– Welcome to the stage, our participants, the political stars of the future, the wings beneath the wind of democracy, starting with Adam Brand chair of the Princes Street branch of Young Labour (audience applauding) – Adam is studying engineering at the University of Auckland, and he prefers to commute on a vintage motorcycle, Phil Goff style Welcome Adam, let’s keep moving The Young Greens have a co-convenor model (audience applauding) And here they are Danielle Marks and Matariki Roche (audience applauding) Welcome, that’s them In a fluke of fate, the Greens not only have a co-leadership, but a cohabitation policy for the Young Greens this time Danielle (Te Arawa) is studying Law and Politics at Waikato Matariki (Ngāti Raukawa) is studying te reo at Waikato as well as working as a medical receptionist Welcome to you. The president of Young Act, aka Prebble’s Rebels is Felix Poole Come on in Felix (audience applauding) Felix is studying Law and Communications at the University of Auckland and his previous work experiences includes grimy tasks such as pumping petrol on the night shift and assisting David Seymour Welcome Felix (laughter) The chair of Young New Zealand First is Jay McLaren-Harris Here he is (audience applauding) Jay is Maniapoto He is an entrepreneur He is a motivational speaker We’re about to get the best of that And he works for the Moko Foundation, welcome Jay Finally, welcome to the stage Aryana Nafissi, the Northern Regional Chair of the Young Nats (audience applauding) Aryana is studying Law and Commerce at Auckland She has two chickens called Valentino and Dolce Neither can be with us tonight – they’re alive, they’re not dead, they’re just Enough of that, let’s get straight into it What we are gonna begin with is we’re going to ask each of our debaters to take 30 seconds I’m gonna ruthlessly enforce that 30 seconds But what we wanna hear is we want you to imagine that you have before you a sea of first time voters Undecided voters and your challenge is to convince them why they should not just vote, but vote for your party Do you wanna kick us off Adam? – Kia ora, everyone It’s a pleasure and a privilege to be with you tonight and especially a privilege to be gathered in public like this tonight And really the only reason we can be here tonight in this way is because the team of 5 million pulled together, did the mahi Now we’re here, but also from the leadership of Jacinda Ardern, she was able to steady the tiller, lead us through this crisis as she has done before, but we’re not out of it yet There’s more to go Let’s not stop now Let’s keep moving (audience applauding) – Danielle – Oh gosh, this is a hard one Kia ora, tēnā tātou katoa, e mihi ana ki a koutou katoa i tēnei wā o te tau – So the Young Greens and the Green Party of Aotearoa New Zealand are here first for people of New Zealand for tangata whenua We are the only party that actually acknowledges and upholds Te Tiriti o Waitangi And because of that, we are a party for the people and the planet and see the intrinsic beauty of both And that is why you should party vote Green (audience applauding) – Good start But so far leaving lots of seconds on the floor Can Felix nail the 30 seconds? Go – New Zealand lives on a pandemic planet But our geography offers us great advantages compared to continental countries People wanna come here And they wanna live They wanna spend and they wanna earn, but we can only take advantage of that, if we cut taxes, reform the RMA, put money into our border and pay down the debt Act is aspirational And we say that we can lead the country, not only in COVID response but COVID recovery (audience applauding) – Thank you Felix Jay, New Zealand First, go Tēnā rā koutou katoa, ngā mihi ki a koutou You know, I joined New Zealand First for one reason and one reason only Because I feel and I realised that the effects that were being made in Wellington were being felt all around our regions And dare I say, were being felt by our most vulnerable and I’ve experienced that firsthand I joined New Zealand First because we are a straight thinking, forward moving and dare I say it a party that is for all New Zealanders (bell ringing) You know, over the last We’ve backed our future so back your future. There you go – Well done Thank you very much Jay (audience applauding) To round us off, Aryana – Look, I think it’s really simple We’re facing the toughest economic and health crisis we ever have And we need a National government cause we’ve actually got a plan to get us through and we’ve got the competence too We wanna make sure you’ve all got jobs and make sure you
get the opportunities that you all deserve We’re aspirational for New Zealand and we’ve got a strong track record too We got through the global financial crisis We got through Christchurch earthquake and we’ll get through this too (audience applauding) – Great job, everyone Raise your hand if you want to become a member of parliament (audience laughing) Just wanna be clear that we are recording this (audience laughing) And if you don’t raise your hand and then you do become a Member of Parliament, you will have to resign immediately (audience laughing) – I think you can’t really say, like, right now, cause I’m not gonna make I don’t wanna become an MP tomorrow or this next couple of years, but in a couple of years, yeah, sure I’d love to Like say 10 years, but it depends on my family and if I think I’m actually the right fit to represent the community which becomes available – So you do wanna become an MP in 10 years – Yeah, but it’s not really Yes, I’d like to but whether or not I do will depend on not me, but the communities, etc – Okay, Jay – Oh no look I don’t wanna say yes and then I don’t and I don’t want to set that expectation for our rangatahi who say they are, but then don’t So I’m here to say, look, every opportunity is possible if you put your mind to it – Felix I have a feeling you might say in one of the episodes that you don’t wanna be an MP – I’m afraid of aeroplanes And you know, as I understand it, when you become a member of parliament, you lose a lot of privacy and I value that privacy a lot So – So privacy and aeroplanes are the reasons – Yeah exactly, two very strange reasons I know – No, it’s good, it’s compelling Matariki – I’ve got a long list of reasons – Let’s have two of them (audience laughing) – Okay, well, firstly parliament is a Westminster colonial structure And I think that the, yeah, thank you The mahi that we’re doing within the Young Greens is pushing from within, without having to, you know, like really be bound by that Also the theory of change, you know, I think that, you know, we’re a flax roots movement, the Green Party, and that’s where I wanna be That’s where I see the most inspiring people That’s where I see real change And that’s where I see the drive So that’s where I wanna be – Okay, all right (audience applauding) – Adam, you’re not on the list, but at the moment, Labour are polling so high that you might need to find yourself in parliament anyway – I mean, I can give two reasons as well And the first one is I don’t have Twitter Second one is, I’m not a lawyer That seems to be the main two credentials for being in parliament – That’s a really harsh critique of the Labour Party right there isn’t it? – Or maybe all the MPs really – That one’s definitely going in the story All right, I wanna ask you a very quick question and then a longer one, first of all, just cause I’m curious in the slogan last time round, you probably know, “Let’s do this” “Let’s do this” – what was “this”? I never really, (audience laughing) I wanna – You said a short question Do you want me to list it all out? It’s gonna take a little bit longer – I mean, what is it in a nutshell Is it transformational government? – Transformational government is doing things that were long overdue I mean just to pluck one off the top of my head is that removing abortion from the Crimes Act That was long overdue “Let’s do this.” It’s stuff like that, that was long overdue, but Labour had the courage to bring it to the table and said “Let’s do that now.” (audience applauding) – I wanna skip over to you Aryana, and start with a, with a general knowledge question It’s a bit of a tricky one To see how up to date you are with current affairs Who is the current leader of the National Party? (audience laughing) – I’m not sure… nah it’s Judith Collins We all know that – Judith Collins, OK Can you explain to us as best as you can, what the Judith Collins vision of New Zealand is? Is it more than four lane highways? (audience laughing) Well you know don’t put down the four lane highways When I was up in Northland people were loving it They’re like, “aw that four lane highway.” So, you know, we’re Jaffas So, you know– – For people who are looking for a vision, right? Like what is the, what is the vision? – I think the vision is like actually that infrastructure plan, it shows what Judith stands for It’s not building for today or tomorrow It’s building for generations to come So we’ve all got opportunities It’s forward thinking, how government should be – Jay, New Zealand First has achieved a lot in this term So why is it going so badly in the polls? Is it a failure of leadership or are the voters morons? – As Judith Collins would say, it’s rogue polls (audience laughing) No look, we are doing the best that we can You know, some of our ministers, our MPs are the hardest working members of parliament, you will ever meet Shane Jones worked every day for three months, every day for three months – Just three months?
(audience laughing) – Every day for three months and for three years, he’s doing it But no, look, we are, as we all know, the only polls that matter are the ones on election day and everybody, every election year says, “New Zealand First won’t get in.” “New Zealand First won’t hold the power.” But then all the time, but one we’ve gotten back into parliament and 2017, we held that power – Love it – Matariki, the Green caucus this time around, have they been too polite? I mean, I’m thinking for example of the line in the Confidence and Supply agreement which reads, “we will overhaul the welfare system.” And I don’t think anyone could with a straight face, suggest the welfare system had been overhauled And Jay’s mates, if that’d happened to them, they would have been kicking and screaming about it What’s going on? Where are the radical roots? – I would love to see you say that to Jan Logie and Marama Davidson and Golriz Ghahraman’s face I would love to hear you say that (audience laughing) I don’t think we’ve ever had a problem with being too polite I think being in government is a new experience for us, as I mentioned before, parliament is a structure that should not belong in this country And there is a game that has to be played I don’t think we’re playing it And I’m really happy about that I think that, you know, there’s pretty feisty people within the caucus and I don’t think I would ever call them polite – Thank you (audience applauding) Felix, is the Act Party surge in the polls a result of pandering to the gun lobby or David Seymour’s dancing – No, no, absolutely not, and you know, I’d like to say, first of all, we’ve had two years of 1% polls and we never called any of those polls a rogue poll And ultimately I think the growth in the Act Party is because we are the real opposition We’ve been 119 to 1 on so many bills, on Zero Carbon and on guns And we think that people wanna vote for that People wanna see change and they wanna see change in this government – Your philosophy is about shrinking the state to the size of a prune – Absolutely – It’s a very attractive theory, right? – To some – But what we’ve seen very recently with the COVID crisis is the importance of a strong, capable government, right? And the bigger crisis, the climate crisis that is hurtling towards us requires strong, capable government Doesn’t it? – Absolutely And sometimes government is required. In a recession, you know, government does need to, to a certain extent enlarge itself and take out debt in order to support the economy But I think that having a, you know, a free market party critique at times, the government’s wasteful spending means that we do better in the long term And in a couple of years time, once we take out this debt, we’re gonna be spending more on interest than on education Partly because of these guys wasteful spending, when it comes to provincial growth fund and fees free The Act Party says that we need to end that wasteful spending, we need to make sure that we keep our government expenditure low so that we can maintain our core public services for the future Because if we don’t, all of that is gonna come under attack in a couple of years (audience applauding) – But you appreciate the climate, you think the climate crisis is real? – Absolutely And the Act party– – So you do need a strong government to tackle that going forward? – Well, not necessarily You can have private enterprise and innovation do that What the Act Party says is that we want GMO reform We want waste management reform We want RMA reform Because when you allow people to bring in new technology, sustainable technology, you get real change The Greens laugh there But the reality is, they’ve blocked GMO reform in this country for years and prevented us from adopting new sustainable technologies that reduce the methane output of cows And, you know, I think it’s appalling that they stand for the environment but they do that – Okay, thank you (audience applauding) Let’s go for, let’s go for a show of hands again Who of you believes that the prime minister should have visited Ihumātao in the last year (audience applauding) – Big, strong, waving hand here – I double hand that – Adam I’ll put this one to you cause it’s a complex one for you But the prime minister spoke at Waitangi in 2018 and challenged Māori to hold her to account on doing the right thing for tangata whenua Do you not think that symbolically it would have been important for Jacinda Ardern to have stepped foot at Ihumātao? – So, are you saying, what’s important – symbolic gestures, which might be important and might be well appropriate in due course or is it actually important that she got everyone around the table to have that discussion and not instead the government coming in and saying, what it’s gonna to be – [Audience Member] 400 houses! – What the thing about Ihumātao is is that there’s not one side on any issue, OK Mana whenua are on both sides of the issue It’s very complex The government can’t just come in there and say what the solution is gonna be It’s about letting mana whenua bring the solution together and supporting them in that process That’s what we have done
– Do you wanna come back on that Danielle? – As someone who occupied that whenua for a very long time And just, just for everyone to know it was 380 days right now that Jacinda Ardern said that she would go and hasn’t gone But, what are you saying? Mana whenua have presented it, they want their land back It’s as simple as that (audience applauding) What people tend to forget is the fact that she is an Arts and Cultural portfolio holder And she has the ability to give it under a cultural lens but she doesn’t want to do that And it’s very telling and mana whenua have been calling her out for so many years It didn’t just happen last year It goes back to the UN Pania has been there through and through, through every single mechanism and Jacinda doesn’t want to listen to her, so – Thank you Where do you stand on this one Jay? Winston Peters has been, is reportedly and by his own account, been trying to stop the deal going through that has been underway with various parties Where do you– – Oh, he hasn’t tried to stop it, no That’s absolutely incorrect– – That’s not right? I ask, you know, why don’t we send Grant Robertson there as the minister for finance, who has responsibility over that land? When we talk about our treaty partners, when we talk about Te Tiriti o Waitangi and every treaty settlement that has happened, you know, when we put our prime minister or the leader of our country that undermines every other treaty that we’ve gone through, and that we’ve succeeded You know, look at Ngāti Whātua who are still trying to set their settlement You look at Ngāi Tahu, who are doing absolutely amazing stuff Imagine if the prime minister set that precedence that every other treaty settlement could be undermined And I don’t think that’s correct No, not at all – We shouldn’t forget that on September 19, there are two other boxes for ticking And those are the referendums Who of you will be voting yes, in the referendum to legalise cannabis (audience murmuring) I’m gonna throw to you Aryana That’s interesting, because this is an issue that divides along different party lines – Yeah And firstly I do wanna point out this is, you know, there’s no strict party line This is my personal opinion I will be most probably voting against legalising it Just because I don’t think it’s, I think it’s a cop out solution You know, it’s been presented as a way to solve gangs, make it safer, etc It’s not going to eliminate the black market I have issues with commercialising weed And I also have issues around drug driving and also productivity Maybe in a few years after seeing how Canada’s taken it, sure, we should put it here, but not enough evidence And also I just really support medicinal use and there’s nothing against that – So that’s why National never did medicinal use? We’ve brought in medicinal cannabis We’ve brought in the misuse of drugs act and the point about this is– – Can I just tell you Doctor Shane Reti drafted something to make medicinal cannabis more accessible and who didn’t put that through? It’s you – Yeah, because it was full of holes, more so than Swiss cheese– – So why didn’t you make it better and put it through? – If you can regulate the content of THC to make it safe for consumption, if you can stop police resources being wasted on drug offences and onto actual problems in our society, better utilisation of state resources, wouldn’t you say Felix? – Exactly, completely behind you, completely behind you – I thought you care about mental health, too – So why are we locking people up? Is that gonna be better for mental health if we lock people up for drug offences, like cannabis? – No I’m talking about the effect, weed can have our mental health – Great effects – Obviously we’re trying to reduce harm Aryana (audience applauding) – Let’s go to Felix, you want to legalise everything (audience laughing) – Nangs, nangs – Young Act has a lot of disagreements with the main party and this is one of them It’s around drug policy we believe that we should legalise all drugs to a certain extent because we believe that ultimately the more you– – What do you mean to a certain extent? – Obviously you’ve gotta have constraints about the way it’s consumed So for example, when it comes to methamphetamine, that kind of thing, you can only consume that in labs, with a nurse looking over you to make sure it’s all okay But it’s still, you know, to an extent legalised and available for people But we think that if you really wanna follow a harm reduction approach, then drug legalisation is the only way to go Or Young Act thinks that, not Act Party, not Act Party policy – Jay, I’m curious to know why you won’t be voting yes? Isn’t it fair to say that the criminalisation of cannabis has led to disproportionate arrests and incarcerations of tangata whenua in New Zealand over the years? – You actually haven’t also asked who will be voting no and who would be voting, yes – OK– – I didn’t put my hand up because I’m not educated on this topic as much as other people are and we need to take educated approaches around these things So I’ve still got til September 19 to become educated – OK – To make these decisions
That’s why we’re sending it to referendum so that our whanau and our tamariki and our rangatahi have a future that they are educated on You know, if Felix over here wants to have a quick joint behind the curtains or we want go over here and do this that’s where we have to decide that the education no Felix, I’m talking– (crosstalk) – Stop hiding behind your lack of knowledge – Let him finish the point Felix, let him finish the point – Hang on a sec, hang on a sec No, absolutely not he cut me off so I’m gonna continue talking And this is the problem, right? We need to become educated before making decisions And I feel a lot of people are out there that are just doing it because it’s jumping on bandwagons, because it’s the thing to do We need to become educated, to make sure that we have a future– – I trust everyone in this room to make that decision And I think Jay is hiding behind the fact, you know, that he’s ‘not educated’ and doesn’t want to express an opinion on this I think we should express an opinion on this and New Zealand should be forward thinking on this issue – Well actually I didn’t even know the difference between legalisation and criminalisation so how can I be educated about that? – I suggest you all come to a Young Green event we we’re bringing people that – Oh where you’re bringing something around the circle? – Yeah (audience laughing) But if you want to actually be educated, then put yourself in those– – And I’ve got to September 19 to do that – Did you wanna finish that point Danielle, what’s the essence of your argument for legalising? – I mean, I agree with Jay that we do need to be educated on these things as it’s something that’s kind of brand new to some people and we need to allow for people to become educated So that’s why you should come to the Young Greens of Aotearoa Facebook page, where we hold Zuis [Zoom Hui] and we have all these beautiful images that we’ve worked with Like CAYAD, we’ve worked with a lot of tangata whenua groups here in Auckland to produce these images so that we are actually educated on these issues from a Māori perspective and not from other people – All right, Okay Thank you very much Let’s very quickly do the hand thing one more time on the assisted dying bill, raise your hand if you’ll be voting yes to for David Seymour’s bill on assisted dying There’s an unsure here There’s two there There’s an unsure there There’s Jay have you decided on this one or are you still– – Well, no, I haven’t become educated on that (audience laughing) Well, I’ve got till the 19th to do that And I think everybody in this country, every voter in this country has the right to become educated And for people to say stuff like that, are we belittling every other person out there that isn’t educated on it? This is the future This is the future of people’s lives And we need to become educated about it Not just jump on bandwagons because it’s the cool thing to do – Your party is a party of referendums, right? You love the referendums You wanna have referendums about whether we should have referendums Have you not yet as an educated, intelligent young man, educated yourself on these? – I’ve done some research, but I don’t feel I’m comfortable and confident enough to make that vote – All right, OK Thank you – I would just like to tautoko you Jay, because I think that’s a really brave thing to be able to say that you’re not educated enough on something, especially in a youth politics space And I really want to mihi to you on that – Ngā mihi, te na koutou katoa (audience applauding) – These beautiful scenes I love these beautiful scenes Can you guys have a beautiful scene as well with Aryana, who is someone who is, I think I’m right in saying, you’re committed to tackling the climate change crisis? – Yeah – Yeah? You guys are committed to tackling that. What about, why can’t the Greens change their approach so that a National Party / Green government is possible In the cause of the climate – So, you know, National doesn’t care about marginalised communities You know that? Like that’s something that (audience murmurs) We wanna help people out of poverty And National doesn’t, we’ve seen it in the past How many years they’ve been in parliament So there’s pretty fundamental issues there– – Can I just say, what’s the priority of the Green Party? Is it climate change or is it the social justice stuff? (audience murmuring) – You can’t separate them How can you have one without the other? (audience applauding) – Like I just think if someone really cared about the environment they’d put separate, like differences aside to reach for the best outcome I think what’s really sad actually is that Greens being sold out for the Kermadec Sanctuary to look after NZ First, to look after also– Are you glad that the Kermadec Sanctuary didn’t stand up? – I’ll be real with you and I’ll take a note from Jay I don’t know a whole heap about that specific issue and I’ll front that, I will – Can I just say something, you know, we’ve got the Young Nats and Young Act here laughing at every answer that some of our members give It’s hard to get up here and to debate things that we don’t know And to admit that we don’t know it, it takes big guts – It absolutely, it absolutely is Jay, but you know, you guys have been asked to come here on behalf of your youth wings On behalf of your party to express opinions And if your answer is I’m not educated,
I just actually don’t think that’s good enough, especially on things like euthanasia and you know, marijuana legalisation I think it’s been in the public arena for years And if you haven’t developed an opinion on that, I think it’s ridiculous if you claim to be some sort of representative – Well I’ve still got to September 19 to do that, right? I’ve still got to September 19 to become educated So there’s still time – All right – Become educated today – Felix, you just mentioned youth wings and you, on camera in one of the episodes, you say, “My opinion on youth wings in “general is they’re actually pretty toxic places.” What do you mean by that? – I absolutely do think they’re toxic places cause they, they end up being a place very much where politics interacts with youth And it’s a place where people, people don’t necessarily make good judgments I expressed that, you know, some months ago, I still believe that – You’ve had the misfortune to have a number of Young Act members who’ve resigned from the party over allegations around sexual harassment What would be your message to those former members? – Well, you know, we’re doing our due diligence The Act Party has engaged one of the most qualified lawyers who deals with this stuff in the country who has investigated the New Zealand Defence Force, investigated various workplaces And I won’t speak too much on it in detail until that investigation is over But we’re taking this very seriously Young Act as a result of those resignations is not embarking on activities it might otherwise have embarked on during the election We’re not holding many events We’re not being very active on social media We’re not actively being as, you know, campaigning as hard as we might have because we take this so seriously And ultimately you’ll see some changes in the coming months, but you know, we do take this seriously It’s a wider problem in youth politics We’ve seen it in the Young Labour, we’ve seen it in the Young Nats We’ve seen it in politics at large People who we expect to be more mature, engage in this activity and we do need to do better And Young Act will do better (audience applauding) – Aryana, you’re a Parliament TV fan You will have watched some of the valedictories, in the last couple of weeks Three of those were from senior liberal women in the National Party I’m thinking of Nikki Kaye Who’s been a bit of a mentor to you I think Paula Bennett and of course of Amy Adams And there are some concerns expressed from within the National Party even that the party is increasingly becoming in the grip of the conservative, religious conservatives Is that the kind of party you intend to be part of? – Look, I don’t think that that’s what the party is We’re a big tent and that’s why I’m so proud to be part of the party We like to have big discussions, etc And we welcome people from all walks of life So I don’t think that’s a fair comment If you hang out with Young Nats, we probably don’t agree on stuff. It’ll be quite easy to come up with something we don’t agree on because we’ve all got different backgrounds, different opinions, and that’s what’s coming through And I think you’ll see that is what’s gonna come through the party So I respect what they’ve got to say, but no, I’m positive, feeling good – Jay, I wanted to ask you about the Provincial Growth Fund just quickly because that’s a big deal for the New Zealand First party What are the success stories of the Provincial Growth Fund specifically that you see happening? – Well, you’ve got to look in Dargaville, you’ve got to look at Ruawai where they’re building infrastructure You’ve got to look at Gisborne and Tairāwhiti You look at Hamilton and Kirikiriroa We are investing $3 billion as part of our coalition government, with the Greens, into regions that were neglected for nine years by the last National-led government And that’s a fact We’re investing into education, we’re investing into transport, we’re investing into infrastructure This is where jobs are created This is where people are supported This is where people are educated into building a better future So we need to, like I said, investment, isn’t an expenditure It is an investment into the lives of everyday New Zealanders And for the last nine years, the regions have been forgotten by the National Party – Why has so little of the money being spent? I mean, why is there so much money left? – Well, look, we all saw how COVID has effected a lot of things – You had 2 years before that COVID came a few months ago – We had 2 years before that and we invested– – How long does it take for Shane to get out of bed, two years? (audience laughing) – Wow, look, I can say a lot of things about the National Party, but I’ll be mature about this Shane Jones is one of the most hardest working members of parliament (audience laughing) And look, I know there are some former parliamentary colleagues here and I hope they will agree with me – [Audience Member] No (audience laughing) – Shane Jones – They said no, they said no – Who was that? – We can’t be be sure that the no from the crowd was or wasn’t a former colleague – Let me just, let me just say, you know, when we invest into infrastructure, when we invest into education, when we invest into schools and communities around this country, especially in our regions and I travel there and I’m like,
wow, there’s actually big difference being made here – Thank you, Jay Adam, is a capital gains tax a good idea? – I think it would have been one of the tools we could have used, but it’s not the only tool – But are you, are you in favour of a capital gains tax? – I’m in favour of any sort of tax system that seeks to redistribute wealth away from unproductive assets– – Are you in favour of a capital gains tax? – I’m in favour of any tax like that And that includes capital gains – So does, I mean, as Young Labour, are you guys pushing, going, we understand you’re being pragmatic and you have to do what you have to do, oh big party, but we want, rattling the cage going “give us a capital gains tax” or no? – Look, no doubt for the next two months between now and the election, Young Labour, will be working across the country to help elect a Labour government But for the three years after that, I can promise you this: we’re gonna be the Labour Party’s worst nightmare Because we’re gonna be banging down their doors saying, “What are we doing about these issues? “How can we do more? “How can we go further?” That’s what Young Labour does and it’s done it for years and we have a strong history of doing so There’s a lot of things in parliament, I don’t think would have been done, if it wasn’t for Young Labour pushing the MPs to do better – OK, thank you (audience applauding) We’re reaching the final furlong of this debate So to finish off, I’d like you to imagine that you’ve now got a magic wand and you have an opportunity to make a change in the manifesto of the party that you support It might be adding something, taking something away, something bold, what will you do with that power to change the manifesto of the National Party? Aryana – I think the one thing I’d really put in there and I think we’ve actually still got it, but just really having it in writing, is just putting in that sustainability is in the lifeblood of society And that just brings in that whole environmental thing, which I’m really passionate about Yeah, it’s in there, but not clearly in there – Jay, what are you gonna go and talk to Shane about? – I would have to say expanding on our education policy or education manifesto, you know, for those who know the New Zealand First education manifesto on that is, if you spend three years studying a certain degree and then use that degree in New Zealand for three years, then your debt’s wiped I think expanding that and just elaborating more on that, I think that would be a good opportunity for New Zealand First – Felix, you can’t have legalise all drugs – I can’t do that one I was gonna do that one – You must have heaps – Probably a more liberal approach to crime then, you know, incarceration, that kind of thing – So the three strikes law part of the Act Party – Yeah – OK all right, cool (audience applauding) – Danielle – I think the easiest way to encompass all the change that I wish to see any government take on is honouring Te Tiriti We still haven’t seen our big parties really dive into that We’ve seen the Greens start to do that, but I mean things like abolishing prisons, abolishing the police, everything, all these kinds of reforms that need to happen Will always come back to honouring Te Tiriti So that’s what I’d like to see in our manifesto (audience applauding) – Adam, what are you going to power into the Labour Party manifesto? It would be making the voting age 16 I think that’s a long overdue thing Young Labour absolutely backs that, and think it’s really important to engage young people early and often – Great answer, thank you very much You’ve all been absolutely brilliant tonight Really appreciate that. This is a wrap Thanks to to NZ On Air Thanks to The Spinoff Thanks to our young wings, long may they flap (audience applauding) (upbeat music)