mary Williams, and Jim Murphy – Thank you very much, Trustee Baxter Anybody else wanna contribute a board report? – [Sunny] I just wanna thank staff for doing such a spectacular job for commencement, the virtual commencement It was so well done, and I’m so proud of all of you, and our students Our student trustee, our ASP, student president, everyone You were amazing, I thoroughly enjoyed it Thank you so much for all the effort you put into it Congratulations to all our students – [Vivian] Thank you Trustee Zia Trustee Otto, Trustee Ntuk, do you have any board reports? – Sure, I will also be brief But the first question I have is, I watched Ginny give her report, and it’s like on campus, but it’s daylight Is it daylight out? – I have special powers – Okay, okay So I too not only enjoyed watching the graduation, but I watched it twice, ’cause it was so moving And I thought that everybody did a spectacular job, in a tough time I will share a little story with you, and that is that I’m getting calls from Avalon, or I got calls from people in Avalon, which I represented, is in my district And they wanted a real graduation They had arranged to do it at the casino, which is 1,000 seats and there were only 35 graduates And I couldn’t get Long Beach Unified to return a call about that, and my wife commented that she thought that maybe And by the way, the movement to change the name of Woodrow Wilson High School, because he was such a racist and, and a new genesis My wife opined that she believed that I might be one of the, the only person to be impeached before he took office at the Long Beach Unified (muffled speaking) Anyway I’m worried about these meetings I don’t think that we can make good decisions

after about 10 o’clock at night And that means, do we have to manage them, we have to figure out a way to do it It’s collectively our responsibility We go off I don’t know what the solution is, but I think we need to think about it, and talk about it, because I guarantee you that there aren’t very many people that are still watching us Probably, thank God It’s really important that we get tasks to do, we get ’em done We show each other respect We don’t spin off in lots of directions And as you’ve heard me say a number of times, our problem is us We’re not functioning as a board, we’re functioning as a bunch of individuals We had such a great opportunity tonight with the stuff that Uduak put on the agenda to take that ball and run with it And we started to, and then all of a sudden we were off in other places, and the momentum was lost And I hope and trust that the momentum won’t be lost permanently, because this is important work, and we can really do it, and we can do it together as a Board and show people that this is really important to us And by the end of the meeting I almost forgot that we were mad at the beginning Again, thank you Uduak for the foresight and the work that you put into that But it’s 1:30, I think I have to be in court in Alhambra at 8:30 tomorrow morning, and I’m trying to remember the name of my client So I’m not gonna make this last, and then oh yeah, we have a second closed session So I’m gonna stop, but let’s think about how we can do this better Thank you – Thank you Trustee Otto Trustee Zia, Trustee Ntuk, do you have any reports that you’d like to share? – [Sunny] I shared my remarks, Vivian I think it’s very late, we should move on – Trustee Ntuk I think we have man down, man down Before I go into my report, I just wanted to Trustee Otto, I agree with you I’m a little concerned myself Last month’s meeting adjourned at 1:04 in the morning, right now it’s 1:30, we still have a second closed session I think a lot of the questions that trustees ask could and should be asked in advance to staff when the agenda is released on Thursday I think there’s plenty of time to email staff Friday, Saturday, Sunday, even Monday I know that sometimes, by the time you get to the Board meeting day, staff already has its hands full addressing other issues that have come up So that’s one way that we shorten the length of the time of the meeting And I proposed having two meetings a month, so that we can break up our agenda We have a very hefty agenda, and I proposed having maybe two three hour meetings a month, which is a lot better than having one ridiculously long eight or nine or meeting a month But that was not supported by the Board So if our meetings continue in excess of eight hours, then I think we should consider shutting We don’t have to have some of these reports twice a month We can break up our agenda to two three hour meetings, or two four hour meetings And then we can take care of the business of the college that way But anyway So let me just begin with my report On Friday the 29th, all of this is done remotely All of this is via Zoom I was with the Honor’s Program, the Honor’s Banquet, and also the ASB Banquet Congratulations to Honors Transfer students and Dr. Jeff Wheeler, and also the ASB banquet that evening I agree, Alyssa did a great job running that banquet On Sunday May 31st, my oldest daughter and I participated in the first of four protests that we participated in in Downtown Long Beach That was the one that was actually on the news later that night When we were there, it was peaceful, it was great

I saw several LBCC students I actually took some pictures, but I wasn’t able to upload them And Dario, by the time I remembered it was too late, and I didn’t wanna do that to you But I did take some pictures with some LBCC students down on Ocean during that protest, and I was so happy to see some of our LBCC students participating in this On Monday, June 1st, my family and I participated in some of the cleanup, both in the west side and in downtown Long Beach, because some of our neighborhood business were looted So I think it’s important to acknowledge the work that the community has done in terms of trying to mitigate the problems that resulted from the peaceful protest And it wasn’t the peaceful protestors who were the ones looting On Friday, June 5th, I’m very proud to report that I watched on television the protest that Long Beach City College students organized from the LAC Campus to the Lakewood Sheriff Station And I was very happy to see that some of our students were interviewed They were articulate, they shared a good message, and it made me really proud to know that these were our students there that were taking leadership and running that, really good job On Saturday, June 6th, there were two protests Saturday morning, my union, ILWU coordinated a protest in San Pedro And then that afternoon, we participated in a protest in Carson, which is my hometown And again, everything was peaceful None of the protestors or organizers were involved in any of the ruckus that fortunately took over our news On Friday, June 12th, fantastic job with commencement My family and I watched it, and then I went back with some of my kids’ friends and watched the valedictorian and our keynote speaker address, just those two, because I was so moved And let me tell you, the second time around was just as good as the first time And I really want to commend the commencement team We did an outstanding job I’m so proud of them The virtual commencement was just fantastic, it was heartfelt I love seeing all the different testimonies from all the different employees who got together, and seen their large Zoom pictures on there What an amazing, just amazing show of teamwork and comradery Thank you for that, it was fantastic Friday, June 19th, Lou Anne Bynum and I spent several hours on a Zoom call with the Trustee fellowship symposium, which was supposed to be down in South Orange County We had homework assignments, which we’ve already worked on, and we were able to discuss some of the issues facing our college and our leadership And one takeaway that I got from that symposium, a fellow trustee made remark saying that leadership matters And I agree with her in a sense that we set the tone, and we set the culture of the college and the district And the climate that is fostered comes from the top, so I just wanted to share that with you And then also on Friday, June 29th, I just wanna share June 19th, I wanna share, with it being Juneteenth, that the ILWU, my union, actually shut down the West Coast We shut down all 29 ports in Oregon, Washington and California as a show of solidarity with African Americans, and in celebration of Juneteenth And I’m very proud to work for a union that has always been on the forefront of social justice And it took a lot But to shut down 29 ports for eight hours during the day shift of Friday, June 19th, was a really big deal And I hope that others understand that it’s more than just words, it’s also action And this in closing with my report, I just want to congratulate the class of 2020 You did it, I know that it was a difficult semester for everyone, but you graduated And for those of you that would like to come back, I know the opportunity is there, if you wanna walk across the stage next year And if you don’t, if you’re ready to move on, then power to you, and you definitely have our blessing So thank you everybody And before we close, and I just wanna wish everybody, and I know we still have a second closed session, but I wanna wish everybody a great summer, a relaxing summer I hope that you have an opportunity to rest, and relax, and recover, because we’re gonna need you when we start back up in August There’ll be some changes coming down the pike,

and some meetings to coordinate events, but we want all of you to have a happy, safe, productive summer And hopefully we will begin some normalcy So that concludes my report Is there any report in section 12.4 of the agenda, Trustee Committees? Anything on that? Okay, and 12.5, future reports? Any requests? Okay, so item 13, section 13 on the agenda, I understand that we do have three comments on non-agenda items Board secretary Jackie Hann will be reading out those comments for us – [Jackie] I have six comments – Oh six, okay – Yes I hope I can stay awake and see Okay the first one, the person has asked not to state her name, and her statement is regarding increase of working while working remotely for classified– – Excuse me, wait Excuse me, can we do that? – [Jackie] Yes, by law you do not have to provide your name – Okay – Okay But we ask, and if they comply, it’s wonderful But they do not “In my position, my workload has increased in several ways “First through student interactions, “the ability to communicate with students “is a lot more challenging while working remotely.” I’m sorry, I’ll put my video on “Each interaction is much more time-consuming “Often an exchange that would take two to three minutes “now involves many emails over several hours “to ensure they have a clear indication “of what they need to do “Also, my position has recently been moved “from the front desk area, “when we are in the office in person, “to allow my workload to be completed without interruption “I am now helping full-time students via email, “phone calls, and chatting via front-desk “chat to triage students’ needs “Often we have multiple students messaging at once “So my assigned task must be delayed “Also, many of my tasks have “become much more time-consuming “Monthly meetings I am assigned to take notes, “that have become weekly meetings “Notes must be generated and distributed back out “on a much quicker turnaround “Also communicating of assignments of faculty and staff “has become much more and more time consuming, “as I am tracking signatures and responses, and entry “for dozens of faculty members as well as students “Being at the mercy of the speed of others “to respond to my request in their inboxes “slows down all my processes as well.” This statement is from Layla Brada, and she is in the Life Science Department I don’t know if it’s a question, or just a concern, but I’m just going to read it, it’s very short Topic, classified employee input about working from home “I have been required to work “on campus four days this month, “and I have been told I would be required to work “on campus during the following months, “but I have not been told how many days each month, “or for how many months.” Elizabeth Gallardo, an instructional lab coordinator “Thinking into the future and beyond our current situation, “it’s essential that we shine a spotlight “on those who are going above and beyond “at Long Beach City College, and to bring attention “to our well-deserved Classified staff “of the heavy lifting they have done “during this unprecedented time “Classified Union E-Board has asked us, “the Classified staff, to share our remote work experience “highlighting how we helped and supported “fellow colleagues, faculty, administrators and students “during this time “We have faced unique challenges “in adjusting to remote working, during this health crisis, “with some of us even being designated “as essential staff to remain on campus “to help with day-to-day operations “that are critical to our function “and delivery of services “I would like to highlight the outstanding work done “by classified staff “in the multi-disciplinary success center, “and tutoring center, at both LAC and PCC “They have helped maintain the same level “of quality service online as they did in person “for our students “With our imperfect workspaces and managing, “facilitating and collaborating at a distance, “we have assisted students with accessing tutoring,

“supplemental learning assistance, “and basic adult education “In a collective effort, here are some of the amazing “work we did during the spring semester “We, the classified staff, “of the Multi-disciplinary success center, “and tutoring center have scheduled “650 tutoring appointments with students, “scheduled 400 embedded tutoring appointments “with the help of 29 embedded tutors “Scheduled 561 tutor-lead supplemental learning assistance, “follow-up sessions for students “All of these appointments were also back-logged “to keep record of our sessions “Provided tutoring for 150 subjects “with an additional 15 subjects that were added “to being tutored online, “that were not requested before in person “Received and sent over 1,000 emails “on behalf of tutoring “Received and sent 3,123 emails “on behalf of supplemental learning assistance, “questions about online services, “and our basic adult education program “Answered 458 phone calls for tutoring, “along with the 66 Google Voice text messages “Trained tutors’ additional topics “for new online environment, such as ConferZoom “Whiteboard features, online etiquette, “troubleshooting issues, communication protocols “Tutor track entries to record sessions, “and collaborative learning strategies “for a virtual environment “Throughout the semester, tutors were able to share “campus resources with students like mental health support “and the food pantry “When tend to expand on this topic with our tutors, “as each student shares their life “in a brief amount of time with us during tutoring sessions “And with compassion in our hearts, “we must help our vikings “For all Classified staff, tutoring and SI coordinators “in the tutoring center who convert “the tutor certified training and SI leader, “and embedded tutor training to an online format, “five weeks of training materials “We’ve converted over 100 plus documents to be fillable “to help student’s ease into the online environment, “and to allow them to not have “to print out materials unnecessarily “Thank you to the classified staff, “and the multidisciplinary success center “and tutoring center “To all our classified staff at LBCC, “we are all vitally important to the mission “of Long Beach City College “We have a hand in the success of our students.” Benjamin Pace says, “Dear Superintendent-President, “and members of the Board of Trustees “I write this message today to speak to the work “being completed by the financial aid team at LBCC, “which has been acknowledged at previous Board meetings “I would like to share with you the work experience “of the seven financial aid specialists who have stepped up “greatly during this working remote process, “to leverage all the skills and knowledge we have “to fill the shoes of the two “open financial aid specialist positions, “and one working out of class “Operating at a 70% of staffing is less than ideal “With that said, we have responded to the challenges, “and risen to the occasion filling all roles “and responsibilities asked of us, “regardless of job description or title “Here are some of the tools and technology “now being used remotely “Cranium Café, Zoom, Skype, CampusLogic, “PeopleSoft, [email protected], “updated financial aid website, “individual work emails, phones, “enrollment services call center, “and targeted outreach through email, “phone, and text messages “All of the before-mentioned tools and technology “have been put into practice by the team “to best the students where and when they need us “during and beyond our office hours “I make a point of addressing the additional workload “placed on each of us during this challenging time, “more for understanding “than congratulations on a job well done “My colleagues and I are providing the services “as best we can, with the technology and staffing available “Our efforts combined with the amazing assistance “of two unsung heroes, Maggie. (muffled speaking) “and the super-student focused financial aid team, “and Jennifer Lopez, the enrollment services’ “ultimate essential worker, “who has been doing double duty handling the mail “and incoming tax messages for both the admissions “and records, and the financial aid teams

“Without their dedication and attention to detail, “we would have failed greatly in our respective roles “When a team works to accomplish tasks, “and dedicates their energy to (muffled speaking) “students on their college journey at LBCC, “and beyond, amazing things can happen for all involved.” From Sundee Dominguez “Dear superintendent-president and members “of the Board of Trustee, “I am writing today to highlight “some of the outstanding work “that our classified professionals have been doing “while working remotely during this stressful time “First, I would like to highlight some of the work “that the Classified employees and the Math Success Center “have been doing in order to continue to serve “the hundreds of students remotely who need help “with math on a daily basis “All of the tutoring and various other services “have been shifted online with Zoom “We have created forms for students to fill out “to request the type of service “they may need, such as tutoring, “supplemental learning assistance tutorials, and workshops “These forms are then processed by our student workers “who set the student up “for the type of appointment they need “We also email the math factory daily.” Faculty, I’m sorry “Math faculty daily with a list of their students “who have completed the supplemental learning activities “that are part of their class grade “We have created orientation videos “that are tailored to the various math classes, “and instruct the students on how to access “the various services they can utilize “from the Math Success Center “We have updated our website and our canvas shelf, “so that students can access information easily “We worked in conjunction with IT “and the other success centers to make sure, “there was online after hours “tutoring available to students “when the success centers are closed “We manage hundreds of emails a week “helping students with various questions “We are working with the math faculty “to schedule their embedded tutors’ online sessions, “and this includes helping any part time faculty “understand how to gain access to licensed version of Zoom “Conducted trainings with the tutors “and front counter staff to train them “how to do their jobs online “The trainings included how to use ConferZoom, “online etiquette, troubleshooting, communication protocols, “and how to adjust tutoring techniques “to the online environment “We take Skype calls from students “who really want to speak to a person, instead of emailing “All of this has been done on the fly, “and everyone has responded with a positive outlook “Because we know that serving our students “is our mission, and the students are counting on us “All of the before mentioned tools and technology “have been put into practice by the team “to best meet the students where and when they need us “during, and sometimes even beyond office hours “I wanted to make sure that not only “the Classified or the Math Success Center “are recognized for their hard work in transitioning, “but also the Classified Senate “I am the incoming Vice President for the Senate, “and I am very proud of the ways in which the Senate “has created opportunities for the Classified “to stay connected and helping them to adjust “to this new working environment “We have Coffee Mondays where we try to pick “a lighthearted thing to get our week started off “We have Tech Tuesdays, where we have many sessions “on how to use various technology “that we have available on campus “Lastly, we have Wellness Wednesdays, “which we try to focus on different mental health issues, “such as how to have a work/life balance “when working from home “All of these ways to reach out to the Classified “has helped many people tremendously during this time “of fear caused by COVID-19 “It is imperative that we keep ourselves healthy, “mentally, emotionally, and physically, “and the Senate is helping the Classified to achieve that “Thank you to all the Classified Professionals “for all the hard work that you are continuing to achieve “no matter what obstacles have been placed in front of you “Thank you superintendent-president, “members of the Board of Trustees for listening.” Dona Coats says, “Below is the list of the items “for the Board of Trustees, “per the request regarding challenges faced “by Classified working from home “This is a compilation from numerous sources “Physical health at work “I was given an ergonomic chair, desk, and computer “It was adjusted specifically to me to reduce fatigue “I completed a course on the chair, “to adjust my position to sit efficiently “At home I do not have ergonomic furniture

“Due to my family also being confined at home, “I am unable to move to different furniture “to accommodate my work “This has lead to hip and back problems “Distractions “Due to sharing a home with five people, “including two teenagers, “I am frequently hit with distractions “with everyone wanting help, or wanting to talk to me “I have to deal with the TV, radio, “and people coming in and out of the room I am in “There seems to be no area for me to escape “on a break or for lunch “This is exhausting and increases my stress level “Lack of work tools available “At work I can use multiple computers “at the same time to multitask, “and create multiple pages at once “I have a much faster T1 line available “for higher internet speeds, “for intensive video/audio tasks “My home camera and audio do not work “We have 15 wireless devices working almost 24 hours a day “Most of our capacity in kilobytes are maxed out “due to heavy video usage, such as Zoom “I cannot add another WiFi device, “so I am limited in what I can do at home “Lack of materials “At school, I have almost every textbook, workbook, “and teacher’s addition of the books needed “to assist students with “I cannot make reportings, I cannot loan students “grammar and reading materials “I have to try to walk them through everything online “Five, inability to assist students “and faculty for technology “Often students, and even some faculty, “have difficulty getting on and using Canvas Zoom, “ConferZoom, text, emails, copying, “and sending work, getting and using tutoring help, “finding research material, et cetera “They may have issues with Chromebooks, phones, “printing, or accessing school services “Due to our ESL students’ language problems, “what is difficulty for us becomes a barrier “to our ESL students “In person I can more easily identify the problem “and find, or seek, a solution, because we are face-to-face, “and the materials are nearby “In addition to ESL, utilizes multilingual “federal work study students, “who can provide language assistance “Due to the language barrier, “I do not have a way to understand “and assist the student easily “I cannot see or identify their problem “and often cannot understand what their problem is “Six, increased hours in work day “Due to having to recreate everything from scratch, “an easy tutoring session “becomes a multi-hour series of explanations “Students and faculty often need help “day, afternoon, or evening, “and often on weekends as well “Our work day seems to never end now “It is difficult, because everyone is home “without any apparent sense of workday hours “Questions and requests for assistance “come in at all hours “Seven, working remotely, ineffective “For example, trying to enroll a HS student “who needs to complete a concurrent form, “and enrollment form, or a challenge form “before being able to enroll. (muffled speaking) “Especially a non-native speaker “is extremely challenging “Many do not have, or have never used a computer “Eight, no printer “Not having hard copies of documents “means I am constantly having to search for them “on my desktop files every time they are needed, “instead of just having them handy in a file “Number nine, internet connectivity and power loss issues “Twice my entire neighborhood has lost all power for hours, “and a few times I have lost internet connection “for a lengthy period “This is an issue I rarely have experienced on campus “When you lose power or internet, you continue to work, “stay at work, because you have no idea “when it will all reconnect, so you dare not step away.” That’s the end – Thank you very much, Jackie, for reading those comments And thank you to the, I believe mostly were Classified staff who submitted those comments I know a couple of months ago we had faculty who submitted some very insightful comments about their working conditions at home, and I am floored listening to some of these comments I wasn’t aware of all of the hardships that our Classified staff was facing, and it certainly did open up my eyes to just being at home, and being on the phone for eight hours Thousands, and thousands of students, and calls, and admissions, and financial aid, and that’s just a lot of work, so I really appreciate that So at this time we are going into our second closed session,

and if everybody wants to hang out and wait, we can go ahead and do that Hopefully it won’t take very long, and then we will come back for our formal adjournment So Dario, let us know when it’s time to leave the room and go into the second closed session please Okay everybody, welcome back

It is 2:17 in the morning,

today is actually Thursday, June 25th,

but we are continuing our regularly scheduled Board Meeting

from Wednesday, June 24th For those of you that are still with us, or that may be watching this later, we had to adjourn the meeting right before midnight, and then we had to reconvene again right after midnight, for the Brown Act And this was our second closed session, so we’re coming back I would like to report out that the Board had discussion on item 1.4, and the Board had discussion on item 1.5, and the Board did give direction to Vice President Gene Durand to a vote of three-two for item 1.5 That actually concludes our reporting on section 14 of the agenda We are now going to section 15 of the agenda, which is the adjournment We will adjourn to the next regular scheduled meeting of the Board of Trustees, which will be held on Wednesday, July 21st, 2020 Closed session at 4:30, open session at 5:30 And I will defer to Trustee Baxter to once again say the names of the persons that we are adjourning this meeting in honor of And thank you everyone for sticking with us Sorry for the delay, and Trustee Baxter, go ahead and adjourn the meeting and the names – Okay, we are adjourning in memory of our wonderful professor John Hauk, Counselor, Dr. Mary William, and coach Jim Murphy – Thank you very much everybody, goodnight Be safe, happy summer

– Be on the lookout for a lot of things to


Desolations of Jerusalem: History of the Seventh-day Adventist Church | Documentary

“Night, dark and portentous, is enclosing the Christian world Apostasy from God’s commandments is evidence of this night, deep, dark, and apparently impenetrable Systems that make the truth of God of none effect are cherished Men are teaching for doctrine the commandments of men and their assertions are taken as truth The people have received man-made theories So the gospel is perverted, and the Scripture misapplied As in the days of Christ, the light of truth is pushed into the background Men’s theories and suppositions are honoured before the word of the Lord God of hosts The truth is counteracted by error The word of God is wrested, divided, and distorted by higher criticism Jesus is acknowledged, only to be betrayed by a kiss Apostasy exists, and will enclose the world till the last Its hideous character and darkening influence will be seen in the maddening draughts dealt out from Babylon.” Bible Echo, February 1, 1897 How do we know that we are not enclosed about in the darkness of night? Are the commandments and assertions of men our guide, or are we ruled by a Higher Power? Have we cherished systems that make the truth of God of none effect? Do we wrest, divide, and distort the word of God through the unsuitable methodology used by the higher critics? Has God left us to wander about in darkness without a system of interpretation bearing His divine endorsement? What is the proper way to study the Bible? That we might adequately answer these questions we must go back in time several generations; to a time when the opinions and theories of men were beginning to be shrugged off by those who were seeking for the truth as revealed in the Word of God; we must go back to the time of our fathers—the Millerites ~Desolations of Jerusalem~ ~History of the Seventh-day Adventist Church~ “We have nothing to fear for the future, except as we shall forget the way the Lord has led us, and His teaching in our past history.” Life Sketches, 196 For centuries prior to the reformation led by William Miller in the 1800s, the dogmas of the papacy had blinded the minds of the inhabitants of the earth Through pagan philosophy and vain deceit the Scriptures had been hidden, and the result was impenetrable darkness and superstition The Catholic Church at the very beginning of its history was diametrically opposed to the Scriptures Their object was to withhold the Scriptures, to hide the Scriptures in any way possible In the book The Great Controversy, around page 51 or so, it states that the Catholic Church recognized that if the Word of God was exalted, then God would be put in His proper place and man would be put in his proper place below God and subservient to God So, recognizing that, as the Catholic Church did, that was the reason why it endeavored to hide and to put down the Word of God—the Bible Its relation to the Word of God is exactly that: to exalt man in the place of God

When it relates to how they dealt with the Scriptures, the Scriptures were not the ultimate authority; the church was the ultimate authority And the Scriptures were only to be understood in how they were interpreted by the church and, of course the church changes constantly in what it believes So this means that the Scriptures, one, is they needed to be kept from the common people which, over time, that happened But also the church then had to have their scholars be the ones that interpret the Scriptures When Martin Luther first discovered the Bible, it was chained to a Convent wall because men believed that the plain Word of God, just as it reads, was evil and dangerous Through an alliance secured in the sixth century with the civil authorities of Europe, the Catholic Church wielded absolute power, both ecclesiastically and politically But, in February of 1798 the pope was taken captive, thus ending the long and dark ages of papal supremacy and oppression Revival, she says, is a renewal of spiritual life But Reformation is, if I can quote part of the words at least… that I remember… she says it’s a change in ideas, in habits, and practices That’s exactly what Reformation is And so the Protestant Reformation was indeed exactly that: a change in ideas, in habits, and practices I could, right here, read to you various statements in the book by… I believe his name is Merle d’Aubigné… that individuals like Zwingli and Martin Luther and others, that show that those reformers… those Protestant reformers… they compared Scripture with Scripture, and allowed the Bible to explain itself “Throughout Christendom, Protestantism was menaced by formidable foes The first triumphs of the Reformation past, Rome summoned new forces, hoping to accomplish its destruction At this time the order of the Jesuits was created, the most cruel, unscrupulous, and powerful of all the champions of popery.” The Great Controversy, 234 The Catholic Church was beginning to realize that they were losing a lot of ground The Protestant Reformation, over a period of about 40 years, had swept over Europe And people began to turn away from the priests; they began to turn away from the pope; they began to turn away from their confidence in their authority So in order to regain their prestige, in order for the Catholic Church and the papacy to regain their power and their authority, they created the Jesuit order And they began to start to create schools to counter the Protestant schools And in a very short period of time, unfortunately, the Catholic church had regained much of what it had lost What at first began as a pursuit to withhold a knowledge of the truth from the people, soon turned into a venture to amalgamate and corrupt Once the light of the Reformation broke across Europe, the papacy, seeing its inability to prevent the truth’s advancement by force, instead sought to undermine the interpretation of the Scriptures by erecting corrupt institutions of learning The Protestants had set up educational institutions, but the Catholic Church infiltrated those institutions through the Jesuits So, the Jesuits were the instruments of The Counter Reformation Their goal was to undermine the work that was being done in the Protestant Reformation And their primary emphasis was to take control of the educational systems of the Protestants, which they’ve done throughout the Protestant world… and change any kind of Protestant biblical methodology that might have existed in those schools into Catholic methodology, which places tradition and custom above the authority of God’s Word human wisdom above divine wisdom They’ve accomplished that Even in the schools of Adventism,

it’s a done deal The work of the Jesuits during the Counter Reformation was broad They infiltrated every aspect of society with the purpose that the people of Europe and of the world would fall back into line with Catholicism The Protestants would have the youth educated by a plain “thus saith the Lord;” the Jesuits, “thus saith man.” You take control of a human being in its first seven years if you’re going to get into the children that aren’t Catholic children, then you want to take control of an educational system where the children are going to be funneled into that educational system at a young age and stay in it all the way through Educational system that’s a tool of the Jesuits It suits Satan’s purposes just as well as to destroy the Bible itself because you can have the Bible in your home, you can have it at your desk, on your bookshelf But if you do not… if we do not… have faith, implicit faith, in the Bible as Word of God, you may as well burn it So the methodology is not just how one opens the Bible and studies it It’s what authority does the Bible have in the individual’s life over the churches? And then what part does the individual play in having to interpret and understand the Scriptures for himself? So, that change didn’t happen in a day, but it does come from Greek thought And so the students, the philosophers, the learned, they become the ones who understand the Scriptures, the common person is incapable of studying God’s word for themselves A methodology that Jesuits use —higher criticism— it is a direct contradiction to the ‘thus saith the Lord’ on how we are supposed to study the word of God And, ultimately it comes down to where the student of the educational system is going to place his confidence; whether he is going to place it in the human teacher or the Word of God Genuine education is teaching students to have their confidence in the word of God, not in human beings, not even in themselves So it’s about inculcating a dependence upon the human instead of the Divine Higher criticism destroys faith in the Word of God because it relies upon human intellect to understand the Word of God From Great Controversy page 599: “Yet we must not forget that the docility and submission of a child is the true spirit of the learner Scriptural difficulties can never be mastered by the same methods that are employed in grappling with philosophical problems.” And I know, I know that many people will have a terrible problem with this The same power that gives us, and forgives us of our sins, the same power that enables us to overcome our sins is the same power that helps us to understand the Scriptures You cannot separate those two The ability to do God’s will is no different from the ability to understand the Scriptures Both come from the Holy Spirit “We should not engage in the study of the Bible with that self-reliance with which so many enter the domains of science, but with a prayerful dependence upon God and a sincere desire to learn His will We must come with a humble and teachable spirit to obtain knowledge from the great I AM otherwise, otherwise, evil angels will so blind our minds and harden our hearts that we shall not be impressed by the truth.” “One reason why many theologians have no clearer understanding of God’s word is they close their eyes to truths which they do not wish to practice An understanding of Bible truth depends not so much on the power of intellect brought to the search as on the singleness of purpose, the earnest longing after righteousness.” The Great Controversy, 599 To illustrate

how Catholicism uses tradition, I want to read this quote from Vatican II Council on Traditions of the Fathers: “Hence there exists a close connection and communication between sacred tradition and Sacred Scripture For both of them, flowing from the same divine wellspring, in a certain way merge into a unity and tend toward the same end For Sacred Scripture is the word of God inasmuch as it is consigned to writing under the inspiration of the divine Spirit.” “To the successors of the Apostles, sacred tradition hands on its full purity God’s Word which was entrusted to the apostles by Christ, the Lord, and the Holy Spirit.” “Thus by the Light of the Spirit of Truth, these successors can in their preaching preserve the Word of God faithfully, explain it, and make it more widely known Consequently it is not from sacred Scripture alone that the church draws her certainty about everything which has been revealed Therefore, both sacred tradition and sacred Scripture are to be accepted and venerated with the same devotion and reverence.” So we see here that the Catholic Church, in a very eloquent manner, tries to tie or give authority to tradition that’s equal with the authority of the Scriptures It’s subtle to many people who read this; it just sounds natural that the church should have some authority Even within Adventism we can see that same idea Where… well, if we’re going to understand the Bible, we need to know what the church teaches And that’s basically a Catholic principle If we are to understand the Bible, we need to know what the Bible teaches; what the church teaches is irrelevant in that context The history following the commencement of the Counter Reformation is replete with illustrations of the educational warfare initiated at that time From the Scientific Revolution to The Enlightenment, the period succeeding the founding of the Jesuit order and leading up to 1798 was a time of so called “intellectual advancement,” which served only to destroy faith in God’s Word and encourage temporal mindedness Though the external persecutions of the Protestant reformers by the Catholic Church were strong, the much more insidious influence of the Jesuits in the realm of education was absolutely detrimental to the Protestant faith altogether and has had quite the lasting effect So far as Bible interpretation is concerned, the rationale of that era has done very much harm to the simple faith in the Word of God The higher critics of the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries effectually replaced faith with reason Thus we enter into a time where God purposed to give back the key of knowledge to His servants, and restore faith in His word in opposition to the rationalistic philosophy of the time Thus, we enter into the history of the Millerite people One of the influences that came out of the Counter Reformation era was Deism, a belief in the existence of a creator who does not intervene in the universe which he created Thus Deists do not believe in the inspiration of the Bible, consigning faith to the wastebasket and reason to the pulpit, that is, if they attend services at all This was the sad state of our dear brother, William Miller, when the Lord providentially intervened in his life He became a deist He left the faith of his fathers, even to the point of ridiculing his elderly relatives, some of which were ministers of the gospel He ridiculed them and mocked them, in their belief the Word of God, in their preaching of the Word of God

But after a series of circumstances in his life, he came to the point of total surrender to Christ It was in the Battle of Plattsburgh, on Lake Champlain 1814 that Miller saw God’s hand operating in helping the Americans overcome the British Two years later he began his systematic study of the Scriptures The greatest evidence that Jesus is the Messiah… is the Savior of the world… is in comparing the prophecies of the Old Testament with the history of the New (Desire of Ages, 799) When he came to that realization that only in the Bible the Savior is brought to view, the Bible then became the Book of books to him He desired nothing else than to acquaint himself with his Creator, with his Savior in the Bible And so he began to study the Bible from cover to cover going very methodically… very systematically… in comparing Scripture with Scripture “He now publicly professed his faith in the religion which he had despised But his infidel associates were not slow to bring forward all those arguments which he himself had often urged against the divine authority of the Scriptures He was not then prepared to answer them; but he reasoned, that if the Bible is a revelation from God, it must be consistent with itself, and that as it was given for man’s instruction, it must be adapted to his understanding He determined to study the Scriptures for himself, and ascertain if every apparent contradiction could not be harmonized.” (The Great Controversy, 319) As Ellen White brings out in the very beginning of the chapter in Great Controversy, “An American Reformer,” she says that an upright honest farmer, was the one that God had chosen to give the message of Christ’s soon coming to the world (Great Controversy, 317) He was that man that God had chosen He had his King James Bible This is also important You cannot use just any Bible It has to be a Bible—a Bible that has been established on the reformatory movement and on the correct texts, which have not been defied by newer bibles or ancient text discoveries He also had a Cruden’s Concordance This is what he did Basically, in two years he studied the Bible By 1818, he had come to understand the prophecies that we attribute to him; specifically the 2300 days Everyone knows about that prophecy Also, the first prophecy that he came to understand that pointed to 1843 was the seven times of Leviticus 26 Then, he came to understand the 2300 days, and then in Daniel 12, the 1335 days These three prophecies were his main arguments to show that Jesus was going to come around the year 1843 He’s had this call on his heart for a long time about how he is supposed to go tell the people what he knows, but he keeps resisting it Finally… I guess… he figures out how he can silence the Lord on that subject, so he has a prayer to the Lord saying, If you want me to teach this message, someone has to invite me” That very day when he came out of the forest from prayer, a young boy came and invited him to preach the next day at his father’s church, I believe Miller was pretty frustrated, I think He thought he had squared away with the Lord, but he got called into that. So once again, like the Protestant Reformation, there was divine activity going on; providential activity in directing and controlling his work beyond just his study But his methodology was line upon line Even his enemies all the way until the end could not refute his position Most of us aren’t really locked in to the reality that he was doing the work of a reformer, in the sense that the primary thing he was opposing off the bat was the millennium That kind of foolishness —the teaching of the millennium by the Catholic Church— most of the Protestant world had bought into Miller was one hundred percent against that

So, he was one of the reformers who is connected all the way back to Wycliff and Luther, finishing that work When he came to that realization, the conviction would come to him: “Go and tell it to the world!” But he did as Moses did: “Who am I? I’m of stammering lips I am diffident I’ve never been trained as a speaker, as a public speaker No one knows about me anyway.” So Miller just kept it to himself Immediately, when he began to labor among the people, there was immediate fruits of that labor People were converted and brought back to the Lord as a result of his labors Miller, in his studies, established certain sound rules of Bible interpretation With regard to Bible exposition, he operated in a similar fashion to that of the great reformers of the immediately preceding centuries He realized that the student of the Word was to bring all the Scriptures together and allow the Bible to be its own expositor, since it is a rule of itself Most importantly, Miller understood that faith was the ultimate rule of Bible study He believed that we can have confidence that God has guarded the translation of His word, that He has thrown a barrier around it so that we can understand the truth even though we do not know Hebrew or Greek According to Sister White, “those who are engaged in proclaiming the third angel’s message are searching the Scriptures upon the same plan that Father Miller adopted In our study of the Bible we shall all do well to heed the principles set forth.” Miller used these rules to maintain “system and regularity” in his studies He was keenly aware of the human element of interpretation, and thus he operated with as much of this removed as possible There is the story of an incident where a man came to William Miller’s home William Miller was not home at the time, but the man wanted to see William Miller’s study He expected William Miller to have a bookshelf full of books So, William Miller’s daughter who was home at the time showed this man She took him into William Miller’s study… showed him his library… and all it was, was his Bible and Cruden’s Concordance The marginal references [in the Bible] are the places where human beings have seen ‘this story’ in ‘this passage’ is the same as ‘this story’ in ‘this passage,’ is the same as ‘this story’ in ‘this passage’… that’s what Miller was doing Or ‘this word’ in ‘this passage’, ‘this word’ and ‘this word’ that’s line upon line Miller’s understanding of how to study the Bible is remarkable in the sense that he was in an environment where all these different ideas about studying the Scriptures were starting to form One is, the schools themselves had begun a system of higher criticism A lot of the fault for the misinterpretations of Scripture and especially of prophecy have to do with that Counter-Reformation They were already putting their dependence upon well-known pastors or well-known biblical authors, but Miller didn’t get drawn into that I mean, he used historians and other pastors as a point of reference, but he never used them to define his message The Counter-Reformation discouraged people from believing the Word of God as it read You had these theologians that were prominent during the time of Miller that had evidently received some of the false interpretations that were current at that time The people even came to the point where they didn’t believe that Christ was literally coming in the clouds of Heaven The methods used by the theologians do not allow Scriptures to explain themselves So, there is Miller’s method which is just allowing the Scriptures to explain themselves

versus the scientific methods of the theologians To the modern intellectual, William Miller was a bad Bible scholar and a poor mathematician To the humble student of prophecy, he was one of the greatest religious pioneers this world has ever seen Who is right? We have already presented the fact that Ellen White, who was gifted with the spirit of prophecy, identified that whoever will be found giving the third angel’s message will be doing so based upon the rules that Miller had adopted He was using the only methodology which finds expression in God’s Word The clearest illustration of interpretive methodology is found in Isaiah 28 For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little: For with stammering lips and another tongue will he speak to this people. Isaiah 28:10-11 To understand doctrine, one must bring together every line of truth, every precept, here a little and there a little And if the result is in agreement with what has already been established by the Holy Spirit, then one cannot be in error This is how the Millerites studied, and the truthfulness of their conclusions is testified to by the Spirit of Prophecy On August 11th, 1840, just over a score of years after Miller’s initial two-year study of the Bible, his methodology was confirmed Revelation 9 is the history of the last of the seven trumpets In Revelation 9, you have dates: the five months in connection with the first woe, which is the fifth trumpet Then, we see a very special number that we don’t have anything similar to in the Bible: there is a time prophecy which is one year, one month, one day, and one hour Using the key, you come to the conclusion that this represents 391 years and 15 days Josiah Litch adopted Miller’s methodology and applied it He applied the rules and saw that there was a date— the end of the 391 years and 15 days— and understood that this date fell in their time period This date was not too far ahead from when he discovered it I think he discovered this in 1838 The event that he understood was going to happen in 1840 —two years ahead of his discovery When applying the key of the year-day principle, he understood that there was another prophetic event before that of 1843 He not only nailed it down to the year, but also to the very day So, he understood that on the 11th of August 1840, the Ottoman Empire would crumble down This is what he predicted This is what happened “The event exactly fulfilled the prediction When it became known, multitudes were convinced of the correctness of the principles of prophetic interpretation adopted by Miller and his associates, and a wonderful impetus was given to the advent movement.” The Great Controversy, 335 When it came to pass on August 11th, 1840, it was not only a fulfillment of prophecy… the Ottoman Empire did collapse… but it was confirming the rules, particularly the year-day principle— the primary rule of the Millerites It added a solemnity to the work that they were doing because they were predicting the end of the world in 1843 at that point in time And if they had the ability to predict the collapse of the Ottoman Empire in advance on August 11th, 1840, then what they were saying about 1843 became serious business for anyone that wished to look it over The fact that the Millerites were able to accurately predict the future adds much weight to their methods, for it is not often that one comes to right prophetic conclusions using wrong principles of exposition In 1842, according to Sister White, a portion of the prophecy contained in Habakkuk chapter 2 saw a fulfillment through the publishing of the 1843 prophetic chart This prophecy, alongside the prior fulfilment of Revelation 9 in 1840, bolstered the claims of the Millerites She states: “I have seen that the 1843 chart

was directed by the hand of the Lord, and that it should not be altered; that the figures were as He wanted them; that His hand was over and hid a mistake in some of the figures, so that none could see it, until His hand was removed.” Early Writings, 74 Joshua V. Himes published what is known as the 1843 chart It’s a chart called ‘the 1843 chart’ even though it was published in May of 1842 it has the date 1843 at the bottom of it That chart laid out the prophecies of Daniel and Revelation; it begins in 677 with the captivity of Manasseh and goes to 1843 This chart lays out what Miller came to understand and what the Millerites came to understand regarding prophecy But as they came through their first disappointment at the end of the Jewish year 1843, they came to understand that they had just seen a fulfillment of prophecy with the 1843 chart, and this was a further evidence that God was leading them and allowed them to go through the tarrying time, and this also gave them a motivation to see what it was they were missing because this vision would not lie, and even though it appeared to tarry All of the time prophecies on the charts… the 1843 chart and the 1850 chart… all the time prophecies on those charts are based on and are hinged on, you might say, upon the year-day principle Fitch was studying what Miller was teaching and then he put everything that Miller was teaching on the chart This chart, by the way, represents the foundation of Millerite teachings It has everything on it that they were teaching; these were their topics So when you study this chart you know what they were teaching, what they were believing You know, without that experience… that progressive experience which, I think, is extremely important to understand and to study as Seventh-day Adventists… we need to look at that history of the Millerites and see how God led them step by step… how He unfolded truths to them that He didn’t just give them everything all at once that they had to go through an experience So one is, God had to prepare both a message and a people And, it’s their experience that gives that We can see this in how He dealt with the ancient Israelites and how He dealt with the Jews during the time of of the Babylonian captivity; this progressive movement; the Reformation that happened under Cyrus, Darius, and Artaxerxes; or the time of Christ; or the Christian Church or the Protestant Reformation God’s dealings with man are ever the same Well, when you understand the principle of the beginning and the end… that Jesus illustrates the end with the beginning… which is repeated consistently from the beginning of the Scriptures to the end then you can, by faith, understand that the beginning of Adventism in the Millerite history illustrates the end of Adventism in the Millerite history Isaiah 28… line upon line… this is the latter rain message Those who won’t see this latter rain message and methodology —line upon line, precept upon precept— are going to go and fall backwards, be broken, snared, and taken So the latter rain message —the methodology on how to understand and teach the latter rain message— is a life-or-death testing question That life-or-death testing question was typified by the charts in the Millerite history When the 1843 chart was produced in May of 1842… you can go into William Miller’s writings… in that time period, he says that the brethren he was working with came to him and said, “Father Miller”… or I don’t know if they said ‘Father Miller’ “remove the ‘if’” The reason that they were saying that is because they had just come out with a chart in which they were saying, “1843” exclusively… …but Miller had never made that claim He says, “if my calculations are correct, somewhere in 1843, maybe a little bit before, maybe a little bit after”… but when that chart comes out, they go to Miller and say, “Hey, quit saying ‘if’ It’s 1843” Then, from that point onward,

Miller is explaining that interaction between himself and these leaders… he talks about the persecution that burst upon them from that point onward The charts become the point of reference not only in 1842, not only for the message that it’s on the chart… but without the methodology, that message wouldn’t have been developed So the chart becomes a symbol of both the methodology and the message thereafter By April 19th 1844, the Protestants have closed their doors Within a few months… well, not few months… April to October… but by the time you get to October, Sister White says, “the Protestants continue to pray to the Holy Place and Satan is answering their prayers Their rejection of the message, and therefore the methodology of those charts, was life or death It is the same way in which the rejection of line upon line and precept upon precept in Isaiah 28 is life or death to those who go and fall backward and are broken and snared and taken The charts become the symbol of the methodology that produces the two classes of worshipers It’s life or death Since the 1843 chart was directed by the hand of God, then the rules used to establish the things contained thereon must have some significance and importance The Millerites understood that at some time in the year 1843 Christ would return The utmost end of the year, according to a spring to spring reckoning of the year, was eventually identified as April 18th, 1844 When this time passed, the Millerites met with disappointment for the first time and the tarrying time of Matthew 25 had commenced It was at this point fanaticism entered the movement The fanaticism, or the erroneous teachings that were being taught that were fanatical, definitely were based upon incorrect methodology; whereas the true methodology is preparing people to give the Midnight Cry But it’s not just the methodology; it’s about the heart. It is a willingness to crucify yourself in your studies that some people aren’t willing to do because the right methodology isn’t just going to give you the prophetic sequence of events, it is going to bring things to your attention in your own life that need to be corrected in order to for you to have a life consistent with the message that you’re seeing Most of us when we have that kind of input from the Holy Spirit and from our studies, we don’t want to hear it So we end up having a that’s based upon our feelings rather than principle So I don’t know if it’s one or the other… perhaps it is a little bit of both —bad methodology and an emotional experience This produces fanaticism, and vice versa There were two classes of people in the movement at this time: the wise and the foolish virgins of Matthew 25 The wise, though disappointed by delay, fell asleep in that they lost their zeal to some extent; yet they held on to the ground already gained The foolish, lost interest and gave it all up, and slept the sleep of careless infidelity It was in the summer of 1844 that both classes would be aroused from their slumber when the cry was given, “Behold, the Bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet Him!” The Midnight Cry when you bring that subject up The Midnight Cry was what you might call ‘a course correction’ They realized that the Lord was coming October 22nd 1844, and not at the end of the Jewish year 1843 So, there again, the year-day principle was confirmed; the charts were confirmed; and Miller’s rules of Bible interpretation were confirmed I would also add that when the Millerites were disappointed when Christ did not come on October 22, 1844, some in that disappointment then cast away the shield of truth In order to untie this knot of difficulty they just threw away everything! Everything! So then now, in their minds Miller’s rules of Bible interpretation were looked upon as incorrect In contrast, those who held fast

to their faith continued on to know the Lord and realized: “no, the prophecy had indeed been fulfilled” The clarity of that truth… and because those people that heard that truth at the Exeter camp meeting recognized the clarity because it was based upon the methodology that they had all been using for a long time… they could see the validity of that message But they were using that identification as the final warning to tell those people that are in the Protestant churches that ‘because of your methodology the conclusions that you’re holding to are taking you back to Rome You become a daughter of Babylon by holding to that false methodology and you need to get out of there because you’re about ready to die.’ So the methodology is what Snow used to produce the Midnight Cry The clarity of that methodology allows those people to be used in a powerful way But I think the message they understood from it was more about “you need to get out of those corrupted churches.” Those churches were corrupted because of false methodology In her first vision, Sister White clearly identifies that the Midnight Cry is the bright light set up at the beginning of the path of the Advent band, which shines all along the path and gives light for their feet so that they might not stumble Furthermore, those who deny this light were seen falling off the path path into the wicked world below Not surprisingly, the message given that summer was based upon the very same principles of interpretation that Miller established a quarter of a century earlier The Midnight Cry was the Cadillac; it’s the the premier development of the message of the Millerites The Millerites believed the world was coming to an end initially in 1843 1843 passes Now, they know the end is 1844 But using the correct methodology… If you read Samuel Snow’s study, that’s exactly what he was doing He was using line upon line Using the line upon line methodology, Samuel Snow comes to understand that the appointed time for the vision to speak is October 22nd, 1844 We have come to a point of transition The Midnight Cry had directed the Advent people to October 22nd, 1844 This, they thought, marked the glorious return of our dear Savior When this time passed they met with sore disappointment, such that can hardly be imagined Were the prophecies wrong? Had they been studying the Bible incorrectly all this time? Were the higher critics right after all? Thus far we have shown that Miller used a sound and systematic set of rules in order to understand the Bible We have listed historical examples that confirm the use of his rules and more importantly we have defended these examples with clear statements from the Spirit of Prophecy However, there is a problem that we have yet to address, and the only way to understand the issue is to continue on through Adventist history If the same methods used by Miller were employed by Snow to establish the truth of the Midnight Cry, and that message is to light up the path of the Advent band until they reach the utmost end of the path, then is it not reasonable to suggest that all Adventists who walk in the light of that path must be using the same principles that first unveiled the light? As they looked to Christ by faith… as they realized that He had indeed gone from the Holy Place to the Most Holy Place in the sanctuary in Heaven… when they went into the sanctuary as is described in Revelation 11:19… they discovered the Ark of the Covenant They then realized as they studied the Scriptures they realized that in that Ark of the Covenant was the law of God and that “Hey! the law of God has never been changed! Never been changed It’s the same law that was given to Moses on Mount Sinai”… From that point, they came to a correct understanding

of the mark of the beast and the Sabbath-Sunday issue This is a thing that is most essential for Seventh-day Adventists to understand: that if you reject the Midnight Cry see it’s all tied together if you reject the Midnight Cry then you’re not led into the sanctuary; and you’re not led into the Most Holy Place of the Sanctuary in Heaven; and you do not have a correct understanding of the Sabbath-Sunday issue or the change of the Sabbath by the papacy It’s all tied together and connected to the Midnight Cry: if you reject the Midnight Cry, you reject Miller’s methodology Those people in Adventism who do not realize what they are doing when they reject Miller’s rules of Bible interpretation they do not recognize what they are doing because they are rejecting everything else that comes afterwards It says, “but God had led His people in the great advent movement; His power and glory had attended the work, and He would not permit it to end in darkness and disappointment, to be reproached as a false and fanatical excitement He would not leave His word involved in doubt and uncertainty Though many abandoned their former reckoning of the prophetic periods and denied the correctness of the movement based thereon, others were unwilling to renounce points of faith and experience that were sustained by the Scriptures and by the witness of the Spirit of God They believed that they—”… notice these words… “they believed that they had adopted sound principles of interpretation in their study of the prophecies.” What are those sound interpretations? They cannot be anything other than… as we call them… Miller’s Rules of Bible Interpretation “And that it was their duty to hold fast the truths already gained—” … of course, from those sound principles of interpretation… “and to continue in the same course of Biblical research.” The same course of Biblical research The same rules that Miller and his associates gave and used “With earnest prayer they reviewed their position and studied the Scriptures to discover the mistake As they could see no error in their reckoning of the prophetic periods, they were led to examine more closely the subject of the sanctuary.” I would like to add to this— mark this: If they had adopted other principles of Bible interpretation, I guarantee you —I guarantee you— they would never have come to an understanding a correct understanding of the Sanctuary, of the Sabbath, and of the state of the dead… or any, or any of the truths that we as Seventh-day Adventist believers hold sacred It was during this time that the early Adventists wrestled day and night to affirm the truth for the time They reviewed the past in light of the present and often spent whole nights praying for light The result was a systematic and comprehensive view of what would become the Seventh-day Adventist message and mission This found expression on the 1850 prophetic chart Sister White states that she saw “that there was a prophecy of this chart in the Bible,” and also that God showed her the necessity of getting out a chart That it was needed and that the truth made plain upon tables would affect much and would cause souls to come to the knowledge of the truth After the disappointment, the Adventists came together and they began to study God’s word using the same methods as Miller… but trying to understand where they went wrong Those truths that they came to understand— the first, second, and third angel’s messages, the sanctuary they now put all the truth that were on the 1843 chart and they put them on a new chart which is called the 1850 chart or the Nichols’ chart and they included these new truths In Habakkuk 2, which Sister White says in The Great Controversy is the point of reference for the production of the 1843 chart… Habakkuk 2 says “write it plain upon tables”—‘tables’

in the plural There had to be two tables It couldn’t just be the 1843 chart; there had to be at least two because these two tables have been typified by the two tables of the ten commandments When the Lord entered into covenant with Ancient Israel, He gave them two tables When He entered into covenant with Modern Israel, He gave them two tables The two tables of the ten commandments represent, typify, the two tables of the 1843 and the 1850 chart So, the 1850 chart Yes, Sister White says God was in the publishment of it But it doesn’t stop there This is profound stuff The 1850 chart becomes the symbol of of the covenant relationship that the Lord entered into with Adventism at the beginning You had to have both of the charts in place It is not an accident that it was 1850 The number ‘50’ points us to Pentecost, Jubilee, the law of God, and so many other things In 1850, He entered into covenant with them at the beginning of Adventism It’s not an accident that in the middle of the history from 1844 to 1850… in 1846… you have so many references to the covenant relationship The covenant is actually being accomplished after October 22nd, 1844 because He’s making a covenant with the people that are living in the time period of the “Most Holy Place dispensation” So, He has to get them into the Most Holy Place before He can enter into this Most Holy Place covenant with them Thus, they entered in by faith on October 22nd, 1844 In 1846, James and Ellen White began to keep the Sabbath The Sabbath is a symbol of the covenant They were married in 1846 a symbol of the covenant Her name was changed from Harmon to White a symbol of a covenant She was re-baptized in 1846 So, we have witness after witness that this is the history… 1844 to 1850… in which the Lord was finalizing or had reached the climax of His covenant relationship The production of the 1850 chart is that very statement The human motivation and divine… I don’t know… but, the divine-human motivation for the 1850 chart is that they were ready to take the message out to the world there But, from 1844 to 1850, they were not doing any public evangelism They were hammering out what these pillar truths were and coming to understand who and what they were They viewed the 1850 chart as their first public evangelism tool, not recognizing that what it was is that the Lord had finished His covenant bonding or whatever… with those people in 1850, and that now He was willing to take them on as His covenant people through history Thirteen years later, they started turning in the wrong direction in 1863 When we look at Adventism, I knew when I first became an Adventist, that Adventism began in the Millerite movement But 35 years later, Adventists often just speak of 1863 as the beginning of Adventism when the church officially formed and they ignore that earlier history One reason is: many Adventists are embarrassed by it They see that Miller just made a mistake He was wrong He got the wrong date They don’t understand how he was correct in his methodology and correct in how he understood the time prophecies But, the only error was that he interpreted them as being the second coming of Christ But, that was in God’s providence because Miller still marks the beginning of the judgment… something that Miller thought was a day… and we are in that day of judgment… it’s just not a literal earthly day It’s a period of time For someone to believe that we can forget about this history and that this was just the old Millerites and that they didn’t understand things, and therefore we need to develop a totally new system of understanding in interpreting the Bible… to do so would be to walk contrary to the Lord’s work in that history The foundations have been established We have many, many quotes from Ellen White that say this is the foundation: that which was established in the time period of 1840 to 1844 This you can show repeatedly So, there is nothing that we should touch In 1863, the same year that the Adventists officially organized, a significant piece of Adventist history was published: the 1863 chart Unlike the two tables embracing the positions of the Millerites and the early Adventists, this chart was not guided by the hand of the Lord The 1863 chart has no text on it,

thus disqualifying it from being a fulfillment of the tables prophesied of in Habakkuk chapter 2 The other noticeable difference is the fact that the seven times of Leviticus has been removed from the 1863 rendition These differences, though seemingly insignificant, show a change in the direction of the church The question is: was it for better or was it for worse? The method of Bible interpretation began to be less appreciated by then… by 1863 Once you change the method of study, you’re going to come to different conclusions So, the arguments that are used from that time on to reject Leviticus 26 as a basis for a 2520-year period are the methods of Protestantism, and not the methods of Miller The rejection of the 2520 comes from this methodology of grammatical expertise If you go into Leviticus 25 and Leviticus 26 where the angel Gabriel led William Miller to his conclusion about the seven times, you will find that there is no way that William Miller was using the grammar of the Hebrew to make his conclusion So, to take him to task at the grammatical level, when it’s clear that he was going by context, you will see that William Miller was using the context of chapter 25 to come to understand what he understood about chapter 26 of Leviticus But in 1863, when the turn in the road took place for Adventism with all the things that were going on, you can see the beginnings of this corrupted methodology coming in It begins right at the very first prophetic truth that Miller understood It begins at the 2520 You know, that’s divine poetry, or whatever There are a lot of truths Miller introduced, but the first one he found is the first one they go after In 1863, the church was established in a legal way Organization in general is necessary and is good If you study the history of the apostolic church or of the Old Testament church, God always has an organized church So the organization of God’s church was needed, was important Nevertheless, there are different ways to go about organizing something And the Millerites understood organization… and we understand that the way they tried to organize the church and they organized the church, was a repetition of what the Jews did when they claimed that they want to have a king God had already established a system in that time period He had judges, He had prophets ruling His people… but they needed a king Twenty years after the church was organized, Adventism began to be undermined In 1883, a shocking step had been taken by Brother Uriah Smith They developed pretty quickly into what the Bible describes as Laodicea They have their rich heritage They believe, they know, that God has set them on a firm foundation They hold strong to it, but then they would also make some totally wrong moves They would immediately disconnect from the Spirit of Prophecy by denying or criticizing or doubting the gift that God had given to Ellen White This was the process that you can see demonstrated through Uriah Smith and in other church leaders afterwards Uriah Smith, a decade or two later, said that some portions of Ellen White’s writings… some portions of the Spirit of Prophecy… were inspired and some were not He was saying that whenever Sister White wrote books like Great Controversy and Patriarchs and Prophets and books of that sort… those are inspired But those testimonies? No That Uriah Smith has been rebuked by Ellen White is what people conjecture Therefore, he forms a theory that certain passages of Sister White’s writings are not inspired It’s only inspired when she was shown, or when ‘the angel said’ But if she writes a letter of rebuke to Uriah Smith, that’s not inspired He comes out and publishes that in The Review And, Sister White opposes him for these

false teachings on inspiration To make things worse, General Conference President George I. Butler in the following year wrote a series of articles on the degrees of inspiration, presumedly to harmonize the quarrels over the reliability of Sister White’s writings Butler then goes even further by saying, “well, some portions of the Bible are inspired and some are not.” Elder Butler, who was the President, starts to write ten articles These articles would show that the Bible has different degrees of inspiration He would come to some very strange conclusions like believing that some books weren’t even inspired at all, or that some only had parts [that were inspired], some were only a little bit, or that some were totally inspired And, this is an attack this is an attack on the foundations that have been laid and have been set This is the result of a lessening of an appreciation for those rules of Bible interpretation that were laid down by William Miller So from 1863, by the time you get to 1884… 1883… 1884… that history which is about twenty years… their understanding of methodology has reached a point where they are full enough of themselves that they can begin to pick and choose which portions of the Spirit of Prophecy and which portions of the Bible are inspired Then, four years later at the 1888 General Conference session, by vote they reject the authority of both the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy It’s a progressive development that only gets worse the further we go down through time And we start to see that something going off and starting to go wrong Ellen White would write against this and would correct it They had implemented already in their teachings of schools… of theology schools There was some process starting; it was not only going in the wrong direction, but it was disconnecting from the foundation that had been set This is a continuing fulfillment of William Miller’s dream Now the jewels of truth are being mixed with the rubbish of the doctrines of the world When Uriah Smith and George Butler made these statements about the inspiration of Scripture, they were going backwards to the doctrines held by apostate Protestants Ever since I’ve been an Adventist, there’s this idea what we would call “thought inspiration”; that just the thoughts are inspired And so, a writer can write things out, but because they are just his thoughts, it has an imperfect sort of nature in which the inspiration is written out One of the reasons why this is done, I believe, in Adventism, is that it weakens Ellen White So, “Ellen White just copies she borrows from different people you can’t trust her chronology because she’s just taking these words from other people, or that she has this general thing where she’s only kind of inspired or that she is a good devotional writer but we can’t depend upon her as we would depend upon the Scriptures.” Such opinions and positions are very predominant in Adventism Any Adventist watching this… the vast majority of them are going to believe that about Ellen White So, when we read what Ellen White says about inspiration, she counters these views She is also quite clear that inspiration is a combination of divinity and humanity Just as divinity and humanity do not commit sin and cannot commit sin, so also the Scriptures… that Divine Element and the human element put together thus become the word of God They are a perfect unity of human and divine This is very different than ‘thought inspiration’ The way I try to put it is: it’s ‘person inspiration’ God is inspiring that person When we look at verses like “no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation… for holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost”… Peter is trying to tell us that the Holy Spirit doesn’t just inspire the Scripture, but it inspires it is used to interpret it Thus, the person reading the Scriptures, needs the same Holy Spirit that gave the Scriptures When you weaken the Scriptures in that way

it leads to man putting himself above the Scriptures Thus, in the first generation of Adventism following the history of the Millerites we see a subtle turning away from the truths and principles given by God through William Miller and his associates We see the commencement of a scattering that would only get worse, as foreshadowed in Miller’s second dream We see a turning away from the foundations that were firmly established in the rise of the Great Second Advent Movement and a returning to the vomit of apostate Protestant methodologies, which ultimately find their origin in the rationalistic philosophy of the seventeenth and eighteenth centuries Almost imperceptibly, the influences of rationalistic philosophy of the higher critics was making its way into the minds of the Adventist people, soon to find expression in a most bold and blasphemous manner within our ranks Just four years after the publication of Butler’s articles on degrees of inspiration, the infamous 1888 General Conference was held in Minneapolis There were two sides to the controversy: on one stood Uriah Smith and General Conference President George Butler, on the other stood Ellet J. Waggoner and Alonzo T. Jones So that was hanging over everyone’s head as 1888 was approaching: There was the rejection of the Spirit of Prophecy by the leadership of the educational work, the publishing work… There was the rejection of the authority of God’s word by the General Conference… There was a bad General Conference session in 1886… There were personalities that were on edge… There were prophetic disagreements… There were disagreements and hurt feelings over the General Conference session two years before The main players were Jones, Waggoner, and Sister White in terms of presenting the true message They reached the point in that history when Sister White decided she was going to leave because she could see at the meetings that the Holy Spirit was not being listened to by the leadership or by anyone else there at the meetings But, her angel told her, “No, you must stay and record this They’re repeating the rebellion of Korah, Dathan, and Abiram.” So, Sister White stayed there But you can go through and show that in that meeting, the Holy Spirit was rejected; the Bible was rejected; the authority of the Spirit of Prophecy was rejected; the authority of the two selected messengers, Jones and Waggoner, was rejected This leads into the aftermath following 1888 that just continues to develop into the Omega Apostasy “An unwillingness to yield up preconceived opinions, and to accept this truth, lay at the foundation of a large share of the opposition manifested at Minneapolis against the Lord’s message through Brethren E.J. Waggoner and A.T. Jones By exciting that opposition Satan succeeded in shutting away from our people, in a great measure, the special power of the Holy Spirit that God longed to impart to them The enemy prevented them from obtaining that efficiency which might have been theirs in carrying the truth to the world, as the apostles proclaimed it after the day of Pentecost The light that is to lighten the whole earth with its glory was resisted, and by the action of our own brethren has been in a great degree kept away from the world.” Selected Messages, book 1, 234 The 1888 meeting marked the beginning of a new era in Adventism The old standard bearers now resting in their graves gave place to new ones, and with the transition of responsibility came new ideas concerning old established truths As already instated, the nature of inspiration was under consideration In addition to this, the most notable among the discussions had in the dawn of this new era was the discussion of the “daily,”

as found in the book of Daniel By 1901 an Adventist leader in Germany, Louis Conradi, had reintroduced the Protestant definition of the “daily,” which was that the “daily” in the book of Daniel represents Christ’s sanctuary ministry Whereas, the pioneers of Adventism understood that the “daily” represented paganism He rediscovered this old idea and introduced a totally new understanding, which was totally contrary to what Miller had been teaching what the “daily” meant Basically, Miller had understood through the use of the correct methodology, in contrast to what any other theologian had understood before him, that the “daily” has to be a symbol or a word that represents paganism During the time of A. G. Daniels, W. W. Prescott, even E. J. Waggoner and others… it is very evident that they got their false view of the daily from apostate Protestantism This is the old view of the daily They went back into apostate Protestantism, against the will of God, and resurrected this in the minds of the people The only way that you can believe that Antiochus Epiphanies was the little horn is by going to the world’s method… apostate Protestantism and Catholicism… their methods of Bible interpretation That is the only way you can get that false interpretation This is directly connected with the subject of the “daily” If you do not study the meaning of the “daily”, you cannot understand how this little word can make such a difference But in the whole discussion one point that I think is very important to see is that in the whole discussion that they had about the meaning of the “daily,” one side would always say: “Yes…” But Ellen White said in Early Writings page 74 that those who were proclaiming the first angel’s message were those who had the correct view on the ‘daily’ Who were the people that proclaimed the first angel’s message? The Millerites They proclaimed it in this very specific time period… they proclaimed it from 1840, more or less… you can go a little bit further, to 1844 This is the time period when this proclamation ended These people [the Millerites] had the correct view of the “daily”, which we see was represented on the chart so this is the correct view of the “daily” What would you have to do to go against such a clear statement? You either have to doubt the Spirit of Prophecy which was happening… or you have to change the text and theologically make a point about it This is also what they did Both things happened to get rid of this very clear statement defending the old paths So we see at the result of the end of the second generation W.W. Prescott and others were pushing for a re-writing of Adventist literature in the 1919 Bible Conference One reason is they were looking at Ellen White’s writings They wanted to update them and make them more modern; they want to take her old books and make new editions and correct all the ‘errors’ that existed But the errors are really in their own minds and in their own self-exaltation and beliefs about their own abilities The golden thread which binds together the various subjects scrutinized in the latter part of the 19th century and the early part of the 20th is interpretation This new generation of Adventists seemed to have forgotten the way the Lord had led, and His teaching in the past Methods which had been firmly established by God, through Miller and his associates several decades earlier, were turned away from The most terrifying reality is that this generation turned back to the very methods rejected by the early Advent pioneers Daniels and Prescott are basically the leaders towards the end of this time period, but both of them had to leave their position, according to Ellen White She stepped in and said that Prescott has to be removed from his position… even if he was blessed, even if the Lord wanted him is this position initially… He wanted him to step down from writing or from leading out in The Review and Herald magazine

Ellen White was saying that Daniels had ideas that came from evil angels So the work that they were doing was really contrary and was really a counter work happening within the church They had brought in They had brought in fallen Protestant ideas and theology This phase of Adventism set the stage for the outright apostasy which was to come in the following decades As it began with a controversial conference, so too it ends W.W. Prescott was struggling over the initial presentation of The Great Controversy, the whole Conflict of the Ages series, and Spiritual Gifts, and then getting redone in Spirit of Prophecy There were some grammatical changes that took place, and it was a problem for him because he believed in verbal inspiration So as he’s approaching 1919, he’s making all kinds of accusations So, they decide to come together and have a Bible study and listen to W.W. Prescott’s presentation on what he believed the Advent message should be He essentially gutted all prophetic understanding out of the Advent message He even wanted to discard the 2300 years; they wouldn’t let him do that However, what they did did at the end of that Bible Conference in 1919 is this: even though they disagreed with him on almost all of his reason for removing the prophetic message out of the historical narrative of the Scriptures, they went ahead and took all of his presentations that had been transcribed and turned them into a book that was called The Doctrine of Christ The Doctrine of Christ, to put it simply, is centered around the idea that we have a message that is centered on Christ This does not sound wrong on its own But this type of Christocentric approach for Prescott means getting rid of everything else So we only have Christ just the message of Christ on the Cross and nothing else It might be a little bit extreme how I explained it but this is the result, the consequence, of this book and this work This book immediately became an important book for the education of all future pastors and church teachers, etc Prescott developed the idea that “There is prophecy and there is gospel… we need to focus on the gospel… this is our message: Christ died for us” This is the good side or the easy side or the lovely side of this But it removes the message of judgment; there’s no Sword that separates the true from the false, etc… Prescott does not have this aspect I do not say that he officially denied it, but he basically gets rid of this part This is now the next step… this is happening and this is the foundation of what we have in our church today Often times, there is no prophecy any longer because “it’s okay… it’s officially okay… we have a Christocentric approach” “The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded Our religion would be changed The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error A new organization would be established Books of a new order would be written A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced the founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.” Selected Messages, book 1, 204 The idea that the name of the book is The Doctrine of Christ and that we’re calling it ‘Christocentric’… the emphasis of Christ there is because this is the counterfeit Christ,

and that book is a symbol of when the counterfeit Christ Christ came into Adventism Sister White has a statement where she says, “they will change leaders and not know it” They changed leaders, at least right there… in 1888 they rejected God, they rejected the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy But with that book The Doctrine of Christ, prophetically, the third generation —the Adventist Church—just changed leaders and didn’t even know it You cannot have the gospel without prophecy The plainest, clearest evidence of that… and you can give a mountain of evidence to prove this… is Genesis 3:15 Genesis 3:15 is the seed of the gospel Genesis 3:15 is both the gospel and prophecy You cannot read Genesis 3:15 without seeing prophecy and the gospel blended But, this is what many men in Adventism have endeavored to do, to separate those two. You cannot do that Once Adventism adopted the Christocentric view of the Bible as put forth by Prescott, it lost the “sure word of prophecy” Spiritual declension quickly followed Our church makes a very bold step back to the world It makes a very strong effort in this time period to implement worldly methodology —the historical critical method Today, it is sometimes called ‘the historical-grammatical method’, which is a variation of it, or the historical method This method has been officially is implemented in our church’s way of studying the Bible It is taught in schools; it’s the foundation for the Biblical Research Institute; it’s now in there This is a long process; it wouldn’t have been possible in the beginning But now it’s there and has totally replaced the original methodology We have to understand that this methodology replaces replaces the word of the prophet They say “We do not need Ellen White to tell us what something means” We cannot even use her statements because they contradict… not necessarily in their content, but by way of methodology it contradicts the way of understanding the Bible if you use the modern methods The modern methodology is basically set upon a totally different foundation; it is set upon human understanding, skill, and intellect In the late 1930’s, the Adventist church began the process of accreditation for its educational institutions With this government recognition came the benefits of prestige and funding However, at the root of accreditation lies a great evil —a marriage to the state Once received, accreditation would require Adventist institutions to submit to the educational standards of the state for weal or for woe What, then, would be the result when Adventist schools are required to teach something contrary to our Faith? Would they fight against such evils? Or, would they surrender to the hand that feeds them? In 1931 our church decided that our educational institutions need to be under the umbrella of the state The programs of the state are acknowledged, and our church now puts our institutions —the theological institute at the beginning, then the medical institute— under the state following the state’s rules and principles, receiving money, etc This totally breaks up the whole ‘safety’ of a well-established education, which is totally independent from the world One of the elements that we see in the Counter Reformation that the Jesuits brought in was the educational system and how they addressed that So we see in Adventism that we started out studying the Bible Miller was a farmer, right? We believe that we can just study the Bible for ourselves We don’t need to be scholars, we don’t have to be trained in schools of divinity, we don’t need to know Hebrew and Greek But in Adventism, we have educational institutions Ellen White is very clear on what she believes should be taught in our schools, but this counsel continues to be ignored One is, that we end up putting people in our schools

who are trained in worldly schools In our schools of theology, we have our ministers go to Protestant schools and get degrees so that they can be qualified This leads to accreditation Accreditation is just simply having a school that is recognized by someone else; in this case it would be the Protestant churches recognizing our schools so that we could give degrees …we could say, “Well, if we’re having a school that’s teaching people to be a psychologist, then maybe…or whatever, if you want to have that But when it comes to theology, this makes no sense This is Babylon That’s the second angel’s message—”Babylon has fallen” the Protestant churches constitute Babylon To go to their schools to get approval is an extremely dangerous step The fruit of that, of course, we see happening in the third generation after the 1919 Bible Conference So there we definitely have full-blown accreditation If somebody looks at the early writings of the pioneers and then looks at what’s coming out of Andrews University today, there is a sharp contrast There is just a completely different system of study, of methodology In an attempt to be seen more favorable by the Protestant denominations, the Adventist church held secret meetings with two highly respected Protestant authors The result of these meetings was the book Questions on Doctrine A book of a new order that would erode the foundation that the Lord had built His church upon I have here the book Questions on Doctrine, which was published in 1957 The publication of this book is based upon the promptings of this guy here, Walter Martin, who published The Kingdom of the Cults Walter Martin is a Protestant expert… or was I’m sure he is not alive any longer In that time period of history…the 40s, the 50s he was the expert in the Christian World of identifying cults This book is called The Kingdom of the Cults The Adventist Church at this point in history doesn’t want to be labeled a cult any longer They have been receiving this accusation since the Millerite time period, so Leroy Froom and others initiate a dialogue between Walter Martin with the purpose of correcting the doctrines of Adventism according to the Protestant understanding of ‘correct,’ in order to make Adventism acceptable to Protestantism That was the purpose of this interaction and the dialogue of this book Walter Martin was writing a series on churches that were founded in the Bible, at least to some degree His approach was: “Can we understand the Adventist Church to be a cult? Can we see it as a Christian Church? or as Christians? Are they Protestants? Or are they just a sect?” He approached the Adventist Church in order to find out what we really believe and where we stand The outcome was that, yes, we were accepted as Christians The Adventist leadership understood that they needed to make sure that this was the outcome They wanted to be Christians; they didn’t want to be seen as a sect They agreed to these meetings in order to tell those men what our beliefs are This doesn’t sound too bad, but the problem was that we had to make a lot of compromises in order to gain this acceptance The Adventist Church established a committee This committee had an acronym It was a secret team of men The acronym was “FREDA” standing for Froom, Read, and Anderson This team of men had other men in the background One of these men who was working behind the scenes was a man named Cottrell, who would eventually correct them and also resume the writings into this book,

Questions on Doctrine Questions on Doctrine is the outcome of these discussions It is something that this two men demanded; that our church puts officially in place what we believe Of course the issues were: How do we see the Antichrist? Is it the pope or do we have a different understanding today? Another point was the sacrifice of Christ Was it complete at the Cross or is there something like an investigative judgment that continues the process of investigation? We made major compromises at that point Our church publishing house didn’t want to print this book But the compromise was made on a higher level, and we had to print it anyways; it became a best-seller In The Ministry Magazine, December, 1946… The Ministry Magazine is a publication that the Adventist Church puts together for the pastors… they make this claim: it says, “When the finished product carries the stamp of the Standard Publishing House, it bears denominational approval It is then a denominational, and not a private publication It is a measure of authority.” So, in the publication that is sent to Adventist pastors in 1946, they take a decided stand by saying “When the Seventh-day Adventist Church publishes something, that is a reflection of what they believe” So, when you start dealing with a book such as Questions on Doctrine in the context of Sister White having a prophecy about the Omega Apostasy in which she says, “books of a new order will be written” in that context, you first want to note that the Adventist church has said plainly and directly, “when we put something in a publication that has our corporate stamp upon it, that’s what we believe” This is from the fall 1956 Eternity Magazine Eternity Magazine is an Evangelical Christianity publication Walter Martin, the guy that is the authority of The Kingdom of the Cults in that history and the one that Froom interacted with to produce Questions on Doctrine… in Eternity Magazine, Walter Martin is is giving a summary of what he instructed Adventism to do as they publish this book Questions on Doctrine I’m going quote Walter Martin from Eternity Magazine, 1956: “It was perceived that Adventists were strenuously denying certain doctrinal positions which had been previously attributed to them” So, he realized when he started interacting with them that “oh there were things that we thought the Adventists believed, but but Froom and these guys… they’re strenuously denying them” That is what Martin is saying here I’ll read it again: “It was perceived that Adventists were strenuously denying certain doctrinal positions which had been previously attributed to them The position of the Adventists seems to be a new position Adventism in 1956 is a far cry from Adventism of the past The position of Adventism has either been revised or reversed SDA leaders repudiated that seventh-day Sabbath keeping is a basis of salvation or in any way a means of salvation That’s one of the things that was repudiated The doctrine that we must overcome sin by uniting with divinity and perfectly keeping God’s law in order to be saved was changed to salvation, which they, Seventh-day Adventists and Evangelicals confessed to be Christ alone.” If you are not familiar and it doesn’t seem like many people are familiar with what it means to believe that your salvation is by Christ alone… you can hear that and say “amen” because our salvation is by Christ alone But in this context, it means that Christ was simply our Substitute, but he was not our Example He is our Substitute: the law demands that sin be paid The price for sin has to be paid, and Christ paid the price for your sins and my sins Though, He knew no sin, He paid that price So, in that sense He was our Substitute In order for you and I to be saved we need to have that substitutionary work But another role of Christ in salvation is His role as an example He came to Earth and purposely took

sinful flesh upon Himself, combining humanity with divinity in order to show you and I… who are born into this world with sinful flesh… that we can overcome sin fully and completely, and that we can do so by following the example that Christ gave to us the argument evolves to the point in this discussion, if you’re not familiar with the argument, is that if Christ was perfect as a human being as was Adam before he fell, if he took a fleshly human experience as Adam before sin came into the history of this world, then He does not know what it is like to struggle with fallen human nature and therefore He cannot be our Example On the contrary, Christ came to earth, and took our sinful flesh, and gave us an example that if we would surrender our will unto Him as He surrendered His will unto His Father, then we can have every power that He was given while He walked and worked among men That power will not only allow us to work, but it is the power that will allow us to put away and overcome sin for eternity That power, is provided through His His work as our Example And, as our Example, logic and truth require that He took sinful flesh to establish that example “Salvation is by grace alone through the blood of Jesus Christ apart from any works of the law The doctrine that Christ’s work was not accomplished on Calvary, but since 1844 has been carrying on a second ministry, was totally repudiated The doctrine that Christ has been doing a work in the Most Holy Place since 1844 was totally repudiated” in this book Questions on Doctrine This is one of the points of battle in that history Adventism to the Protestants was repudiating the concept that salvation was more than the Cross because in The Great Controversy Sister White has a statement where she says: “The work that Christ is doing in the Most Holy Place in the heavenly sanctuary above is as essential”… she uses the word ‘essential’ “as the work that He had done on the Cross.” “The teaching that Christ took man’s fallen sinful nature upon Him and overcome sin with that nature was disavowed again and again by responsible leaders of the Seventh-day Adventist Church and was repudiated with horror.” Eternity Magazine, 1956 So, technically, since 1957 Adventism no longer believes that the work that Christ is doing in the Most Holy Place is essential; they do not believe that Christ took man’s sinful nature; they do not believe that Christ that Christ is our Substitute and our Example They only believe that He is our Substitute, and that is what is enshrined in this book in 1957 that is the primary argument that shows that at the end of the third generation… the third generation beginning with the publication of the book The Doctrine of Christ in which the prophetic Christ is removed from the Bible by W. W. Prescott… and that generation ending third generation being the same generation that Sister White prophesied about when books of a new order would be written it ends with the book Questions on Doctrine when Adventism officially published that their salvation theology is identical to the salvation theology of apostate Protestantism This why we mark the darkness that precedes every reform movement as arriving in Adventism in 1957 “In 1968, I raise the question here, can two walk together unless they be agreed?— after Elder Pierre Lanares, Elder Roland Hegstad, Elder Leif Tobiassen of Andrews University meet with Pope Pius VI, the Seventh-day Adventist Church and a Vatican secretariat joined an arm of the World Council of Churches called The World Confession Families, now called The Christian World Communion The Seventh-day Adventists joined the Faith and Order Commission of The World Council of Churches as personal observers.” This is in 1968

For years the Adventist church said: “We’ve joined this World Council of Churches and some of its organizations, but we’re only personal observers.” What they don’t tell their Adventist lay people is that if you’re a personal observer, it means you’re a full voting member So from 1968 onward, the Adventist church has been in bed with the papacy, making decisions with the papacy with full voting rights That to me is what I would define darkness as Brothers and Sisters, think about this one: Since 1968, they’ve been working with the World Council of Churches as full voting members In 1982 they signed the “Baptism, Eucharist, and Ministry” document of the World Council of Churches What that means is that they accept the position on the Lord’s Supper as held by the Catholic Church Let me read this to you from The Great Controversy, page 59: “The Scriptural ordinance of the Lord’s Supper had been supplanted by the idolatrous sacrifice of the mass.” So, when they agreed to this council, they’re saying the Catholic mass is just as valid as the Lord’s Supper This is from Sister White: “The Scriptural ordinance of the Lord’s Supper had been supplanted by the idolatrous sacrifice of the mass Papal priests pretended, by their senseless mummery, to convert the simple bread and wine into the actual ‘body and blood of Christ’ With blasphemous presumption, they openly claimed the power of creating God, the Creator of all things Christians were required, on pain of death, to avow their faith in this horrible, Heaven-insulting heresy Multitudes who refused were given to the flames.” In the Dark Ages, the Catholic Church says they only murdered 50 million people, the Protestants say 100 million people Between 50 and 100 million people were murdered during the Dark Ages; many of them were murdered because they refused to accept the Catholic mass In 1982 the Seventh-day Adventist Church signed an agreement with the World Council of Churches saying the Catholic mass is ‘OK’ I wonder if all those martyrs during the Dark Ages who shed their lives over the issue of the mass… if they could be resurrected and give a testimony about whether they thought the Adventist church was in darkness or not for signing that kind of document… I wonder which way they would vote We have traced 1400 years of the annals of sacred history, from the time of the rise of the papacy in the Dark Ages, down to the great Millerite Movement of 1798 to 1844 We have seen the small band of early Adventists as they accepted the Sabbath truth in 1846 develop into the establishment of the Seventh-day Adventist Church in 1863, from the rejection of the Latter Rain in 1888 to the publishing of the heretical books: The Doctrine of Christ and Questions on Doctrine Now, we arrive at the final generation of this earth’s history Adventism, blinded by the erroneous doctrines that have crept into the church, was about to miss a remarkable fulfillment of prophecy —one that would point to the imminent Second Coming of Christ A battle in the conflict between the biblical figures of the King of the South and the King of the North, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, was about to take place Manuscript Releases, volume 13, page 394… from my human perspective, it is the most important Spirit of Prophecy reference to Daniel 11 “We have no time to lose Troublous times are before us The world is stirred with the spirit of war Soon the scenes of trouble spoken of in the prophecies will take place The prophecy in the eleventh of Daniel has nearly reached its complete fulfillment.” So here she’s referencing Daniel 11 She says it’s nearly reached its complete fulfillment, which is saying that it isn’t completely finished Sister White says in The Great Controversy page 356 that the Time of the End is 1798 Sister White is living well past 1798 So when she writes this, in the time period that she wrote it, 1904 She’s well beyond 1798 Even so, she is still talking about the future fulfillment of Daniel 11

“The prophecy in the eleventh of Daniel has nearly reached its complete fulfillment Much of the history that has taken place in fulfillment of this prophecy will be repeated.” So, Sister White is living after 1798, yet she is pointing you and me to the future fulfillment of Daniel 11, It is in the process of being fulfilled, but it has not been fulfilled yet She says a key to understanding Daniel 11 is that much of the previous history that was fulfilled before the time period when she penned this is going to be repeated at the conclusion of Daniel 11 In verse 40 it says, “And at the time of the end” This is 1798 Therefore, the future fulfillment must be the verses that come after 1798 So verse 40 part B all the way through verse 45 is the portion of Daniel that has nearly reached its complete fulfillment Therefore, she is telling us that as we come to the end of the world as God’s people some time after 1798, we need to look to the prophecy of Daniel 11 In Selected Messages, book 1, page 121 Sister White says: “A revival of true godliness among us is the greatest and most urgent of all our needs To seek this should be our first work.” So, our first work is to seek for a revival Then, in Testimonies to Ministers, page 113 she says: “When the books of Daniel and Revelation are better understood, there will be seen among us a great revival.” Sister White tells us that our greatest need is for a revival. But she also tells us that it is from the books of Daniel and Revelation that this revival will be produced What we’re understanding is that Jesus illustrates the end from the beginning The beginning of Adventism was Millerite history In 1798, which was the time of the end… which is also Daniel 11:40… in 1798 the book of Daniel was unsealed William Miller was used to take the light that was unsealed in that history That light was used to put into a message that tested the Millerite movement and brought a group of people into covenant relationship with the Lord as He passed by the Protestants of that time period And, because Jesus illustrates the end from the beginning, we know that in our history after a period of darkness… 1957 to 1989… there is a promise that at the time of the end the book of Daniel would be unsealed What was unsealed in that time period, was Daniel 11:40-45 This truth was designed by God to produce the final revival among God’s people and to develop and bring about the class of people that we call the 144,000 Let us now look at the prophecy that Sister White, through inspiration, tells us will lead to our revival; which is our greatest and most urgent need Verse 40 says: “And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.” So the time of the end, in The Great Controversy page 356, Sister White tells us it’s 1798 so it says: “at the time of the end in 1798, shall the king of the south push at him” If you go to Uriah Smith’s book Thoughts on Daniel and Revelation, which Sister White tells us is “God’s helping hand”… Smith will tell you that in Daniel 11, which is the only place that you’re going to directly see the war illustrated… a struggle between the king of the south and king of the north… that in Daniel 11 the king of the south is a power that controls Egypt and king of the north… is the power that controls Babylon Although Uriah Smith will call Babylon ‘Syria,’ as he addresses it In order to determine who the king of the south and the king of the north here are in verse 40, you need to add another rule to Daniel 11 The rule that Uriah Smith sets forth is that the king of the south is the power that controls Egypt and the king of the north is the power that controls Babylon But there’s another rule in Bible prophecy: that prophecy before the time period of the Cross is applied literally, and after the time period of the Cross it is to be applied symbolically So Egypt or Babylon before the time period of the Cross would be literal Egypt and literal Babylon But the first few words of Daniel 11:40 says “at the time of the end,” which Sister White tells us is 1798 So in 1798 the king of the south is going to push against the king of the north so you’re not looking for the literal king of the south or the literal king of the north; you’re looking for the spiritual king of the south and north because it’s after the Cross It’s 1798 Sister White tells us repeatedly in a variety of ways

that the books of Daniel and Revelation are the same book In Revelation 11, Egypt is identified as one of the elements of of France—atheistic France Egypt and Sodom are the symbols of France in Revelation 11 You don’t have to deduce that from the Bible alone Sister White plainly tells us in The Great Controversy that the beast that comes out of the bottomless pit in Revelation 11 is atheistic France So, Egypt is atheistic France in the time period of 1798 in verse 40. This verse says at the time of the end in 1798 shall the king of the south, Egypt, push at him Egypt in that time period was atheistic France And, as the books of Daniel and Revelation tell the same story, Babylon is also identified in Revelation 17: “mystery Babylon the great, the mother of harlots” What verse 40 is telling us is that at the time of the end in 1798, atheistic France is going to push against the papacy because the papacy is modern Babylon in Revelation 17 This word ‘push’ means ‘to war against’ In 1798, France is going to begin a war against Catholicism; this is an easy subject to see As Seventh-day Adventists we understand that in 1798, atheistic France delivered the deadly wound to the papacy So, verse 40 many Adventists don’t realize that verse 40 is the verse in the Bible that addresses the deadly wound of 1798—when and where it happened Revelation 13 speaks about the papacy receiving the deadly wound, but the verse in the Bible that tells us where and when it happened is Daniel 11 verse 40 And we put a ‘part A’ there because there’s a semi colon there between that first thought It says “and the king of the north shall come against him” This is future tense, but it is still after the Cross So, the king of the north must still be spiritual Babylon, which is the Papacy “And the king of the north,” the Papacy, “shall come against him.” which in the context of the verse must still be atheism at this level From 1798 until the end of the world when part B is going to be fulfilled, the king of atheism migrated geographically from the atheism of the French Revolution that spread across Europe to ultimately the power that rules over atheism in the history of the end of the world, which was the Soviet Union… Russia… that came into prophetic existence in 1917 In 1917 the Bolshevik Revolution took place in October, which was the same month and the same year that the miracle of Fatima took place So, 1917 is the most significant date for modern Rome, the papacy, the miracle of Fatima It is also the most important date for the king of the south at the end of the world, which is Russia, with the Bolshevik Revolution In verse 40, it says “and the king of the north, the papacy, shall come against the Soviet Union like a whirlwind.” And when it does… when the papacy comes against the Soviet Union, it will bring chariots, horsemen, and many ships Chariots and horsemen in the Scriptures represent military might; ships represent economic might History tells us that in 1989 the Soviet Union was brought down through an alliance between the United States and the Vatican —a secret alliance that was carried out by Ronald Reagan and the pope The United States supplied military and economic might to that relationship, as represented by the chariots, horsemen, and many ships It says: “and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over” And the papacy, as the Soviet Union began to collapse during that period of time, very quickly re-established itself as the dominating force over those former Soviet Union countries With every ray of light, Satan, the arch-deceiver, seeks to pervert the truth —the prophecy of Daniel 11 being no exception An early Adventist pioneer, Uriah Smith, purported that the key player in this prophetic battle, the King of the North, was Turkey Such a claim, continues to prevent Adventists from effectively ascertaining the true role of the papacy in Bible prophecy as the King of the North If you go to his book it says: “and ‘the’ king shall do according to his will.” In order to understand who ‘the’ king is, you need to go to the previous verses In the previous verses, Uriah Smith comments that verses 31 through 35 is the papacy

But, when you get to verse 36 it says “and ‘the’ king” Uriah Smith comments: “if we could say ‘a’ king, then we would see a new power introduced into the verse.” In so doing, Uriah Smith changes one word… the word ‘the’ to ‘a’… because he knows that if it says ‘the king’, then it must be the same king as in the previous verse But the Hebrew doesn’t leave any room to change this word to ‘a’ king So, Uriah Smith began teaching this falsehood during the time period when James White was still alive If you research their argument, which was about 10 years and was carried out between the publications of the Signs of the Times and The Review and Herald, you’ll see that James White’s number one most often used argument against Uriah Smith was this: If the last power in Daniel 2 is Rome, and the last power in Daniel 7 is Rome, and the last power in Daniel 8 is Rome, then the last power to come to his end with none to help in Daniel 11 must be Rome In verse 36 when Uriah Smith changes ‘the’ king from the papacy, he creates a totally different prophetic model He is going to teach differently about who the king of the south is and who the king of the north is in the history that he is going to identify as the Time of the End A problem he gets into is he is going to say that the king of the south is atheistic France, and the king of the North is Turkey, instead of Rome That is what Uriah Smith taught So, according to his position, verse 40 shows atheistic France, the king of the south, will push at Turkey But his history is that Turkey pushed first He has the history reversed there But that’s only because back here in verse 36 he changes ‘the’ king to ‘a’ king Over and over again you’re going to see an attempt by Satan to obscure the role of Rome in end-time Bible prophecy, as seen here in Daniel 11 with the work of Uriah Smith in introducing Turkey into the narrative when it doesn’t belong there “The scenes connected with the working of the man of sin are the last features plainly revealed in this earth’s history.” Selected Messages, book 2, 102.1 The papacy’s, or the man of sin’s, last work is clearly foretold in the Scriptures; to miss or obscure this information puts the soul in the utmost peril The Sunday Law crisis, the crowning act in the controversy between Christ and Satan is almost upon us The message of Daniel 11:40-45 is the message by which our eternal destiny will be decided Daniel 11:40 begins at the Time of the End in 1798 Part B in verse 40 is the Time of the End in 1989, and it goes all the way to Daniel 12:1, which is the close of human probation So, verses 41 through 45 are telling us the history from the Time of the End until the close of human probation; this is the knowledge that is unsealed in 1989 This knowledge is the knowledge that will be rejected by those who are pronounced as wicked This knowledge is the knowledge that will be understood and taught by those who are pronounced wise Verse 41: “he shall also enter into the glorious land” At the conclusion of the history of verse 40, the papacy which is the ‘he’ in the issue is going to conquer the United States —the glorious land at the Sunday Law At that point in time, you as a Seventh-day Adventist in the United States either receive the seal of God or the mark of the beast Therefore, what you do with your character development before verse 41 while living during the time period of verse 40… which is where we’re living right now… is going to determine your salvation —whether you’re lost or saved This increase of knowledge is to prepare us to stand during a time when there will be no more human intercession, which follows Daniel 12:1 There has never been a more serious life or death message than the message that is unsealed in 1989 concerning the last six verses of Daniel 11 The message of Daniel 11:40-45 constitutes a part of what is understood as the Latter Rain —the message that is to ripen the harvest for the coming of the Son of God “’Ask ye of the Lord rain in the time of the latter rain; so the Lord shall make bright clouds,

and give them showers of rain.’ ‘He will cause to come down for you the rain, the former rain, and the latter rain.’ In the East the former rain falls at the sowing-time It is necessary in order that the seed may germinate Under the influence of the fertilizing showers, the tender shoot springs up The latter rain, falling near the close of the season, ripens the grain and prepares it for the sickle The Lord employs these operations of nature to represent the work of the Holy Spirit As the dew and the rain are given first to cause the seed to germinate, and then to ripen the harvest, so the Holy Spirit is given to carry forward, from one stage to another, the process of spiritual growth The ripening of the grain represents the completion of the work of God’s grace in the soul By the power of the Holy Spirit the moral image of God is to be perfected in the character We are to be wholly transformed into the likeness of Christ.” The Review and Herald, March 2, 1897 The Latter rain can only be given to those who have cleansed the soul temple of every defilement Sin must be put away in order to receive the heavenly dew It comes at the time when the mighty angel of Revelation 18 is to descend and lighten the whole earth with its glory In The Review and Herald, April 21st, 1891, it says: “the latter rain is to fall upon the people of God.” We’re saying the latter rain is a message “The latter rain is to fall upon the people of God A mighty angel is to come down from heaven, and the whole earth is to be lighted with His glory.” So, when the angel of Revelation 18 descends, the latter rain begins to fall on the people of God She says: “Are we ready to take part in the glorious work of the third angel?” That’s when the work of the third angel begins. It’s at 9/11 “Are our vessels ready to receive the heavenly dew? Have we defilement and sin in our heart? If so, let us cleanse the soul temple, and prepare for the showers of the latter rain.” The latter rain is a message At 9/11 the rain begins to sprinkle; we know that from other lines of prophecy At that point, two classes are going to begin to be developed based upon how they receive those messages So it’s a distraction and an attempt designed to misguide people that Satan has put into the mentality of Adventism to think that the latter rain is some kind of an emotional experience It’s a message Study to show yourself approved There is a quote where Sister White says we are required to be students of prophecy Our unwillingness to understand the prophetic message is our unwillingness to receive the latter rain The question remains: When, then, does the latter rain and the angel of Revelation 18 arrive? When are we to partake of the heavenly gift that is to prepare us to meet our Lord? “Now comes the word that I have declared that New York is to be swept away by a tidal wave This I have never said I have said, as I looked at the great buildings going up there, story after story: ‘What terrible scenes will take place when the Lord shall arise to shake terribly the earth! Then the words of Revelation 18:1-3 will be fulfilled.’ The whole of the eighteenth chapter of Revelation is a warning of what is coming on the earth But I have no light in particular in regard to what is coming on New York, only I know that one day the great buildings there will be thrown down by the turning and overturning of God’s power From the light given me, I know that destruction is in the world One word from the Lord, one touch of His mighty power, and these massive structures will fall Scenes will take place the fearfulness of which we cannot imagine.” Life Sketches, 411.5 The latter rain and the angel of Revelation 18 arrive when the great buildings of New York are thrown down on 9/11 It is here also that the third woe of Bible prophecy begins Based upon the Adventist Pioneer understanding of the trumpets, the three woes deal with the work of Islam

It is not a coincidence that on September 11th, 2001, the twin towers of New York City were brought down, and a global war on Islamic terrorism began According to Islamic belief the third great jihad began on 9/11 Thus, by the hand of Providence, agreeing with the third woe of Bible prophecy So, you see that when the angel of Revelation 18 comes down, the earth is lightened with its glory This must be the light for the end of the world This is a turning point and it’s a crisis in the history of the nation and the church It’s pretty easy to go into the secular authors of the time period of 9/11 There are several references by secular authors commenting on the significance of 9/11, saying: “This is a turning point in the history of the world; this is a turning point in the history of the United States” Incredibly, such verbiage is the same as that of Sister White It was also a marked turning point in the history of the Adventist church “There are periods which are turning points in the history of nations and of the church In the providence of God, when these different crises arrive, the light for that time is given If it is received, there is spiritual progress; if it is rejected, spiritual declension and shipwreck follow The Lord in His word has opened up the aggressive work of the gospel as it has been carried on in the past, and will be in the future, even to the closing conflict, when Satanic agencies will make their last wonderful movement From that word we understand that the forces are now at work that will usher in the last great conflict between good and evil —between Satan, the prince of darkness, and Christ, the Prince of life But the coming triumph for the men who love and fear God is as sure as that His throne is established in the heavens.” Bible Echo, August 26, 1895 September 11th, 2001 marks the crisis and turning point not only for the United States of America, but for the Adventist church as well It was in September of 2001, that the Adventist church required its employees to learn Spiritual Formation techniques in order to be employed within its ranks In September of 2001 the Seventh-day Adventist Church, as it continues to go deeper and deeper in darkness, implemented a ruling that if you are going to be an employee of the Seventh-day Adventist Church you must be trained in the spiritual formations of Loyola— the head of and founder of the Jesuit Order of the Catholic Church As I was going back through these notes, one thing that I found interesting is that those techniques were first introduced into Adventism… not on 9/11 9/11 is when the Adventist church had finally said “you need to be trained in these if you want a paycheck, whether you’re a pastor or just working at a school or some other place.” Rather, when do you suppose the Adventist church first began to introduce the spiritual exercises of Loyola Ignatius? —It was in 1989 So, you can see a connection between the time of the end and the rejection that went on in 1989 Then, it reaches its full-blown development on 9/11, 2001 Today, to be employed by the Adventist Church, you have to do hypnotism that comes through the avenue of the Jesuit Order of the Catholic Church The great event of September 11th, 2001, marking the Latter Rain, the angel of Revelation 18 descending, and the third woe is of infinite importance God requires His people to see these fulfillments of prophecy and live, and to cleanse the soul temple of every defilement and perfectly reflect His character The sign of His coming must not be missed When we were dealing with the latter rain early on, we came to understand a key word was ‘recognize’ In the passage that I referred to, I said page 501 or 503 of Testimonies to Ministers… it might be 511… it’s 5 something… where it says “the Holy Spirit will be falling on hearts all around them, but they will not recognize or receive it” That’s pretty much word for word But the word in there that we came to understand was significant was the word ‘recognize’ We have now gathered together four, maybe five passages in the Spirit of Prophecy in which Sister White is crystal clear that if you do not recognize the latter rain, you cannot receive it That is the classic quote that most Adventists know of It says “the latter rain will be falling on hearts all around them,

but they will not recognize or receive it” Both of the words ‘recognize’ and ‘receive’ are in there You have to see that the latter rain is falling When we first understood 9/11 to be a sign that the latter rain had begun to sprinkle, in addition to understanding that we needed to recognize it, we came across Luke 21 Luke 21 is a really powerful presentation in this regard because Jesus is asked a question about “what shall be the sign of thy coming” by the disciples as He leaves the temple Then, He gives them the history in Matthew, Mark, and Luke But we refer to Luke 21 because it has some expressions in it that are easy to identify After Jesus gives them the running historical narrative, in Luke 21 He gives them a parable about the trees budding out Sister White comments on that verse in Luke 21 In Great Controversy, she speaks about what Christ was saying to the disciples in Luke 21 Christ pointed His followers to the budding trees of spring So, I’m shrinking down a whole sermon into just a thought here In the opening of Luke 21, the disciples asked “what’s the sign of thy coming?” —I’m saying it’s 9/11 I’m also saying it is the latter rain As Jesus walks them down through the history and then gives a second witness with the parable, He points His disciples to the budding trees of spring This allows us to go into the Scriptures and understand what causes the trees to bud out And, what causes the trees to bud out is the latter rain So, when Jesus pointed the disciples to the budding trees of spring and the latter rain in response to the question “what shall be the sign of thy coming?”… the logic that we’re employing is that at 9/11 the latter rain began to sprinkle The mighty angel came down, the latter rain began to sprinkle, and the trees began to bud out Let me read the closing part of Luke 21 because it ties into what we’ve been saying regarding the four generations of Adventism and how we’re the last generation In verse 29 of Luke 21, it says: “And he spake to them a parable; Behold the fig tree, and all the trees;”… you can go into the Spirit of Prophecy to show that the fig trees is a symbol of God’s people whereas all the other trees are the Gentile world So, in verse 29 Jesus is pointing to both God’s people and the other people in the world “When they now shoot forth”… what causes these trees to shoot forth is the latter rain in the Scriptures “Ye see and know of your own selves that summer is now nigh at hand.” Summer in the Scriptures is defined as the harvest; the harvest is defined as the end of the world Therefore, when you see the latter rain, when you see the trees bud out… and the trees are only good at bud-out if they’re receiving the latter rain… you know that summer is nigh at hand Summer is the end of the world, thus you know that probation is about to close That is what Luke 21 is teaching The disciples who had asked back in verse 6, I think it is… verse 7…“And they asked him, saying, Master, but when shall these things be? and what sign will there be when these things shall come to pass?” Jesus tells them the sign is the latter rain Then, in verse 31 it says, “So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass”… “these things” being the budding trees of spring… “know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” The generation that sees the latter rain begin to sprinkle is the final generation, which is prophetically the fourth generation The latter rain began to fall when the mighty angel of Revelation 18 came down at 9/11 with a message That message was received by some, but not by others Thus, that message is producing a budding out or a development of a harvest from that point onward But you need to recognize it to receive it You need to recognize that 9/11 is marking the beginning of the latter rain, the beginning of the sealing of the 144,000, and the beginning of the judgment of the living You also need to recognize that this is the final generation of earth’s history This is all marked in Luke 21 What is amazing about this is that I understand that Adventists, for the last 160 to 170 years or however long Adventism has been in history, their evangelists and their pastors will always argue “oh we’re the last generation” Even from the time of Ellen White, she put in the context “we’re the final generation”

However, for the first time, Luke 21 gives us a ‘Thus saith the Lord’ that tells us 9/11 marks the final generation of earth’s history Before the coming of Christ in the clouds, the whole world will be plunged into a great crisis of indescribable violence and evil One that has been foretold from the foundations of the Adventist church The Sunday Law crisis A great deception is that God’s people think that preparation can be delayed until the Sunday Law crisis arrives Earlier we talked about how the last six verses of Daniel 11 are the message of the hour… that is the knowledge that was opened up when the book of Daniel was unsealed in 1989 The reason it’s the message of the hour is because we’re living in the history of verse 40 from 1989; we’re living in the history of verse 40 from 1798 until the Sunday Law in the United States, which is verse 41 We’re living in verse 40 But probation closes for Seventh-day Adventists at the Sunday Law in the United States It’s absolutely amazing to me that Seventh-day Adventists don’t understand this But the counter to the warning message throughout the Scriptures is a peace and safety message A peace and safety message always puts off character preparation until after the time period that probation closes So to not recognize that probation closes at the Sunday Law as a Seventh-day Adventist is to buy into a peace and safety message Sister White repeatedly calls the Sunday Law ‘the great crisis’ But when she deals with the parable of the ten virgins, she says in Great Controversy page 393 that the parable of the ten virgins in Matthew 25 illustrates the experience of the Adventist people So, Adventism at the end of the world is fulfilling the parable of the ten virgins In the parable of the ten virgins, there is a crisis at midnight when there’s a cry made, “Behold, the bridegroom cometh; go ye out to meet him.” So, at midnight the crisis hits Sister White, when speaking about this characteristic of the parable of the ten virgins, she says “character is never developed in a crisis, it’s only demonstrated in a crisis.” So, when we understand that the Sunday Law is defined as the crisis in inspiration; and that we’re fulfilling the parable of the ten virgins; and that the cry at midnight is our crisis; and at that point we either demonstrate whether we have oil or no oil… then, we begin to see that we need to have the oil, which is the oil that comes down to those golden pipes, that is the messages of God’s Spirit He is dishonored if we reject them We need to receive the latter rain message and bring our lives into agreement with those messages before the Sunday Law If we wait until the Sunday Law, then all we’re waiting for is the mark of the beast So, we need to settle into the truth before the crisis hits We get confused about our understanding of the latter rain, not simply because we’re Laodiceans and that we’re easily confused, even though we are But, the other reason we misunderstand the latter rain is because the end of ancient Israel illustrates the end of modern Israel At the end of ancient Israel, one of the primary deceptions of the Jews that prevented them from receiving Christ was the misconception about the kingdom that He was going to set up They believed Christ was going to set up a literal kingdom, when on the contrary He was going to set up a spiritual kingdom The work that He was going to do was what they misunderstood They had a wrong understanding of the work that Christ would do They expected a literal earthly kingdom; He set up a spiritual kingdom But that history typifies our history As a matter of fact, Sister White tells us that there is a prophetic misunderstanding that we have; sometimes she puts it in the context of being typified by that very history of the Jews —not understanding what Christ’s kingdom was to be The warning for us is that we don’t understand what the latter rain is She tells us that our misunderstanding about the work of the latter rain is that we think we can wait for the latter rain… wait for the Sunday Law and the latter rain for character development When in reality, the work that the Holy Spirit is supposed to do during the time of the latter rain is to finish character development before the Sunday Law So, the misconception of the Jews in the time of Christ about the work that Christ was going to do with the spiritual kingdom rather than a literal kingdom is typifying the work of the Holy Spirit in our history The work of the Holy Spirit is to finish the work of character development in each of our lives before the Sunday Law arrives

As we’re wading through this reality in our own experience, we get challenged by the fact that the Adventist church seems to have all the characteristics of God’s remnant church in the Scriptures —it keeps the commandments (sort of), has the Spirit of Prophecy (semi)… but all those things that we understood about the Adventist church that allowed us to become Seventh-day Adventists, those things seem to be present in the Seventh-day Adventist Church But the Seventh-day Adventist Church does not appear to believe that Christ is coming in the near future, nor that the Sunday Law is imminent in the near future So, as Laodicean members of the Seventh-day Adventist church, I’ve actually had people tell me, “if there’s a Sunday Law coming I’m going to wait until I get my Review and Herald magazine telling me that it’s coming I’m not going to study about it until the General Conference puts it in writing and then I’ll know it’s coming.” this kind of misconception about the Sunday Law that we do not need character development, finished, finalized, before the Sunday Law character development before the Sunday law is the mistake that we are make following in the footsteps of the Jews Part of the mistake is in thinking that you can wait until the Sunday Law, and that the Holy Spirit is going to magically change you That is part of the mistake But the other part of the mistake is that you’re living in a church family that doesn’t even believe that So, you’re tempted to think that “well, because no one else believes it is going to happen, I don’t have to believe it’s going to happen either” But the reality of it is that it’s never been corporate Salvation has never been a corporate circumstance It is an individual circumstance You and I… we have to make these decisions The Bible and Spirit of Prophecy are clear We have to make these decisions for ourselves in spite of what the church is doing around us It’s even more specific than that in the Bible and the Spirit of Prophecy We’re going to reach a point in time where our wives or our husbands or our children are going to turn against us over this issue So, if the Bible has spent time teaching us that when we get to this final time period when we’re choosing fully against or fully for God… which is prior to the door closing… if the Bible is teaching us that it is going to divide our families or have the potential to divide our families… that should tell us that it’s also going to divide any corporate structure It should teach us that this is individual The Lord is in control He’s going to raise up a body of believers But those believers will all have their own individual experience They will need to have fully settled into the truth before the crisis hits because it is a strong, firm teaching in Inspiration that character is never developed in a crisis; it’s only demonstrated Adventism has gone through four generations; we’re living in the fourth generation now The first generation from ; 1798 to 1888 the second generation 1888 to 1919; the third 1919 to 1957; now we’re in the fourth generation of Adventism What brought Adventism into a covenant relationship with God in the Millerite history was the willingness on the part of those men and women to accept the message that was given to them But the message that was given to them was done so by the Lord first in choosing William Miller to be used to assemble a methodology that allowed them to come to understand the message of their time As you track the history of Adventism in the context of these four generations you realize that one of the primary attacks of Satan against Adventism is the methodology… to the point where, if we were to go to any Adventist seminary around the world today, we’re going to find that they’re teaching the hermeneutics of apostate Protestantism and Catholicism But they’re specifically not teaching the methodology of William Miller any longer If nothing else, this prevents them from understanding how the Millerites came to understand their message for their time period —a message that Sister White says was led by the Lord But, as we come here to the end of the world and the fourth generation of Adventism, you can document how the methodology was purposely buried

If you use William Miller’s dream as a point of reference… how counterfeit coins and rubbish and shavings were brought in to cover up the truth and to cover up the methodology… you realize that in this generation when you get to 9/11, you have to return to the old paths Part of returning to the old paths is to return to the methodology that has been undermined, covered up, and destroyed through the history of Adventism If you do that, you get into an understanding of God’s Word that is further up that pathway than where the Adventist church is You’re going to seem kind of narrow, strait-laced, and peculiar for the positions that you hold But that’s what the vision says All the way up that path things get narrower and more serious; that’s where we’re at in this time period It’s through the introduction of apostate Protestantism and Catholicism’s false methodology, false hermeneutics, that the ability of a typical Adventist to see the message of the latter rain arrived at 9/11 is prevented But the Lord is in the business of changing hearts if we’re willing to recognize what’s going on in planet earth right now You don’t need God’s word as a starting point… all you would need to do is look around and see that the world is stirred with the spirit of war You can see political corruption in high places; you can see the courts are corrupt; you can see everything that you need to see to show you that the return of Jesus is imminent At that point, you need to ask, “well, is it true that God doesn’t do anything except He first forewarns through His prophets?” Because that’s what the Bible teaches It’s easy to see you’re at the end of the world if you’re willing to see So, if you’re at the end of the world… and God doesn’t ever bring any kind of crisis about like this unless He first forewarns His people through His prophetic word… then you do have the right, by faith, to ask the Lord “where is that message that you said would precede the great crisis of the Second Coming?” It must be there because God never changes That message is in returning to the old paths, into the old methodology; to not do so is to remain in darkness Before God’s people are able to give the final warning, must not their hearts be cleansed? Must not they have a correct understanding of the work, character, and will of their Heavenly Leader? God’s people have lost the key that, in times past, opened the treasure house of the Lord The key of correct understanding and right methodology has been buried beneath human tradition For over 150 years, God’s people have slowly eroded the foundation that the Lord, through His pioneers of the faith, so carefully built Our only hope, our most urgent duty, is to return to the foundations of our faith; to restore a correct understanding of the Word of God “We are standing on the threshold of great and solemn events Prophecies are fulfilling The last great conflict will be short, but terrible Old controversies will be revived New controversies will arise We have a great work to do Our ministerial work must not cease The last warnings must be given to the world There is a special power in the presentation of the truth at the present time How long will it last? —Only a little while If ever there was a crisis, it is now The inquiry of every one should be, What am I? To whom do I owe allegiance? Is my heart renewed? Is my soul reformed? Are my sins forgiven? Will they be all blotted out when the time of refreshing shall come? God help us, is my most earnest prayer.” Letter, 132, 1898 Are you ready?


Nostra Aetate: Unanswered Questions Then and Now

(bell chimes) – Welcome, everybody It’s good to see you this morning We’re going to begin this first session of the second day on Nostra Aetate Our speaker is John Borelli, who is really the spark plug behind this event, and John is the special assistant for interreligious initiatives to President John DeGioia, the president of Georgetown, and he’s also the coordinator for dialogue for the Jesuit Conference in the United States and Canada John and I worked together 25 years ago at the Bishops Conference He’s the best colleague I’ve ever had I’ve heard bits and pieces of this talk as he’s made discoveries over the last several years, and I’ve been waiting to hear it all put together So without further ado, I give you John Borelli (audience applauds) – Thank you very much, Drew We have copies of Nostra Aetate, which Andy and Sam have If you don’t have a copy, didn’t pick up one, put your hand up and he’ll make sure, right, that you have a copy Well, Drew, I’ll spare you the full story I could talk six hours on Nostra Aetate without repeating myself, but I won’t It was one of the surprises, even one of the miracles of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council It was unanticipated from the start Pope John XXIII announced the Council to the surprise of all, save a couple of his closest friends and his Secretary of State, Cardinal Domenico Tardini It was met by stunned silence at a private gathering of cardinals in Rome in the chapter room of Saint Paul Outside the Walls on January 25th, 1959 The next day, the Vatican newspaper, L’Osservatore Romano, carried the announcement with these vague purposes, “Not only for the spiritual good and joy “of the Christian people, “but also to invite the separated communities “to seek again that unity “for which so many souls are longing “in these days throughout the world.” Eventually, Pope John would sort out these purposes, a means of spiritual renewal, reconciliation of the Church to the modern world, and service to the unity of Christians The last purpose in both listings, the unity of Christians, explains the significance of the feast of January 25th, the conversion of Saint Paul, the close of the Church Unity Octave, and significant for ecumenical relations The elderly biblical scholar, formal rector of the Biblicum, and confessor for Pope John’s predecessor, Pius XII, Father Augustin Bea set to work to put structure to the service of the unity of Christians Eventually, Pope John made good on his ecumenical purpose by creating a Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity and making Bea, a cardinal by then, its president The announcement came on Pentecost, 1960 And at that Pentecost announcement in Saint Peter’s was a young American priest, a member of the Congregation of Saint Paul, or Paulist Fathers, Thomas F. Stransky, who was pleasantly surprised to hear the announcement of a Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity and had no idea that in a couple of months, before he would turn 30, he would be invited on board the tiny but completely new staff He is now 85 Working with him closely and learning to see the unfolding of Vatican II and the controversial Nostra Aetate through his eyes has been my work these past nine years Father Stransky frames the problematic of Nostra Aetate and its questions this way “We have to face two temptations, “to read back into the document “a detailed program for the future “and to study the document as an end product, “a sterile set of 41 sentences “stripped of their history and context.” This short text had a complicated history And within it, nearly every word had role to play in that history In the fitting together of its sentences,

three strands, one major thread and two auxiliary ones, are wound, making a tightly wrapped story of a church groping for where to begin and how much to say safely On the 15th of October, 1965, at a news conference after the first round of final voting on Nostra Aetate, Father Stransky observed, “What is said in the declaration may seem naive “in centuries to come, but at the present,” he said, “it would be difficult for the Council “to come up with any more than it has.” What put the document on the Jews, later expanded to interreligious relations, on the agenda was a 30 minute audience of the Holocaust survivor, French Jewish historian Jules Isaac, with Pope John XXIII, just eight days after that 1960 Pentecost announcement Isaac reports in his own account that Pope John thought of the idea of a commission looking into what Isaac termed, “The teaching of contempt for the Jews.” As soon as Isaac walked into the room, we also have evidence from Pope John’s private secretary, now 100 years old, Cardinal Capovilla, that indeed, that was the first moment the pope thought about putting the question on the Jews on the agenda And once that happened, he never gave up on the idea Pope John directed Isaac to Cardinal Bea They met two days later That others were also at work to develop a positive statement towards Muslims would probably not have succeeded without the main thread of a statement on the Jews That the bishops of Asia and Africa decided after the experience of the first fall 1962 session of the Council that they wanted some official way to relate to the majority of religions surrounding their communities would never have succeeded without the main thread and a surprise factor The election of Pope Paul VI allowed all these threads to be handed to Bea’s Secretariat, because Paul VI already had a positive attitude towards Muslims thanks to Louis Massignon, the premier Catholic scholar of Islam of the first half of the 20th century, and because he believed in dialogue since he was a Francophile and read the French Catholic intellectual tradition Paul VI was the right person at the right time and expressed his willingness almost immediately to the bishops of Asia and Africa to act on their suggestion for another secretariat, one relating to all religions Pope Paul was truly devoted to the collective ideas of the text, but in trying to help it made mistakes Like a hot potato toss, Nostra Aetate survived because it declared only a minimum In that sense, Nostra Aetate, while reversing Church teaching, left nearly all questions unanswered For nearly every topic it addressed or addresses, there is a long list of unanswered questions Nostra Aetate Three on Muslims represented a real shift, though the framers would cite papal magisterium, a rather extraordinary letter of Gregory VII of the 11th century, offering remarkable resonances between Christian and Muslim faith, nevermind that his successor, Urban II, when calling the First Crusade referred to Saracens, Muslims, as execrable Unlike any course on post-biblical Judaism, one could find positive courses on Islam taught at pontifical institutions in Rome as early as 1924 Even Nostra Aetate Two is remarkable for treating other religions as religions and not aspects of paganism Curiously, while Nostra Aetate would eventually address contemporary relations with Muslims and the followers of other religions, it said next to nothing about rabbinic Judaism,

a question not asked in the text So three general areas need to be addressed What were the questions that Nostra Aetate asked and answered? What were the questions that those at the time raised but it did not answer? And what were the questions that were implicit in its teachings and clearly in its future implementation and have only been asked afterwards? Now, questions asked and answered At the first plenary of the Secretariat in November, 1960, the 10th and last item on the agenda, sub secreto Stransky likes to say there’s two secrets in Rome, one that’s not very good and you forget The other one is really good and you tell So the 10th item was sub secreto, Quaestiones de Iudaeis, which meant everybody in Rome soon seemed to know about it Questions on the Jews After explaining why it was on the agenda, Cardinal Bea asked for volunteers No one answered He then called for a coffee break, and during that time, Augustinian Gregory Baum went up to the cardinal in private and said that he was researching this topic and could prepare an initial report of a general nature Actually, Gregory was preparing a book in reply to the work of Jules Isaac on the teaching of contempt, which would be published in 1961 We know that Gregory did not take very long We had Gregory Baum here in 2010 He is also still alive We were still celebrating the 50th anniversary of this meeting, November, 1960 Gregory spoke And at dinner, Stransky said, “I met Gregory 50 years ago this week.” It’s just an extraordinary experience We know that Gregory did not take long to contact Monsignor John Oesterreicher at Seton Hall University We have found their correspondence in Oesterreicher’s archives And Gregory admitted it, too Oesterreicher, whom Stransky has described as the one who worked the hardest on the text, certainly on Number Four, would eventually join Baum as a consultor to the Secretariat, but not until the third plenary of April, 1961 Baum was one of 12 signatories of a report that Monsignor Oesterreicher prepared to be sent to the Preparatory Commission for the Council in 1960 Oesterreicher’s report suggested three points One, that the Council will inquire into the nature of the Church so that the Church sees herself prefigured in the salvation history of the Jews and from the call of Abraham through the Exodus to Judaism into which Jesus was born Two, that the Church will follow the example of the patriarchate of Jerusalem and establish voting masses or a universal feast of the just of the Old Testament That the Council, three, will correct even the lessons of the Divine Office giving any impression of the hatred of the people, quoting Romans 9:5, the human stock from which Christ came Now, Nostra Aetate Four includes points one and three, giving a solid yes to both Regarding a feast of the just of the Old Testament, the Secretariat forwarded that to the Liturgy Commission And a kind way to put it for the non answer from both the Secretariat and Commission is, “Not at this time.” I’m reminded of a comment by John Pawlikowski at the conference we convened at Georgetown last May, this is number three, Gerard, okay, that’s a reference to your conference, Vatican II, Remembering the Future, that in the past 50 years, an insufficient number of readings from the Jewish scriptures in his view have made it into the Lectionary Well, after consulting Oesterreicher, Baum sent an English copy of his first report of his own to Cardinal Bea in January of ’61 Father Stransky recalls an informal presentation by Baum, a sort of briefing at the second plenary, after hours, on three points to keep in mind as the project goes forward His first point combines the prefiguring of the Church and Israel with its implication, quote, “Showing how the new covenant “ratifies, renews, and transcends the old covenant, “but does not invalidate the Old Testament.” The second and third points were implicit to previous discussions involving Oesterreicher, Baum, Jules Isaac, and others The second and third points are, one, or two, it should be said

that Jesus Christ, the Savior of all humanity, was welcomed and received by a holy remnant of the Jewish people so that it is untrue and unscriptural to regard the Jews as an accursed race or a rejected people Three, it should be proclaimed that the Church cherishes the never waning hope for Israel’s ultimate reconciliation, and that, until then, the Christians’ attitude towards the Jewish neighbor must be one of love, respect, and final expectation Anti-Semitism must be condemned Nostra Aetate gives a yes to these points In fact, you might say Nostra Aetate Four makes three major points One, the Israel of old is intimately linked to the Church and that the old covenant with Israel has not been revoked by the new covenant embodied in the Church Two, that Jesus, His mother, the apostles, and the Apostolic Church were all Jewish, and thus not all of Judaism rejected Jesus And three, that the Jewish people then and today are not an accursed race and guilty of the death of Jesus Father Stransky remarked on these three points, and said indeed this is what Nostra Aetate Four accomplishes, these three points, at a dinner we had here at Georgetown in 2010 Another source needs to be acknowledged, the emergency meeting of Christians and Jews that met in Seelisberg, Switzerland in 1947 to address the serious task at hand for the churches in the aftermath of the Shoah One of its working groups summarized the task of the churches in 10 points, which came to be known as the 10 Points of Seelisberg You might say that Nostra Aetate gives a resounding yes to nine and a half of these 10 points when made into questions Does the one God speak to Christians and Jews, to the New and Old Testaments? In 1947, the full implication of this was about to be contested in the realm of international relations and politics with the establishment of the state of Israel, for Jews believe that God speaks to them in the Torah and promises the land to them as a sign of the covenant So you might say that this controversial point, though Christians wish to give a resounding yes to the spiritual fecundity of the Old Testament, has to be qualified Nostra Aetate sought to avoid every reference to the land Two, was Jesus a Jew, and does His love and forgiveness embrace His own people as well as the whole world? Yes Were the first martyrs and apostles Jews? Yes Is the fundamental commandment to love God and one’s neighbor already proclaimed in the Old Testament, binding on both Jews and Christians? Yes Can the Gospel of Christ be proclaimed and the Church extolled without misrepresenting biblical or post-biblical Judaism? Yes Is it incorrect to say that Jews were exclusively enemies of Jesus, and thus conclude that the enemies of Jesus include the whole people of Judaism? This is incorrect, yes Can the Passion of Jesus be proclaimed without charging the death of Jesus to the whole Jewish people or exclusively to Jews? Yes Does Jesus’s act of asking the Father to forgive His persecutors outweigh scriptural curses or any cry for His blood to be upon them and their children by the mob of Jewish witnesses? Yes Is it wrong to argue that because of the Passion and death of Jesus Jews are an accursed and sinful people destined to suffer without end? Yes, it is wrong Were not Jews the first members of the Church, members of the following of Jesus? Yes The first and second sections of Nostra Aetate also give positive answers to questions about other religions in light of what the text points out is already evident in scripture, that, “God’s providence, manifestation of goodness, “and saving design extends to all.” That’s quoting Nostra Aetate For example, are other religions oriented towards a perception of God? Yes Are there elements in the religions

that God appears to be using to save people? Yes Thus, the Church exhorts her sons and daughters to recognize, preserve, and foster the good things, spiritual and moral, as well as the sociocultural values found among the followers of other religions Yes Does this urging include conversations and collaboration with them, with prudence and love and in witness to the Christian faith and life? Yes Nostra Aetate observes that religions everywhere respond to human restlessness and the desire to know God through the development of teachings, ways, ethical rules, and solemn rites There is a noticeable shift between the paragraphs two and three in this text Nostra Aetate Two speaks of religions Numbers Three and Four refer specifically to Muslims and Jews Nostra Aetate Three, in addition, refers to the faith of Islam, thus to the question, is Islam just another world religion or is Judaism just another world religion? Nostra Aetate, by its structure, language, and content, says, “No.” To the question, “Do Muslims worship the one God?” Nostra Aetate says, “Yes.” In fact, Nostra Aetate affirms that Christians should respect Muslims specifically for three and a half of the five pillars, faith in God, prayers, alms giving, and fasting Not mentioned are the prophecy of Muhammad and the Hajj, or pilgrimage, to Mecca To the questions, “Do Muslims live upright lives?” the answer again is, “Yes.” Yet, Muslims look at Number Three and say that the two most important features of Islam, the Quran and the prophecy of Muhammad, are absent from the text These are among key questions that Dan Madigan identifies as those Nostra Aetate chose not to address He and others have engaged in long discussions of these topics, just sorting out the proper questions, because, and as often said, the term prophet ricochets around the scripture in a variety of meanings I am of the view that we cannot address the question of the Quran without further developing a development of the theology of revelation issuing from Vatican II Nostra Aetate Four makes clear that there is no room for legitimate anti-Jewish teaching, for what is essential to Christian faith is that, quote, “God holds the Jews most dear for the sake of their fathers “He does not repent to the gifts He makes “or revoke the call He issues “Such is the witness of the apostle,” citing Romans 11 and Lumen Gentium, promulgated a year earlier at the third session of Vatican II Questions asked but not answered in Nostra Aetate To every question that arose in the text and its writing, there was not always an answer While Nostra Aetate cited several scriptural passages and two traditional passages, Gregory VII and Lumen Gentium, which had just joined tradition, it gave a very limited answer to any question about resources in scripture and tradition to support a positive assessment of other religions In a sense, Nostra Aetate left much work to scripture scholars and to those who study the first centuries of Christianity It begs that question which it does not answer Why these passages and not others? They clearly chose not to use certain passages In 2002, the Pontifical Biblical Commission published the rather remarkable study, The Jewish People and Their Sacred Scriptures in the Christian Bible In the preface, then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger drew attention to a conclusion reached, quote, “Of great importance for the pursuit of dialogue, “namely that the Christian hermeneutic of the Old Testament, “admittedly very different from that of Judaism,” again quote, “corresponds nevertheless “to a potentiality of meaning “effectively present in the text.” End of quote I think that is positive At a conference this fall on Nostra Aetate hosted by the Lubar Institute at the University of Wisconsin Madison, John Pawlikowski again referred to Section 21 of the Pontifical Biblical Commission Text as a contribution where the Commission concludes

that any emphasis on discontinuity between the Testaments should not lead to one sided spiritualization Here’s that passage “What was accomplished in Christ “must yet be accomplished in us and in the world “The divinity fulfillment will be at the end “with the resurrection of the dead, “a new Heaven and a new Earth “Jewish Messianic expectation is not in vain “It can become, for us, Christian, “a powerful stimulus to keep alive “the eschatological dimension of our faith “Like them, we too live in expectation “The difference is that for one, for us, “the One who is to come “will have the traits of Jesus who has already come “and is already present and active among us.” Now, considerable progress has been made in biblical studies in the past 50 years, especially to the growth of the number of Jewish scholars of the New Testament as evidenced in the Jewish Annotated New Testament, which I now understand is being prepared for a second edition Problems remain, of course We have already alluded to the fact of the question, is the covenant a continuing source of spiritual fecundity for the Jewish people? Nostra Aetate could only give a partial yes, not wanting to raise the question of the land in light of the toxic Middle East issues that could have reduced the text to a footnote of Vatican II at any time Yet, while the Council did not address the state of Israel directly, the question surrounded the writing of the text Though the text could not address it, it was the cause of the first draft’s removal from the agenda, even before the Council got underway It was also the major question that constituted what I call the fourth and final major crisis that the text had to endure, a possible, a threatened boycott by Middle East bishops By the end of November, 1964, it was clear that the text was going to come out Cardinal Cicognani, the Vatican secretary of state, urged Cardinal Bea to prepare an article for L’Osservatore Romano pointing out what the text does not state The article appeared in the November 30th-December 1st issue of 1964 The next day, December 2nd, on his way to India, Pope Paul stopped in Lebanon to be received by that country’s president, Charles Helou, a Maronite, who himself had organized Eastern bishops in negative statements against the text And then, in 1965, three goodwill trips were undertaken in March, April, and July by representatives of the Secretariat to Eastern Catholic bishops in Lebanon, Syria, Jerusalem, Egypt, and Palestine Truly, Nostra Aetate raises the question of the state of Israel in its genesis and development without mentioning it Recognition of the state of Israel by the Holy See did not come until the end of 1993 An important Arab Christian leader associated with the Middle East Council of Churches, at a conference in this room in 1993, said that recognition came too soon In 1974, almost 10 years after Nostra Aetate, Pope Paul established the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with Jews and a similar body for relations with Muslims for the implementation of the conciliar text The Commission on Religious Relations with Jews issued a document in 1985, Notes on the Correct Way to Present Jews and Judaism in Preaching and Catechesis That text, 20 years after Nostra Aetate, finally mentioned the state of Israel The existence, quote, “Of the state of Israel and its political options,” should not be envisaged, “should be envisaged,” rather, “not in a perspective which is in itself religious “but in their reference to the common principles “of international law.” Other references were more subtle in the document The 1998 statement of the Pontifical Commission for Religious Relations with the Jews, we remember a reflection on the Shoah contains a reference to the state of Israel, which has honored Catholic bishops, priests, religious and laity, who did help to save Jewish lives

as much as was in their power, even to the point of placing their own lives in danger This text also reminds us that the first document of this commission in ’74, Guidelines and Suggestions for Implementing the Conciliar Declaration Nostra Aetate, accomplished something that Nostra Aetate nine years earlier could not do, namely to mention the term Israel in relation to the mystery and identity of the Church Quote, “The problem of Jewish-Christian relations “concerns the Church as such, since it is when, “quote, ‘pondering her own mystery,’ “she encounters the mystery of Israel.” In Nostra Aetate, the word Israel does not appear, even to identify the people who receive the covenant and brought forth Jesus Nostra Aetate certainly raised the question of Jewish culpability for the death of Jesus The text does not answer the question as to how much culpability for the death of Jesus did Jews have in those historical circumstances Paul VI’s sermon on Passion Sunday, 1965, April 4, in which he said that the Jewish people not only did not acknowledge Christ when He came but also abused and killed Him, ’caused enormous reaction The opposition took courage The Secretariat issued a statement “The Pope was addressing the Gospel passage for that day “Unjustified resentment is dangerous “History is history “And today and in the future, “let us acknowledge the roots of Christianity in Judaism.” End of quote The episode was prophetic for how resentments and breakdowns in trust were not going away once and for all with the promulgation of this text And Nostra Aetate Three observes that the faith of Islam is gladly linked to Abraham Furthermore, the text points out that Muslims revere Jesus as a prophet, honor Mary, His virgin mother At times, they even call on her with devotion and look forward to the Day of Judgment Nostra Aetate raises the question, indirectly, though, but almost begs the question, is the faith of Muslims based on biblical revelation? 15 years ago, a declaration from the Congregation of the Doctrine of the Faith, remember its name, Peter? Dominus Iesus seemed to want to answer this question definitively in August, 2000 After self referentially, thank you, Father Juan Carlos, for that important reference, self referentially citing the catechism of the Catholic Church, quote, “We must believe “in one God only, the Father, the Son, and Holy Spirit.” The text gives this paragraph “For this reason, “the distinction between the theological faith “and belief in the other religions must be firmly held “If faith is the acceptance and grace of revealed truth “which, quote, ‘makes it possible to penetrate the mystery “‘in a way that allows us to understand it coherently,’ “then belief in the other religions “is that sum of experience and thought “that constitutes the human treasury “of wisdom and religious aspiration “which man in his search for truth “has conceived and acted upon “in his relationship with God and the absolute.” Dominus Iesus is problematic for one reason, because it does not clarify if Jews are capable of theological faith, especially given that the paragraph concludes from a statement of trinitarian faith Dominus Iesus caused considerable turmoil in Jewish-Catholic relations for several years That’s why we had the conference here That one reference runs entirely counter to the developing consciousness of Jews and Christians regarding what has been called the parting of the ways, the gradual separation of Christianity out of Judaism Here is a passage, that passage I’m referring to Quote, “It was in the awareness “of the one universal gift of salvation “offered by the Father through Jesus Christ in the Spirit “that the first Christians encountered the Jewish people, “showing them the fulfillment of salvation “that went beyond the law, and in the same awareness, “they confronted the pagan world of their time, “which aspired to salvation through a plurality of saviors.” End of quote The language of Dominus Iesus is sloppy

Nostra Aetate seems to suggest the very opposite picture of things Avery Dulles suggested that this passage contradicts another conciliar text, Ad Gentes, the decree on missionary activities He pointed out especially a statement in Number Seven of that document, “Therefore, though God in ways unknown to Himself “can lead those inculpably ignorant of the Gospel “to find that faith without which “it is impossible to please Him,” and quotes Hebrews, 11:6 In another place, Dominus Iesus dismisses the prayers and rituals of other religions, presumably including those worthy of preservation and fostering by Nostra Aetate Quote, “One cannot attribute to these, however, “a divine origin or an ex opere operato salvific efficacy “which is proper to the Christian sacraments,” referring to a decree of the Council of Trent on the sacraments Pope Francis offered his own commentary in 2013 in Evangelii Gaudium He said, “While these lack the meaning and efficacy “of the sacraments instituted by Christ, “they can become channels which the Holy Spirit raises up “in order to liberate non-Christians “from atheistic immanentism “or from purely individual religious experiences “The same Spirit everywhere brings forth “various forms of practical wisdom “which help people to bear suffering “and to live in a greater peace and harmony “Christians, we can also benefit “from these treasures built up over many years, “which can help us better to live our own beliefs.” Hooray Pope Francis’s question of practical wisdom seems to be more carefully worded for the cooperation and sharing that Nostra Aetate had in mind His practical wisdom would apply to the whole area that has not been addressed by wise observers in 1965 Would they have predicted interfaith marriages? At the time of the composition of Nostra Aetate Three by four priests, one Dominican, George Anawati, two missionaries of Africa, Joseph Cuoq and Robert Caspar, and a diocesan priest from Lebanon, Jean Corbon, there was some uncertainty on how much to say about the place of Islam in the line of biblical revelation They felt obliged in 1964 to compose a memorandum, or modus in the language of Vatican II, reacting to misinformation about Muslim and Islam already in other conciliar drafts and discussions These four recognized that biblical revelation is quote, “Materially present in the Islamic tradition, “in the Quran and so forth, “but that the goal of this material “is not to make men and women sons and daughters of God “if that is what unites Jews and Christians.” Those experts of 1964 concluded that it is best to follow the plan of the newly released encyclical of Paul VI, Ecclesiam Suam, quote, “Where Muslims are not directly drawn together with Jews, “outside the other forms of monotheism, “but hold among these a preferential place.” They were cautious, The pattern persisted from the encyclical through the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church and the Decree on Ecumenism to Nostra Aetate itself These three texts, as the encyclical of Paul VI, are ecclesiological and not Christological in their approach to other religions However, that approach raises yet another question, a second order question not considered in the writing 50 years ago Who is the Church? This is an unanswered question of the Decree on Ecumenism that spills over into Nostra Aetate Nosta Aetate left no doubt that the followers of other religions can be saved This was not new when one considered God’s grace acting on individuals and their responses to it Francis A. Sullivan, who has written in depth on magisterial teaching on the followers of other religions and salvation considers the implications of Nostra Aetate that individuals are not saved in spite of their religions but because of them has been part of his work John Paul II pointed this out in his 1991 encyclical on mission, Redemptoris Missio,

paragraph 55, that God works through other religions John Paul II’s earlier reflections on his own experiences with the followers of other religions, principally at the World Days of Peace in Assisi, led to his development that this salvific action takes place through the Holy Spirit active in the heart of everyone In a recent article, Vatican II and the Post Conciliar Magisterium on Salvation of the Adherents of Other Religions, published in 2012, Sullivan suggests that because Muslim faith is based in part on biblical revelation, no matter how Muslims receive that revelation that they are in a different condition than the followers of those other religions with whom the present Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue relates Now, finally, questions not asked in Nostra Aetate but raised by Nostra Aetate, including certain ambiguities Nostra Aetate used the term religion in a positive way, in that the drafters borrowed the usage from contemporary anthropological and history of religion study Such was the testimony of Father Stransky Yes, Nostra Aetate offers no definition of religion, but used the term as though there exists a religious pluralism Fortunately, there was no intervention that spoiled this development as in the case of Dignitatis Humanae, the Declaration on Religious Liberty, an incident that angered John Courtney Murray Stransky is my source on that, too In the second paragraph of Dignitatis Humanae Number One, we find this sentence “We believe that this one true religion “subsists in the Catholic and Apostolic Church, “in which the Lord, Jesus Christ, “committed the duty of spreading it abroad among all men.” End of quote That would’ve spoiled everything in Nostra Aetate The framers avoided the discussion among scholars on, “What is religion?” a debate that continues today Nostra Aetate referred to what is true and holy in other religions, but did not define what is true and holy These were questions left open Yves Congar participated in the expansion of the text to include these passages, but cautioned that some small statement of Christian faith needed to balance the acknowledgement of truth and holiness in other religions They settled on this, quote, “Indeed, she proclaims and ever must proclaim Christ as, “quote, ‘the way, the truth, and the life,’ John 14:6, “in whom men and women “may find the fullness of religious life “and to whom God has reconciled all things to Himself.” End of quote, adding a further reference to Corinthians 5:18-19 When I asked Father Stransky why this passage was chosen, his response today is, “The passage is out of place,” a result of one of those compromises caused by the myriad of hands writing the text To some, this does not follow logically in the paragraph To others, this is a self referential acceptance of truth and holiness in other religions Nostra Aetate gave no answers to these unasked questions On deeper reflections, we come to the fundamental question on the relationship between mission and interreligious dialogue, one of the reasons why an attempt by Council leadership, what I call the third crisis, to break up the text into pieces and scatter them in other documents, namely, the portion on the Jews put in the Dogmatic Constitution on the Church, the portion condemning anti-Semitism and discrimination in the tightly battled draft on the Church in the modern world, and the references to other religions in the draft on the missions Well, one of the answers is, the last draft was in terrible shape as late as October, 1964 For two years, missionary bishops were fighting a pitched battle with the Congregation for the Propagation of the Faith No progress had been made Eventually, the 1965 Decree on Missionary Activity, Ad Gentes, left the question wide open So the Secretariat for non-Christians, nowadays the Pontifical Council for Interreligious Dialogue, issued two important reflections on mission and dialogue in 1984 and 1991 These were its best work, though the latter text, Dialogue and Proclamation, had to be written with

the Congregation for the Evangelization of the Peoples, propaganda’s post-conciliar incarnation, and later on with the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith When the Office of Interreligious Dialogue could draw upon the testimony of missionaries and those living dialogue worldwide, it created its best work I would say, though, that the relationship between mission and dialogue remains unresolved with no real consensus for a basic reasoning because both mission and dialogue are terms that are so multivalent Nowadays, Pope Francis has introduced through example and exhortation the theme of spiritual accompaniment and companionship, giving us a new opportunity to reflect on mission and dialogue In Evangelii Gaudium, he refers to how, quote, “The sacramental dimensions of sanctifying grace, “God’s working in them,” that is, the followers of other religions, “tends to produce signs and rites and sacred expressions “which in turn brings others to communitarian experience “of journeying towards God,” making reference to Proposition 55 of the Synod on the New Evangelization So stay tuned I’m sure there’s more to come on mission and dialogue from Pope Francis Some might suggest today that even Nostra Aetate One and Two seem naive Current religious studies would point out the patronizing, colonial attitude in the language Even the questions asked in Nostra Aetate One may not serve as unifying opening of a text were such attempted today “Is an essentialist definition of religion at work here?” some might ask What about the growing number of people who do not affiliate with religions today but have questions? And they’re rather concerned about these questions How do I live into dying? How does one get the energy to live? Their ultimate questions are about loneliness, sex, health, and security Nostra Aetate urged dialogue, but its framers knew that dialogue would become more evident in the practice This was true even for the lengthier and more substantial Decree on Ecumenism, which the same team of bishops and consultors produced In 1980, Pope John Paul II questioned the tiny Catholic community of Ankara, Turkey that, “Is it not about time that we explored “the spiritual bonds that connect us with Muslims?” Nostra Aetate explicitly raised the question of spiritual bonds with Jews, and I will say more about that by way of conclusion But the question was eventual for Muslims and all the rest Nostra Aetate encouraged the promotion of spiritual values but gave no direction for spiritual sharing and interreligious prayer The Days of Prayer in Assisi that John Paul II pioneered and clearly considered emblems of his papacy were probably the most visible implementation of the text Prayer together is something ordinary people find inclined to do, yet considerable ink, last night, Peter said oceans of ink, have been spilled in the past 50 years on false syncretisms and worries about relativizing the faith by too much dabbling in one another’s practices These are unanswered questions raised by the implementation of Nostra Aetate In the second paragraph of Number Three, we find this sentence, “This Sacred Synod,” and Francis Sullivan taught me, when a Vatican II text says that, listen up This is the work he writes about “This Sacred Synod pleads with all to forget the past,” and yet, Nostra Aetate naively made no provision for healing of memory This was a later theme of John Paul II, addressed succinctly in his World Day of Peace message 2002, “No peace without justice, no justice without forgiveness.” Before that in the preparation for the great jubilee year of 2000, this was a regular theme I have often considered the healing of memory to be a correction of the pleading in Number Three So my conclusion Perhaps the largest unanswered question in the writing of Nostra Aetate was that of the Shoah It was the reason why Jules Isaac arrived in Rome for the audience with Pope John When the Secretariat for Promoting Christian Unity met in Buhl near the Black Forest, not far from Cardinal Bea’s family home, in August, 1961,

the capture of Adolf Eichmann the previous May and the news of the intention of Ben-Gurion for a public trial had already caused a major soul searching undertaken by the German Church When the Secretariat held its most difficult meeting in May, 1965 with the threatened boycott of Middle East Christian bishops regarding the future of the text, due to this strong resistance, Stransky reports that the plea of Bishop Stangl of Heidelberg for a strong text encouraged the Secretariat to continue “Otherwise,” he said, “the bishops of the German Church “would feel greatly defeated “in their efforts of self examination.” Yet, while Bea’s Relaciones, or Introductions, would mention the fact of the Shoah, it was far too soon for the text to raise the question for any consequential discussion It might even have caused more resentment Remember that Rolf Hochhuth’s The Deputy, Der Stellvertreter, premiered in Berlin, suggesting the complicity of Pius XII in the Holocaust on the 20th of February, 1963, just as Oesterreicher, Baum, and Stransky and others were gathering to put a text on the Jews back on the Council’s agenda The statement of the Commission for Religious Relations with Jews, we remember, 35 years later in 1998, itself caused considerable concern, requiring a lengthy footnote in an attempt to articulate in an acceptable way how Pius XII addressed the historical events If anything, the writing of Nostra Aetate provided an opportunity for the Catholic Church to state, even if indirectly, that anti-Jewish attitudes and teachings promoted in the past indeed needed to be addressed and corrected apart from the condemnation of anti-Semitism, which already had existed in Catholic magisterium No longer were Catholics to define their faith in any anti-Jewish way Though the Shoah still remains and may always remain unaddressed to anyone’s satisfaction, the reception of this principle was probably the greatest answer of Nostra Aetate All other questions, answered and unanswered, pale by comparison Many such questions orbit around this fundamental principle that we will not define our faith an anti-Jewish way How are Jews of the new people of God, or was there a radical schism within the Church or within Israel? That is, was the first schism within Judaism? What is the nature of the common Messianic and eschatological hope between Jews and Christians? When the Church does not draw sustenance from the root of Judaism, is it less Church? Apart from the controversy of Christian mission and relations with Jews, what is the continuing mission of the synagogue to the Church? Can there be a one way spiritual bondedness with Jews, with Muslims, with any others? With this fundamental principle, unanswered questions regarding Jews and the history of Jewish relations expand How grave is the sin of anti-Semitism or any form of anti discrimination? How can religions be misused? In 2006, Stransky wrote a reflection on Nostra Aetate’s genesis and development and how it preserved this fundamental principle He said, “I remain convinced also that the enlargement “through the inclusion of other religions “protected the Jewish theme intact, “and its opponents, as well as its supporters, knew it “The gem could not be removed from the larger setting “and its fragments scattered about in other texts “But by only these 17 Latin sentences,” in Number Four, “though a few have been wounded by immediate compromises, “Vatican II began to shift with integrity “1900 years of relationships between Catholics and Jews “and to open locks that had been jammed for centuries

“The conciliar act continues “an irrevocable cheshbon hanefesh, “a reconsideration of soul.” Thank you (audience applauds) – Thank you, John, for a very rich paper, which I think we’re all gonna wanna study when you release it Those questions are really quite a remarkable way to organize the history of the document and its unanswered questions. (coughs) Our first respondent (coughs) is Professor Peter Phan, professor of theology and holder of the Ellacuria Chair of Catholic Social Thought It’s one of my real pleasures to have him here, because I was on the search committee that brought him here many years ago Peter – First of all, I’d like to thank John Borelli for this marvelous presentation The way he organized the substance of Nostra Aetate in the three series of questions, questions asked and answered, questions asked but not answered, and questions not asked and therefore not answered So I liked it very much I had the opportunity to read the longer version of his presentation So John is my junior by six months, but he looks much wiser, and of course, much older (audience laughs) I have been given 10 minutes to respond, and so although God has, in His mercy, has spared me from being a Jesuit, (audience laughs) I’d like to organize my presentation, my response, in three points My first point is to show the distance or even the abyss separating what goes before Vatican II and what goes after Vatican II You remember years ago there was this debate about the hermeneutics of continuity and the hermeneutics of disruption or discontinuity And I want to go into that, but just to show you what is continuity or discontinuity, allow me to read a very short statement from Pope Eugene IV, proclaimed at the Council of Florence in 1442, and Nostra Aetate in 1965 In a period of 523 years, this is what happened Eugene IV declared at the Council of Florence, I’ll read to you, “The Holy Roman Church “firmly believes, professes, and teaches “that the legal statutes of the Old Testament, “or Mosaic law, “divided into ceremonies, holy sacrifices, and sacraments, “were instituted to signify something to come, “and therefore, although in that age “they were fitting for divine worship, “they have ceased with the advent of our Lord, Jesus Christ, “whom they signified.” This is what Jules Isaac referred to as the teaching of contempt And again, I continue “But the Church asserts that “after the propagation of the Gospel, “they cannot be observed “without the loss of eternal salvation “Therefore, she denounces as foreign to the faith of Christ “all those who after that time “observed circumcision, the Sabbath, and other laws, “and she asserts that “they can in no way be sharers of eternal salvation “unless they sometime turn away from these errors.” Was it an infallible teaching? And then, of course, you have Nostra Aetate So it is within this context that I think we should appreciate what Vatican II was doing, whether it was a paradigm shift, as Father Scannone said last night wonderfully, or whether it was simply a development, historical development But there’s no avoiding the fact that Vatican II represents a turnaround

of the relations of Christianity towards Judaism, and of course, later on, as the text goes on in Nostra Aetate, with other religions and with Muslim Having that context, then I’d like to go to my second point John has mentioned questions not asked, but I’d like to dwell in one point The title itself of the document, in spite of all the magnificent progress of Nostra Aetate, Nostra Aetate in the title itself regards other religions as non-Christians Now, for those of us who were for a long time in Christian traditions, this term doesn’t sound very offensive But it is If you were a Hindu, and we Christians describe them not as Hindu but as non-Christians and that’s the way how we regarded them and other religions or believers, what I see in Nostra Aetate is still a residue of the theology of fulfillment that (mumbles) and even Karl Rahner, the great Karl Rahner, was proposing And therefore, even if the theology of fulfillment, particularly in the form of Rahnerian tradition of anonymous Christianity, represents a great step forward, but it does not allow us Christians to see the other as other and not simply as a reflection of who we are and a much lesser reflection of who we are We have not yet learned to see the other as other, the otherity, the otherity, and respect that, even if theoretically we may call them, saying that, “Well, they recognize that they do have values, “they have a sense of truth and so forth,” but we have not recognized this reality What has changed in last 50 years that allow us now to see the other believers as others and not simply as ways towards us, as stepping stones towards Christ and the Church? I think there are two Briefly, first, and John has mentioned, the experience of people who worked in the missions, the people who were not in the Roman Curia, the people who are not caught up in books and libraries, but the people who work among and whose parents, whose relative, whose siblings are not Christians are who experience the reality of God’s grace It is this concrete, grassroot experience that changed the perspective of how we understand the other religions as ways to God The second element, also John has mentioned, is to recognition of the role of the Holy Spirit, the new mentality Nostra Aetate is heavily ecclesiocentric, but it’s also heavily Christocentric What is lacking in there is an explicit and well developed theology of the spirit It is this new mentality that we see in really John Paul II a little bit, and as we develop this, we recognize that the others are also, the Holy Spirit does not simply depend on Christ for her or his work In the kind of linear descendantry down theology, you see that Spirit cannot do anything except through the Son But we have to reverse that order and see that the Spirit is present outside of, differently from, Jesus It is this insight into the activity of the Spirit as outside of, together with but not dependent to that allows us to recognize other religions as valid ways to God The third point John mentioned the one question that was not asked and was not answered is interreligious prayer at Vatican II

As we all know that there are different ways of conducting interreligious dialogue, we often say there are four ways to do it, sharing of life, which is extremely important, common work for justice and peace, theological discussions, but above all is through sharing of spiritual experiences I think it is this last mode of interreligious dialogue which is the most challenging and yet the most transformative experiences that will give new directions to interreligious dialogue It will give a new meaning to Nostra Aetate It opens up ways of moving beyond what Nostra Aetate has offered I don’t know whether among us there is Thomas Ryan Last night he was here Are you here, Thomas? No, he (mumbles)? Okay He is? Okay He has written a gem, a little book It’s called Interreligious Prayer Now, I know that Thanksgiving is coming, Christmas is coming, our birthday are coming, and you want something for your grandparents, parents, relative, and all the Chinese in China Please, buy a copy (audience laughs) This is a magnificent work, because not only because it’s not only theoretical, but he gave us examples of how we can pray together The (mumbles) of religious secretism in interreligious prayer has to be laid to rest It is only when we stand side by side, shoulder by shoulder, with others, and kneeling together with other people, that we can recognize that interreligious dialogue is not just simply intellectual enterprise It is something that will transform not only those who are others, but ourselves I’d like to end with a magnificent thing that Pope Francis has done in his encyclical Laudato Si’ To my knowledge, it is the first papal encyclical that ends with two prayers He says, after this long, long, long text on the ecology, he said, “Allow me to offer two prayers “The first prayer can be said by anybody, “by anyone who believe in God, something transcendent “We can pray together.” So that short prayer And then the second prayer he says the prayer for those who are Christians who can pray with Jesus in the name of Jesus Those of you who are looking for a theme for your master’s degree or even doctor dissertation, (audience laughs) I suggest to you, lie the two prayers side by side and do a theological comparison What differences are there? You’ll get an A plus from me Thank you very much (audience laughs) (audience applauds) – I wanna commend Peter My own experience of being with Muslims in prayer has been a very important experience in my life, and so I welcomed his comments on interreligious prayer in particular Our second respondent is Heather Miller Rubens, who is the director of the Center on Interreligious Activities in Baltimore She’s, to me, a new friend We met only early in the summer at a conference on Nostra Aetate And I was so glad to meet her Those who have been in ecumenical dialogue and interreligious dialogue for many years have been waiting for the next generation, and I think that she really, in her work in Baltimore, has been doing wonderful, wonderful work, and looking forward to her commentary now – Good morning I’m delighted to be a part of this conference at Georgetown University honoring Vatican II’s unfinished agenda, and in particular Nostra Aetate

It is both humbling and a bit intimidating to return to one’s undergraduate alma mater and be invited to speak And of course, it must be said that any brilliance you may hear in my response to Dr. Borelli is a direct result of my study as an undergraduate theology major here at Georgetown Anything you disagree with or find dubious is no doubt a result of the corrupting influences of graduate school and living, working, and dialoguing in the world at large Thank you, John, for the opportunity to return to the hilltop On other occasions, I’ve had the privilege of hearing Dr. Borelli speak about Nostra Aetate, and he’s described the document as such Nostra Aetate is a text that’s pre-dialogical in the sense that the document was promoting dialogue as the primary tool for developing its teaching It left its major work to dialogue It’s unfinished In this morning’s lecture, John used the helpful three part rubric to organize his presentation, questions asked and answered, questions asked but not answered, questions left unsaid Both the questions left unanswered and the questions left unasked offer possibilities in 1965 and continue to offer possibilities in 2015 The three part structure that you used today, as well as his other insight about the workings of implementing Nostra Aetate imply that there’s much work to be done in both formulating new questions as well as positing some answers in the wake of Nostra Aetate If this insight is correct that understanding and implementing Nostra Aetate is part of the unfinished agenda highlighted at this conference, and I think that it is, then the next important question involves who Who is tasked with the doing of this work of dialogue? Indeed, issues of identity and representation are core to the pursuit of dialogue and the ongoing development of the teaching of Nostra Aetate Who is around the table? Who has been developing the teachings over the past 50 years? And who will do this major work going forward? Since completing my doctorate at the University of Chicago, I’ve been working at the ICJS, the Institute for Islamic, Christian, and Jewish Studies, in Baltimore It’s an independent academic nonprofit that engages in a variety of educational opportunities for active clergy in the region, for seminarians and rabbinical students, for adults learners, and for teachers in the Mid-Atlantic to engage in interreligious dialogue Let me give you just some brief examples of some of our programs We’ve been offering an intensive J term course that brings both Protestant and Catholic seminarians from Washington, DC region together with Jewish rabbinical students from Philadelphia, New York, Boston, Cincinnati, and LA We’re also beginning a new program to provide professional development and educational opportunities for high school and middle school teachers of religion, including those teachers who may be encountering religious pluralism in the study of social studies and in the literature I love my work in large part because I get to move between several distinct spheres, the academic, the ecclesial, and the public I can attend conferences like these, donning my academic robes to dialogue with scholars of different intellectual and different religious commitments I also get to develop and facilitate dialogue programs for active clergy, as well as clergy in formation, and I enjoy teaching members of the laity in churches, synagogues, mosques, and in our own building up in Baltimore Moving beyond my own biography and experience with dialogue, I observe that since Nostra Aetate, there have been many different kinds of interreligious learning conducted in different spaces by different sorts of people, again, academic dialogues between theologians, ethicists, and historians There have been other dialogues between religious leaders, bishops and rabbis and imams gathering together for conversation and for learning And importantly, there have been popular dialogues happening between regular everyday people of different faith traditions, men and women coming together to study and learn about themselves and about each other In sum, there are many different people developing and teaching Nostra Aetate, both answering the questions that were asked in the 1965 text, as well as developing their own questions in 2015 In light of this reality, I invite us to take up the following broader questions How have these three levels of dialogue, popular, ecclesial, and academic, affected each other over the last 50 years? How have the bishops and rabbis influenced conversations between everyday committed believers of different faiths? And in turn, how have grassroots dialogues affected the conversations between religious leaders?

And where do scholars and academics like myself fit in? How do we go forward? As I move between these dialogical spaces, I am keenly aware that I am doing so as a Roman Catholic laywoman The facts of my gender and my position as a lay academic have both opened many doors for me and yet closed others in the world of dialogue due to the politics of representation As we have reminded in the past few weeks, determining who has the authority to speak on all matters Catholic in the public square is a contested space, even when it’s an in house conversation The question of who can speak for Catholics in interreligious spaces is necessarily related Who should stand as a representative of Roman Catholicism? Who has been and who will be involved in the development of the teachings of Nostra Aetate? But we cannot only be self referential in this regard These questions of representation and speaking authority translate into expectations, sometimes unreasonable or misguided, of our dialogue partners As we gaze across the table, who are our dialogue partners? Who do we want them to be? But more importantly, who’s actually there sitting across from us at the table? I will close with that being my final remark and sum up with one quick line Who will do the work of implementing Nostra Aetate going forward and under what authorities? How do the politics of identity and representation and speaking authority, how has it shaped the conversation in the past and how will it shape it going forward? Thank you (audience applauds) – Thank you, Heather We have time, plenty of time now, for questions and discussion It’s a little hard up here, but I think if I shade my eyes I can recognize people – [John] We have a roving mic Is that correct? – Is the roving mic back there? – [John] There are some roving mics – So if I miss someone, roving mic, you’re free to give it to someone I haven’t recognized Do we have a show of hands for questions or comments? (mumbles) there – [John] Back there, good – [Lynn] Hello My name is Lynn Ba-sing-er Sha-so, and I was teaching part time at this department a few years ago, the Department of Theology at Georgetown I’m also an alum of Georgetown I would like to address the last question you ask, how lay Catholic women, be it academia, in theology, can represent the Catholic position This was really my challenge as I was teaching, and my specialty is feminist theology, because I wanted to make sure that they heard the woman’s voice And I still haven’t come to grip with that, because after two years of teaching at Georgetown, I went to another setting, and I continued to live my life as a Catholic woman, invisible Also I did do a number of adult education programs in different settings So this is one question that I would like to ask How would the Church eventually move from a male theological dominated, in academia or in the Church, to a more lay participative way of doing dialogues? That’s the first level of dialogue as far as I’m concerned The second dialogue, because life took me– – Just one question, please – [Lynn] Yes – Thank you, thank you – There’s just a second question, too– – No, just one question, please – [Lynn] Okay, all right, okay – Do you wanna take that? – Sure In response, I do what I do because I think that there’s hope, and so you just have to keep showing up in a variety of settings and spaces And I think the ability to both write and to speak, you have to say yes to all invitations and continue to be present, and I think that their voices will carry – And another response is this We tend to look at these fishbowl public dialogues as where it’s happening, but actually very little happens there And there are various levels of dialogue in this dialogue of life and community dialogue

When the Middle East tensions cause a halt to public dialogues, usually it’s the dialogue among Muslim, Jewish, and Christian women that’s continuing and making progress and publishing books And so I really think in the second 50 years of implementation of this text, I think more work is gonna be done locally We won’t be looking at the fishbowl accomplishments because they can only do so much, I think And even bishops conferences have less and less funds to promote the kinds of dialogues that I was fortunate to have started some years ago I think it’s this dialogue that’ll happen in Baltimore City and other places that will accomplish far more And we have this return of collegiality within the Church that I think there’ll be a collegiality within the spheres of dialogue – I think there was a question in the back There’s a woman there in the back corner – [Woman In Audience] I had the same question – Same question, okay Back row – [Man In Audience] It’s good hearing Drew and John We worked a great deal together in the past on Middle East issues here in town But you made a scant reference to that issue of the land, and that couldn’t have been dealt with in 1965, and the face of so much of the Jewish-Christian stuff is the Middle East and what’s happening politically there I wonder if you might make some comments on what I know have been some developments among Jewish writing and this question of the land, and if it’s become more helpful now than it was so many years ago – Do you wanna make reference to, or? Well, I just wanna say this, that I think some of our Jewish friends who have been participating in dialogue and with whom considerable trust has been created are willing to begin to address the question how Jewish faith is expressed, including this promise of the land, but you have to address those who are already living on the land Just as we Christians had to face the question, “How can we express Christian faith “in ways that’s not anti-Jewish?” as a fundamental turnaround, I think Jews are beginning to see maybe this will be a way to begin looking at this But we’re in scholarship – Well, I would also bring up the fact that with Protestant Christian-Jewish dialogue, there’s been an increase in tensions in the past few years in particular, bringing up the Presbyterian position on BDS, as well as the UCC position on BDS, that the issue of the land, the issue that John raised, is, I think, going to be the major talking point between Jewish-Christian relations certainly in the next 10 to 15 years – David – David Om-bok – [David] Thank you very much Could I raise a question for probably both John Borelli and Peter Phan? It’s a theological question, and it’s stimulated by John’s comment that he thought that some of the issues of the relation to Islam demand further development and further understanding of the theology of revelation, especially with regard to the role of the prophet of Muhammad in Islam and how that relates to Christianity So the revelation emphasis that John highlighted, and then Peter’s point at the end about a more spiritual relationship between Christians and other traditions being in the Spirit which somehow reaches beyond There’s a kind of apophatic quality to the relationship to the Spirit that goes beyond words, and, in other words, in some way beyond what might be called revelation, or certainly beyond the theology of the word that we would find as an emphasis both in Judaism and Christianity about, I’m interested in this We’ve got a theology of the word in Christianity, but also a theology of the spirit And the two of them are not completely identical What I’m trying to grapple with here is how we put together the much more specific claims about who Jesus is or who Muhammad is that you would get in a revelation-based approach to these issues versus an experiential base that is more praying together with people who are different that goes beyond those words, how this works out Is this a direction in which we might be able to go forward about a theology of the word versus a theology of the spirit, or a theology of revelation

versus a more apophatic beyond revelation idea? – Thank you, David Peter? – The first caution I’d like to make is not to draw the parallel between Jesus and the Prophet The parallel is between Jesus and the Quran The functions that Jesus performed for Christians, that function is performed by the Quran for the Muslim and not by the Prophet So that’s my first caution, not to confuse the kind of comparison that we may tend to because they’re both human beings, Jesus and the Prophet But the second aspect of your question is really, drive to the heart of the issue What constitutes revelation? Remember John’s questions And how is revelation an ongoing reality? We tend to limit revelation in a set of book Just as Muslims tend to set it in the Quran, even verbally, it had to be in Arabic and not any other language, we tend to think in terms of intellectually, of course we will in academia, we look at book And we focus on books, and books, in the case of the Bible But the experience of understanding what revelation means can be in itself based on the Bible It’s self referential Yet open up at that book and you cannot simply intratextually, just reading one page to compare another page, one text to another text and so forth on the Old Testament versus New Testament, intratextually, but you have to compare intertextually, which means when I read the Bible, I cannot read it by itself I have to read it in together with the Dhammapada I have seen (mumbles) here He has done another book that you need to buy for your parents (Drew and John laugh) And the same thing with the Book of the Dead, I Ching, and many others And so this understanding of revelation as an ongoing, and who is the agent of that? To the Spirit and the local community, not some kind of authority over in the Roman Curia They don’t know what grassroot here You mentioned Dominus Iesus I know the guy who wrote it, okay? I know him If he had just a little bit of experience with the mission, of sitting down with Muslims and Jews, you could never write such a thing It just doesn’t So I would say that, to answer your question, that (mumbles) the Holy Spirit, the local community, working together, and that is a new understanding of what’s going on when God speak to us – There’s a conciliar definition someplace that revelation ceased with the death of the last apostles, but biblical scholars have said, “Well, we’ve got some problems with that,” especially 2 Peter and so forth So we gotta look at that But I’m reminder of what Jacques Dupuis said when he presented his book, Towards a Theology of Religious Pluralism, which only got the criticism by the Doctrine of the Faith for being ambiguous When you spend two hours presenting Dominus Iesus and AP comes out with the headline Only Catholics Can Be Saved, it seems that charge is against CDF also But Jacques said God, from the beginning, entered into the life of humanity through word and spirit And with the appearance of Christ, God didn’t cease that He continued So how do we work with that? And I think if we take now this new text Not so new, 1998 is it? The Pontifical Biblical Commission, and start drawing some of the implications from this text and try to expand our theology of revelation, then we can get around to talking about the Quran and so forth But when Francis Sullivan, who’s not exactly a raving liberal, can say that, “I’m not gonna consider Islam “when I’m talking about other religions here “because it is based in part on biblical revelation,” well, it is, in the oral tradition, at least, to which Muhammad was subject So I think we can talk about it, but we gotta take on the deeper question of theology revelation, and I agree with Peter, the directions he gives

– It’s time for the break, and– – We can take one more – Take one more, okay (mumbles) someone, back there, yes – There we go Nope – [Paula] My name is Paula McCabe I’m a parishioner at Holy Trinity and I’m pleased to be here among other parishioners My question relates to the impact that you expect and the contribution that you would expect from interreligious families, especially couples This has been hinted at It’s in all of the remarks But and sort of more obvious things, what hope or expectation you have for this sector in terms of impact and contribution to dialogue and prayer together and other things? – Do you do much work in Baltimore with interfaith couples? – Yes and no. (laughs) I hate to give a sort of pessimistic response, but I think I’m going to, not on the part of the interreligious families but on the part of the religious community’s ability to begin theologizing about interreligious families I think that those questions have really yet to be fully explored, and so there’s not a lot of resources for thinking about, what does it mean to be an interreligious family, and then how does it affect what it means to be a community and a particular member of a community? I think in Baltimore in particular, we did a program on interreligious marriage and families, and the comfort level on the part of the clergy that were present in the room was to present, “This is a Catholic view of marriage,” “This is a Jewish view of marriage,” and to explore and explain what the ideal form of marriage was, and then to be anxious about the interreligious component of families that may be in their communities And so I think to a certain extent, interreligious families can feel abandoned leading up to the marriage and then also dealing with the birth of a first child But then there’s a sort of desire on the part of communities to reach out and try to scoop them back in, and sometimes it may be a little bit too late or seem disingenuous But I think that you are right to raise it as a major place for future thinking and future dialogue – I think, well, first of all, the problem that the rabbinic councils in the United States have asked the Catholic Church, “Don’t do it “Don’t allow it.” And so you have very few rabbis that are there to go with the couple At the same time, one out of three Jewish adults marries a non-Jew, so the other two marry each other So half of their marriages– (audience laughs) Half of their marriages are with non-Jews, which is why Jewish population has remained very much the same, and there are worries There are worries about the preservation of the faith But I think this is the future I know my wife and I take a round of marriage prep in the parish every year And one year with the coordinator of the parish, we just had an open night for interfaith marriages We were mobbed by people So there’s a hunger to address this And I think the couple will have to live out the relationship in the two traditions, and for each kind of couple, there are different questions to ask about living that, and it just takes time and expertise and dedication and support, which we always don’t seem to have the time for But I think that it’s definitely gonna happen – Quickly, one of our doctoral student here, Erika Seamon, did her dissertation on precisely interreligious marriages, so I’d recommend again that, because our doctoral program here, if I make a little bit of propaganda for it, is to bring about and gather the study of two different distinct religious traditions, and within this context that she does this study of interreligious marriage in the United States But the Asian bishops who brought up the issues of interreligious marriage at the Synod of the Family recently, because why else do you have this? It is not an exception It is the norm When you are only about, oh, maybe five, six percent of the entire population and you look around for a husband and wife, you are not looking at Christians or Catholic You’re looking at the other side

So it is, again, an appeal to the concrete, grassroots experiences It is these families who live their lives, Buddhist-Christians, Buddhist-Hindus, and Christian-Hindus mostly, it is gradually, it is their children who grow up and it is in their families that they say, “This is not an abstract issue “It is a (mumbles) issue, and we will work out “how we can preserve both our faiths.” And so they go to the temple Like we say in Japan, you are born a Shinto, you marry as a Christian, and you die as a Buddhist, because at each time, there are wonderful celebrations for each ritual of the– (audience laughs) – Join me in thanking all the speakers (audience applauds)


#10 : Modélisation et Texturing d'une porte [Blender]

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rennais barreau aux monstres trouveront plus facilement ça c’est la porte porte l’autre on n’a pas besoin de le renommer parce qu’on n’aura pas besoin maintenant pour la porte on va lui mettre la texture je regarde quand même temps à nous sommes déjà 20 minutes donc je pense que je vais en temps puis j’ai continué à faire un long épisode désolé mais il faut alors on va prendre nos faces ici donc vous pouvez directement plus sélectionné ce pas grave on fait eu un projet de from view on ouvre une fenêtre du vih editor nous n’avons pas encore la texture du coup on fenioux on ouvre donc moi c’est dans le bureau et on met la texture pour la forte bon allez pas très très joli mais je me suis pas embêtés j’ai pris la première qui venait donc on passe en revue texture est donc égale z/os fait là pour aussi bien voir et on n’a plus qu’à juste qu’on veut c’est de la m au maximum il ya un petit défaut sur la texture c’est qu’on voit qu’elle va se dupliquer ici donc ça fait pas beau alors on va l’écraser un peu voilà comme ceux ci c’est pas mal je trouve on va regarder à la revue d’arrière oreilles non là c’est nickel suffit plus qu’à faire ici l’intérieur sinon c’est pas mal moi j’aime bien voilà donc on va créer notre matériel donc on vous prenez l’apport matérial et on l’appelle portes dans texture new image hors movie opened des stops planches hop c’est toujours pareil vincent sur unity j’ai juste fait avoir l’imagination c’est pas très compliqué à moody’s c’est mon point de vue voilà on peut faire un rendu ça on peut le faire mais voilà est vrai donc je trouve ça fait pas mal quand même pour une petite porte de que je l’improvisé je savais pas qu’on ait faire sa double up mais ne reste plus qu’à modifier l’intérieur dont on comprend cela va prendre celle là on pas s’embêter forcément vu de dessus au projet de francs bio uv images éditeurs on se remet en alsace pour bien voir on ouvre notre textures et on a juste fait pas trop de jeunes a vu cela il ya combien de plein fouet à une deux trois quatre cinq ça par contre ça c’est bien chiant voilà comme ça ça c’est pas mal hop donc ça c’est fait attends je mets web la caméra là pour bien voir en dessous ah ça va ça ça rend pas trop mal ans non nous as à faire les côtés hop on se met de vue de côté eu projet de proview c’est pas mal il nous le garde comme ça déjà p on a juste comme ces deux côtés on n’est pas censé le voir deux planches voilà comme ça sera pas vain voilà comme ça c’est bien moi j’aime me suis rendu voilà bon je trouve que résultats y pas mal donc on a quasiment fini on va pas tous en bêta fin des détails que vous aurez pu faire par exemple peut ici des petits objets qui y tiennent notre porte nour pas trop s’embêter on va le laisser comme ça je trouve que c’est déjà pas mal donc des chaleurs on peut effacer l’encoche car on en a pas besoin à quoi que c’est vrai qu’on peut faire d’une autre façon c’est bien on pourrait garder l’encoche et dans une hutte yeoh récupérer directement le le mesh porte mais il faut la porter en point bhl est né savent être chiant perso ça

m’intéresse pas donc on va effacer l’encoche parce qu’on n’a pas besoin voilà et voilà la porte on l’a on peut est facile alors on n’a plus besoin la caméra non plus là si ça fait un défaut mais on s’en fiche parce que ah si on le verra c’est vrai donc il faut le faire hop ben c’est simple on va les 8 du projet de prendre view n il veille magie du tort on fait pareil texture plein on va l’habitude de france jdx très beau quand on est juste laissé une planque en fait voilà comme ça ces vols donc voilà on a retrouvé fait donc les barreaux on peut les rattacher au là donc j’ai filmé disent on va les laisser comme ça ils sont en bien comme ça voilà donc on va exporter notre mèche ont des sections tour exporte autodesk fbx notre porte fb x voilà maintenant on retourne sur un autre en cause porte on le nomme bien koch encoches on supprime la lampe xx x la caméra voilà et en exporte encoches portes voilà donc nos objets sont exportés là ça fait bientôt trente minutes donc je vais pas aller plus loin dans la prochaine d’un prochain tutoriaux nous allons importer nos objets dans unity et nous allons daucourt un peu le map et notre labyrinthe pour remettre un peu partout et nous allons commencer le script pour essayer d’ouvrir la porte donc voilà je pense que c’est bon pour ce tutoriel vous expliquer peu près ce qu’on va faire la prochaine fois donc c’est vrai j’ai appris les cours donc maintenant pour faire des couturiers c’est un peu dur je vais essayer comme d’en sortir deux par semaine je vais essayer et aux moyens aura un parent se mettre sa cession voilà j’espère que ce tutoriel vous a plu et on se retrouve dans le numéro 11 à les installer vista bisous bisous et si vous avez des questions n’hésitez pas je vous répondrai aussi vite je suis tout temps sur youtube donc je le vois donc voilà allez salut salut bisous bisous


Minecraft Blender Tutorials: Episode 1 – Creating Steve (Character Modeling & Rigging)

hey what’s going on guys it’s not muck here and today I give you a tutorial in blender 2.69 of how to make you very a Minecraft rig so this tutorial I’ll be showing you how to make basic steve mesh and rig him with simple armatures so the first thing we’re going to need to do when we’re in blender first you need to download it just delete everything now shift day add cube so that’s how first cube can also go numpad 5 to get into auto view now if we click and drag this little thing here over change from 3d view to UV image editor now we have an imager so if we come back to the 3d view press tab on the cube double a to select old meshes now your image open image and find your skin so mines my documents pictures snuff my sniper mike dot PNG now you notice your skin file will appear here now the next thing we’re gonna need to do since this here is actually equivalent 10 pixels by 10 pixels is scale it down to 0.1 so that will make it so that it’s equivalent that cube there’s a prevent to one pixel by one pixel so what we need to do now is come over here in the 3d view press n pops up this and under the shading tab make sure the texture solids on now if you notice your zoom in and your textures there and you might also notice your texture might be blurry so to fix that go file user preferences system turnoff bitmaps see now it’s nice and good so now we need what we need to do is first turn on snap so we can either get a shift tab and you’ll notice this little magnet turns on or we can just press the magnet now if we press tab while the cube selected and changed face selection tool and click on the front face remember to get the front front auto numpad 1 that’s the front face there so now what we need to do is select these meshes and just move them to the front of his face now you might notice that it’s upside-down so we can just select the meshes rotate it oops rotate it by 180 and just make sure everything’s lined up properly so and that line up yep so now we just continue doing that for the rest of his head so now as you can see I’ve fully textured this head make sure you get the bottom eyes sometimes leave the bottom out so next thing we’re going to do is since this is like sort of the base cube so we don’t have to go shift air add a cube and then texture it all over again if we just keep this base cube it will help a lot – trust me it will save a lot of time texturing will make it a duplicate shifty and then just right-click so it makes another duplicate as you can see if I press G to grab it you have to now so we can just move that to the from layout I usually put the base cube to that lab now what we can do is duplicate this base for you but again except this time move it up up on the z-axis I’ll just move it to there and remember before I said this is one pixel while one pixel we’re going to press s to scale and then type eight so now that represents eight pixels by 8 pixels by 8 pixels that’s how high his head is now I just move that up a bit now some people got a bit upset because I kept duplicating the base cube for the arms and everything so oops if you want to read texture it you can go ahead but I’m just going to use the base cube so I made another duplicate this is for the body so since the body is eight pixels wide on the x-axis four pixels wide on the y-axis and then on the z-axis it’s 12 pixels so now we just need to move the textures so just go into edit mode just left all the meshes select all the meshes here let me just move it to somewhere where about somewhere like that and then we just and then we just select each individual bit and fix it up

not that so now we have the body done now if you want to like I said before you can start over it takes a new whole new cube but I’m just going to duplicate it so this one scallop by four and then three thumbs ed and then this one’s simpler you just grab them scale it to 0.5 chuck it down there like that now we can do it again for the foot okay right I think you know I supposed to be on that side oops now instead of going ahead and duplicating this and making the arm and leg again what we need to do is just duplicate it and move it over but you’ll notice it the textures don’t match up like this black pixel here supposed to be there for his pants so what we need to do is flex here’s I’ll just do it for his arm and then make sure your own face select select the front face make sure all the meshes are selected here then press the space and type mirror and then click mirror now it says select a mirror axis so if I press X you notice it mirrors the textures so that’s correct now so as you can see it’s mirrored and then what we need to do I’ll just move it out for this one and this one so this one here this texture here is actually in the wrong place so we’ll just move it to here and then mirror that one so now if you notice if we look at this side it all lines up yep that’s all right and then select this one merit and then for the back he just mirror it and the top and the bottom so now your nurse I’ve got to all the pixels line up properly it’s not derpy and weird like that and since that duplicating not sorry since mirroring takes quite a while I usually just tend to delete that leg duplicate the arm over and then just move the textures there we go all done so now we have a basic Steve mesh um I’m just going to move it up so I just box selected bg2 grab now if you’d noticed if I press select arm and rotate it it rotates from there so gotta fix the origin rotation point so if we go into edit mode just left all the meshes press G to grab and make sure it’s two pixels from the top so you like that two pixels and then we can just move it back so now if you’ve rotated it it lines up perfectly and we just do that for this arm as well and the leg oops just there just there we don’t need that for now Edie like that body like that so now all the rotation points are set up properly now again I’m just going to name all the objects it helps a lot with rigging so we’ll just come in here I usually do our player oops player under score mesh on the score head but you don’t have to do that English type head and then months go left and then on the scroll right and make sure if we go into like what his view would be that’s his left arm that’s his right arm don’t get that confused my body Legg left leg right so now we have a basic cement

or better save it tutorial rig I already have one elate size okay make sure you save regular regularity so you don’t lose your work and back up as well so now we have our basic state mesh we’re going to make basic armature so if we go shift a add armature single bone you’ll notice it adds something but you don’t know where it is so we just come down to here on the cube but I think that’s object at bar yeah amateur group press X right so now it’s x-ray so you can see through now what we’re going to do is just move this up to just where his leg and body meet and just rotate that so that’s going to be the move bone there and if we go into edit mode we can select each point and then just extrude with a subdivide and then we can extrude out this way now that way this way oops delete that and then we can get the arms straight them down and delete them so now it’s parented and then simply just do this again oops so now we have a basic armature now if you’d notice the move bone might be broken so if that happens just grab this one down and grab his tail just move it out to there and subdivide that one so now that one works and the legs aren’t parented so we just select both of them then go control peek oops not connected keep offset so now the move bone moves everything except for the mesh because we need to parent the mesh but before we do that you’ll notice that when if if we rotate our arm bone it rotates up there we don’t want that so we just shut the heads of the bone and now it rotates from the origin point oops now this is the bit where it gets a bit tricky so I’ll just save make it back up now what we need to do is move the bones not bones that up the mesh out everything out like this so it’s all spread out so none of the weight paints mixing with other ones and also with this make sure it’s an edit bone for the bone so this will make sure all the weight paints don’t mix in with each other now if we select the arm and I’m going to use smooth bends for this one since that’s the simplest if we go control our while in edit mode you notice it comes up down here select a ring cut so this splits the mesh so if I just did one and then parented that with automatic weights you notice see it sort of deep forms like that I really like just using one I prefer to use oh well like five pixels so you notice all the pixels are covered there all the pixels are covered there then there and if there’s a for for block wide for pixel wide we do three subdivisions and then same with this arm so 11 by 3 5 3 I won’t listen right yep that’s it and then for the arms a leg sorry 11 5 3 5 coops and then 11 three and for the body 11 by 7 5 3 and we don’t need a door for the head because the head doesn’t actually bends so now we have to parent everything up so with the head that’s easiest just it’s like

the head then the bone ctrl P bone so now we his head moves and like you said saw before if we select arm then the mesh mesh then go ctrl P parent with automatic weights now see I really like these before I found out how to do like proper rigid bends on my new rig if you haven’t seen that i’ll possibly be releasing them tutorial soon so we just parent everything to its bone then oops see what i did i just painted it to the bone don’t do that you need to do automatic weights and i’m just testing everything to make sure it works out properly you probably notice see how if I rotated this one it sort of deforms because of that bone so what we can do is select the armature change this to weight paint now this weight paint is very difficult for beginners so just come over take your subtract brush right click on this bone and you know see that’s the area that’s being affected so I just put my strength all the way up and just erase it all make sure you get every bit of it usually go over if I’m wait painting go over twice because I usually make mistakes now that’s done we can just change this back to object mode and now you notice if we move it doesn’t affect it now so now I’m just going to move all the burns back in edit mode and then all how much is say just test everything so yeah everything’s working fine for this so now I’m just gonna put a little limit system on these arms because it’s a bit weird how they can bend back it’s so if you just go to the object constraint and all bone constraint and come here and a limit rotation there I’m not sure which axes its rotate on x axis so convert world space change that to local space limit X and put the max to 90 minimum to negative 90 so that makes it so composure there and limit X and Z so now it can only move there you can put this higher so negative let’s just go 130 oh that’s 160 130 so now it can go all the way to there I usually just leave it like that think of 90 and then we’ll just another constraint not location so rotation limit make sure that’s on local space and negative 90 so now you can only go to 90 degrees and then for this one here ad burn constraint limit rotation now this one’s different I think the max nope minam is 90 degrees I think ya know it’s it’s still the same yep naked naughty wait no it is sorry it is 90 I forgot to put it to local space so now the what sorry yeah I stuffed up the legs a bit sites it’s actually limit X zero to 90 so their accident header and world space but it’s supposed to be on the local space so now we have all basic Steve room which works well see nothing interferes with anything else oops it’s all working fine now I’m just going to quickly name all the bones so if we just come here just call this

bones which are and then this one’s body and that’s what – oops body under school one and then move so this will help like a lot when animating women come in it we get to animating so left I was one left under script – right right so oops leg rotten let’s go on like Bharat honesty there’s no one like that comes to head now before we go I nearly forgot the most important thing we need s and textures oops get out of that I don’t need Camtasia only using it for recording so what we need to do is while they had selected or anything make sure you press new so this will make a new material if we just name this Steve or character or anything this is a really long tutorial this one make sure yep only thing that you need change is diffuse make sure that’s all the way at white and specular I usually turn that off but if you want sort of like a little glossy I’ll just put the color down so you can see see how the lights it makes it like glossy and you can just muck around with the hardness and stuff but I usually turn it off fully now what we’re gonna need to do just select everything now change that to character character character character character character everything’s character now we’re coming to the texture tab make sure the first plots selected and press new and call this Steve or character and then change the type from clouds to image or movie now under the image tab choose stop Mike or obviously you’re not going to be making me unless you’re making me something which you probably won’t anyway just choose your skin now come down here coordinates change generated to UV image sampling turnoff alphab and then turn off MIT maps interpretation change the filter from AWA to feline and put the filter size down 2.1 so now it would render properly so i’ll just quickly add a camera I’ll be doing another tutorial I think episode 3 how to set up lighting in camera and stuff Chuck on some ambient occlusion so now everything it renders out fun so if this tutorial helped you to like that if this tutorial helped you please leave a like it only takes a second and it shows that I have that you I helped you and you also gives me motivation to upload more videos and also click that sub button so you can be notified when I upload more so next episode I’ll be showing you is how to rig his face to have a face rig using shape keys so so thanks for watching see you guys


Create a Photorealistic Fruit Splash in Blender

g’day this is Andrew price here from blender cool calm and in this video tutorial I’m going to be showing you how to create this image right here so of course we’re going to be using blenders built in fluid simulator and we’re going to be dropping in some virtual fruit into a virtual tank of water so this is sort of a take on a popular photography method a lot of photographers like to do it they drop fruit into stuff and then they take photos of it like they drop all sorts of stuff into everything and they create what’s called I think it’s splash photography I think it’s even got a name and it looks cool because I guess you know although the naked eye sees a lot of splashes you rarely ever get to see the detail so when you use a camera and you can fit time when you can photograph that exact moment when a splash happens it looks very interesting and it’s very appealing to the viewer so this is essentially using 3d software to mimic that effect and give you a lot more control over it and yeah it’s it’s a lot of fun although the fluid simulator can be a little bit frustrating at times it is overall a lot of fun so there’s not really any rocket science to the fluid simulator I’ve essentially just been working on this over the last week and a half I’ll pretty about a week these are some of the original images that I started with I originally was going to make this a typography tutorial using logos and stuff so I experimented with that I was going to make it an animation but as you can see it didn’t really turn out all that great you can see that the bubbles start to peel away very easily and I thought I don’t know if that’s really going to work I tried it with a a light-up logo this one you can see right here and that you can see the varying different levels of effects and stuff you can get but essentially this this whole process was just trying out different fluid settings and just seeing how it works so if you’ve never used the fluid simulator before it takes a while to bake things so it it’s really good learning technique you just setup something try some different settings and then you bake it and you see how it goes so these are some of the images that I went with I was experimenting here we go getting into some fruit some lemons and some limes until I finally landed upon this final image that you can see right there so I’ll show you the finished what the finished scene looks like it’s this one you can see right here it’s just a big tank of water it goes really slow moving around here because there is a lot of Poly’s right there underneath all that we’ve got three pieces of fruit with some particles that are peeling off it so I’ll show you how to model an orange just to give you sort of a you know fruit introduction I guess it’s not really part of the tutorial so I’ll sort of speed over that but then we’ll get into some particles as well to create these little fake air bubbles there just to give it a little bit more appeal and then of course the the big old fluid simulator as well so um go ahead and download the starter file for this project now the starter file it’s essentially it’s got these three pieces of fruit in it however I’m going to show you very quickly now how to model in orange because I know some people like to learn these things and other people just want to get to the meat of it so I’ll show you very quickly now modeling an orange as quickly as we can so it’s really simple we’re just going to add in a UV sphere like this and we want to UV unwrap it because we’re going to be adding in some bump mapping to get the kind of the nice effects the little dimples and stuff over the orange so I’m just going to select those two seams like that and then I’m going to hit what am I going to select not extrude oh dear forgot what I’m doing Oh ctrl e there we go mark seam okay so selecting mark seam you can see it’s got a red red line around it then I’m just going to split this view right here I’m going to hit you unwrap and I’m just going to just scale that up to be about there we don’t need to put an image there because we’re actually going to be using procedural textures ok so then going over to the material panel right here I’m going to add a new material to it and I’m just going to leave that set as diffuse now I’m going to split this view go into the node editor and this is wearing a matte have a lot more control over the material so the first thing I want to do is to get that that nice sort of dimply ripple sorry bump effect was essentially trying to mimic the look of an orange skin okay I guess we should turn on smooth shading for this I’m also going to add in a subsurf modifier as well and while I’m at it I’m also going to add in some lighting just so that we can see how this looks as we’re creating it it’s always good to see what’s happening okay like that and I’ll just give this Matar oh I made the orange in the meter okay that wasn’t right make that diffuse and make the

light emitter set that to five all right okay cool so what I want to do now is to add in that bump map so we’re going to be using a verano texture so go ahead and add that in and I want to set the scaling for this to be about 400 and then we also want to set the vector so it needs to be using the UV texture vector thing now I think previously in earlier versions of blender it by default it set it as UV but anyway now I actually have to set it so I’m going to go texture coordinates and I’m going to set that to UV just like that plug that in there so that was input texture coordinate by the way if you missed that and now I’m going to add in a mix note drop this into the bottom input set this to be multiply I’m going to leave the top blank but I’m going to set it as pure white just like that this is how you do bump mapping by the way if you if you weren’t aware and then I just take that output of that multiply node and I put that into the displacement right there and voila you can see you’ve now got some bump mapping and if I wanted to get even more fancy which which we should I suppose I’m going to invert it like that and now you can see you’ve got the bumps that are sort of going in the right direction and you can change how much bump mapping you want by turning down that multiply factor amount just like that and so although that’s not perfect it’s pretty good for procedural textures now if you wanted to you can actually duplicate this vertex Chur set this to be a scale of 140 and then add in a mix node like so whoops take the output of that put that in there set that multiply oh yeah change this mixed type to be multiplied then take the output of that UV note and then put it in there like that and now that’s going to give you some more sort of bigger chunkier know how to say it bigger bumps and stuff like that so let’s try screen I’m not sure which one it is supposed to be I think screen might be right yeah that makes sense and if you want you can turn that down if it’s too much as well I’m I said 2.3 or something like that but that’s essentially it that is the that’s the sort of the bump mapping of the orange and then if you want to give it some color which I’m assuming you too can it give that a nice orange color like that turn the brightness all the way up to one or that slider all the way up to the top and then you’ve got the basic skin of it now this should be there should be some shine to this so if you wanted to make it shiny then all you do is add in a glossy node drop this in right here then go to shader then mix shader’ make sure it’s not a mix no but it’s a mix shader’ node drop that in right there then take the output of the glossy node put it in there and now we’ve got some shininess to it you don’t want it to be too shiny of course and then we turn that down to about there and you can turn down the sort of how much reflectivity you want that on to have some how clear you want that and you can sort of experiment with those results I think the bump mapping is a little bit too much as well but you get the gist of it so that is the basic material of that now there’s a little bit of modeling to do as well if you want to create that top part of the orange so I’m just going to go hit oh and this is going to go into proportional editing and now I’m just going to move this down slightly just like that and I’m going to grab this ring of vertices right there and I’m going to scale that in and I’m going to pull that one in there as well you could create another edge loop here which I think I might do actually make it a little bit better look another one there as well you could fix up the UV mapping if you wanted to but I’m really going to worry about it’s not that big of a deal and now I’m just going to select about five sort of seams along here just like this two three okay so that’s four and I’ll create another one right there and then I’m just going to move that down just like that so you can see what we’re doing now we’re just creating that top part of the orange and then I’m just going to go into top view mode I’m just going to unselect those ones right there and then I’m going to move those up slightly just sort of sort of fading off a little bit and you can see the sort of effect it has and then to create that stem it’s pretty easy I’m just going to duplicate that ring right there I’m going to make it a separate object by hitting P I’m going to select that let’s go ctrl alt shift see the most Awkward key combination ever then select origin to geometry and then if I just extrude that inwards like that then up and up and then create a face just like so and you might have to of course recalculate those normals because it’s all been screwed up nope so this is a obviously a very basic introduction to

creating an orange I really only wanted to show it to you because I know some of you might want to be creating some different types of fruit or I don’t know you want to sort of feel as though you know you’re not starting with a starter file under some people myself included when I’m doing a tutorial I don’t like to start with somebody else’s work I like to do everything from scratch so for those people I’m just giving you a very basic look at creating an orange so this is the stem right here I’m just going to give this a very dark green color like that something around about that that’s diffuse as well if you want to change the viewport color just select that little eyedropper tool there and then select that might do the same for the orange as well that way it’s sort of easier to tell in 3d viewport what you’re looking at you can add some more detail to that stem if you like but that’s basically it there is actually one more thing if you wanted to to give the the orange a little bit more realism you don’t want it to all be exactly the same one color so what I’m going to do is just add in a noise texture right here and I’m add a mix node in change this type to be overlay and I’m going to drag the output of that noise texture into the bottom input there and then put this into the diffuse right there the color has now completely changed but I’m just going to make this now the color of my orange so just changing that like that and you can see you’ve now got some slight pinkish and different colors happening in that orange so it’s not all the you know the same color and the lower you set this to then the less of that variation color is going to be showing through but it does help to have you know little things like that can just make it go from looking average to looking more realistic so you can see the difference it’s made and looks quite cool and also one other thing as well if you wanted to add a displacement modifier whoops what happened there all right there we go just like that and this is just going to get our just going to give it a little bit more variation since the texture panel if you want to change the displacement just go change that type to displacement right there and then you can change sort of the rippling of that orange because you don’t want it all to look exactly the same you know oranges aren’t completely symmetrical they’ve got little bumps and nooks and crannies and stuff happening so this is just essentially just replicating that type of effect very quickly with very very minimal modeling anyway you can experiment with that but that’s the gist of it guys I’m sure you get the hang of it so if you want to go ahead now and create those three other fruit so on this last layer here if you’ve downloaded the file I’ve got a lime I’ve got a lemon which is sliced and that lemon by the way has just got this image if I can find it that one right there so that is off seedy textures so you’ll have to download that if you wanted to use that but you can see the fruit are very basic and and that is the gist of it so without further ado let’s get into the rest of the tutorial so I’m actually just going to go ahead and delete my orange right here you can keep yours if you want but you know I’ve already created three over here that are ready to go so it’s all good and fine okay so now we can finally get into the fluid simulation so if you’ve never used the fluid simulator before for any simulated work the first thing you need is a domain box so the domain box is essentially just a cube so if we add a cube in right here and this cube will act as the boundary box for the simulation so all of the water simulation is going to be yeah happening inside this box right here so you want to make it as small as possible because the large you make the box and the more fluid bake time you’ll have to wait for but you also want to make it large enough that the sides of the boundary box aren’t visible for the shot so I’m just going to scale this up right here so that it fits all of our fruit into it and I’m going to go into edit mode and I’m just going to move that cube upwards like that just so that origin point is in place right there so it’s on the grid floor and then I’m going to exit our the edit mode like that now is actually a good time to be positioning the camera because a lot of sort of or yeah a lot of the the sizing of this boundary box right here is going to be defined by what the camera can see so if I just go to the layer one over here and just grab the camera and then if I go into our front view then hit ctrl alt number pad zero and that’s going to snap the camera to that location right there now I’m just going to change some of these camera parameters I guess so I’m going to change the camera preset to be a Canon 7d and that just changes this sensor with information so you can see it looks kind of zoomed in a little bit more now I’m not sure if that changes too much on how the actual image looks when it’s rendered or if it’s just purely for camera tracking but anyway I like to fiddle with these presets because they’re kind of fun and the focal length I’m gonna make that 90

which as you can see is really really zoomed in but I found that it looks nicer because instead of having that you know sort of three-dimensional feel with lots of stuff happening and foreground and a background and stuff like that having a high focal length allows it to focus on just sort of one part and you can see that it’s very clean very cut and all you’re seeing is the fluid and it just I found it looked a little bit that’s why I’m using a focal length of 90 and also I found that photographers if they’re going to be photographing splash effects and stuff like that often the camera is far away from where it’s happening because obviously they don’t want to get water on the camera so it’s sort of a little bit more realistic that way as well okay so positioning this camera right here I’m just going to move this to beat about there so you can see these that this is the boundary box of our of our domain the fluid domain so provided that the camera is not so far out that you can see the edges of the box like that it should be fine now then you want to scale down the height of the box because if you’ve got it too high then it’s just going to be wasting a lot of space I think you can also scale it actually I’ll leave the the width of it like that that should be fine you get some ripples and stuff like that but scaling that down to be about there but you’re just leaving a lot of room at the top there just so that the splash can sort of splash upwards without it looking as though it’s just hit the ceiling of something so that’s why we’ve got that and so now that we’ve got the boundary box the next step of course is to add in the fluid object itself so this is just as you can imagine if it’s a fish tank this is just the glass shell so now you actually need some water in there so I’m just going to duplicate that cube right there and I’m just going to scale that down just slightly looking like this right here just like that and then I’m going to scale that to be around about actually let’s move that up okay so the camera should really be in line with with that level right there so you should be able to look across the water to be about there if that makes sense alright so for scale that down okay cool so provided that that top part there is level that should be fine and then you also you don’t want there to be too big of a gap between this edge there and then this or otherwise when the the simulation takes place you’ll see that this fluid drops and it kind of splashes around and stuff like that so you might have to bake out more of the fluid simulator but if you make it as close as possible and then use a high enough resolution of the fluid itself then you shouldn’t have too many problems of the you know the water sloshing around and stuff like that when the simulation starts but anyway that’s the basics of it right there so I think I just might scale that down just a little bit more as well but I think now we are just about ready to to start the fluid get into the fluid settings and whatnot just check everything’s looking good okay cool so starting with the boundary box or the domain object which is really where most of the settings take place so selecting that cube right there if we go to the simulation tab up there or the physics tab as they call it then click on fluid then change the type to be domain all right so the biggest one that you want to pay attention to is the resolution so essentially that defines how clear and how realistic or you know the resolution of the fluid is pretty self-explanatory so for my final animation I used an amount of 245 or 246 and like that but for this particular one I’m going to be using something low just so that we can experiment with a little bit I’m just going to use 85 for now just to see how it looks and then down here underneath the fluid world you can see you’ve got real world size now this actually fits so this is in meters that’s 50 centimeters so this fish tank if you can imagine it’s 50 centimeters across I’d say that’s pretty accurate so that’s fine but if this was a bigger scene then you need to increase the meters to match that basically now the fluid boundary this is going to change sort of so when the fluid interacts with that edge of that fish tank it’s going to change if it sort of sticks to the sticks to the edge or if it slides completely off so I’m going to make mine free slip so that you don’t get any of the you know the water hitting it and then kind of staying there for a little bit now if you’ve got a newer version of blender I think in two point four three I’m not sure which one this is actually hang on let me just have a look splash screen 2.63 so this is a new build but I think the the early versions they don’t have this but there’s one that says remove air bubbles so this is a new feature for the fluid simulator so I’m going to uncheck that because you actually want there to be as many air bubbles as possible because that’s obviously going to make this scene look very realistic now down here underneath the fluid particles I’m going to change this generate particles to be 0.1 and that’s just going to create some really

sort of finer and more detailed looking droplets than what is normally possible with just you know the standard resolution fluid so it’s kind of like faking extra little water droplets but if you set it too high then it can look a little bit chaotic I found point one worked quite well for this so that’s what we’re going to use however keep a note that whenever you use the generate particles amount there you have to change the subdivision amount to two as a bare minimum so if you don’t set that to two then this generate particles thing won’t happen basically in fact if it were up to me if I was a coder I’d make it so that this is greyed out until that is at least two because it’s very confusing from UV yeah for new users and myself included I had no idea why this wasn’t working but anyway subdivision two and then generate particles yeah point one now the smoothing amount you can leave that if you want I set mine to be one point two that just sort of smooths out the the fluid just a little bit more than usual so it doesn’t look too kind of chaotic for this scene I found that one point two worked quite well everything else is pretty good you want to set this the file baking browser this is essentially where it’s going to save your baked files so I’m just going to give this a new name here I’m going to call this cache tutorial and I’m going to hit accept now whatever you set that to like if you set a name that previously exists you can see I’ve got a few here if you set one that previously exist like it was before then it’s going to load in that bake data for you which is why that’s suddenly changed to look like fluid now that I’ve set it as a different folder you can see that it’s now snapped back to its original main box now the big one that we need to pay attention to is this one right here the time field so for this this animation or this simulation we’re just creating a still image so essentially we can get away with using a timeline of a very small amount of frames so I’m just going to use 25 frames now if this was an actual animation and you want it to be in slow motion and show the you know the fruit sort of slowly coming down into the water then you want to set that to be quite high like I think I originally set one of mine to be like 350 frames and I slowly baked it and it was really really long time too and yeah it was a lot of work but anyway because this is just a still image you can get away with as few frames as possible and essentially what that does is it saves you all of that bake time so I’m going to set that to be 25 frames then you want to set this time field to match the length of this timeline right here so I would set this end amount to be 1 now this is in seconds so 25 frames if you’re familiar with video footage 25 frames make up one second off footage so that’s why this time field singing it at start at zero and then end at 1 means that it’s now baking one second of fluid simulation so that would mean that if you played it back in real time it would look and behave exactly the way real fluid should however because this is sort of a more dramatic shot and you want to get more detail and stuff like that I’m actually going to go ahead and I’m going to set this speed to be 0.3 now actually the speed really behaves in a similar fashion to the way the time is so in that if you set this amount here to be I don’t know 0.3 then it would essentially be doing the exact same thing and then if you set that to be 1 so if that makes any sense but just for the sake of keeping things sort of accurate and the way things are I always set the time to match exactly what’s in my timeline here and then I change this speed so that it’s um yeah if I want to make something slow-motion then I just changed that speed right there so I’m saying that to be point 3 so it’s going to be essentially like one third of the speed of normal fluid and that’ll just give us a lot more detail and allow us to see things whatever et cetera et cetera okay cool so we’ve got the boundary box now set up so you’ve got this little cube in the middle there and that is of course acting as our water so again in the physics panel I’m going to select fluid then set the type to be fluid and that’s it that’s all you need to do for that very easy now these fruit objects right here this is another important one if you want them to be interacting with the fluid which we do then you also need to make them a fluid object so selecting that lime right there I’m going to select fluid and then from the type drop-down field I’m going to select obstacle like so now it’s important also like at one point I set this is the slip type sort of like how much friction the water’s going to have against this I once I set this to be no slip or like zero like that and it created like this weird vortex effect because the friction was so high on it that it was creating like this bubble around the entire thing it was a very weird result but I guess it’s kind of accurate to the way it would happen in the real world if something was so grippy on the water it would kind of create this vortex around it anyway so point is just leave it at point two you don’t need to change anything there I just thought I’d share that random useless piece of information for you

so I’m just going to do the exact same thing for these ones right here so they do obstacle and then this one right here as well now my lemon and my lime you can see they’ve got a subsurf modifier applied to them now you don’t need to worry about that sort of slowing down the fluid sim because there’s too many vertices or anything because the fluid sim always comes first so it’s actually just going to be operating off this basic mesh right here and then when it renders it it’s going to have that nice subsurf look to it so you don’t need to worry about you know turning any of this stuff off or whatever because it’s just going to it’s going to fine as it is so don’t worry about it okay so now that we’ve got that set up before obviously we start baking it we need to animate this fruit falling into this fluid here so essentially we want these fruit to be starting outside of the field and then slamming down there so that on frame 25 you’ve got them in essentially the position that you want to be photographing them so at frame 1 I’m going to position this orange to be about here and I’m going to select I and then select lock and rot so that stands for location and rotation so it’s making a key frame for that position right there I should also point out by the way the way that we’re doing this is this orange is flying down from the top left and is going to go there this lemon is coming down straight from the top and is landing there and then this this lime is coming from the right so essentially it creates a more nice-looking composition because you’ve got splashes going from left to right and the whole thing has got kind of bubbles and stuff happening and it looks a lot nicer than if you had everything just drop from the top at least that was sort of the my method to the madness or whatever so um so I’m just selecting so I’ve set the keyframe for that frame right there so it’s on frame one and also if you want to change the rotation of that Orange you can go ahead and do that right now as well so I might position that say about there so I want this stem that little green point right there to be visible to the camera so setting that right there and then on frame 25 now I didn’t create the extra keyframe all right do that again let’s move that up location rotation now on frame 25 if you go shift left arrow shift right arrow jumps from the first frame to the last frame by the way that’s a little P shortcut for you so on frame 25 from the camera view I’m going to position the orange exactly where I want it to be for the final render so something around about there should look nice by the way if you go down too far underneath the underneath the fluid then what happens is the fluid bubbles actually start to separate so if I just show you again how it was for this one right here you get this effect right here so as you can see as this this text starts to separate from the surface you can see that that fluid starts to peel away and then go towards the top there and it looks quite ugly and you can see that by that point it doesn’t look like a fluid simulate it looks quite boring so you want to get a photograph so that it’s in that kind of State right there so you want to make sure this orange and the fruit isn’t too far away from the surface or else you won’t get that that rattling or that to the splash effect going down underneath the surface so somewhere about there I think should be fine so I’m going to select I lock and rot like that okay now for this lemon slice right here I’m going to do the exact same thing I’m going to rotate this so that it’s about there like so and I’m going to hit location rotation and then frame 25 I’m going to move that down I’m going to position that about there and I’m going to hit wrote our location rotation so now when we animate it you can see that is what’s happening final one is this line right here pretty basic stuff again just going to move this around a little bit location rotation and then down here just move this a little bit further rotate that some more and then location rotation again so now you can see you’ve got the fruit moving into the fluid simulation like that and it’s looking kind of cool now when this fruit you can see that at the start it’s actually outside of the boundary box that’s actually not a problem I originally thought it would be and so I tried to position mine so that it wasn’t you know so they were way out there but I don’t think it actually matters if you’ve got obstacles that are outside of the fluid box and then they enter into it during the animation I think the the blender devs have done a good enough job that it doesn’t really matter about that too much now there’s one other thing you can see that at the start of the animation that it’s slow it’s slow to start so kind of like it starts and then it speeds up in the middle and then it slows down towards the end now anybody that’s been using blender for more than a couple of months probably already knows the reason for that that’s because keyframes automatically have this the smooth off what do you call them anchors whatever I

guess so a quick way to fix that if you just select those those those ones right there you can change it in two ways you can go if you hit V and then select vector then you’re going to be creating some you know harsher looking points like that so that when this orange here starts you can see that orange starts off really quickly and then it dips into the water there however you’ll notice that you might have to also adjust these handles so it kind of creates the right sort of look so oftentimes I find it’s uh well this is something I’ve started doing at least is I just select s then X going on these ones right here let’s just change them back to be automatic and s X is this even working s x0 okay there we go so now you’ve got a lot more accurate looking fall-off so essentially it’s starting off really quickly and then it’s slowing down as it enters the fluid and I actually want it to slow down as it enters the fluid because I figured that’s what would happen with real fruit if you drop it in a bucket of water it would slow down towards the end so that’s the effect that we’re going for and I’m going to do the same with these ones right here and you as well and there you go okay so everything else is set up so just going over these settings again just making sure that we’ve got everything the way it is again I’ve only got my where is it yeah the final resolution I’ve set that to be 85 I might actually just increase that to be 115 just so we can see how much resolution you know I clear enough resolution that we can sort of guess if it’s going the you know the simulation is working whatever but anyway let’s go ahead give this a bake right now depending on how long your machine is it’ll take longer my machine should be done within a couple of minutes so I’m just going to pause the recording and then we’ll see how it is when we get back okay so that took about 10 minutes I guess a little bit longer than I expected but anyways all right you can see that the fluid simulation has baked and it’s looking very very low res now the reason for that is that over here actually I can get rid of this now over here in the physics panel where it’s got viewport display it’s set to be preview so currently it’s actually using this amount of resolution 45 so if you actually change that now to be final then what you’ll see is you’ve got the obviously the more final looking fluid which looks obviously a lot nicer so with that fluid there selected we can actually now just turn on smooth shading that’s going to give us obviously some smoother looking fluid okay so the next step now that the fluid stimulator is baked and we can see that at sea if we just cycle through these frames here that that what would you call that splash that bubbling effect is originally want it to be so that it would be on frame 25 or 26 so that it works you can see just here where it’s sort of breaking away from that lime there so I’m just going to turn it back to be maybe frame 24 I think that might be okay or frame 23 depending on what sort of thing that we want but that’s looking pretty good so that’s looking fine so the next step is to set up the lighting the materials and essentially create the final image because the fluid simulation is now completely baked and it’s ready to go so yeah so for the setting up the lighting so let me just grab the fruit where the fruit okay so we put the fluid on the same layer as the fruit that was silly okay I’m going to move this fluid here to be on frame number one right there and I’m going to move this fruit to be on frame number two along with these stems as well I’ve created these little stems up with them on frame two as well there we go okay cool so so for the lighting I think currently we’ve got this big lamp overhead we actually don’t want that lamp to be exactly overhead because it’s going to create some sort of unnatural looking lighting sort of very cold very just yeah by the way I’m moving the other camera and the lamp to a different layer now so that I can focus on the fruit yeah so having an overhead light it kind of looks like it’s been shot in just an indoor area because lighting is you know especially like white lighting like a fluorescent lamp or whatever if it’s coming directly from a head it just reminds people of just just very bland overhead lighting from an interior so if you have the lighting from the side then it looks a lot more dynamic there dynamic and it looks a lot better so that’s what I’m doing right now so you can see if they’ve got the fluid right there so if I just scale that down to be about that size that should be good so that’s roughly about the same size as the width of that box there I guess that’s good and I’m going to set the emission amount I’m going to set that to

be 15 and I’m going to duplicate that plane I’m going to create another one on the other side and I’m just going to set this one to be one so I’ve said that make it a separate material set that to be one so that one’s 15 and that one is one so that lighting on the other side there it’s just going to give some very very soft very subtle highlights just on the left side so that it’s not completely pitch black because otherwise I can look a little bit bland and yeah okay now for the the world material I’m going to set that to be black just like that so the background is now completely black as well now for the fluid itself this material is actually quite easy just give it a surface type of glass and then set the IOR to be one point three three three or one point three three three three three yeah I think that’s right alright one point three three three I I keep forgetting away how many numbers I say I just anyway okay that right there now the color I’m going to set that to be white so that it’s not tinted in any way it’s a solid completely clear transparent color this index of refraction by the way the way you get that value if you just go to Google and you type in index of refraction then it’s going to give you a list of real world values of how light bends in different things so if you have glass I think it’s better as 1.1 and then if you have different materials then you change that value according to that so that’s like a real world value so you just Google what the real world value is and then you get it so it’s kind of cool you can just get a very accurate very easy material just by by googling something so it’s really cool okay so just having a look at the fruit itself so I just go to frame two sorry layer two here and then just turn on the layer with the lamps as well now if I give this a render right now we can see just how this looks with just the lights and see if we need to change anything but that looks pretty good to me the materials for these this fruit here is obviously already in place because we’ve just you know use that from the start of file but I’m sure you know how to set it’s pretty easy or you can just download it and have a look at the how the materials are set up as well okay but that’s looking pretty good so now let’s give it a render armed with the fluid as well and I’ll just see how that looks I’ll just set the the sampling I’ll change that to be 500 just so that we can get rid of a little bit more of that noise because once you add in the fluid and stuff like that I can get a little bit noisy a little bit quickly so let’s just have a look at that now alright that’s not too bad it’s pretty good you can see that the fruit actually is it’s actually hidden underneath the the fluid there so I’ll just cancel this now and I’ll just show you how to correct that oh by the way you want to make sure that this box by the way this fluid box is not rendered ever so this is the that fluid type object so make sure that’s on a separate layer and then it’s never rendered otherwise the render is just going to turn up pitch-black so just yeah if your reminder of that all right let’s get any arrived what am i doing where’s the fruit select a fruit okay cool so the reason that the render looks kind of weird and looks like you’ve got some kind of glass bubble around it is because the fluid is actually sort of in encasing it I guess so the way around this is just really easy just scale up the fruit like that so that’s what I did for mine so I just basically baked the fluid and then I just want to finish baking when it’s time for rendering I just scaled up the scaled up the actual fruit objects just like this and then just ensures that it looks a little bit more realistic I guess let’s go that down and I’m going to have to move that one over a little bit as well and because we’ve got keyframes I’m actually gonna have to edit it go into edit mode and do that otherwise it’s just going to change whenever I change a frame or whatever all right and I’ll scale this lime up as well it should be the last one you want make sure that it’s not too big so you want to kind of get like a mix between you know a few bubbles on the outside is okay but you don’t want it to be too much so something like that should be fine so I’ll just give this another render right now and let’s see how that looks okay so there you go so as you can see that’s looking a lot nicer the the fluid is where it should be you’ve got a few little bubbles on the outside there but that’s that’s fine that sort of adds to the effect there so it looks quite nice and now there’s only one more thing to do and then is we’re going to be adding in some fake bubbles now the reason that we’re going to be adding in some fake bubbles is because currently yeah there aren’t that many bubbles so if you have a look at a real fruit splash photo these are some photos that I pulled off Flickr under the Creative Commons license for some copyright there you go if you have a look at some real photos right here you can see that there are a lot of little tiny little bubbles so other than I like tiny little specks but they’re still there because obviously when something splashes into the water kicks

up a lot of these bubbles and if you wanted to create you know that level of of bubbles in blender you would have to turn up the fluid resolution to a really insanely high amount and even then I’m still not sure that you’d get that amount of bubbles so the easiest and quickest way around that is to use a particle system to create particles coming off it and then create little tiny spheres to those particles and then render that basically and it’ll look obviously it looks a lot nicer so I’m just going to go to this layer to here just focusing on the fruit this is really super easy just add a particle system right here you want to set the start and the end frame to be something suitable so the end frame is obviously 25 and the start frame should be the frame in which the fruit enters the enters the the fluid so if I just circle through this it’s about frame 10 so I’m just going to set the start frame to be 10 so that’s when the particles are going to start generating like that there you go so it’s so yeah it’s sort of raining down it doesn’t look good at all so the next step is to change the field weights I’m going to turn the gravity of that all the way down to zero something I don’t usually do and I’m going to set the normal amount of that to be 0.1 and the random amount for that to be 0.5 and be browning an amount point one so that it kind of disperses a little bit as well and now when you render that you should get that effect there I think the random amount is too much actually so that’s point three let’s try that again I mean it’s a still frame anyway so it’s not really going to matter all that much if it yeah if the particles are moving too fast because it’s not obviously it’s not going to be visible in a still frame also you’ve got some particles that are outside of the water there that’s okay it doesn’t matter that much because it’s not really going to be that that visible because you’ve got a lot of splashing and stuff going up there anyway so you’re not going to be able to see those particles anyway now I’m actually going to set the amount of these particles to be let’s go for something a little bit higher I’ll go for 3000 I think originally for my final image I used 1000 but then I realized they weren’t enough bubbles and didn’t look realistic enough so I went into Photoshop when I duplicated groups of bubbles and then I started duplicating them and placing them around to essentially fake the look of more particles so learning from my mistake turn that up to be 3000 and now we’ll go with that okay cool so obviously if we would have rendered that you wouldn’t see hardly hardly anything oh go ahead I’ll just add these particles to these ones right here as well give this particle name let’s call it bubbles do this one here as well and there you go one cool thing you might have noticed is that the the particle colors match the fruit because of the materials something I guess a new feature in blender is the particles change color I don’t know I thought was kind of cool anyway just noticed it okay so we obviously want these to be rendered as tiny little bubbles so the way we do that is we need to create physical spheres for that to happen so I’m going to go to a new layer completely new layer and I’m going to add in a UV sphere and you want to turn down the number of these these segments and stuff so that it’s a lot smaller than it currently is so I think segments of eight and six will make it low-poly enough that it’s still a smooth looking bubble whilst still you know being low poly then I’m also going to move that up to that so that it is that base origin right there and then I’m going to rotate that by 90 degrees the reason for that is we’re going to be creating a separate particle system soon it’s going to be using the particle type of hair so that’s why we’re doing that anyway okay so we’ve got that like that and we want to actually create some variations of this bubble so I’m just going to set that to smooth I’m going to duplicate this and now for this separate this variation bubble because again having a look at those you know these bubbles right here you can see some of them are like different shapes they’re kind of like oval-shaped and like jellyfish shaped or whatever I don’t know if that helps jellyfish I don’t know what image that brings to mind but anyway so I’m just going to go into proportional editing mode here I’m just going to create one of those kind of jellybeans that’s a better word for it jelly bean shaped bubble just like that and that’s going to make it look a little bit cooler and then i duplicate both of those and create some smaller ones now for these ones here I’m going to call this one here big one and then this one I’m going to call this big too I’m not going to bother renaming those because I’ll just show you why I did this by the way if we go to this layer right here I’m going to go down underneath where it says render I’m going to change the type to B group and then I’m going to select o have to set them as a group first okay so select all of those hit ctrl G then in the side bar here I’m going to set that group name to be bubbles okay

all right Renda okay now I’m going to set that to be bubbles like so now I’m going to turn down the size amount here to be let’s go point zero seven something like that should be fine okay point zero zero seven there we go like that and then I turn the randomize size to be all the way up to one as well and you can see those bubbles are now looking quite cool now I’m going to create a separate particle system and the reason for this is that I want there to be some bubbles that are stuck to the outside so currently they there are a lot of bubbles and they look like they’re stuck to it but I want to create a few more so I’m creating a separate particle system right here and it ain’t the type to be hair like that set the type of render type to be group again selecting bubbles and then I’m going to turn that size amount down to be point zero seven like so turn that random eye size up as well and I think I’m gonna have to make that even smaller actually no that’s right ah so the reason that I renamed those bubbles before gays in different names is I’m going to check use count and the reason for this is so that we can now make it so the smaller bubbles appear a lot more than the bigger ones because you want there to be big ones but you don’t want them to bear to be too many of them so I’m going to increase the amount of these smaller bubbles to be fifty like that and then that will ensure that there are a lot more smaller bubbles than there are bigger ones obviously okay cool so I’m just going to turn let’s go the render type turn the size of that down because I think that’s way too much as well okay a little bit more just like that and if you wanted to you could also paint on if you went into like control tab you can sort of paint on here which parts of it if you want to like just the under part of it to have the bubbles and you can just sort of paint like that and then go down to the vertex groups and then select group also setting the let’s click advanced then go random distribution there you go and then you’ve got you’ve got the bubbles appearing where they should I guess but you don’t have to do that so I’m just going to do the exact same thing I did for that one so I’ll just call this bubble bubble static there we go okay so there we go and then this final one here as well bubble static just like so okay cool so now I’m just going to go ahead give this a render with the fluid everything else is in place you’ve got the lighting you’ve got everything else the way it should be so now we give this a render it should be ready to go let’s see okay so there’s one more thing you can see those bubbles are showing up but they’re showing up as like hard clay looking objects the reason for that is we forgot to give or I forgot to give them a material so just going to give it a material let’s give it glass and then I’ll set that to be 1.33 and make sure all of them have the exact same material so I’m going to hit control l then control and select materials okay and I can call that material type barbels okay all right let’s give that another render now see how that looks all right and there we go so that just about sums up the tutorial you’ve now got the completed scene you’ve got some nice splash effects you’ve got some bubbles it’s a little bit noisy I only let it render for about three minutes but obviously the longer you let it render the better it’s going to look also of course the fluid that I used here to save time just for this tutorial I only set the resolution to be 115 for my final image I used 245 which is why the fluid looks a lot more clearer and cleaner here and overall looks a lot better but that’s essentially it guys so I’m really looking forward to seeing the results that you guys create so maybe some of you guys can create some different types of fruit splashes maybe some pineapples or some bananas or other cool stuff like that whatever you do if you do something cool make sure to send me a link I put it in the comment section below I love seeing what you guys create with the tutorials but other than that that’s pretty much it you can see here I added in some extra just a few little extra lens imperfections so I added some like hair and stuff like that on the lens just in Photoshop I just used the little paint tool and stuff like that just little tiny things like that to try and make it look more photorealistic but that just about sums it up guys so once again thanks very much for watching and I will see you next time


Blender 3d: Boltzn3ch: Speed Hardsurface Model And Texture (Part 2)

and now beginning segment two masters neon here so this is the continuation of part one I was modeling I’ll do a little bit more modeling and then I’ll jump on over to texturing so right here I’m just trying to make like a wing I decided to maybe add on a little bit more to it just to have more stuff to mess with so instead extrude delete the instead and that gives me an offset dragon in a plane added on some circular decal for ink wrapping it to fit exactly on to the plane it really there’s not a lot to this it’s just basic modeling extruding scaling right here try to flat out the face and there we go we got some sort of Wayne now I’ve built the smaller portion of that we’ll just merge that bring it out separate it scale it to fit maybe put a bevel on top and these are just same kind of wings you see popular and like manga manga concept me manga mechs just you know with the little modules on the wings that dictate the direction of the thrust you know all that cool stuff plus mirrors mirror on the cube apply the location I mean the rotation so it mayor’s correctly and now from here I can just rotate it to fit and get to fit however it’s supposed to so for something like this it wasn’t part of the original idea but who knows maybe I’ll keep it maybe I’ll try it out that’s all this is especially for concept nyet blender is just trying it out but the important thing is with assets like this like little things that you build knickknacks you probably want to hold on to it or something so you don’t have to model it again or you could try it somewhere else where it may fit better who knows it all depends on your workflow in a way that you go about these things so I think right here I’m beginning to make sure everything is has a subdivision level of at least one it’s in that way the viewports not completely lacked up with everything being so heavily modified it quelled around this and that and what am I making here yes the back module to hold the weight start off with a simple sphere it’s going to be subdivided a large amount of time so might as well just keep it six instead of eight that way whatever its / – it’s just 24 instead of 48 like it usually would just killing the piece make it fit scale on

the Z to make it wider and just plug that in and so I’m gonna have to make some modifications to the cloth to make it fit correct around it but it’s actually no worries we’ve got my 10 tools pinned and it’s built that way but who knows who’s looking at the back I am so that’s why I closed the array all right so as you can see still the same old tricks as last video ho I’ve just subdivided and setting I decided at the last minute I wanted to add a panel right here to be underneath it not too thick by just using all of us I’m able to scale it to at least be above the surface at a sitting on it which is good because otherwise it would have been partially clipped inside of the mash had a little extrude on the outer edges just for no reason and I still get this ring might as well just add another one down here can’t have too many ropes I mean can’t have too many cables surrounding it rewrapping it added another circle extrude it up at a subdivision we control one now I’m just gonna create a little pull to just go in the middle of this little I’ll call it a drag modulator there’s no name for it like I said it’s just a random piece I decided to just add kinda at the last minute to make it look like a I don’t know robotic angel who knows no render for a moment however with these textures it is looking rather bland so let’s get to work and tightening it up I just used the

inset to do so however for stuff like this you would also you know just add double edge loops but you know using in said it’s like adding two loops on both sides which is something you’d be doing if you were trying to tighten up the form anyways so keep that in mind and just make sure that you’re pressing that I key all the time if it’s a vulture used to just like good you know control B for bevel just playing around with that tool I was goofing off with making some rocks the other day and found that it has gotten pretty good now compared to the way it used to be so I added another cog so divisions are a bit high I could see that even from here looks like 32 around the inside let’s kill it so it looks like there’s teeth and all we’re doing is just create some wills and use that turntable rotation to try to get these things organized looking decent and the view is quite a pain hence my mention in the previous videos about you know keeping that local rotation as long as you can I realize that there’s some mirrors that just need to be applied and you know maybe if I had a couple more tubes I can connect that to that you know make more sense except that being so off does it make any sense so I just straighten it all back up skeleton the wide subdivide smooth and by setting the 3d cursor what period to mean by setting the rotation point or the median point to the 3d cursor so I’m able to rotate in place instead of by its origin point so these are all useful shortcuts that you know you should know by now so now I’m just making sure I grabbed all the components of the helmet – the trim of course oh sorry hold something I’ll just jam it out to Deftones all right so you know right here I’m actually just taking all the small parts and UV unwrapping them so this part is kind of a pain you’ve been rapping complex objects to something at me and my roommate’s are always discussing complex objects can be quite a pain makes you just want to slap some generic textures on it in a lot of the 3d magazines I read they always talk about how they just use cue projected textures and then they just use a clever array of stencils and just overlay methods to get it all to look convincing and you know that would work if this was you know building or a rock or something insignificant but this is actually the star character so of course we need some dedicated to UVs and decent UV is and decent UVs I don’t make here so I went ahead and used a smart UV project on that piece to just get it to unwrap and it worked out smart you feat protect here I just want to make sure everything gets some amount of space this part looks horrible so I had a cut I mean add a slice there I had a seam there I mean yeah add a seam now we got that unwrapped so for it hat me for the helmet itself how to unwrap that we’ll dice it down the middle I guess the most important thing about UVs is at least making sure it if you’re

using this method that I’m using of just smart UV protect and you know you want to at least make sure that you’re giving the right amount of volume of your texture map to the prominent stuff like the helmet you see it’s underneath all these dingo and go knickknacks so you know it’s not going to need such a large dominating area of the whole map you know right they’re almost deleted half of it because you can do the lazy way of texturing about texture in half but if I do that then it’ll be a symmetrical looking model and even the texture looks symmetrical and that’s where stuff takes away to personal touch I think of making a model is when you try to take the shortcuts because if you take a shortcut people see it if you let a rock texture stretch you know a 3d person’s gonna see it and be like you know with that rock or you know if you just decide to use one low poly rock brick texture on a wall you know you notice that stuff and so you don’t want to cut those kind of corners your cell and so with that I’m just killing up UVs making them fit I make a couple of mistakes through to UV process but they’re easily corrected just by painting it but now all of that spin so the helmet has its own UV and of course 2048 since I used smart UV project you wouldn’t want to use 1024 1024 on a smart UV project this complex because it wouldn’t give any real pixel room for any of the stuff to have any complexity so I found the 2048 is the minimal to get decent results and plus I use CG textures as well to just kind of add some variety to the textures I used as well so that kind of adds to it so right here I create a shadeless material an able vertex paint and I just make a cavity material I went in the vertex mode and chose to dirty two vertex colors after dirty in the vertex I had a cavity map or a cavity polypaint job done and with that polypaint i actually baked it to the UV texture but it takes forever look at this is baking eternally long enough for me to sit here and explain y’all all the stuff that happened in a blink of an eye but basically you want to duplicate the object apply all the subdivisions bake the dirty vertex and then make that out as a map so that way you have just two cavities has a another level of control that you have towards making your Maps more personal because I could slap this with metal and call it a day I could slap it with some CG textures painted wall or something call it a day but it wouldn’t be a day it’d be a day of a new bit look horrible but by at least multiplying by ambient occlusion map on it or my cavity map because the AO bakes kind of bad as you’ll see right here it actually is baking horribly that looks horrible but you know that might work so I actually decided to keep it to try it out is that zoom did all those really black areas are just areas that are actually covered up and maybe using a color ramp I can pull those values towards ranges that are more workable but that’s just my thought when I’m seeing something like that I see ranges you know it looks really black really really black really gray not much use but you put in a color ramp you can choose on one end if you want that black to be black and if you want that other end to be white or if you want it to be that same gray and then pull those levels to clamp it and get it to be exactly on the edges or exactly on the holes but that’s my mini rant I guess on it’s just text Tran so right here I create a bunch of shadeless materials s1 through s4 all of them are shade list they have no specularity and i just apply it to just certain edges little accents no rings here and there and this is one of my favorite parts however depending on how you get it to look it could either look like a hell or you can make your character look like a police officer or an emergency medical specialist which you’ll see what I mean once I come out of it look it starting to look kinda like EMS or at least that’s how it looked to me but basically as you see my texturing process involves me baking the cavity map which is done by duplicating to mash applying the subdivisions and set vertex colors and then just going to bake a full render if you bake a full render with shadeless cavity you only get the cavity map with no lighting information and that’s what

you want you want just the information of the cavity not nothing to do with the lighting because the lighting is subject to change you could rotate light the character could move his head move anything but you know I’m just ranting but you know it’s been a while since I talked to one of these videos and you know beats silence so more isolations colorization I realized that one half of the head looks very much more complex and other half of the head but I’ll take care of that just in the very end it’s lonely without those little pads happening alright so now I’m baking out the shadeless texture map for this one it’s for some reason bakes out all the white and then it makes a lude and bakes out all the orange so I was actually looking at the stake in that this may tell me something more about the blender internal render engine and how it works that maybe it bakes it on a per material bassist and modulates it all together at the end which then gives me a flashback to some time I ever heard saying that it does modulate all the materials and in compositing together on a per material basis but that goes in a little more deeper to I guess how render engines work so as you can see the little insects on the top did not get UV coordinates this is one mistakes I was talking about because I made a mistake with that that doesn’t actually get any advanced colorization or any advanced texturing to it so that’s something I could attach and make a separate object later on or I can just live with it however for this piece I decided that I’m just going to give it a really small color map and so I just inserted in the space make it fit alright so baking it out again and I’ll have this little color area so hopefully that’s enough space for me to get the point across but the colorization not look too chagi which is why you would want to give the prominent features a ample amount of size in the UV space but as you can see it looks like it came out fairly decent so i just save all of these whenever it comes to whenever it comes to dealing with the engine in a way that it handles the textures that you baked you want to make sure that when you add because I’m using the same UV map space helmet UV helmet Tut UV I baked a cavity is there saved it as an image baked a shadeless material there save that as an image because when I signed something back test but it’s gonna be some random space it might even revert back to the UV grid so the little textures that you make up just know that there’s some sort of placeholders or something I wish I explained a little bit better than that but I’ve lost my fair share of textures just messing around with it so I got the helmet isolated rendering while I set up the material for it and maybe lower my threads so the computer isn’t raped turn on these options these options don’t help very much at all as you can see now after turning on the use natural shifts is taking an incredibly long time for me to just see my geometry for the render might as well save it because that’s the first step before it crashes is strange and is happening and then right here I realize I could set up drivers on the threads of my processors if I’d want a driver to animate that value so I load up my images and the UV imitator and and dropped him on to the I dropped him on to the node editor where they’re they become image texture nodes that I began dropping them so I used the emission to see what it is I’m messing with in real time kind of like the previews fair if you were you know if the preview sphere if you were in internal so right here I’m just using a color ramp to make the facing value strictly edging and so I

applied it glossy color colorization to the diffuse color as they shown and then use the make shader as a mediator between the two so I just play with the values I get something looks right one of my favorite nodes is the layer weight which is similar to how I mess with normals in the compositing stages however this one’s a lot simpler and as you can see I was able to just hook up the layer weight to a color ramp so I bring back out in a mission I take a look at this other material and it looks the cavity looks like that so throw in a color ramp as you can see the black area is where it Feld in an area and I just clamped the values till I get chesty edges or you know just what I want so my goal here is to make take what’s black and make what’s black only scratches or splatter or take what’s white and make that only scratched paint or splatter so you see the the workflow for it is pretty pretty straightforward for something like this I’ve always had an obsession I guess with the materials of scratch paint stuff like that because you can make stuff shiny all day pull up the you know an internal just make a ward I associate or crank up the hardness and turn on mirror and you got metal but when it comes to making dirty metal it looks more beautiful to the eye or at least to me it does it shows more complexity more life to it that has been used but I guess that’s one of the things that happens as a 3d person so I’m on CG textures I’m just downloading particular pictures and just dropping them in my text tutorial textures directory and then from here I’ll go ahead and drop that in as well and let’s see what we got so I connect that up and it looks alright and so I used a color ramp to begin clamping to values because I’m only in blacks and whites right now because I’m making mass so it doesn’t even matter what it’s a picture of and now you use a multiply multiply the first mask and second mask and what do I get I get that now that is where just Blatter is going to be hit so we bring in another mix shader’ because now we got to make something else in there to be the splat with the splat so we’re all splatting so for diffuse map Mina for displacement maps I’m not an authority on it but let me tell you this basic psychology that I use when I make my displacement maps using this method here so – psychology or at least a psychology I tell myself of displacement maps is middle gray 50% gray does nothing white raises black lowers so what I want to do is color wrap my splatter layer to be mid gray pretty everywhere that’s white and then be white or darker gray for everywhere that’s the opposite and then flip-flop until they flip so right here you see another this placement that is offset in from the surface pretty nice and so we just add that in and what do we get when we change this to render no sorry so for the rendering you have to give it a moment before it shows you exactly how much the displacement is affecting it which kind of drives me a little crazy this particular tutorial is for a contest which if I win you win which means that you win me coming back talking about cycles a lot more with a much better card because all the bought a graphics card which I desperately need because right now I’m running AMD and while I don’t really care about graphics cards I do care about the blender running the best it possibly can and it’s not running well I’m using an i-5 in my computer struggles I mean I kind of kill it I am running a lot of applications at our back and you know

I’m rendering videos at the same time that I’m rendering a render in the render so you know these kind of things are taxing the resources on the computer I mean I could go under sampling options and lower down the bounces which they’re already at – so that’s horrible right there but you know in the end we’ll clamp those back up and see what we come up with now as you can see the paint splatters actually looking pretty nice if I wanted to fine-tune it I would somehow use the internal series to make a texture of this bake it to a map then use texture painting to adjust where the splatters are going which is what we probably want to do in the end I’m really digging the black that you see on the inside of that particular panel that’s facing us but if you look on the circle on the edge though it actually looks horrible this largest circle that’s over in the back of the helmet it’s not bringing a dirt texture and I would decide that I’m gonna try to texture up the dirt but first I need to scale the texture well that nodes not going to do it so I import a texture coordinate so I can plug up you fee to a mapping and then after plug it and then face it that changes that automatically connects it as generated won’t do cut connect UV that looks a little better looks like it’s made of sand and that looks worse as you can see because the uneven size of the texture coordinates in the coordinate space that the texture looks strange it it just looks stretched in some places as you can see right here I mean if I wanted the dirt to work right here I probably could have made it work I could have scaled the texture I could have also made that there also assists with the deformation on the displacement but instead I realized that I don’t want it to be splattered with dirt in the concept it wasn’t dirt it was just paint but a glossy shader to sharpen a background that’s bleeding over from the layer weight as you can see is was looking fairly good in the render now in the end I believe well like I said use the light box to light the scene because as a blender user the best thing about our community is the amount of stuff that is shared and given out which means that materials something that doesn’t have to be a mystery because you can download all the materials that brilliant people make and tear them apart and you don’t have to figure out all the model and stuff because there’s brilliant people out there uploading brilliant models every day on blend swap that you’re able to disassemble yourself and figure out how they did it and this stuff is important it tells you a lot about blender a lot of my knowledge I get I mainly well I watch tutorials like it’s television but in addition to that I also disassemble quite a few plan files to study study the amassed errs there are some fantastic 100 users out there and they all share their files so I mean if you don’t know about blend swap definitely check it out and begin building yourself organized asset very of things that are useful like materials and just small doohickey so you can build a scene from scratch and not have to oh god I have to put in a ground and then I have to build a bench and then I have to build a streetlight and I think once I get over that particular part I’ll be cranking out stuff every day my goal is to be an animator I don’t know about you guys and so I went in texture painting on the UV I found out that there is no longer the option under image of the UV editor to go on an image painting now let’s say another option that you choose where in the same area where you choose to go under two masking to now paint on a UV which is kind of strange but whatever it’s just something you gotta remember I thought they took it out for the walk is for about two versions but they did it so this version I’m using here of blender is 2.65 however it is the latest version as built by the blender pillbot but strangely it doesn’t have cycles hair rendering which my older version of this did but I don’t like having to use like

three different versions of blender I like to stick with just one wish I had cycles hair because this person would have some hair maybe there’s not a whole lot exposed to put hair on and I know you don’t want me to you know make boob hair so right here I’m making a texture right I’m going on Google just looking at cloth you know I’m still a texture I’m just snip it borrow piece of it hey put on this shirt and I choose this one kind of a hideous texture retrospect but whatever it works so I was originally going to come in snip it select the square of it and then go in Photoshop and use a perspective warp to get it right but in the end I realized that too slap it on there does the job so go in my textures and this will be my cloth or fabric because you know for the shirt to look decent it can’t be you can’t just slap a velvet on it leave it and call it a day because will look bad I don’t know how to use develop it and not get it to look bad but I’m getting better every day so we make a new texture shirt now in this version you also see I got the cycles preview render on the left side is so awesome to have it except it’s as slow as the viewport when it comes to rendering the previews so I don’t get a whole lot of that enhance enhanced feedback then all you and video users get to get I know every time I render with cycles I complain about this but you know if you’re watching my videos you’re thinking about going into blender Nvidia just save yourself trouble don’t even bother waiting so I’m just gonna scale it scale the UV coordinates same way as before generated seems to work alright but I do see a little bit of stretching and once I go over to UV is it looks even worse I might go back to actually generate it there we go so UV unwrap it I get a proper unwrap and then right here just kill our values waiting for it to get less Brewery so I could see it better and we’ll add in a RGB curve RGB curve will allow me to change the color just go over to red just tilt the color it’s like when you still it’s like when you were kids and you’d still bike since very paint them so they wouldn’t recognize it you know go and change the color yellow was pretty ugly I was just judging the complexity of the fabric so of course I gotta try to make a displacement out of this I could go into crazy pump since I have it on the computer but that’s just another program to open and deal with and make like eight textures and deal with those and it’s just easier stick with the notes just make a specialized texture for justice one asset but believe me my new year’s resolution for this year is to make all my assets renew reusable so everything that I make has full intentions of being index later renamed properly and then set up in a way that I can grab from it in a future along with some way of knowing what’s in the file to get I think if I did that I could just really just slap together a whole block of buildings a street full of characters and throw a bunch of vehicles and just go from there but it has nothing to even do it we’re even looking at so let’s focus so we let this render for a minute so we can admire how nice the fabric looks I did make a displacement map out of it but most of the displacement is the shadowing that’s being leveled to be a depression so this isn’t necessarily the best way to go about making it render and having accurate displacement maps but just know that it’s the way that I went for mine and if you can get away with the then maybe you should try to get away with it now this part I hate whenever I look at the UV map in the viewport it shows me the the full aspect ratio of the UV map and that just makes me groan because I wish I could look at a textured view of cycles and it looked

similar to the render that I have set up and it looked nice but it doesn’t might get back to you on that in the future but just know that just rat and you know been in this 40 minutes been talking for a while now alright so I didn’t I’m not gonna go over the texture painting of the body in this because there’s nothing impressive I just simply front projected it and mapped into a reference image I had and then painted it and cloned it and then multiplied the cavity on it and that was a call to today and that really is what I did so you know if you want me to if you want to see it just picture the armor but as a person so time to UV unwrap these shoulder pads and this little lifesaver can’t have a robot drowning they should circuit before drowning no and I’m pretty sure a hat would kill her anyways that is a pretty big character flaw how’d my character make it out of water well I’ll get back to you on that so I’d leave those interior phases that made it a lot easier to UV unwrap however the sighting since I cut it actually came out really ugly so I decided to not do that right here I also get to trimming and UV unwrapping now most of stuff I’m able to just unwrap since it since it doesn’t have the back faces it unwrapped very simply and so that’s the same kind of thing you’d be able to keep in mind if you were making a unified mesh just cut it where you think that you can get away with it where it just be dark edges and then whenever it comes to putting it all together maybe you don’t have to go back over your texture map and expand your pixels one or two pass their boundaries just so when you subdivide it actually looks correct so 2048 by something that didn’t look right will make another one and like I said keep in mind that the images that I’m making over here our placeholders so I’m just gonna bake stuff to it and then save them as real images but body med armor who knows what that picture actually is and that’s just something that you got to keep in mind cuz like I said you will lose images so I go over that every now and then just press f3 save it that’s something you might want to commit to memory f3 will save whatever image is in the image editor whether it’s a render or just a UV dirty – vertex colors now we’re cooking and right here I noticed that I’m into blender internal but it’s still showing me the cycles preview that may be a glitch of the program but I see a time but it does correct itself so baking the textures bake bake bake sit sit sit so this part takes a while I think it’s because I actually have environment lighting and ambient occlusion turned on from cycle settings that switched over back to blender render because with this process also experimented with jumping back and forth between the internal and cycles like I do cycles to just do all the materials in that project itself but I jump over to the internal where I had a diffused texture that was overriding everything in the render settings and then from there I was able to well after having it override and the texture settings everything that rendered out came out diffused without me having actually changed materials so it allowed me to go to render easy however when I rendered in cycles I found out that the render layer still modifies it but it just gives it an ugly standard diffuse map since the blender internal doesn’t convert over unless you use notes and choose to so bake bake bake but it’s a nice bake however look at all that a news UV countryside I should have applied the mirror then unwrapped it then packed them then done this so I could have had a different on both sides but now this will be lacking unless I go in and just redo it spoiler alert I

don’t so continuing on so we got the cavity mat I think I take a break here to rant about something and then I’m back so for this part I try to make the ambient occlusion map and as you can see those stars and the galaxies in the back that’s not stars that’s the ambient occlusion trying to come through however I think I need to actually set up some lining on the scene or something so it doesn’t come out frank in fractions like it is like it comes out triangulated in pieces without anything truly showing and i think that’s because the ambient occlusion takes the lighting into account as well and just waiting on that in this video sped up by three times so keep in mind that this is this was taking a long time in fact look at it was taking a long time but the texturing as you can see is pretty fast once you get your workflow set up and you just do it all in a linear order and have your linear workflow it’s pretty straightforward but you can jump around as well like me I like to render render render look at a preview preview while I’m doing I’m trying to I’ve gotten better you know I don’t preview it as the cube anymore I’ll wait until it starts to look like something and my same process of giving it the SH or nope that was from the original no come on you’re doing it wrong I realized I’m doing it wrong I’m right here I switch hips s1 s2 s3 I don’t even need us for but I know I need to get on and give this the pulleys paint job blue and orange but yeah I don’t want to paint that thing get that thing out of here well add that that one’s low poly duplicated hide the one had the original underneath and just modify and bake off of this that way we’re not baking off of the original so that’s another thing is all the stuff that you seem to take a local mode I always duplicate it and hide the originals so that way the original just stays untainted and I’m just coming back to it with a bunch of textures that’s been baked from well-managed versions of it which are more high poly but you know I’m probably explained all this wrong select face and assign hold alt to select an edge loop press L to select a entire island that’s why I hide the pieces so I can just select islands but right here it’s really random and here we go with the complete paint job nope still got more work to do let’s get that out of here and bake him so for the texturing on the color I could have done it a ton of different ways I chose to stick with the edge loops because it gives me this particular look that I’m going for but I could have just as easily have been projecting from view painting from just exporting it out to photoshop and hinges having a fill so for the texture and I’m just choosing this way because of the end result that I’m going for but you know if I didn’t want to have stripes they had to follow the particular edge flow and was from just a particular view then yeah I’d want to export out the Photoshop and blender actually has some very good texture painting tools that make exporting to external image editors a snap in fact you just control out you go under image preferences and I believe under system you can set your image header to be their camp or Photoshop or my pain or CorelDraw or ac/dc or MS pain or whatever kids are using nowadays we go ahead and save that as a color and

let’s see what we got so I have the special viewport being this screen layout set up just to make cycles materials the same thing always clamping with the cavity I try to clamp in Photoshop in a and edges there’s more dialog boxes it’s easier just clamp it up in here you know sometimes I just open the compositor blender and I use it like in my own personal image editor start hitting it with curves and multiplies and Clair’s and just overlay and it add them on top of each other and it’s just something you never see like I never see anyone else composite their textures using the actual compositor by multiplying the skin on top of the epidermal and subdermal maps and stuff like that you know now in the video we’re just adding the various images clamping it making the cavity map effect II I guess the amount of gloss that comes over it try to position the camera don’t want to dominate a look but don’t want to Hey look at me kind of look my view put my viewport ends right short of the wing so I should just shift B and expand that but I probably don’t do it for a minute and this concludes part two so leaving the state render it will gradually look better and better because that’s how cycles works using an i-5 that process takes several Maps matches of halo sometimes a small pizza or a mill and some tea


How to Make a Scene Realistic in Blender: Part 3 – Materials and Texturing

hello this is Jonathan lamb Pell here with blender HD and welcome to the third part of my video tutorial series on how to make a scene realistic inside of blender so this picture shows where we left off last time we did the lighting and the detailing in the first two parts of the series and now we’re going to go over materials so I have the feeling that this is going to take a little bit longer maybe not as long as the last section but it will take a little bit so I’m just gonna go ahead and jump straight in so here we have our scene and we definitely need to add a material to everything and we need to add you know textures and all that stuff so I’m gonna be going through piece by piece and just kind of showing you at the different things that we can do with each object and what I like about the scene is each different piece presents different challenges that I can show you how to work through so let’s go ahead and get started up here there you have your layout options and I think I covered this in a quick tip this is like my first video and I have already setup a 1 for a layout for materials and this is really handy because I can use this window here as my preview window so I can be previewing this while I’m selecting or editing decks here and I have a timeline if I’m doing an animation I have my material options right here and also I had my note editing and so this is a really intuitive workflow just set up so that I can quickly access everything and it just works super well also by pressing the control right arrow I can get to my UV editing tools which is as you can see the next one the sequence it goes materials then editing and so I can just quickly jump between these two by pressing the control key and the areas so let’s go ahead and texture a couple things first so these textures I did grab off of CG textures except for a couple of them CG textures is just a extra website you do have to have a subscription but it is free and you get a certain in like Kota per week and it has a bunch of really really great textures a bunch of different categories and it’s super super helpful so I definitely recommend them for getting textures alright so as you’re going and choosing textures beforehand or whether you’re doing it on the fly you have to kind of think of what kind of scene you’re making for instance here we kind of have a rundown dirty kind of feel so I got kind of ground that is I’ll you know crack it looks grungy and it also has these cracks with dirt in it and I chose this for a specific reason and it’s because these cracks make it look like it’s possible that the grass can be sticking up out of it if this was just a flat concrete you know slab it would be kind of impossible to have those little grass shoots but since they have us all these cracks it looks a whole lot better and looks much more natural to have the grass sticking out and just kind of adds a lot more detail for the curb I’m going to be using this texture just kind of a regular cracked texture for the wall I’m going to be using this also kind of a grunge map and I like this down here because it kind of adds a little bit of a backdrop where it meets the floor with you know I can have some grunge build up and I chose a couple posters I think a couple of these I got off Google Images so I’m not 100% sure on the copyright on these which is always a bad idea but since this is just kind of a kind of going through they just seemed to fit be kind of grungy posters so it worked well also the sign I chose was also from CG textures and as you can tell us very grungy a lot of the signs there were very clean and actually the original sign that was on on the barrels here was you know flawlessly clean which would be impossible in real life so make sure that everything you do every texture you choose is you know based on what the scene is going to be about and it’ll make a whole lot more sense and it’ll just work out and they’ll complement each other and much better so let’s go ahead and do the wall texture first I think that’s a good simple place to start so one thing that I can do is I can when I select this wall I can press excuse me press numpad slash and what that does is put us into the local mode so such that as I now go in a preview I can preview it super fast I don’t have to worry about the other objects and I’m not distracted by anything else and I can work solely on that while in this window I see it within its context so that’s very very helpful so let’s go ahead and add a new material I’m gonna call this one wall pre creative I know

and when you’re making your materials especially in cycles you have to think of how objects interact with light so concrete wall isn’t very reflective it doesn’t refract light it’s not very you know velvety or whatever sometimes I would add a little bit of glossy too to my concrete I’ve done that in a few images but it’s just really subtle it helps it stand out a little bit by in this image since it’s just a flat wall let’s go with diffuse so I’m going to press shift a and add a texture and image texture and then I will just go ahead and open my texture that I have for the wall now it’s really difficult to choose which texture out of this kind of list you can’t really see what’s what but if you check this arrow especially if you’re badly named like these if you hit that icon there you can immediately pick out which one you want and open it up so now I can select the color socket and put it in there and you can see that this has already been previously UV mapped but we want to go ahead and tweak that because that’s not quite what we want so I can press control right arrow and bring me to my UV window remember that you probably don’t have that but I’ve set it up specifically for that and I have a video explaining how to do that if you want to see so I think this is already in local video yes it is and so from the side view I can press tab to go into edit mode select everything and actually I was testing this earlier so I’m just compress reset so you can see the whole process I can select the Wow okay you know what that’s awkward I jumped ahead of myself because I was I was testing that right before I started the video so there we go there that’s much better okay so let’s actually use the right object this time and the right texture alright so as you can see this is very very stretched it’s not quite the same as this obviously it doesn’t unwrap correctly and one of the reasons is that the scale isn’t applied so let’s go ahead and press ctrl-a and apply the scale and what that’ll do is it’ll just help us help it unwrap it a little bit better but even then it still kind of constrains it to this to this area and it doesn’t accurately represent the dimensions of this plane so I can just scale this on the Y either direction until it you know fits approximately I think that’s close enough and we also want to see this within the context because we want that little lip poking up just a bit and so I can either you know scale it however but I don’t want to stretch it too much so I can take this and just kind of grab it up and tell that little those little dirt spots are just barely peeking over the edge right there and I like that just like it is so if I press ctrl left arrow I can go back to this and you can see that now it’s correctly mapped but it looks very very flat and very very boring so we’re going to be adding some bump mapping and I found a good way to do this is to duplicate the texture first because what we want to use for a bump mapping is not the color data we want to use the non color data and I haven’t exactly figured out the specific differences between the two but I know that if you use non color data it just creates a better bump map so I can’t tell you exactly why that is but it’s tip and it is what it is so I’m going to go into vector and bump stick the color in the height because that’s what’s gonna determine how you know what spots are the hi pot pot sandwich spots a little low ones and stick the normal into this normal you can see that it doesn’t work if I put it in there in the displacement because you know these are both late labeled normal and have little blue dots so it’s just kind of a visual indicator that that’s where you need to stick it same thing with the color you can notice those are yellow and you stick it into the other color sockets so generally if there’s you know colored ones they always kind of go together so you can see immediately that it really helped make it a little bit more sharp I guess bring out some of the details you don’t want to make it too too much or else it’ll just kind of look start looking fake and not not too good so let’s leave that point one I think that worked very well so you know that was very very simple but I was a good place to start so let’s uh let’s go ahead and do the next object so I’m thinking now we should do the floor so I’m gonna select

that go into local view and you can see that we still have the grass and stuff showing up if your computer can’t really handle rendering that fast enough speed you can uncheck these and just kind of get rid of the particles but I’ll keep them for now because it might be handy when we’re texturing all right so now we have this and I’m going to make a new material and call this one the ground and just like the wall because it’s you know a very similar material I’m going to press a shift a sorry add in a texture image texture and asphalt damaged all right so I’m gonna plug that one right in and you can see this was apparently UV unwrapped beforehand by the author unplanned swap but that’s okay because we can go ahead and unwrap it ourselves so a good way to do this is just to press seven on your dumb pad and press five to go into orthographic view so it’s all flat and just pressed you and unwrap you can also press you and project from view when you’re in orthographic you like this and it’ll help give an accurate representation of the dimensions so that’s very nice and it’s also helpful if we have the right image selected okay so here we have it but I’m thinking since we have this kind of dirt build up along there and we also have some most of our plants back there it would make more sense that we have the dirt kind of towards the wall side of things so I’m just going to take the UVs here press R for rotate 180 degrees and that’s just going to put our dirt along the back wall which just really helps to make it more realistic because that’s where the grass is growing and you know just looks better so there we have our UV mapping very simple so far and since UV mapping is automatically applied to the image texture we don’t need to add a texture coordinate or anything so that’s that’s always nice and we can also go ahead and add our bump mapping now so I remember how we did that was vector and bump I duplicated this so I could use the non color data plug that in to the height and plug that into the normal and you can adjust the size but I found that point one works very very well almost all the time so I think that point one is perfect in in this case and one thing that we can do now is so that was kind of the bump for the small details excuse me for the little you have a little bumps on there but it doesn’t give us the the large crevices that would go there and I have already made a texture in that looks like this and this is going to serve two purposes and I’ll show you what those are but first of all I’m just I’m just going to jump into and show you how to make this so here we have our texture and conveniently the ground underneath is darker than the asphalt on top so since this is the case all we have to do is go into the color and threshold and it’s going to make a black and white image and these here control how you know bright or dark is it’s completely white and over what value it becomes dark so it’s completely black and white no gray tones or anything so I’m gonna move the black far enough away that we can have these solid you know stones and I move this far enough yeah I guess I don’t have to move that far nothing so that’s just gonna make it speckled and we don’t want that so I remove this so that we still have a little bit of white in here it might be a little bit speckled but mostly these are flat whites and this is very very dark blacks so that’s all that I did to get that texture so I’m gonna go ahead and load that in so using a texture and image texture open that up okay so I do not know if we can combine bump maps that’s I’m not sure if I can

do that but that’s okay because we can go ahead and plug this color in because we want it to apply to the whole material now we’re gonna be adding something in just a second as well but we can make that the one of the bump maps and to see it more clearly we can just take take those out so we see just the map and there is very little difference between the color and non color data but you can see it just makes a very simple not too detailed kind of map whereas even if it was bump mapping I don’t think it would make it that much difference so let me go ahead and try it just just to see it help if I put it into the right socket okay yeah you can see that the two outcomes are identical and neither of them look all that great let me go ahead and put these back but what it does is it just helps kind of pop out those stones from the background so that is it without that is it with and you know just it helps a little bit not a ton but it’s just a little extra things but also this is actually going to serve a secondary purpose not just that and what this is going to do is make it so we can have a little bit of water on the ground since I think this little spill here I don’t know what I think was a pile of trash in the original picture but I didn’t quite like that because there’s no way to texture a pile of trash and make it look good I’ve tried it many times and just it never ever ever works so I’m going to make this kind of a puddle and it makes sense to have kind of a rain or you know wet ground when there’s you know a lot of life growing growing up around it so just kind of make sense to have that sort of wet feel to it so then I can you know go ahead and add some water on the ground and to do that I’m going to add a shader and mixed shader and a glossy shader into then you’d say that I can take this color and just put it into the factor and it’s going to make only half of that only you know one part of that mask glossy and you can see that we need to switch these do want the underneath to be glossy but we don’t want it glossy all the way so what we can do hopefully this new tree won’t get too complicated or messy it’s not really complicated it’s just kind of messy I can go into the color and brightness contrast and just kind of lower the brightness so you can see if I put this at one it’s going to have horrible results apparently yeah so sometimes when you’re messing with brightness and contrast it really does screw with the whole image and I’m not sure why there’s not a clamp option because they’re really there really should be but a quick fix is just to use a mix with black and white and that’ll just clamp it automatically for you when you hit that clamp so looks like I did that backwards so we can just switch these two back and there we go and now when I lower the brightness it’s going to make it pretty much all all glossy and when I up the brightness that’s going to make none of it glossy so that means when I make lower this a little bit it’s going to make it a little bit glossy so that’s exactly what we want we don’t want it too glossy we just want it just a little bit and I think our roughness we want is about 0.05 fish so we can see the reflection of of some stuff but you know won’t be won’t be too crazy and it looks like we have a little bit too much bump going on here and since we don’t have a control like we do over in this bump we’re going to hear a

really easy thing to do is just add a color and hue saturation node and then we can just tweak the value and say set this to 0.25 and that’s really going to lower the amount of bump but still have it enough so it looks good so there we have it that’s starting to look a lot better it’s not perfect but we can come back and tweak it later if need be you can see that there’s a whole bunch of these kind of fireflies showing up and that happens a lot when you add glassy and glass and Aria what’s called refraction nodes and a way to fix all those you know bright spots coming up is going into the sampling nope the light paths and shading no caustics and it’ll clear those out so it won’t clear them out where they are legitimate like reflections but it won’t have any of the caustics showing up and excuse me there’s something in my throat again if you think they are too bright you can always use a clamp I almost always use a clamp of like four or something and just make sure that none of them are too bright because one time I had was kind of a side note but I had one pixel where I had a glare node and even though it was set to like a value of one for its for its value it glowed as bright as the Sun and it was the weirdest thing because it was one pixel so I don’t know use the clamp that’s that’s about it there all right so we can go ahead and move onto the next one if you know this is looking all right so we can hit slash to go to local view and just kind of view this with the wall and you will immediately notice something especially if I speed up the rendering by pressing shift B and dragging a box as this renders you’ll see that the floor is kind of a grayish color and this is kind of a tannish color and they do not match at all they don’t look similar and they just they don’t match they don’t look like they’ve been in the same area together it looks like I just took two completely different textures and put them together which is basically what I did but they don’t look like they go together so what I can do is first of all I just notice that I think this has a little bit too much bump so I’m just changed out to 0.075 there okay is I want to decide whether I want this to be kind of a little bit more beige color or I want it to be the more grayish you know what kind of feel I’m going for and I think for this looks like a post-apocalyptic scene or you know some ruins or something I think a nice gray wood would work very well so a really easy thing I can do to fix this is since this has a little bit too much of the beige inside of it I can go into the wall texture or wall color go to color RGB curves stick that in and then under the blue I can just move that up just a little bit to add more blues to compensate for the beige and immediately that’s looking a little bit more gray bump it up just a tad and there we go they now match so so far we’re off to a pretty good start since we decided that we want the ground to be a little bit wet let’s go ahead and make this a puddle so I’m gonna add a new material and just call this puddle and since we want to see the ground I’m not going to go into local view but I’m gonna press shift B and just concentrate my rendering there so it doesn’t waste any time and change this diffuse from that to glossy because we want our puddle to be reflective I don’t use the glass because I like to have a little bit more control over my materials so I mean you can use class if you want but you don’t necessarily need it in this case so I’m just going to use glossy and we do want it to be a little bit you know see-through so I’m going to add a mix node or mix shader’ and then add a transparent psdf and now we have it where it is half transparent and half glossy so that if you zoom in you can still see the stones underneath but it’s also reflective and it’s very

very subtle you can’t see the edge too well I mean you can a little bit but it’s not all that bad and it I think it really helps sell the image because you can see reflection maybe it’s a bit too much if you want to make it less reflective you can up this soap-like 0.75 or something I think that looks good and the roughness I want it to be a little bit more rough so I’m going to change that to 0.05 and what that does is just kind of blur blur the reflection a little bit and maybe that’s a bit much point Oh – there we go that looks good and now we have our nice puddle this is very very simple but we do have to pay close attention to what we’re doing and just kind of tweak it until it looks good and you know speaking of tweaks I think it could use a little bit more reflectivity so I know I just lowered it but I’m gonna go back to point and let’s try six because I want the the grass reflection to show up a little bit more maybe the original point five was perfect yeah let’s go with that I think that looks good and if you didn’t turn off caustics earlier now is where they’re going to really show up if I unchecked this now you’ll see that you have a whole lot some of those white dots kind of everywhere up there up there and it’s just gets really messy so I definitely recommend turning that on so with the puddle things like this is just meant to complement the image it’s not meant to you know stand out so just make it blend in with the environment make the transitions subtle same with the plants that I’m going to be working on you don’t want it each piece to like stand out you just want it to be you know just part of the environment you want it to add to it and not you know dominate the scene or anything make it too obvious so as a general rule when you’re doing things that are you know like this and more realistic try to go for subtle effects even if it’s the focus of the scene don’t add too much bump that sort of thing is just subtle is subtle is key subtle details are very very good and really add up to make the image overall look great so we can choose what we want to do next how about this baseboard right there so that looks good and I am kind of lazy so what I’m going to do is I’m just going to take these two faces the only ones we see and just press you and unwrap because we don’t see any of the other one so it doesn’t even matter really so not that I don’t think I’ve opened it yet okay I think we’re using that one and it won’t show up until we add it in our materials so I’m going to add a new material for this I call it base board even though it’s not even made out of a board I don’t really know what to call it maybe I could call it curb that sounds good and I’ll add that image texture I think it was that one plug that in and now it should show up in the textures so I can scale this up a little bit so the edges are you know just visible just outside and we don’t want this texture to be you know dominating at everything it’s just kind of a subtle nice little cracks it doesn’t have to be super detailed but it’s just helping sell the image overall so you can experiment on where you want the little cracks to be maybe something like that looks good and maybe it looks a little bit stretched too much so maybe I do want it to go like that it’s kind of play with it that looks good now if I go ahead and render that you can see that does look good but we do want to add some bump just for just for details sake c-vector bump and since this isn’t like a super important thing we can just use the color for that it’s not going to make a huge difference because it’s just a really subtle background object and even even that looks a little bit too much so I’m gonna set that 0.05 and that should be good

next you can see that it doesn’t match the wall on the floor that we have so I’m going to do the same thing as I did with the wall where I changed the color via the RGB curves with the blue just kind of get rid of those yellow hues just kind of make it more greyish so there we go a little bit less alright so so far our scene is looking pretty good I think we’ve made some some decent progress so let’s just keep going I think next we should focus on some of these these details down here so I’m going to now do the grass so I think the grass is on this thing so it’s nice to have separate layers open at the same time that’s really really handy so I can be rendering this layer and working on this one and it all just kind of works out so I’m gonna select that so it renders faster add a new material there and I’m gonna call this grass not wrasse grass there we go and I just kind of have a default set up I use for grass and things like like that like leaves and all that I explained it in my tutorial on Blender cookie of how to make a realistic park scene or grass scene something like that so go ahead and look that up if you want for more in depth on how to make nice grass but here I’ll just go over the basics I’m going to be using the diffuse oh come on shader mix shader’ I’m gonna be mixing this with some glossy then I’m gonna be mixing that with a little bit of translucent so we don’t want too much too much glossy maybe just point one I’ll set that to zero so we can actually look at this for now we don’t want it too reflective but a little a little bit reflective is always good so I think that looks perfect the diffuse we can make this a nice green mmm excuse me and the glossy we’re gonna leave white you can make it a little bit yellow if you want either way make this kind of a darker darker grass all right that looks okay and then we can just add a little bit of translucency and that’s pretty much all I’m going to do there so it’s not you know I didn’t go super in-depth but you can see that you know it looks it looks like grass we have the different you know aspects of it we have the diffuse color I wouldn’t make it too saturated that always looks funny now we had the diffuse which is the main color behind it the colossi which is the kind of reflective sheen that you see a lot of the times on grass one if we can see preview it up there not that well I don’t have the translucency which is kind of a sun shining through the backside of it and you know it just kind of works out well so that is our grass I’m just want to see what happens if I bump that up even more okay I’ll leave it like that I think that looks pretty good and now we’ll go ahead and mess with the sticks so these are really small objects you don’t really see these in any sort of detail so all I’m going to do is I’m going to make this diffuse a kind of a brownish dark brownish color but I do want some detail in there so I’m going to take a texture and I’m gonna go ahead and use a wave texture and then color mix RGB the first one is gonna be that brown color and then that’s also going to be that brown color but a little bit darker so I can mix that in as the factor and now we have a little bit of detail it doesn’t look all that great but you know just

that amount of difference when seen from farther away is going to is going to make the difference in your image because one just looks flat it looks silly but having just that little bit of that little bit of texture in there helps it you know just helps it look a little bit better so let’s go ahead and do the pine needles and actually I’m going to delete that material and I’m going to use the grass material hit that too and just call this needles but instead of using this exact same thing I’m gonna make it a little bit less translucent and I’m gonna make this color a lot darker so where’s a spot where there’s a lot of them maybe like right there so you can see that it’s not you know super obvious where they are but they do help just add a little bit more detail you know you could go ahead and add a lot more things like you know some trash or whatever and that would help even more but it’s it’s the little things the devil is in the details is definitely a true saying all right so I’m gonna call this one rocks or rock all right now it’s just diffuse but we can go ahead and do the same thing as we did with the sticks which is just at a mix RGB and our colors I think we’re gonna use a kind of a grey and a slightly more Brown grey so nothing crazy but then when we go and add a texture let’s use a noise texture let’s take the factor in there and since these are gonna be really small we’re gonna want to bump the scale up to or I don’t know we just we want the texture to actually show up on the rocks so I’m gonna render just that okay this is way too much detail so you can see yeah this close that bombing definitely looks bad okay so we have that you can barely see it but we can go and change the color brightness contrast and up the contrast just a little bit that looked good and now when we zoom out we can tell that it’s not quite a flat color but it’s you know just has a little bit of texture that helps so now that looks good and with the other rock I’m going to go ahead and copy that one hit it too and just kind of slightly change these colors maybe I want it more reddish I don’t know we could definitely go into a lot more detail with these but since they’re very very small and make up a very little portion of the image I’m not going to spend too much time worrying about something when we have more important details to cover and we don’t have that much time so I say we’ve covered all of this okay so let’s do the ivy next I guess / to go out of local view that’s way to change the scene for me when I hit slash it’s kind of funny alright one of the last few things is the ivy actually this is going to be really quick when I do this all this is going to be is a diffuse Darkrai shader me shader and I’m gonna add a glossy just to give it a little bit of a highlight and make it mostly diffuse so point two so it has a little bit of a highlight but it’s mostly black and that’s all I’m gonna do for that okay so now for the Ivy because everything else is looking fairly good hope not that there we go I’m going to see that’s weird it didn’t change it when I was local mode but now it does I’m gonna take this leaf and I’m gonna use the grass material make it a single

user and call it leaf hmm okay and I can see it looks a lot like the grass but there’s a few important differences that we’re going to make I’m gonna make the leaves a little bit darker just so they blend in a little bit more with the background and it’s also going to contrast the red of the barrels quite nicely the glossy is already set like pretty much how I want it but I’m going to make it a little bit more translucent and I’m gonna change the translucent to be a little bit more yellow so that’ll just help the overall tint and help those leaves to kind of blend together well so I think that looks good and I think that automatically applied it to these over there so let’s see how those are doing they look alright not I don’t know see these over here look pretty good but those don’t look quite so good maybe it’s a little bit too dark a lot of this is just tweaking work to be honest I don’t like this IV on this wall at all I think it has to do with the way the particles are facing it just doesn’t look this doesn’t look very real it’s probably my fault actually it is definitely my fault cause when he did it but it’s also kind of sticking away from the wall which is bothering me so you can see that a lot of these are just kind of sticking out of there so I’m gonna grab that ever so slightly I don’t know if that helped too much but oh well okay now I’m gonna go ahead and select that again move back to the first layer so I can work on the material add a little bit more glossy okay so that definitely isn’t perfect we could work on that some more I one thing I would avoid is using PNG textures instead of actual geometry because in cycles it renders way way way slower so I would recommend using actual materials like this instead of adding a image texture so next you obviously need to change these branches so IV branches and these since we’re hardly going to see them I’m just gonna make them a solid Brown and that’s gonna be good enough over here I’m gonna do the same thing having branches okay so we are almost done the posters I’m going to not do in this video tutorial because you do it literally exactly like I did the the wall and the and the floor so I’m gonna leave you to do that because I am confident that you can do something like that these I think are they what material are they let’s go and give them the Ivy material wait then what material is this leaf oh there we go okay so lastly we’re going to do the barrels and we’re going to texture them first so let’s give them a material and just gonna call them bare roll and an image texture so we can see it when we move to the next window out layout texture image texture open it up I chose this texture specifically because it is nice and long and can wrap around the barrel and it’s nice and grungy so exactly what we’re looking for and in this view I’m going to go into edit mode and you can see these UVs are all messed up and I can press actually what I’m going to do is I’m going to go into side of U and a really quick way to do this is since this is a cylindrical object I can just press u and cylinder projection and that

works perfectly except for one small place which I’ll show you in a sec middle painted there we go so I can select everything move it down there and scale it on the X so it looks a little bit better wrapped around there to minimize the stretching so you can see that looks good except for just on the top here which it looks a little bit stretched and what we can do to fix that it’s just to select these two things there those two there we go those two edge loops and take this line I’m selecting the rover i pressing alt and then clicking and then grab that on the why bring the down and that’s gonna fix your stretching yes there we go this I’m going to also add that material barrel and I guess we also have to uv-map it looks like it’s already done for us so that is very cool except for this is not UV mapped at all which we don’t even see that but just for sake of doing it I’m going to unwrap that and it’s not a perfect fit but because we don’t see it it’ll do fine okay so now we have the color applied and I’m going to go into local view again so we can see it a lot faster okay so started looking good we got to add some but mapping on those scratches so I’m gonna do the same thing as you did at the ground color non color data stick that in there and you can see that it’s going through your wrong way so I can negative 0.01 or o-5 so I don’t want too much and that’s just gonna help put those scratches there and it’ll help even more when I I use the shader mixed shader and mix it with some glossy and obviously we don’t want too much and does that seem just from the light or is that from the textures okay that’s just from the light okay that just looks really funny but that’s alright because in the scene it looks much better okay and the glossy we want it to be a little bit more shiny so let’s go with 0.01 and just kind of make it so we have mostly diffuse with just a little bit of that of that shininess in there and maybe even up the strength of this negative point one so we can see the reflectiveness with the shiny okay that looks good lastly I’m going to add the little decal and the way I’m going to do that is oh hold on do play at that image texture open up a new one and choose our decal make sure that’s the diffuse and we want to mix it with that based on the Alpha and you see that’s definitely not mapped how we want so I don’t want to repeat any I don’t know how I can get it to not do that but let’s go ahead and unwrap it so select everything with our acid sign there we just scale this up let’s select everything it’s time but we don’t want to how we don’t want to mess up that so actually sorry what I’m gonna go ahead and do is input texture coordinate if I wasn’t generated nope UV works best then I can change the mapping over here so you can see it’s stretched

a little bit along the x-axis so I can stretch it back like that that’s gonna help hmm what geez what did i do before oh okay this is what it was this is contra key okay so I’m gonna add a new UV map I’m gonna call this tikal there we go that’s better so now let’s see I want to make sure that one is selected so when I go ahead and unwrap this it’s going to be under the decal settings I want that positioned right there but I don’t want it to repeat so I think there’s an edit or an option here to not make it overlap but let me see here real quick ah shoot I know there’s something here so let me just pause the recording and I’ll come back in just a sec alright so I took a little bit of a break there but now I’m back and I figured it out what you have to do is use a like I was thinking another uv-map hit pass it through a mapping node and by these minimum and maximum it then constrains it to just that one so that is how you do it and that should be all for that it looks a little bit stretched in my opinion so I can scale that on the X and notice how that does not affect the UV map for this one so and we put in the decal map by adding in an actual attribute node which is just the input and then attribute and then we type the name of that UV map plug the vector into there and then keep going so that’s how it’s done and it works pretty well so there you have it I think that is everything is now fully textured and material that’s even a word except for the posters which I am very confident you can do by yourself so that is it for this tutorial I didn’t go to in depth but there was quite a lot to cover and I’m sure you can understand so one or just a couple things I want you to be aware of is as you’re choosing textures and stuff keep in mind the context at all times make sure that they match each other so they look good and complement each other and just make sure that the details are subtle you don’t want too much you know bump mapping out a little it’s gonna look bad or you don’t want too little just keep in mind the subtle things really help make the picture and that’s these posters that are sticking through the wall are looking very bad but anyway I’ll go ahead and fix that before I do the final rendering for the preview of the video but at this point I’m going to say thank you for watching I hope you learned something the next time I’m going to go through compositing rendering and then just finishing up giving up the few key points and summing up what we learned so that’s all for this tutorial I’ll see you next time and thanks for watching


Blender Intermediate UV Unwrapping Tutorial

Add seams all the way around it and now Check it out the final unwrap and There it is beautifully unwrapped mesh If you’ve ever played a video game or you’ve watched an animated movie then chances are you’ve already seen something That’s been Uv unwrapped because it’s required for nearly every textured 3D model It doesn’t matter if it’s a character or a house UV unwrapping is the step you do before you can apply an image texture to a model because it tells the software the position rotation and the scale of the texture on each face of the model the best way to visualize UV unwrapping is to imagine that your model is made out of paper and You are trying to lay it flat on a surface Without tearing it So in order to do that what you would have to do is you would have to make cuts in your mesh So that the different parts of the model could unfold without tearing so as an example with this cube here We know that looking from the top if we were to make three cuts along that top Lid there that lid could open and then if we were to make two further cuts then that whole section Could unfold and then if we were to just do two more cuts on the front then the entire thing Would be laid down flat now if you would have a look at that underneath that look there that image That is the UV image editor. That is what you’re looking at when you are seeing an unwrapped Mesh you’re looking at it. As if it was made of paper, and it’s laid flat and in fact if you were to basically Snapshot a texture on top of that so the text is stuck to the faces and then Reassembled it that is what UV unwrapping is is it’s putting the texture over those faces? That when you see it on the 3D model That’s where the texture appears And you’ll note also having a look at this that where there was a scene where there was a cut There’s a discontinuation of the texture Whereas where there was no cut you can see that the texture is continuous So for this reason the aim of the game when it comes to UV unwrapping is to generally you want to lay it flat with The least number of visible cuts possible so I mean there’s a few other There’s one exception to it which I’ll mention right at the end of this tutorial But that is generally the Aim 99% of the time so for this tutorial I’m going to be Uv unwrapping our famous Anvil here which if you haven’t got you can download the file in the youtube description And let’s get into it so first of all let’s try and give let’s just try and put an image texture on this anvil okay, so first of all let’s give it a Materials to start with and instead of a color for our diffuse channel. I’m going to use image texture It doesn’t matter which image texture you use. I’m just going to be using one off polygon I’ll put the link in the youtube description if you want, but it’s just this one It’s a white and brown looking patchy thing if it allow us to see you know how the texture looks on our model Which is all we want okay now. We’ve done that so how should it look right? Well, if if you had a model, that was Uv unwrap then you would see the texture on the model But clearly ours is not showing up and the reason for that of course is that it is looking for UV Information which currently does not exist, so if we were to split our view here And actually I can just shrink that cuz I don’t need that anymore or at least for the moment If we were to open up the UV image editor right here if you were to select your entire Machine edit mode if you had a mesh which had been UV unwrapped you would see Information here and by information, I’ll show you in a second But you would see it there so the fact that we don’t see anything We just see a blank grid that means that we haven’t you be unwrapped imesh yet, which is yeah true That’s why we’re doing it as a tutorial so let me show you the quickest and the easiest the laziest Way to UV unwrap something and that is to use first of all with everything selected if you were to hit u Which is U for unwrap out of all these options here if you were to click Smart UV project And then just click ok on these default settings you would get this so It’s UV unwrap the Mayor automatically and If we were to look at it in text view mode like that then you would see That the texture has been applied to our model. So you might be thinking well, that’s fantastic Why is there so much more left of this video all right? Why is it so long when clearly it looks perfect? Well it might look perfect at first, but actually if you were to zoom right in there You would see some problems the biggest one is right here Yeah on the base here. You can see what I mean, it looks like a glitch in the texture

But really that is because of that step that we just did When we hit you and we clicked Smart UV project we left it up to the computer We left up to blend I should say to to basically cut up our mess Which is really what UV unwrapping is? Inserting cuts into the mesh and then throwing those pieces of the mesh over here on the right hand side Doing that automatically, and it does an okay job, but you often see problems with it Which is why I generally never use this I mean, I don’t know if it’s something I don’t care about it’s Gonna be in the background I might use it just because it’s so quick to do but generally you always get a much better result when you manually Unwrap your mesh by hand which is what I’m gonna show you in a second. We are gonna disregard all of this I’ll just ignore it really because we are going to be doing it the manual way okay, so Yeah, imagine that the anvil is made out of paper right now And you have to lay it flat where are you Gonna put the cuts? and more so because you need to have cuts in it and whatever there’s a cut there’s going to be a Discontinuation of the texture so really you want to put the cuts where it makes sense? So you can imagine that you know this anvil here? We’re gonna be putting a texture on it like dirt or grunge It may be some scratches and some scrapes right well You know that looking at this if there was a scrape that was saying to go across here It wouldn’t make sense for the scrape to go around that 90-Degree Corner there okay, so it actually makes place It actually makes sense to have seams in your texture in certain places like on that there so that’s the easiest thing to start with let me just turn off this grease pencil tool here and actually I should turn on the Screen keys, tool there we go Okay, so let’s start by putting in some cuts So the way that you do a cut it there cold same So I’ll just call them seams is by first of all you select the edge by holding down alt and then clicking I on I’m in the wrong wrong Selection mode so holding down so clicking on the edge right there holding down alt as you click that I’ll select the whole Edge loop Then you hit control e This will bring up the edge selection here and then you want to click mark seam Okay, now when you do that when you have a look at it in wireframe mode you can see that It’s now red so that means it’s got a seam there So yeah, we just want to continue this for the rest of the model So just like I put one there I know that if there was a scrape it wouldn’t be going around that corner there So I’m gonna put another Seam right here control e Mark Seam all right and let’s just do the exact same thing for the other side mark seam Maxime Another really easy place where I know that there would be a seam is along the bottom here And it’s generally the easiest one for whatever model. You’re doing like if you’ve got a character You know that you can put a seam around the soles of the shoes Because there’s no way you would want to have a texture continue around That angle there right and also you’re not even gonna see it most of the time the camera is not going to be looking underneath this anvil So yeah, so we know we can put a seam there as well, so let’s just hit mark seam there Okay now if we were to UV unwrap this so before we selected everything we hit you and then we hit smart UV projects when you’re doing it this manual way Putting in the